It's also still one of those topics that get many outsiders who stumble in here on busier days to swivel on their heels and walk away when they see 911 threads. That and Sandy Hook stuff is a normie deterrent, first and foremost, in my view.
9/11 is one of the biggest and most
Important conspiracies of our times - it literally has led to never ending war and recession for the American people - and you don't want to see that discussed here.
You misunderstood my point, though I guess I didn't make it well and I'm not even sure it's correct.
I'm 100% certain that both of my examples are textbook conspiracies, as would be most folks who have been here any longer than a month. I'm rather familiar with the ins and outs as far as we can ascertain. Its not my point that we shouldn't discuss it, but that those two topics seem to be artificially brought to the foreground anytime there's a story on the general frontpage that could lead "normies" to this sub.
To "normies", 911 and Sandy Hook are cause for immediate dismissal of anything else on the board.
Currently, I think it's the general claim about the 12 Russians, and in this case I'm not comfortable pinning the diversion tactics on any one side.
It's my impression that this sub is one of the few places anywhere, where it's even permissible to discuss all versions of this conspiracy, while in most other places it's either the /r/politics version or the /r/The_Donald version.
As long as this sub remains an echo chamber of set minds with no "normie" outsiders to engage in potentially thoughtful debate and discovery, we're no real threat to anyone.
On the other hand, when such divisive topics emerge and when they manage to find a place in which to be openly discussed, debated and examined from many angles and especially when normal folks get a chance to see the wider pictures, that's when this sub becomes filled with a little more potential for positive change.
And so to turn those crucial normal people away (in addition to our propensity for confrontation and crassness), people interested in keeping this sub contained would aim to drive normies away, while staying "on-message" for the sub. Both 911 and SH get upvoted (rightfully) by well-meaning users, but being two of the tougher "red pills" to swallow, the effect, I would argue, is that people who are here for current affairs or a varied viewpoint leave due to "crazy conspiracy theories like 911 and Sandy Hook".
I am sure you are well intentioned, but I believe posts and comments promoting similar divisive language such as
"Normie" and dubious "group declarations" as to what and what-should-not be discussed are more of a deterrent to open discussion and discovery for new participants than posts on the magick of 9/11.
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.
Some of us have Russia Fatigue. How many times do you expect me to repeat "Investigatiors have constantly stated that no Americans (this means Trump) were aware of Russia's actions"?
Good, you walked right into it :) This only pertains to a single indictment, and refers only to the Russians and Americans named within. That leaves literally everything else wide open for knowing cooperation.
Alright, she says specifically that she "has not seen any evidence that would establish collusion". She does not say "there is no evidence to establish collusion". She plainly says that she is relying on the investigation to bring any such evidence to light. Until the investigation concludes, nobody can say if there is evidence that would establish collusion. This isn't a word game; it has vital implications. We must allow the investigation(s) to conclude, unimpeded. Furthermore, this recording is at least 14 months old. Who knows what she or anyone else has seen since.
The explosive political question within the United States remains whether any Americans were involved with the Russian active measures. The latest answer is yes — but the special counsel's office says that in this indictment, none of the Americans knew they were involved.
Wow, you just straight up deliberately spread misinformation. Not even in a somewhat ambiguous manner either.
During the course of the pretrial discovery, Simpson alleges that he began to learn about Browder’s history of “tax avoidance in Russia and we began to deconstruct the way that his hedge fund structured its investments in Russia and, you know, we gradually accumulated through public records, not all from Russia, that he set up dozens of shell companies in Cyprus and other tax havens around the world to funnel money into Russia and to hold Russian securities.”
The pretrial discovery also found that Browder “set up shell companies inside of Russia in order to avoid paying taxes in Russia. In fact, William Browder famously said in 2005 at Davos everybody knows under Putin you have to pay your taxes, which is ironic because at the time he was being investigated for not paying taxes.”
Despite all the threats of lawsuits and physical intimidation which hedge fund executive William Browder brought to bear over the past couple of months to ensure that a remarkable investigative film about the so-called Magnitsky case would not be screened anywhere, it was shown privately in a museum of journalism in Washington, D.C., last week.
The failure of the intimidation may give heart to others. There is talk that the film may be shown publicly in Norway, where its production company is located, but where an attempt several weeks ago to enter it into a local festival for documentaries was rejected by the hosts for fear of lawsuits. Moreover, a Norwegian court has in the past week declined to hear the libel charges which Browder’s attorneys were seeking to bring against the film’s director and producers.
Browder was more successful in intimidating the European Parliament where a screening of the film was cancelled in late April while I was in the audience. But I have now seen the banned documentary privately and “The Magnitsky Act. Behind the Scenes” is truly an amazing film that takes the viewer through the thought processes of well-known independent film maker Andrei Nekrasov as he sorts through the evidence.
At the outset of his project, Nekrasov planned to produce a docu-drama that would be one more public confirmation of the narrative that Browder has sold to the U.S. Congress and to the American and European political elites, that a 36-year-old whistleblower “attorney” (actually an accountant) named Sergei Magnitsky was arrested, tortured and murdered by Russian authorities for exposing a $230 million tax fraud scheme.
We had a huge resurgence of anti-vax content a few days ago. I was trying to figure out what major event or development on the issue had occurred in order to prompt it, but it was just kind of a little random typhoon of activity - from apparently different, unrelated users too. Go figure.
It appeared because it was quite a large incident in the vaccine industry, it showed them having done no safety studies that were required since 1986 and yet they promised they were doing them, is that not reason to ask more questions as to what else they aren't doing if they are neglecting a very important law that saved them from going out of business?
I wasn't aware of that, so that answers my question thanks. There were a diverse range of topics posted though, and none that I saw covering that content.
Most content brought fourth that appears to be "anti-vaxx" or "anti-science" is mostly just people questioning any part of vaccines and they are drowned out by the pro vaxx community, it's near impossible to find certain information on vaccines on google about safety data without getting thousands of other posts that are just blogs and the media saying how perfect vaccines are.
On the note of homeopathy I think that it's definitely just gotten a bad name since it by nature goes against the pharma company and vaccines. There seems to be quite a bit of data to prove it's effectiveness, the only problem is that it's not looked at as real "science" so no actual research goes into it because if people found natural, cheap cures to cancer the chemotherapy industry would lose all their income. Most homepathy is just looking into things like vitamins, minerals, and herbs which we know have beneficial effects anyways, we use aloe vera in most counter top medicines.
Homeopathy nowadays is so deeply associated with those weird whacko remedies, most people use the term Naturopathy (which is actually the term for all "natural" medicine, and includes homeopathy) or herbalism.
In addition to what others have said, the MMR vaccine was banned in Samoa after two infants died within minutes of being vaccinated not two hours apart, and the president of Samoa said his grandchild lost his capacity for speech after a similar incident.
I think it's Browder. Getting heavily downvoted at any mention. Going to keep pulling at that thread for a while.
Here's an interesting thought - if I kept making posts about it because they kept instantly getting downvoted, I'd probably get banned for spamming or whatever. But they can hangout and continuously mass downvote away uncomfortable topics with impunity. How would we go about fixing that?
When you get down do it, it's like there's a 1% here too. And if they don't want something discussed, they don't really need the mods to kill it, they can just use their bought numbers and downvote it away from everyone's eyes themselves. It'd be like a crook politician going around buying up every newspaper that says something negative about them.
Do we have any way of protecting against that? Could we have a feature that will temporarily hold it at 1 vote for a few hours, so it at least gets a chance for some visibility by human eyes or people not trying to prevent the conversation? They could study the downvote patterns and if there were a shitload of negative ones, they cut those negative votes in half if the voting after the first X minutes was actually mostly positive. IMO that's the biggest hole in reddit. The "whoever planted a flag on this sub name first gets to control the discussion" is a really bad one, but that can be fixed by more accountability from reddit/admins. This "stalking the /new feeds of various subs with too much visibility for problematic posts" needs something more nuanced.
Couldn't we outright negate the votes from a bot/shill account if we noticed they were always immediately downvoting posts with "Clinton" in them within 30 seconds of being posted? If doing that too many times resulted in a behind the scenes switch turning off "ShillBotMan158703"'s votes on future posts with those parameters, that would gut a lot of shilling efforts.
During the course of the pretrial discovery, Simpson alleges that he began to learn about Browder’s history of “tax avoidance in Russia and we began to deconstruct the way that his hedge fund structured its investments in Russia and, you know, we gradually accumulated through public records, not all from Russia, that he set up dozens of shell companies in Cyprus and other tax havens around the world to funnel money into Russia and to hold Russian securities.”
The pretrial discovery also found that Browder “set up shell companies inside of Russia in order to avoid paying taxes in Russia. In fact, William Browder famously said in 2005 at Davos everybody knows under Putin you have to pay your taxes, which is ironic because at the time he was being investigated for not paying taxes.”
Basically that Putin maybe wasn't completely full of shit about that part. And if that's the case, maybe some of the Magnitsky story is fake too? It ties in to the biggest stories going on right now.
9/11 posts should always be welcome on this subreddit. The perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks are still free men and 9/11 remains an unsolved crime. We therefore need to keep this story alive until it is properly investigated and the perpetrators are brought to justice.
If it weren’t for 9/11 I honestly would not give a fuck about any of this shit. They thought up some bullshit there. Mental trauma on the public that will never be let down by the witnesses.
That's fine though. Forget all these other minor conspiracies...raising awareness about 9/11 is the ticket to salvation for us all. If everyday Americans knew at least half the truth about 9/11, this country would be a much better place
9/11 was an inside job though. How can we ever move forward with anything else unless we can shine the beacon of truth on this? Do you not see how fresh it is in so many minds? See the traitors on 9/11 they will glow in the darkness of all other subversions here.
Most content brought fourth that appears to be "anti-vaxx" or "anti-science" is mostly just people questioning any part of vaccines and they are drowned out by the pro vaxx community, it's near impossible to find certain information on vaccines on google about safety data without getting thousands of other posts that are just blogs and the media saying how perfect vaccines are.
Good, you walked right into it :) This only pertains to a single indictment, and refers only to the Russians and Americans named within. That leaves literally everything else wide open for knowing cooperation.
The explosive political question within the United States remains whether any Americans were involved with the Russian active measures. The latest answer is yes — but the special counsel's office says that in this indictment, none of the Americans knew they were involved.
Wow, you just straight up deliberately spread misinformation. Not even in a somewhat ambiguous manner either.
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.
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1 theawesomethatis 2018-07-19
Or other really tired old crap.
Yep, it's noise to flood the place.
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2018-07-19
It's also still one of those topics that get many outsiders who stumble in here on busier days to swivel on their heels and walk away when they see 911 threads. That and Sandy Hook stuff is a normie deterrent, first and foremost, in my view.
1 LurkPro3000 2018-07-19
Wtf are you doing here.
9/11 is one of the biggest and most Important conspiracies of our times - it literally has led to never ending war and recession for the American people - and you don't want to see that discussed here.
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2018-07-19
You misunderstood my point, though I guess I didn't make it well and I'm not even sure it's correct.
I'm 100% certain that both of my examples are textbook conspiracies, as would be most folks who have been here any longer than a month. I'm rather familiar with the ins and outs as far as we can ascertain. Its not my point that we shouldn't discuss it, but that those two topics seem to be artificially brought to the foreground anytime there's a story on the general frontpage that could lead "normies" to this sub.
To "normies", 911 and Sandy Hook are cause for immediate dismissal of anything else on the board.
1 LurkPro3000 2018-07-19
I guess I should ask what you think is bringing "normies" to this sub? Or what conspiracies are being covered up by this supposed 9/11 influx
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2018-07-19
Currently, I think it's the general claim about the 12 Russians, and in this case I'm not comfortable pinning the diversion tactics on any one side.
It's my impression that this sub is one of the few places anywhere, where it's even permissible to discuss all versions of this conspiracy, while in most other places it's either the /r/politics version or the /r/The_Donald version.
As long as this sub remains an echo chamber of set minds with no "normie" outsiders to engage in potentially thoughtful debate and discovery, we're no real threat to anyone.
On the other hand, when such divisive topics emerge and when they manage to find a place in which to be openly discussed, debated and examined from many angles and especially when normal folks get a chance to see the wider pictures, that's when this sub becomes filled with a little more potential for positive change.
And so to turn those crucial normal people away (in addition to our propensity for confrontation and crassness), people interested in keeping this sub contained would aim to drive normies away, while staying "on-message" for the sub. Both 911 and SH get upvoted (rightfully) by well-meaning users, but being two of the tougher "red pills" to swallow, the effect, I would argue, is that people who are here for current affairs or a varied viewpoint leave due to "crazy conspiracy theories like 911 and Sandy Hook".
1 LurkPro3000 2018-07-19
I am sure you are well intentioned, but I believe posts and comments promoting similar divisive language such as "Normie" and dubious "group declarations" as to what and what-should-not be discussed are more of a deterrent to open discussion and discovery for new participants than posts on the magick of 9/11.
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2018-07-19
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2018-07-19
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2018-07-19
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.
1 MamaBare 2018-07-19
Some of us have Russia Fatigue. How many times do you expect me to repeat "Investigatiors have constantly stated that no Americans (this means Trump) were aware of Russia's actions"?
1 procgen 2018-07-19
They haven't said that, though.
1 MamaBare 2018-07-19
Here's that right wing tabloid NPR as my source
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/14/628905825/the-russia-investigations-6-key-insights-from-the-cyberspy-indictment
Here's the appropriate quote from the article because you're not going to click the link
And to save you the trouble, I'll silently downvote myself.
1 TUMS_FESTIVAL 2018-07-19
"Not involved" and "not aware" are two very different things.
1 procgen 2018-07-19
Good, you walked right into it :) This only pertains to a single indictment, and refers only to the Russians and Americans named within. That leaves literally everything else wide open for knowing cooperation.
1 MamaBare 2018-07-19
Here's Dianne Fein saying that there's no evidence of collusion.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qC1Wqw-0EYM
True, it's that garbage fire CNN, but it's the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee saying it in an unedited segment.
1 procgen 2018-07-19
She doesn't say anything of the sort in that video.
1 procgen 2018-07-19
Are you going to try again, or have you given up?
1 MamaBare 2018-07-19
No I give up. Your wilful ignorance was too strong for me. Congratulations!
1 procgen 2018-07-19
Did you watch the clip you linked to?
1 MamaBare 2018-07-19
It's at the end. Blitzer asks if there's any evidence of collusion in the Trump investigation and feinstein says no.
1 procgen 2018-07-19
This video genuinely doesn't end that way. Perhaps you're hallucinating?
1 MamaBare 2018-07-19
Sorry I must have linked the wrong one!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p5V_PSJoULM
1 procgen 2018-07-19
Alright, she says specifically that she "has not seen any evidence that would establish collusion". She does not say "there is no evidence to establish collusion". She plainly says that she is relying on the investigation to bring any such evidence to light. Until the investigation concludes, nobody can say if there is evidence that would establish collusion. This isn't a word game; it has vital implications. We must allow the investigation(s) to conclude, unimpeded. Furthermore, this recording is at least 14 months old. Who knows what she or anyone else has seen since.
1 Entropick 2018-07-19
Your egoistic pleasure at comeuppance is nauseating. Get a hobby.
1 procgen 2018-07-19
I have many hobbies! Right now I'm interested in robotics, and am using reinforcement learning algorithms to control a 6DOF arm. What about you?
1 TUMS_FESTIVAL 2018-07-19
Wow, you just straight up deliberately spread misinformation. Not even in a somewhat ambiguous manner either.
1 d3rr 2018-07-19
Good, 9/11 unites us all against the motherfucking Feds. It's not old news to everyone.
1 DeySeeMeLurkin 2018-07-19
My main point was this sub is active in grabbing the attention of the majority of population that do want to question the norms.
1 sonicb00m42 2018-07-19
Fa show!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq6p4wX88Z0
1 of_mendez 2018-07-19
What is the discussion that is good currently? the Rothschild door know killings?
1 kosmicclouds 2018-07-19
those are honestly really interesting
1 of_mendez 2018-07-19
very welcome
1 FlipBarry 2018-07-19
Oo nice. Interesting
1 of_mendez 2018-07-19
welcome, good day.
1 BlueLaceSensor128 2018-07-19
Mentioning Browder seems to bring on massive downvotes, so I'm going to assume for the moment that this is the meaty story they don't want covered.
1 of_mendez 2018-07-19
If its on the cnn, Washington post, time and NYT, then you know its the mainstream taking point, not really a hidden tabu topic
1 BlueLaceSensor128 2018-07-19
Oh I noticed. They were basically talking about giving him the noble prize. I'm talking about real facts behind his tax evasion. Glenn Simpson (the Fusion GPS guy) called him out for it in his congressional testimony. https://www.thenation.com/article/why-is-the-media-ignoring-crucial-parts-of-the-simpson-testimony/
1 of_mendez 2018-07-19
I understand, I'll be looking into that guy to see if there is juice to this story, thanks
1 ShinigamiSirius 2018-07-19
Oh, they definitely are. I always seem to get massive downvotes for posting this, but here goes.
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/06/21/destroying-the-magnitsky-myth/
1 Personplacething333 2018-07-19
The what?
1 DontTreadOnMe16 2018-07-19
Say what now? Door knob killings? Do tell!
1 Horrid_Proboscis 2018-07-19
We had a huge resurgence of anti-vax content a few days ago. I was trying to figure out what major event or development on the issue had occurred in order to prompt it, but it was just kind of a little random typhoon of activity - from apparently different, unrelated users too. Go figure.
1 Tsuikaya 2018-07-19
It appeared because it was quite a large incident in the vaccine industry, it showed them having done no safety studies that were required since 1986 and yet they promised they were doing them, is that not reason to ask more questions as to what else they aren't doing if they are neglecting a very important law that saved them from going out of business?
1 Horrid_Proboscis 2018-07-19
I wasn't aware of that, so that answers my question thanks. There were a diverse range of topics posted though, and none that I saw covering that content.
1 Tsuikaya 2018-07-19
Most content brought fourth that appears to be "anti-vaxx" or "anti-science" is mostly just people questioning any part of vaccines and they are drowned out by the pro vaxx community, it's near impossible to find certain information on vaccines on google about safety data without getting thousands of other posts that are just blogs and the media saying how perfect vaccines are.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-07-19
thats the vaccine industries paid marketing.
1 Tsuikaya 2018-07-19
On the note of homeopathy I think that it's definitely just gotten a bad name since it by nature goes against the pharma company and vaccines. There seems to be quite a bit of data to prove it's effectiveness, the only problem is that it's not looked at as real "science" so no actual research goes into it because if people found natural, cheap cures to cancer the chemotherapy industry would lose all their income. Most homepathy is just looking into things like vitamins, minerals, and herbs which we know have beneficial effects anyways, we use aloe vera in most counter top medicines.
1 CaedisLampwright 2018-07-19
Homeopathy nowadays is so deeply associated with those weird whacko remedies, most people use the term Naturopathy (which is actually the term for all "natural" medicine, and includes homeopathy) or herbalism.
1 sirio2012 2018-07-19
Got my weed stash homme.Big
1 CaedisLampwright 2018-07-19
If you want to see the documents in question:
HHS's confession to not having any reports nor making any since 1987 - http://icandecide.org/government/ICAN-HHS-Stipulated-Order-July-2018.pdf
ICAN's (Informed Consent Action Network) Original Request for the reports (A really good read in my opinion - http://icandecide.org/white-papers/ICAN-HHS-Notice.pdf
The absolutely beautiful 4chan thread - http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/178674729
The 2nd page of the 4chan thread - http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/178703227#p178703227
1 TTGG 2018-07-19
It wasn't an isolated case, there was a series of anti-vax posts on r/C_S_T as well.
1 William_Harzia 2018-07-19
In addition to what others have said, the MMR vaccine was banned in Samoa after two infants died within minutes of being vaccinated not two hours apart, and the president of Samoa said his grandchild lost his capacity for speech after a similar incident.
1 sixrwsbot 2018-07-19
what's wrong with 9/11 conversation? isn't this a conspiracy subreddit?
1 Red-Vagabond 2018-07-19
It is bizarre to see a majority opinion on a conspiracy forum regard 9/11 conversation as nothing more than "forum sliding".
1 brofistnate 2018-07-19
Not getting sucked into political theater is a problem it seems. Mmmk
1 perfect_pickles 2018-07-19
this is not the place to debate planes vs holograms vs TV CGI,
who and what the money people were and are, how they are connected to others, yes.
1 tulnukas_quinze 2018-07-19
When you start making accurate future predictions based on your theory.
1 BlueLaceSensor128 2018-07-19
I think it's Browder. Getting heavily downvoted at any mention. Going to keep pulling at that thread for a while.
Here's an interesting thought - if I kept making posts about it because they kept instantly getting downvoted, I'd probably get banned for spamming or whatever. But they can hangout and continuously mass downvote away uncomfortable topics with impunity. How would we go about fixing that?
When you get down do it, it's like there's a 1% here too. And if they don't want something discussed, they don't really need the mods to kill it, they can just use their bought numbers and downvote it away from everyone's eyes themselves. It'd be like a crook politician going around buying up every newspaper that says something negative about them.
Do we have any way of protecting against that? Could we have a feature that will temporarily hold it at 1 vote for a few hours, so it at least gets a chance for some visibility by human eyes or people not trying to prevent the conversation? They could study the downvote patterns and if there were a shitload of negative ones, they cut those negative votes in half if the voting after the first X minutes was actually mostly positive. IMO that's the biggest hole in reddit. The "whoever planted a flag on this sub name first gets to control the discussion" is a really bad one, but that can be fixed by more accountability from reddit/admins. This "stalking the /new feeds of various subs with too much visibility for problematic posts" needs something more nuanced.
Couldn't we outright negate the votes from a bot/shill account if we noticed they were always immediately downvoting posts with "Clinton" in them within 30 seconds of being posted? If doing that too many times resulted in a behind the scenes switch turning off "ShillBotMan158703"'s votes on future posts with those parameters, that would gut a lot of shilling efforts.
1 FunHegemon 2018-07-19
Why do you think it's Browder? I don't even see why anything having to do with him is relevant at all to other happenings.
1 BlueLaceSensor128 2018-07-19
https://www.thenation.com/article/why-is-the-media-ignoring-crucial-parts-of-the-simpson-testimony/
Basically that Putin maybe wasn't completely full of shit about that part. And if that's the case, maybe some of the Magnitsky story is fake too? It ties in to the biggest stories going on right now.
1 joe_jaywalker 2018-07-19
Has anyone else even bothered to check OP’s post history and realize this is his first post in this subreddit? End of discussion.
1 Nogrim6 2018-07-19
how many flat earth posts?
1 perfect_pickles 2018-07-19
when https://www.reddit.com/r/911truth/ is there for this purpose.
1 TaurusII 2018-07-19
9/11 posts should always be welcome on this subreddit. The perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks are still free men and 9/11 remains an unsolved crime. We therefore need to keep this story alive until it is properly investigated and the perpetrators are brought to justice.
1 EitherOrMindset 2018-07-19
Thank you & thanks for your 9/11 posts over the years. Your 9/11 material is always of a very high standard, full of rarities.
1 YoshiTakimatsui 2018-07-19
You honestly don't expect to see 911 post In conspiracy sub what the fuck is wrong with you?
1 CaucasianEagle 2018-07-19
If it weren’t for 9/11 I honestly would not give a fuck about any of this shit. They thought up some bullshit there. Mental trauma on the public that will never be let down by the witnesses.
1 tetragrammaton33 2018-07-19
That's fine though. Forget all these other minor conspiracies...raising awareness about 9/11 is the ticket to salvation for us all. If everyday Americans knew at least half the truth about 9/11, this country would be a much better place
1 sonicb00m42 2018-07-19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab_KVbMYR3s&list=RDAb_KVbMYR3s&start_radio=1
1 tedandterry 2018-07-19
9/11 was an inside job though. How can we ever move forward with anything else unless we can shine the beacon of truth on this? Do you not see how fresh it is in so many minds? See the traitors on 9/11 they will glow in the darkness of all other subversions here.
1 Basil_love 2018-07-19
META CONSPIRACY
1 Tsuikaya 2018-07-19
Most content brought fourth that appears to be "anti-vaxx" or "anti-science" is mostly just people questioning any part of vaccines and they are drowned out by the pro vaxx community, it's near impossible to find certain information on vaccines on google about safety data without getting thousands of other posts that are just blogs and the media saying how perfect vaccines are.
1 TUMS_FESTIVAL 2018-07-19
"Not involved" and "not aware" are two very different things.
1 of_mendez 2018-07-19
I understand, I'll be looking into that guy to see if there is juice to this story, thanks
1 procgen 2018-07-19
Good, you walked right into it :) This only pertains to a single indictment, and refers only to the Russians and Americans named within. That leaves literally everything else wide open for knowing cooperation.
1 TUMS_FESTIVAL 2018-07-19
Wow, you just straight up deliberately spread misinformation. Not even in a somewhat ambiguous manner either.
1 CaedisLampwright 2018-07-19
If you want to see the documents in question:
HHS's confession to not having any reports nor making any since 1987 - http://icandecide.org/government/ICAN-HHS-Stipulated-Order-July-2018.pdf
ICAN's (Informed Consent Action Network) Original Request for the reports (A really good read in my opinion - http://icandecide.org/white-papers/ICAN-HHS-Notice.pdf
The absolutely beautiful 4chan thread - http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/178674729
The 2nd page of the 4chan thread - http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/178703227#p178703227
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2018-07-19
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2018-07-19
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2018-07-19
Fair enough, though I meant no division by my language. Had I wanted to convey disdain, I would have used the more common moniker of sheeple or something silly like that. Admittedly, normie isn't much better of an expression.