Ya, comicartistpro secrets (Ethan Van Sciver) on YouTube did a couple of great vids on this. It's disturbing shit man... I tell people there's something to the whole pizzagate thing (pedogate, etc). They just need to look into it more than what MSM reported on. Most are like "You believe that crap?!" Some actually see where I'm coming from and look into it. Seeing stuff like this just solidifies my gut feeling even more.

I don't think they were all pedo tweets. I think he just tried to clean house and delete a bunch of stuff from a certain timeline.

Lol “certain timeline”

Sure buddy. Sounds like a bullshit excuse to me.

he deleted every tweet from at least 2008 to 2012, was every single one of his tweets a pedo tweet in those 4 years?

pizzagaters want you to think everyone who makes offensive jokes fucks kids.

I don't get why they haven't gone after south park, thats a gold mine of fake pedo outrage

im sure they will.

when you havent actually done anything worth while in your life, this type of witch hunt can give you a real sense of accomplishment...

Great generalization there. You're an outstanding character.

That's exactly my point. That seems a bit exaggerated if you ask me. He must've tweeted family and such in that time frame and I'm sure he wasn't talking to his mom or whomever about that kinda crap. He just deleted everything in that time frame because he knew that was where most of the questionable crap lied.

What are you going on about? I ain't defending shit. I'm just saying that he deleted everything from a certain timeline so that he doesn't miss anything. All 10,000 of those tweets being pedo-related is ludicrous. Maybe they all were, I don't know but I just don't see how someone gets to his stature with THAT many pedo tweets.

A certain timeline where he joked about having sex with children?

They most likely weren’t all pedo tweets, I mean 10,000 is a lot of tweets, but he definitely had a lot of over line tweets

fuck off pedo defender

Removed. Rule 10.

No, he deleted all his tweets because deleting only the pedo tweets would call more attention to the issue.

What do you mean by 10,000 pedi tweets? He tweeted about being a pedophile 10,000 times?

James?

yea

He deleted 10,000. They may not have all been about that.

Relax, it's currently upvoted & climbing

Before 2016, this thread would’ve been an easy 5000 upvotes. Easy.

Now, the Jews are afraid to be exposed

This comment took quite the turn.

Dude, he deleted 10,000 tweets. Not 10,000 pedo tweets. Christ, the lack of critical thinking and reading comprehension in this sub really explains why there is so much misinformation and drooling idiots eating this shit up.

The amount of pedo-defending on this thread is what is truly disturbing.

He isn't a pedo. He made some crass and tasteless jokes/remarks. Get over it.

How are you so sure?

You could literally ask this question about everyone and everything. You have no proof. You only have off-key jokes/remarks and bullshit allegations from internet trolls/hack media outlets.

How are you so sure that he is a pedophile? Where is your proof? And dont tell me he is a pedophile because of a joke because then every single comedian would either be a pedophile, racist, or sexist. We have all made dark and tasteless jokes before about inappropriate things. That doesnt make us the thing we are joking about.

Get real.

There's more proof for than against at this point.

Please, where is your proof that he is a pedophile? You literally have none.

Was there child pornography found on a personal device? No.

Is he being accused of having sex with a minor and is there proof of such act? No and no.

Is their any real evidence to support that he is a pedophile and not just a crude jokester? No.

But please, give me your "evidence". I would love to show you exactly why it would never hold up in a criminal proceeding and why these allegations will never hold any weight. The man made some crass jokes, we all have, it doesnt mean he is a pedophile.

lol child rape so funny .

It can be funny. Anything can be funny. Louis C.K.'s SNL monologue about pedophiles is hilarious.

Stop being such a fragile and oversensitive human being. Learn to joke about the realities of life and our world. Trust me, they are easier to cope with when you can have a laugh.

Laugh all you want you sicko

You could literally ask this question about everyone and everything.

Well, except for the 99.99% that don't make "jokes" about fucking kids.

No you idiot. Again, reading comprehension. The question "how are you so sure?" is so incredibly basic and vague that you could ask this question about literally any situation.

I, for one, downvoted this. I went through and read his tweets and they were pretty clearly just edgy-humor cringe from a long time ago. This is just a stupid misdirected mob going after someone they disagree with politically.

Disagree with what politically? Child pedophilia?

Disagree with his anti-trump views. Also pedophilia implies children and I think his "jokes" aren't funny they are just meant to shock which is the lowest for lm of humor

I downvoted you because you're quoting a rape apologist to slander an actor as a pedophile.

Pedo jokes are bad, but Mike Cernovich is so much worse.

Why is he so open about this? You’d think these fuckers would feel some shame. This guy needs to get investigated.

Hubris, sickness, hanging out with other pedos.

Sort of? He grew up surrounded by sexual assault and pedos. He wasn't abused himself, but he's spoken out before about the messed-up atmosphere of his school days, where sexual assault from Priests on his classmates was normalized and his attempts to report them were shot down.

I'm not defending him by any means, he's an adult and should have sorted his issues out a long time ago. But in the same way that many sex offenders were sexually abused as children, it makes sense that he would take these things lightly when that's the environment he grew up in.

Why are so many people with this "affliction" littered throughout the entertainment industry?

In America, someone is sexually assaulted every 98 seconds. The entertainment industry is not an outlier, the whole country is like this. These are just the people with the biggest followings.

Yes, the film industry has its own issues with Weinsteins and such treating sexual assault like it's acceptable and commonplace, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking the rest of the country is any better. Sex offenders can be CEOs, managers, teachers, religious leaders, camp counselors, babysitters, family members. Usually, the only link is a percieved position of power or authority over the victim.

country

Human race Animal kingdom. We aren't so different, after all. I'd imagine it's been like this throughout the entire evolution process.

Is there any data or research about this? I really know very little about this subject. Is this truly something that is rampant in America or are the rates of occurrence consistent worldwide?

nah man only Americans molest kids you fuckin retard

Can we compare ratios? Like how many people who have been abised make it to the top of their industry in entertainment versus in other fields?

I would absolutely love to see data like this, but I think it's impossible simply because it would depend on every act of abuse being reported. Though if anyone's aware of data that attempts to show a ratio, please share!

Those statistics are always tricky because they largely rely on self reporting. I have no doubt the entertainment industry probably systematically enables sexual assault and rape the way the military does, but you'd have to have someone who's actually collected the data and analyzed it and submitted it through a peer reviewed process or whatnot before we can assert it with any confidence.

It would be pointless because we havemt investigated all industries evenly and i would never expect pedos to be evenly distributed

Or could it be that certain industries are geared towards abusees, abusees turned abusers and propagate the lifestyle?

I'm just spitballing here...

I'd think politics could be disproportionally represented considering it takes a degree of caring about power and authority to even get into it.

That is an obvious attempt to play down the prevalence of it in the entertainment industry.

Uh, no? It's an attempt to remind everyone that the problem exists everywhere and we shouldn't lie to ourselves and think otherwise.

You don’t see the problem though do you.

The problem is these cunts think they can get away with this, they have been and are for so long even though it’s slowly getting exposed but it’s much bigger than you and I can imagine.

These people hang out with other pedos. These people probably joke about it, they are fucking sick and deserve justice. It makes me sick that normal pedos get killed in prison and these guys get away with it.

Do you still believe pi$$agate is fake?

Check james gunn’s twitter it’s full of pizza and pedophilia symbolism

You don't see the problem with being distracted by a MSM ploy like pizzagate, do you?

Pedophiles are everywhere. less than 100 years ago, it was the norm(as long as you married the child, you have to slip past the 100 year mark in order to find unmarried pedophilia acceptance), we are just moving beyond that as a species.

If you want to eliminate it, if you think it is a bad thing, don't focus on the shiny light that blinds you to what happens in the dark. Focus on the whole problem, work to fix the whole problem, otherwise you just are doing this to make yourself feel better and you don't really give a shit if kids are molested or worse.

LOL msm denies and ignores pizzagate, not to mention the ridicule.

We live in a society that is rightfully against raping children, yes when a person doesn’t or can’t consent to sex it’s called rape.

Look I get YOU are panicking, I get that YOUR world is crumbling apart, I get that you are now trying to normalize pedophilia as a last ditch effort. minor attracted person? That shit is fucking stupid and you should be killed.

I told you what the problem is, so go back and read it. And FUCK off with that you don’t care about the kids BULLSHIT.

You're revising history to fit your narrow view so that you feel better about ignoring tens of millions of victims for a couple thousand.

If you don't care about kids, don't care about kids. If you want to have your power fantasy, try a different conspiracy or field.

If you think you actually care about kids, look at the entire picture, not a single subpixel.

Look I know you are shilling hard and stopped making sense in the first sentence you posted. But people will NEVER accept pedophiles.

As I said before, if a normal simpleton like yourself molests a child, you’re going to jail and you’re gonna get beaten either to death or enough to make you wish you were dead for fucking that child.

These people think they can get away with it, they think they are above the law because all their “buddies” are doing it.

See the problem now? Or should I make you a drawing? Shill somewhere else

You're losing an argument, so you're calling me a shill? You need to go ahead and head back to whatever conservative subreddit you came from.

There is a sexual assault against a child every 98 seconds. There is not an arrest every 98 seconds. This immediately and wholly disproves the theory you're putting forth in your second paragraph.

All predators think they can get away with it, and you know what? They're fucking right they can.

Because people like you go after one or two people.

There are tens of millions of victims out there that you are ignoring for your witch hunt.

I'm sorry you think you're right on this, the most devoted fanatics usually think they are until they realize they are as evil as those they hunted, not for their actions, but their inaction against real threats.

Dammit man, skippity hop back into /r/conspiracy where your overly cinematic, emotionally fueled analysis is the thing, and let the adults talk.

I am here you retarded shill lol

Oh fuck, now I am an honest man; by no means a shill, but you got me there. That's hilarious. :D

Personal attacks on a stranger's intelligence - ✅

Use of the word "shill" - ✅

Overgeneralization of a complex problem that affects millions - ✅

General false sense of mental superiority + condescending language - ✅

hey guys I think this person might not actually care about understanding or learning and just wants to feel right

But only the kids in the entertainment industry, right? Only the kids getting abused by the rich and powerful are worth mentioning?

Do you understand why you’re getting downvoted yet, you ignorant shit?

Removed. Advocating violence. Only warning.

Here are a few articles you might want to read:

Due to legal loopholes, more than 200,000 children married in the United States over the last 15 years, mostly girls married to adult men. Girls as young as 10 were among the minors who wedded under legal loopholes.

The youngest wedded were three 10-year-old girls in Tennessee who married men aged 24, 25 and 31 in 2001. The youngest groom was an 11-year-old who married a 27-year-old woman in the same state in 2006.

A 14-year-old girl married a 74-year-old man in Alabama, while a 17-year-old wed a 65-year-old groom in Idaho.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/200000-children-married-us-15-years-child-marriage-child-brides-new-jersey-chris-christie-a7830266.html

A bit older article from early 2017:

We learned that in 38 [US] states, between 2000 and 2010, more than 167,000 children — almost all of them girls, some as young 12 — were married during that period, mostly to men 18 or older.

Many of the children married [in the United States] between 2000 and 2010 were wed to adults significantly older than they were, the data shows. At least 31 percent were married to a spouse age 21 or older. (The actual number is probably higher, as some states did not provide spousal ages.)

Many of the states that provided data included categories such as “14 and younger,” without specifying exactly how much younger some brides and grooms were. Thus, the 12-year-olds we found in Alaska, Louisiana and South Carolina’s data might not have been the youngest children wed in America between 2000 and 2010.

Most states did not provide identifying information about the children, but Unchained has seen child marriage in nearly every American culture and religion, including Christian, Jewish, Muslim and secular communities.

Only nine states still allow pregnancy exceptions to the marriage age, as such exceptions have been used to cover up rape and to force girls to marry their rapists. Consider Sherry Johnson of Florida, who said she was raped repeatedly as a child and was pregnant by 11, at which time her mother forced her to marry her 20-year-old rapist under Florida’s pregnancy exception in the 1970s.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/02/10/why-does-the-united-states-still-let-12-year-old-girls-get-married/

The really fucked up thing about this is that there have been bills in Congress to stop child marriage at the federal level. There have been state bills, too. They usually get shot down by politicians citing vaguely religious standards concerning teen pregnancy or 'tradition.'

Samantha Bee did a whole segment on child brides last June. She aired a bit of a reporter (I think) pointing out that teen marriage laws were often used to dodge statutory rape laws. Pretty bizarre.

it's full of pizza

I know we're on r/conspiracy, but this still blew me away when I realized you were serious. It reads like a parody comment.

There are so many REAL problems in the world, why would you spend time making a fuss over pretend ones?!? We all need to try to improve the world we live in, not convince each other that imaginary abominations like Pizzagate (and basements of one-story buildings) exist. That stuff ruins innocent lives while ignoring the ACTUAL, REAL-WORLD problems.

It's beyond self-absorbed to be a proponent of this garbage. Real evil people are doing real evil things in the world, and you put your energy into promoting slander and harming those who have done nothing wrong?

You should be interested in uncovering the truth, not replacing or inventing it.

Thank you for your efforts. We need more folks like you round these parts.

Why to conform to group think? You can fuck right off back to hell.

lmfao awww Mr. Magic Ape is sad people found out about his child fucking tendencies when they realized the front of his shop had a pedo symbol :'( aww too bad

This is shockingly callous

An American business owner was framed for imaginary crimes and has been harassed ever since

Well hopefully you wern't actually as sick as Mr. Majestic Ape lol

.10 deposited.

You can do this a million times and you will always stink of white mold.

Thank God we've got Weinsteins best friend Meryl streep here to remind us plebes that we are actually the problem.

Go fuck yourself for your .10..hope it tasted as good as your empty bank account.

Geez, the pretentiousness of this sub is even worse than I thought it would be, it's like no one can comment without making accusations or baseless assumptions about the other Redditors

Forget showing evidence or discussing like adults, right?

Yeah, all the normies from major subs are invading the place - and your average person is a tribalistic mouth breather that will use ridicule and baseless name calling to get you to conform.

Nothing to see here pedowood is totally normal guys

funny how soros shills are flooding this topic trying to claim it's not a ((hollywood epidemic)) but totally the norm everywhere.

"Everybody else is doing it too not just us!"

And one of the biggest most blatant cases with irrefutable evidence sits at 850 upvotes on one of the most discussed topics here for years

Yet when Russia is brought up without any evidence it ends up with 5k

What is the blatant case? Can you point me to that thread? I can't find it on the front page.

Can this be more apologetic? And please, de-delude yourself before suggesting others are deluded.

Hollywood is a planned cesspool full of ritual abuse required for inclusion into the club. Not some random CEO of some random company pushing the power differential. That everyday crap is #MeToo.

What a load of shit. You provided no evidence what-so-ever.

Probably because its very easy to control someone if you know what their weakness is, and can threaten to expose them if they dont go along with the plan. Talented people with questionable morals are everywhere, but seem concentrated in the entertainment industry.

Predators will seek out easy access to their prey, putting themselves into positions where they can pick and choose their prey based on whatever their particular interest happens to be.

Hollywood's Satanic cabal, which is perfectly fine with and encourages this, so long as they're not caught in the public eye

It puts you in positions of power over kids.

The entertainment industry might be skewed because perpetrators are known faces, a lot of abuse victims might not see their abuser again in most situations, but if they're always on TV or in the papers you can never really move on. I always remember a woman I know telling me about how years after she had been raped she saw her rapist's face in the paper after he won a local election and how it brought back all the shame she had tried to get over.

I’m not certain victims-turned-predators take the crime lightly, even years later. And if the pedo-abuse is part of a ritual practice, esp in group arrangements, then the whole affair should be regarded as nefarious / evil / depraved / criminal / prosecutable.

I mean we are in r/conspiracy here aren't we? Does anybody else think someone purposefully pulled up old shit to discredit him? Not to defend him against remarks of which some are a little, 'off the cuff', to put it lightly.

This was some time ago. Someone who would look that far back into his tweets are either a super fanboy who would never bring it attention of Disney, or someone trying to use it against him.

If you read any articles about it, these were dug up by Trump supporters trying to discredit him, as he's been very vocal about criticizing Trump

Yeah, the problem is that 'Trump supporters' has gained a very broad definition as a group.

My wife left me

You’d think Post-Weinstein would’ve really made Hollywood more on guard. Guess not.

The tweets are from 2010 and earlier, at least from what I have seen.

Just recently these people realized they aren’t invincible

Still tho right? As soon as Weinstein hit the ceiling people should’ve deleted everything to avoid being noticed. But nope, no they didn’t. Fucking Kevin Spacey got fucked, and he doesn’t even post anything pedo-y online and is super polite all the time.

True I can’t believe the first google search when I searched James Gunn was a new article saying he apologizes for joking about pedophilia towards boys.. I can’t believe they’re trying to push these as jokes when there is damning evidence.. shit without James Gunn I wouldn’t even know what NAMBLA is!

Lmao what a coincidence, just found out about NAMBLA like an hour ago.

Watch some southpark

Is this an inside joke?

No, they did an episode tearing it apart a while back.

Ohh. Yeah South Park’s not available in my country.

Vpn

No, I mean all the sites that allow me to watch SP needs money to be available. I like free shit, man. Unless you can give me a virus free no charge link of SP i think Imma pass.

Allsp.com

Oh shit. Thanks man.

No problem. It has served me well for years.

Torrent is.

Yeah I’m aware of that. Couldn’t be bothered tbh.

I first learned about it from South Park and for a while afterwards I honestly thought it was just something they made up. Apparently it’s protected under the first amendment, just as long as they don’t actually act on it.

Since NAMBLA is a new thing for you, check out Allen Ginsburg and NAMBLA. (I see below you're not American... Ginsberg was a famous poet in the 60s, a cultural icon of sorts).

Shit man, you’re making me going down a whole nother rabbit hole here. Just finished the ‘creepies thing on reddit’ thread in r/askreddit in 2AM here.

It'll be there tomorrow. Also a very short hole.

20 years ago for me, thank to the Onion.

I didn't read any of the tweets, but have you seen any of the dude's movies? He started out working for Troma, so would it surprise you if she made jokes like that?

Bruh, without a doubt, he deserves to lose his career for joking about such a sensitive subject as pedophilia.

Especially when the public is aware that pedophilia is rampant in a Hollywood and it is going unchecked.

Anyone who thinks all his tweets were just “jokes” is being delusional or paid imo

Nothing is off limits to joke about. Look at my username and you'll see that I strongly believe that

If nothing is off limits to joke about, then why did Roseanne lose her job?

Her boss sucks

They both worked for Disney lol

Kevin spacey is in the same category as weinstein basically... attacked dozens of people according to the allegations.

There are rapey pedo jokes right up until 2012, 3 months after he was hired by Disney.

Post-Weinstein

"Ugh, Weinstein was soooo last week"

• Hollywood, probably

They are going to put their heads down and try and plow through the negative public opinion until it's no longer on the radar. Then continue on with their criminal lust while having even less to worry about.

This guy needs to get beaten.

I agree. No investigation, no trial. Let's just beat him to death!

/s

He didn't say when or where. You made the assumption it should be now.

If you want to argue semantics, then the OP made an affirmative statement without a qualifier. Op wants the man beaten, plain and simple.

Removed. Rule 4.

Hacked of course, c'mon...

The problem is always money. Money corrupts people into needing that prison-time more than anyone else and simultaneously insulates them from it

Eh, seems like the worst tweets were from before he reached mainstream success.

I bet if these articles came out before Guardians, his reaction wouldn't be an apology, but a "HA TROLED U LE EPIC STYLE".

I don't doubt it. Sounds about right for his behavior from that time period, and based off his half-apology, I think he'd agree as well.

Another nonchalant pedo openly talking about / promoting pedo agenda. I looked up his show PG porn, 2 episodes are with peanuts characters. All seems to be an attempt to normalize / encourage child sexuality. Gunn deserves the death penalty.

Reminds me of Milo.

Because he's not a pedophile. It's offensive humor, the kind anti-free speech SJWs try to censor and now the conservative version of SJWs are doing the same because Gunn had the audacity to say he doesn't like certain conservative personalities.

Hes allowed to say what he wants. No free speech infringement here at all. He wasnt arrested for his words.

If anyone in the public view jokingly says racist or sexist things then it is a huge issue. And they are deemed a racist/sexist publicly(PapaJohn). It is obvious he is part of the establishment as this isn’t on every news network now. Imagine if was a right-winger. Your thoughts?

Imagine if he were a right-winger. Your thoughts?

You would have never heard about it at all.

It would never make the news, and if it did, people would be talking about how "everyone is so offended theses days, can't snowflakes take a joke!"

It would make the news, you and I both know. People can’t take a joke now a days. But any pedo joke is crossing a line honestly.

If he was a right winger, right wingers would be outraged that SJWs were trying to get someone fired with hyperbolic accusations because they were offended by provacative jokes.

Pedo jokes are now just “provocative” but any hint of a race joke is too far?

Your delusional. Your Party continues to be idiotic which is why trump will win again in 2020

It's just pure anger and hate, man. It's kind of ridiculous at this point. And you're absolutely right.

Agreed. It’s unbelievable at times.

I merely based my opinion by how the right reacted during the Rosanne incident which was literally less than 2 months ago.

thats a lot of "JOKES" for a 40 year old man in a year span lol

Lloyd Kauffman is 72 and still makes jokes like that.

Nowhere near this often or vulgar though.... and his friends haven't been arrested for CP and CT lol

That's exactly what it is. He's spends a good amount of time criticizing Trump, so of course Trump supporters have to come up with some bs to try to bring him down.

Yeah because Trump supporters wrote all those tweets for him...

Darn Russian bots!

Reread the thread, try to keep up.

I was under the impression that pedophilia wasn't a partisan issue.

Where'd you get that impression? Not here.

And here I thought SJWs were the only ones that made excuses for attacking people because they got triggered by provacative humor.

To be honest, you make a "provocative" joke involving sexuality and children around me and I'll attack you. I'll straight up punch you and see where it goes. I'll scream at the top of my lungs what you did so others know why we are attacking you, they may join in. I'm not a special case, either. Many people feel this way.

I hate PC culture. I hate child fuckers and jokes making light of it even more than I could hate PC culture. Edgy jokes are one thing, PEDO jokes normalize and encourage pedophilia, FULL STOP.

whats the difference between a baby and an ice cream sandwich?

I don't cum in an ice cream sandwich.

UH OH THIS GUY'S GONNA PUNCH ME AND SEE WHERE IT GOES

I mean, were you not an anonymous internet dweeb, yeah. Lmao

*I don't fuck my ice cream sandwich before I eat it

Meanwhile there's an SJW making similar statements about "rape apologists" and people who joke about rape because they're somehow pro-rape.

Edgy jokes are one thing, PEDO jokes normalize and encourage pedophilia

Reading comprehension. You're talking about rape jokes, rape on adults I assume. The difference with pedo jokes is that you can ONLY assume rape. The child cannot make those decisions that young.

Ya'll defending pedophilic humor makes me sick.

I love offensive humor because every time it's created it means we still live in a free society.

Internet tough guy alert!

reddit.com/r/Iamverybadass

You can’t even laugh at Doug Stanhope?

https://youtu.be/8APlx9btTn8

What a fearful life you must lead.

You creep me out. Wish I was lying. ”Provocative humor”? Why are you even making excuses for this guy? Why are you attacking people speculating in r/conspiracy

There are more worthy people to defend on Reddit. Why is this your mission?

Criticism and disagreement is attacking? That's SJW speak. Do better.

How's this: that's not humor. It has no edge, no witty punchline, no good timing, it's not provocative, it's just disgusting remarks about children.

Your subjective opinion is noted.

As is Disney's. My family loves his movies, I'm disgusted.

Yeah what could be partisan about the sudden rise is pedophilia awareness centered on a candidate for president fueled by her enemies and quickly spread to her campaign staff

What does that have to do with the dude who wrote Guardians of the Galaxy?

About the same as your post

Ah okay. So rape of mine ors is totally reserved to people of a republican mindset. Gotcha.

if you have to put words in my mouth (textbox?) then you are missing something

of course all the democrats are pedos, its literally in their campaigns... that guy is just a troll trying to hate on our president

A maxing how many people here are defending this fucking pervert.

What's amazing is people who hate SJWs acting just like them.

Yeah, people defending pedophilia is just as amazing as people being hypocrites. /sarcasm I cannot imagine the effort it takes to live with yourself if you take money to make these posts. I worked as a telemarketer for bullshit online college courses, and I felt dead inside peddling that poison - this, this is on another level.

I do it for free because I love freedom.

Making offensive jokes and then criticising Trump.

Dude finally found out how to offend both sides!

Trumpsters are way more easily offended.

Only when it suits them. Let's be real, they're not actually offended. They're just acting like they are to take down someone who they don't like. Trump makes comments, 'oh it's just locker room talk!' Rosanne does it, 'quit being such a snowflake'. Gunn does it, 'somebody think of the children!'

The comments he made were shitty, because they weren't funny and in poor taste. If there's any evidence of a crime or any allegations come forth, by all means, lock him the fuck up. Lock up all pedophiles. But right now this outrage is nothing more than a manufactured witch hunt. Should he have been fired? Well, he probably never should've been hired by Disney in the first place, you can't say shit like that these days, joking or not. But they hired a Troma writer, what did they expect?

Exactly this. They will moan all day about PC culture and SJWs taking away their right to be offensive but then start pearl-clutching when it's a liberal saying things they don't like. I'm not defending his jokes, they're not even close to being funny. But some logical consistency would be nice.

If you’re comfortable with the amount of pedo jokes he has posted then maybe check yourself. Does this compare to Roseanne’s single comment? She was vilified and lost a lot. This is should be nonpartisan BTW

dude, you realize that at no point in the history of man kind was trying to sensor free speech and "offensive humor" not been a staple of conservative culture, right?

This kind of pearl clutching has always been a pillar of the right, and the fact that you honestly think this is a "conservative version of SJW" just shows how much of an effect the propaganda has had on you.

In the last decade it's largely been the left at the forefront.

In the 90s it was also the left, the 80s the right, the left again in the 70s and that's just in America.

It has less to do with what side of the fence you sit on and more to do with fear. Fear demands control, control involves censorship.

Are you going to back up those feels with facts? Because I can give you a laundry list of Conservative groups that tried to use the courts to censor everything from Marilyn Manson, to the very concept of rap, violent video games (which is a well conservatives like trump still go to). You were right about fear though, Unfortunately fear is the entire motivating premise of the right. But I'm guessing you're way to indoctrinated to see this.

Tipper Gore, husband of former Democrat vice president Al Gore, also went after music.

I grew up in a Christian Conservative county that banned alcohol and frowned upon certain types of music because of its "Satanic" influence. I'm not saying Conservatives don't do it because I've lived under it so I'm well aware they do.

What I'm saying is it's a fallacy to think that behaviour is exclusive to the right.

A) Tripper Gore is a third wave Democrat, a political movement that is known for being super conservative compared to even regular Democrats. So not exactly an SJW

B) the Parents Music Resource Counsel existed in the 1980's when you claim it was the right who were trying to censor people

C) I'm not saying that censorship is exclusive to the right, only that it's so ingrained in their culture that its really super dumb for you to say that conservatives doing what they've always done are "Conservative version of SJWs". It's like you've been trained to go after the left no matter what.

Shhh, you’ll scare them with reason and drive them to shower and understand that sometimes a pizza shop is just a pizza shop.

the kind anti-free speech SJWs try to censor and now the conservative version of SJWs are doing the same because Gunn had the audacity to say he doesn't like certain conservative personalities

I guess the question is where were all the anti-free speech SJWs all this time given this stuff was out there and easy to find?

How comes in the US all the pedos are top company execs and here in the UK it's only Muslamist grooming gangs that are the only pedos in the country?

youe forgot about law enforecment and Parliament and most of The BBC.

youe forgot about law enforecment and Parliament and most of The BBC.

Not law enforcement but you are right about members of parliament and BBC but lets also not forget the MUSLAMIST GROOMING GANGS that Tommy Robinson/Steven Lennon/EDL don'tt want us to forget.

This is a lie, it’s just that you chavvy plebs don’t acknowledge the pedophilia of white people at all.

You only care about race and ignore all the crimes done by you.

Are you clinically retarded? Or just forgetful?

Jimmy Saville wasn't American and if you think he was a giant statistical outlier, then I'll go with my first question.

Democrats were untouchable for the last 8 years and they were banking on another 8 years of Hillary who would have normalized all of this disgusting sexual deviance

Trump has done more to normalize deviance than she ever could have. Paying porn stars hush money, paying for abortions, "grab her by the pussy", kicking it in teen girls dressing rooms, fucking his daughter.

They never thought she would lose

Why is he so open about this?

Twitter was their safe place. Remember a year ago when people discovered all sorts of pedo cp trading groups on the site? Twitter banned the reporters.

It’s a way of life - they feel no shame!

do we have confirmation? or is someone fucking with him?

It's him fucking with someone else. The tweet OP led off with isn't Gunn's words, it's Gunn retweeting someone else's words - or more accurately, pretending they are his words. It's a fake retweet.

The guy Gunn fake retweeted is Peter Alton, a friend of his and frequent collaborator. He's screwing with a friend here.

That OP and others are painting this as a pro-pedo tweet means they either don't understand what they're reading or they're knowingly lying in order to smear Gunn. Take your pick.

Either way, tasteless though the joke may be, it's clearly anti-pedophilia if he's using the joking accusation to screw with a friend.

If you think this guy screams “antipedophilia” then check yourself

You don't accuse someone of being a pedophile because you think it's a good thing. The whole point of the accusation, even in jest, is that it's an awful thing.

He didn't accuse his friend of being a pedo. He quoted him word for word and didn't even cite his friend as the source. Doesn't sound like ousting to me..

The corruption went all the way to the top so this guy knew he and his friends would never be prosecuted. Every election that has happened in our entire lifetime has had 2 pedo candidates running against each other. It was supposed to be Hillary vs Jeb in 2016.

That's Hollywood for ya

The first one, which was seemingly most damning, was a fake retweet of I'm assuming a friend. It's not him admiting he likes it. He's saying that the guy Peter Alton said that he likes it when little boys touch him.

The other stuff was mostly him accusing people of being pedophiles.

I thought /r/conspiracy was about critical thinking.

Maybe because it is so normal among people he handouts with, he thinks it is a new norm to be a pedo.

I mean, in context it seems like they were intended as jokes. Bad taste and who knows what truth lies behind jokes.... but jokes nonetheless. So I don't think it was so much a case as "being open" as not being smart enough to recognize how bad the "jokes" would look.

Because he's not a pedophile, he's making a shitty 'edgy' joke. There's a difference.

You wont feel shame if the people you surround yourself with participate in these sick practices. It just becomes normalized.

The story about the monkey was told to him by a friend, and in context (I.e. Go read the story) is pretty funny.

Don't have time to go through all of them but the others sound weird at face value.

Why delete if they were such hilarious jokes and call-outs?

Because we live in a conviction first, context later world. I don’t agree with his tweets, but I totally get why you would delete stuff when career destroyers are lurking your social history.

Given how people jump on suspected pedophiles and how the sexual harassment/abuse thing is going in Hollywood right now, deleting anything that sounds suspicious and can misconstrued is preemptive damage control. Granted, it may make him look guilty, but it could be just a career-saving attempt.

I'm not giving him a free pass, I'm giving another viewpoint here, don't take this as me shouting for his innocence.

Your last line is something else that has come from the “conviction first” culture. You shouldn’t even need to say that, but you know you better.

Exactly. It's ridiculous. I read every link in the OP, there are accusations, but nothing overtly damning. Weird? Sure, but context is ALWAYS important. Everything/Anything can be taken out of context and misconstrued into something else. I'm all for pedo's and 'elites' who think they're above the law getting what they deserve, but I also am for freedom and "Innocent until proven Guilty" as outlined in our justice system. I've had people take my words out of context quite often, because my sense of humor and social skills aren't "normal", and I hate being persecuted for misunderstandings.

Is this what is going on here? I don't know, but convicting someone just because they're famous and there's a witch-hunt is wrong.

Is this what is going on here? I don't know, but convicting someone just because they're famous and there's a witch-hunt is wrong.

Who has convicted anyone?

Rosanne lost her show for much much less.

And the Witch-hunt on her over stuff wasn't entirely correct either. I'm against it no matter the target. Burden of proof is in the accusor.

so basically what your saying is, if he left the tweets, he probably, did it, if he deletes them bc they can be misinterpreted by retards, he probably did it. great jerb.

No, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that someone has jumped on his tweets and has started thosing accusations. He can be deleting them for 2 reasons, 1st - Guilt to cover up his pedo-ness or 2nd - to keep anything else in his old tweets from being misinterpreted as guilt, and is trying to prevent a social media meltdown and keep from looking more guilty.

People jump and assume guilt immediately, I said I was offering a differing viewpoint. If one view says 'guilt', clearly the opposing viewpoint would be 'innocent' until proven to be guilty. Reading comprehension and some brain power. Good jerb there on you.

you sure have a crappy way of saying things then.

Read the whole comment thread.

Yawns

Given how people jump on suspected pedophiles

*reactionaries, nazis, idiotic amoral conspiracy theorists

This is what my family says but I say it more as a "trial by media" thing. And media = click bait

So trial by clickbait.

this is the video of the 100 girls thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ5VNXIiv1c

its a hilarious joke. pizzagaters have zero sense of humor, thats why now people have to go thru and delete anything some humorless pile of shit on the internet could (thru work hard) to misinterpret.

call a friend a pedo as a joke? you fuck kids. post a piece of art that has children playing? kid fucker. meeting a family of four and you dare hug the parents AND the children? 100 % pedo.

I think some of them are genuine in not understanding the humor because anything related to kids in any way is too outrageous, but you can tell his dishonest most of them are being by the framing, like a friend telling him about a monkey jacking it on a child actor, is james gunn "witnessing child sexual abuse and laughing about it"

bingo

No, it's just that when people start to learn just how rampant pedophilia is, especially in the entertainment industry, they find jokes like this a lot less funny.

Obviously this will lead to some assumptions, because the self-hate from ignoring it for so long is pretty intense. But people aren't ignoring it anymore.

fair enough, im sure it, like everything is a pendulum, and its gona swang.

Couldn't this explain SJWs? Well meaning people who are concerned about a real thing that actually exists who just take it too far? Hold onto what you're feeling right now - it's incredibly valuable insight into how people work.

post a piece of art that has children playing?

Ah, I must have misinterpreted... those nearly-naked kids with their hands tied were just playing!

didnt take long.

Yeah such a good joke , Huston Huddleston was such a joker he took it far enough to even be convicted of child porn charges! What a joker!

haha yeah anyone that jokes, just clump em all together.

is witch hunting your hobby or more of a "distract myself from shitty life" type of thing?

Keep on defending pedos. Must be a pedo.

thank you for summing up this entire witch hunt. it didnt take long, perfect comment.

https://www.gettyimages.fi/event/40th-annual-saturn-awards-after-party-499372973#/director-james-gunn-and-huston-huddleston-attend-the-after-party-for-picture-id451329644

went to party, must rape kids. why have they not made detective yet?

Went to party with convicted pedophile, made pedophile jokes with convicted pedophile, made multiple other references to pedophilia almost exclusively with no other attempt at "normal" humour. Nothing to see here!

you were there? what was the party like, oh shit, your a pedo too!

Nice deflection, kill yourself.

You have been on Reddit too long today.

If you are going to defend pedophiles and their actions, you need to be investigated for pedophilia YOURSELF.

perfect illustration of how dumb people think. thank you.

The guy who sent it to him was convicted of child pornography....

Does that turn that video into child pornography somehow?

Did I say it did?

You really think this guy doesn't warrant investigation?

Well why bring it up then? is everyone that guy has ever talked to on facebook a pedophile by association?

No, I think this is all just cringy edgy humor and its obvious what the joke was supposed to be in all but a couple of them(and those lack context to know exactly wtf it was supposed to mean) By this standard everyone working on south park needs to be investigated for the jokes they made over the years(the sex ed, the boy scouts, and the nambla episodes especially) It's also predicated on believing that he was just openly tweeting about how serious of a pedophile he was for 6 years on twitter. One of those conspiracies of being all powerful and also really stupid at the same time.

Why bring up that the joke was being made by a convicted child pornographer? Because that alone brings this from the realm of stupid jokes to pretty fucking creepy.

By this standard if Trey parker was on twitter making jokes @ jared fogle and talking about how Jerry Sandusky was his mentor, then yeah I would be suspicious of him too.

If he was making jokes with people who weren't convicted pedophiles, then its probably just a joke.

Well we know it's just a joke becuase of what the video actually is, theres no children in it, and that song being sung by a choir is a very common gag. We don't need to determine who all is a convicted child pornographer(8 years after this tweet, 0 evidence of how well he knew this guy)

https://www.gettyimages.fi/event/40th-annual-saturn-awards-after-party-499372973#/director-james-gunn-and-huston-huddleston-attend-the-after-party-for-picture-id451329644

They look so friendly.

An investigation? Sure.

A good ol’ fashioned Internet Witch Hunt/Career Destroyal? No, but that’s what’s going to be attempted anyway

Oh no whatever will he do ?!?! Probably just move to Thailand wth his 40 million dollars

Lol so just because he has money he deserves the witch hunt? Humans are doomed dude hahahahaha

Just the pedos and their defenders

This comes back around to the witch hunt and the fact that you have shit for evidence besides some tweets. You’s a good ol’ witch hunter

It was pretty obviously implied, otherwise your opinion is irrelevant.

No offense, but I feel like I want to leave that link blue...

Anyone got a tl;Dw?

Scala & Kolacny Brothers - I Touch Myself (Live)

it's a choir singing the "when i think about you i touch myself" song

Actually its not creapy at all. It is a choir of girls between 16-20 (the age isnt that easy to tell and some seem to be younger and older but all well aboth 14).

From all the strange pedophilia "proves" this is actually one of the most less spectacular if not just a song in a musical.

lmao

How did you know? I went to that link and it was a deleted page from his blog. I used wayback machine to see the archive of that link and there he was talking about some monkey cumming on some baby. There was a video there but it was saying "plugin unavailable". So how do you even got to know about this video being on the other side of the link?

Someone else found it by inspecting the page in one of the archive links you could find the url.

I found it because one of the comments on the blog mentioned "did you find this after searching for who did the song from the social network trailer" which this same group did, and also a comment mentioned "the cancer patient at 0:33" which if you look at that part of the video i linked it corroborates it.

Ok

Can you put the monkey story in context and explain why it's funny?

it was during a movie filming, his friend the animal handler sees the monkey walk over to one of the child actors, and yells NOOOOOO knowing whats about to happen, but isn't able to stop it in time before it jacks it on the kid, and everyone on the set panics

And that's funny....why?

why is a guy getting hit in the groin with a football funny? absurd bad things happening to people who aren't you can be very funny.

Because a guy is an adult, not a kid.

Ok so nothing involving a bad thing happening to a kid can be funny, so that "i'm gonna prank my dad" where the kid gets the trash bag thrown on his head, your only response to that is to clutch your pearls and wonder if the kid is ok?

Where did I say nothing involving a kid can be funny? What's your purpose putting words in my mouth? Why are you moving goal posts instead of addressing what my response is for? Stop derailing.

You didn't say much for you to say I didnt address it, a kid getting hit in the groin with a football is also funny, so I don't know what your point is.

Have fun with your opinions as you get older and lose the income to defend this. A kid getting hit with a football is a lot more painful than as an adult. Not always painful but if a kid gets hit in the groin with a football, how many people are seriously going to laugh at that? Really, sit down, seriously think about it.

Which is why i "derailed" to a video that a lot of people thought was hilarious, that involved a kid getting hurt. Yeah if you were there at the time it wouldn't be funny it would be horrifying, but you can laugh about how absurd things are after the fact. If I saw a kid get hit in the groin with a football I would help them, if I saw a video of it i would wince and laugh.

Not always painful but if a kid gets hit in the groin with a football, how many people are seriously going to laugh at that? Really, sit down, seriously think about it.

Lots of people? I remember "America's Funniest Home Videos" showing kids getting hit by balls/frisbees/each other on accident all the time. Or was Bob Saget also part of pizzagate?

I specifically said in the groin for a reason. That's the aspect I'm talking about, not in general.

No one cares Grandpa

Tupac cares, if don't nobody else care.

You're a helpful gal.

You sir are incorrect. I assume you are a sir, otherwise why are you trying to educate me on ball-pain? I don't remember any of the times I hurt my nuts as a kid. But I can clearly remember each and every time I've done it since puberty.

Kids are made of rubber. Self regenerating rubber. Go over to r/Childrenfallingover and tell me you're not having a great time...

The groin. I am speaking about physical groin pain only in kids. I am not talking about r/Childrenfallingover. I get amusement from stupid shit kids do sometimes but way too many are generalizing my phrase when it's very clear what I was specifically referring to.

I don't believe that there is any higher risk to children taking a shot to the groin than there is to adults. I'd read studies that support such a claim, should they exist, but I find it a stretch that their highly regenerative bodies, and as-yet-partially-formed gonads would suffer more significant damage than my old, broken chassis.

Lots of people, those kinds of clips were on You've Been Framed countless times, often they'd do special episodes just of mishaps with children and that was prime time Saturday evening family entertainment.

It's more like a dog humping a kid. Funny and something that most people would laugh at (including the kid involved).

Yeah, but getting kicked in the nuts is more different than a child getting jizzed on than you think.

A black man who was holding a bag of Cheetos and not a gun was shot in the head by police. Hilarious though, because he had a bag of Cheetos.

But go ahead and laugh it up. You're a wonderful man.

An adult being jizzed on in a flash by a monkey while his trainer futilely tries to stop him would be funny. you should go start a crusade on /r/imgoingtohellforthis

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! CHEETOS! Fucking hilarious!! 🤣🤣😂

Seriously though. How did we get from monkey jizz to cranial GSW?

How jesus fast does a monkeyload travel?!

Lol, honestly, I don't even fuckin know.

It's not even close to the same thing, especially when a child is involved.

Can't believe anybody would try to explain this away. Unless they were....

he was not there, its easy to not be aghast at it being a kid when hearing the story second hand. South park had an episode where cartman keeps "milking" his dog by jacking it off(not know what he was doing, and it sprayed everywhere) and it was hilarious. cut the puritan shit where everyone is a pedophile if they don't want to join in your witch hunt.

its easy to not be aghast at it

A telling comment in these final dark days of the legion trying to normalize pedophilia.

If you get something sexual out of what an animal does you may have a bestiality problem

I'm sure if we were to take this exchange out into the real world, the vast majority of people would recognize who's got the real problem.

Blocked. Adios.

Yes, most people find monkeys masturbating to be pretty funny. Not everyone is so pearl-clutchingly terrified of humor like you are.

Hmmm....let's see....what critical portion of this event did you leave out to help make your point seem less pedophile-friendly? Hmmm....trying hard.....maybe somebody can help me?

Because it's a kid getting jizzed on! Haha! Now please go see our next movie normalizing the sexualization of kids. We swear our perverted sense of humor reveals nothing about our character or behavior in our personal lives.

I hope you don't know any parents. Are you gonna call them pedos if they laugh about their kid pissing on their babysitter? I mean its a fucking child pissing on an adult. You just can't laugh about that you fucking pedo.

I hope you don't know any parents. Are you gonna call them pedos if they laugh about their kid pissing on their babysitter? I mean its a fucking child pissing on an adult. You just can't laugh about that you fucking pedo.

You realize there's a difference in agency there, right? Like a kid who can't control their own bodily functions is different than an adult who takes perverse pleasure in taking advantage of a kid (that again, has little to no agency). You know that right? Kids are different than adults.

Maybe the sarcasm of my post went completely over your head, but wow that was a strange response.

Perverse pleasure?

How is it more perverse than laughing at the dog when it humps a kid to the floor? Do you stop the dog? If you can. Do you laugh uproariously at the entire affair? Certainly.

If I saw a monkey jizz on you I'd laugh my sack off. Same as if it happened to a kid. If a grown man did it to a kid I'd have serious issues with that shit, same as if a grown man did it to you...

It's not about this specific joke - it sounds like an absurd scenario that I would find funny at the time.

It's this joke, taken with the dozens of other strange jokes, combined with a culture in hollywood that has been known to not only house pedophiles but promote them. People aren't getting offended over a joke, or a few jokes, but rather the decades (or more) of this shit being rubbed in their faces.

And when they eventually realize that jokes like this are a way of normalizing behavior that corrupts society via corrupting children, it's just not that funny any more.

Then this is the point that should be made. The big picture.

Cherry picking muddies the water, leaves room for argument and further obfuscation.

And the core of the debate in this thread seems to be context. Taking a few tweets out of their context can make the man seem like anything.

Then this is the point that should be made. The big picture.

Cherry picking muddies the water, leaves room for argument and further obfuscation.

True, true. I could've approached the subject more effectively.

Amazing how many pedo defenders are on this thread, and how many people horrified by anyone who would defend pedo humor are getting downvoted.

The psycho pedophiles and their pathetic enablers (from Disney?) have been unleashed here.

Huddleston has been charged with violating the following statutes of the California Penal Code:

288.3(A) – Contacting a Minor with Intent to Commit a Felony 311.4(C) – Makes it a crime to hire, employ, use, persuade, or coerce a minor to participate in the production of child porn 311.11(A) – Makes it a crime to possess or control any pornography produced using a person under 18

Little context for your 100 girls thing.

Nah, fuck that. You're seeing this shit with rose colored glasses. There's no fucking humor here.

Did you read the actual story?

It reads like something off of TIFU. The humor is in the fact that the trainer fucked up and the monkey was able to get his rocks off in 3 seconds.

Sad that some people are still defending him on twitter right now..

There's people in this very thread defending him

This sub is shill-infested.

Twitter even more so.

Anyone that needs more evidence to condemn this man to hell than tasteless tweets taken totally out of context is a damn shill I tell ya.

"I know right?"

"Like take the most damning of all them. The reply to an unseen tweet where he quotes himself talking about his NAMBLA attendance. There could be no possible jokes or further context related to that"

"Like on reddit, same as when I tweet, I absolutely make sure to use quotation marks to represent myself properly, as these mediums are not meant to be representations of my voice, so I must be clear that it is what I'm saying."

Where’s that logic when it came to Roseanne?

You can probably use your own logic to figure out the differences in the two situations.

I'm interested in hearing yours.

I'll put my pitchfork down, he was fired.

Does innocent until proven guilty mean anything anymore? Investigate him, absolutely, but he's not automatically a pedo because of this. He's a suspected pedo (and the evidence can be damning) but there's a reason we have due process.

All these freedom-loving redditors are quick to jump on the bandwagon and call for a person to be imprisoned before all the facts come out.

Imprisoning is absolutely innocent until proven guilty, public perception is not. If you don’t want the heat, don’t make publicly recorded pedophile jokes. If I did that, my own father would fire me from my job.

My concern is the double standard that people in power have when it comes to responsibility.

"Laws for thee but not for me"

I know you or I would be investigated for this. Do you think you'd get the same kind of trial?

Why would you be investigated for making crude jokes on twitter?

implying that isn't already happening to multiple people

I'm just asking, what is the standard for which someone should be investigated over something they've said?

In what manner should they be investigated?

By whom?

Show me

Nobody gives a shit anymore. We’re in the age of fast times. Everything moving fast. Due process takes too long. We need to accuse and convict within the hour

Makes sense

If you repeat your attraction for children more than anyone i've ever seen on social media, then I'm going to assume you're attracted to kids.

I mean what exactly did he do? Is there any evidence he actually did something wrong? Or are you convicting him without evidence like so many people on Twitter?

So you know the details in such an intimate way that you know he shouldn't be defended?

I upvoted this but the number disappeared...

He made tasteless jokes, therefore he’s an actual criminal who should be imprisoned. Great job /r/conspiracy, you have become the militant ultra left-wing feminazis you hate.

Was he joking when he said he went to a NAMBLA meeting? Where he finally feels ok with who he is, and is still friends with the people there?

Pretty obvious to me that he was. Just like people joke about being a serial killer or a rapist. Definitely not classy, also not evidence of actual criminal wrongdoing.

I hope living with your head in the mud really fulfills you.

So believing random things without evidence is the only way to not “live with your head in the mud”?

The evidence is the twitter, the blog, and all the pedophiles who were part of that circle. Gunn hasn't been convicted, but several people he was "joking around" with are convicted child pornographers.

Maybe if he were younger James Gunn would fulfill him.

Hey look, we can make tasteless jokes too!

How many convicted pedophiles did he have to interact with on twitter before you think there might be fire where there's smoke?

While you have a point, in Hollywood, can one be successful and not interact with sex criminals? Does that make one a sex criminal too?

Fuck that. There's a clear fucking line of what is okay to joke about and what isn't.

There’s a line of what is generally socially acceptable to joke about, and he crossed it. That means his career will be hurt if not destroyed, but it doesn’t mean he’s a criminal.

Why are you so offended by him going to a meeting of the National Association of Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?

Stop detailing.

I'm not. I just told a joke that involved "NAMBLA" being used, which is supposedly impossible.

We all know what NAMBLA stands for. A web search proves it. It is sinister, pedophilic shit trying to be normalized. This is not something I will joke about but if you want to continue with jokes like this, that's your conscious not mine.

I don’t

Whoosh

You know there was an entire South Park episode about this, right?

What was the context? Are we not allowed to quote or reference TV shows now?

Context is key. Do you notice that it is a reply to another tweet?

Do you notice it is entirely in quotes, which clearly suggests he is quoting someone (ie. probably not himself)?

So regardless of it clearly being a joke, we don't even know what it is based on. Seriously, the dishonesty is incredible here.

This is not how a conspiracy theorist should be dissecting information presented to them, it's fucking pathetic.

There's no need for fucking context. James gunn's tweets are not normal fucking things to say, they aren't fucking funny. They're fucking creepy, they look like, they smell like things a fucking child molester would say. Clearly it isn't very clearly a joke because I'm not the seeing the humor in this shit. But maybe you are. And if that's the case, there's no hope.

Again, context is key. You completely ignored the entirety of my response to a specific tweet.

There's no need for fucking context.

There's no need for fucking context.

If you are going to defend pedophiles and their actions, you need to be investigated for pedophilia YOURSELF.

Who are you saying does that?

Nah buddy, it's just like with gay bashers, the loudest ones are often actually gay themselves. YOU'RE the one we should keep an eye on.

It's funny, when I was young and from a conservative family, I thought that argument was just liberal propaganda. But after looking at profile pics on Twitter today concerning this topic, I actually think you're right. The angriest commenters all have that look to them.

It's hard to give a pass when he's the golden boy of Pedowood.

No that's Bryan Singer.

No, it's actually Spielberg, but there are many others.

I mean, our President has been accused by, what, a dozen women or sexual misconduct/harassment/assault? Good to see that’s being addressed.

This thread isn't about Bill Clinton, stop derailing.

Bill Clinton's not our president. He's talking about Donald Trump.

https://media.tenor.com/images/e09fb2569df6b57b3a7a6185edfa23c7/tenor.gif

to be fair thats the entire point of OP

Trump is on video literally saying he'd be dating a 10 year old in 10 years, and we've got idiots from T_D brigading multiple forums on Reddit trying to make everyone think James Gunn is a pedo because of some tasteless jokes he made almost ten years ago. But Trump actually saying he's gonna be dating a child? And having his teenage scantily clad daughter pose on his lap with his hand on her thigh? Oh that's nothing, right? And Roy Moore, whom Trump endorsed and many people in his town attest to him being a pedo and who even signed a girl's yearbook... also fake news! James Gunn though! Replied to a guy on Facebook once that turned out to be a pedo? He must be a pedo by association!

This is clearly just character assassination on the part of conservatives for god knows what reason, I don't know what James Gunn said to piss them off, but my trump supporting friends on Facebook were pissed about it this morning yelling about the liberals that would do this to Gunn. That's right, conservatives are now eating themselves alive in their insanity!

Is this thread about Trump? Go away.

This sub is about Trump.

Yes it is, because the guys that dug up these tweets were big trump supporters who did it precisely because James Gunn was an outspoken critic of him, and I watched this morning as T_D idiots were posting this story on every sub to help it gain traction, and they are now celebrating their victory over at T_D with multiple threads about it.

This story has Trump written all over it.

The assault jokes weren't funny when Trump said them and they weren't funny when Gunn said them.

I hate to see this become left vs right, but everything has to now.

Trump is on video literally saying he'd be dating a 10 year old in 10 years

That would be 20 years old.

Literally the complete opposite of a pedo.

Isn't 10 plus 10 20?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRMEDdtStUE

1992 was 26 years ago. Trump is 72. Trump was 46 at the time he made that comment about that little girl.

Trump would be 56 by the time she was old enough to date at 20.

Would you be okay with a 56 year old STD riddled pussy grabber who looks at women as sex objects dating your 20 year old daughter?

Would you be okay with a 46 year old man suggesting he would be dating your daughter in 10 years?

Fuck no, but for some reason people say these are just jokes

I mean I got called a right-wing nazi for saying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwXweiRjckI this shit was gross lol it's like you can't even be against all forms of pedophilia now without people thinking you have a political motive for it.

I am a liberal. I agree Biden's touching is creepy. Is there anything to it? I don't know. I don't care either, because he's no longer the VP.

whoa whoa whoa, what You don't care if he's fucking children because he isn't a vice president anymore? I uhh, I'm not sure how to respond to that lol

I don't care insofar as it's irrelevant to any political discussion, and it's stupid for Trump supporters to bring it up as some kind of defense because of that. I also don't care if Joe Biden is put in jail. Joe Biden, like Hillary, is now out of the political picture and it is absurd to bring them up.

Also while putting your hands on kids shoulders and whispering in their ear is creepy, it's not proof one is a pedophile. I could see someone being raised religiously doing this kinda creepy shit because that's just how they saw their parents and preachers behave. It strikes me exactly like the sort of thing an old preacher would do... And yeah a lot of them are in fact pedophiles, but not all. They're just fucking creepy.

Would you be okay with a 56 year old STD riddled pussy grabber who looks at women as sex objects dating your 20 year old daughter?

Sounds like Johnny Depp and much of Hollywood to be honest.

This is clearly just character assassination on the part of conservatives

nice try, but liberals commit more crimes

Political ideology represents an imperfect yet important indicator of a host of personality traits and cognitive preferences. These preferences, in turn, seemingly propel liberals and conservatives towards divergent life-course experiences. Criminal behavior represents one particular domain of conduct where differences rooted in political ideology may exist. Using a national dataset, we test whether and to what extent political ideology is predictive of self-reported criminal behavior. Our results show that self-identified political ideology is mono-tonically related to criminal conduct cross-sectionally and prospectively and that liberals self-report more criminal conduct than do conservatives. We discuss potential causal mechanisms relating political ideology to individual conduct.

(PDF) Political ideology predicts involvement.... Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309845639_Political_ideology_predicts_involvement_in_crime [accessed Jul 20 2018].

What a bunch of hose shit. The government don't keep statistics on whether a criminal is liberal or conservative. And what the fuck does that even have to do with T_D jackholes running this guy's reputation into the ground?

Our president? Your president. I don’t have a president.

Lol. Unfortunately he’s all our president. This country is responsible for electing him and we don’t get to discard ownership, no matter how despicable we may find him. Should give everyone motivation to get someone in there who they would be proud to call their president instead of the egomaniacal, out of touch moron currently filling the position.

No, he’s your USA president. Nobody else’s president.

Ah, look at my egocentrism. Fair. He’s president to all Americans.

Whataboutism? On this sub? Oy vey

It's interesting Mike Cernovich was the source for this. Mike has been known to smear people by taking their tweets out of context, which is probably a form of projection. Seen any of Mike's tweets?

After abusing a girl, I always immediately send a text and save a her reply.

- Mike Cernovich

Have you guys ever tried "raping" a girl without using force? Try it. It's basically impossible. Date rape doesn't exist.

- Mike Cernovich

Who cares about breast cancer and rape? Not me.

- Mike Cernovich

You can't rape the willing.

- Mike Cernovich

Important to note that this doesn't change what Gunn tweeted.

If you want to give attention to a guy who craves attention, I guess you can jump on Mike's lastest smear campaign. But I would advise you to read the article about the last time this happened. Cernovich pays people to dig up dirt on people who disagrees with him to get them shut down.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

Did the investigators fake the tweets?

They removed them from context. which can be extremely signifigant for if something is a joke or not or theyre a very public pedo. You can make the 10,000 pubescant girls touching themselves thing sound super ominous(we did not and never would click the link! blah blah) when if you have the context of what the video actually was the joke is obvious

Maybe people don't think it's funny to joke about child rape?

Well thats fine to be genuinely upset about that, he used to write for Troma which is stuffed to the gills with objectionable content, but mostly its people branding him a pedophile to get revenge for roseanne/trump/ben shapiro

So he's made career out of discussing material so that makes him less likely to h a sicko? I don't follow the logic.

I'm clarifying the difference betwee objecting to tasteless/gross/bad/cringey jokes, and calling him a pedophile for telling those jokes.

Are you not familiar with jokes?

Those things that make normal people laugh? Normal people don't usually laugh at the thought of child molestation.

In that article I linked, Cernovich tried to make it look like Sam Seder was supporting Roman Polansi. The truth was Sam was mocking liberals who supported him. The tweets were intentionally misinterpreted and then sent to MSNBC to silence Seder.

The layout of these contextless retweets follows a strikingly similar pattern.

Fool me once......

Sharing links to child porn is a little hard to take out of context

It wasn't child porn.

That's how far the narrative is twisting facts at this point.

What are your thoughts on him enjoying monkeys ejaculating on little boys? I'm just not in on the joke.

Its weird whenever sick shit is brought to our attention a bunch of people chime in to tell us its "art" or "humor" and "we don't get it" (like tony podesta having a sculpture of the pose Dahmer left his victims)

But no this is all clearly a bad joke. He was only pretending to be a pedophile.

=Just the same filth that YouTube had/still has problems with.

Disgusting.

So many to defend they are all being taken out of Context.

It's an open secret regarding Hollywood and the connections with Paedophilia.

And why did he delete the tweets and website?

P.S. I'm eating popcorn to see how much you shift the goal posts.

I don't think you're going to engage in good faith if I did reply. Enjoy your popcorn.

Oh wow that was proof of...um..er, something. Go you.

Also, nice way od confirming that you don't actually have an argument and are just sewing strife in the sub.

Yeah, what is his benefit though? Is the question to be asked, of which the answer is really not of a broad selection.

...can't get fooled again.

fool me can’t get fooled again

Important to note perspective and origination of a story or idea.

Mike Thernobitch is the epitome of male virility- soy boys dream of laying in his arms

Mike was always a creepy weird kid when I served in the national guard unit he was in.

I have many questions, so I'll just say thank you for your service and I'm sorry.

r/thathappened

/r/nothingeverhappens

JuiceBro is always accusing everyone of being pedophiles, it's his go to strategy. He's like the boy cried wolf, one day by sheer statistical anomaly he's going to be right, and no one is going to believe him. Or it's going to turn out he was the pedophile this whole time.

It's interesting Mike Cernovich was the source for this. Mike has been known to smear people by taking their tweets out of context

Which is exactly what he and OP are doing here.

Gunn did not tweet ""I like it when little boys touch me in my silly place," he made a fake reweet implying that Peter Alton tweeted it.

Why on Earth should anyone take OP, Cernovich, and this idiotic accusation seriously when they can't even get the surface level basics right?

Why on Earth should anyone take OP, Cernovich, and this idiotic accusation seriously when they can't even get the surface level basics right?

Because it helps the narrative that anyone who speaks out against the federal government is a horrible person

Because it helps the narrative that Hollywood and the media are run by pedophile Jews that want to destroy the white race

Because they get a power rush believing that directors have to bow to their whim or else suffer from the mob attack.

Because that's what they were told to believe.

It's interesting Mike Cernovich was the source for this.

No he wasn't. 4Chan found this last night.

That's all great, but what does this have to do with the tweets by Gunn?

To bad Cernovich doesn’t have an actual job besides being a mook. So you can’t ruin his “career”

Fucking disgusting. How these people go so long without being discovered I have no idea.

Maybe someone hacked his account?

Russians

Hang this dude from a street lamp and call it a day.

Removed. Rule 4.

Look at his description. Getting coffee = having sex, in the Luke Cage series. Maybe he is saying the elite want him to post stuff to monitor him in some way?

are you sure he wasnt hacked?

Podestas just received immunity from Mueller. Gunn feels safe

It’s not universal immunity from all crime, it’s specific to Manafort’s case.

This guy wrote Tromeo and Juliet; an extremely crass film for a production company (Troma) that riddles all of their films with sexist, homophobic, and racist shit. It's fantastic.

What the fuck did people expect?

That wasn't the way I expected the comment to go, and it made my day. The idea that anyone from the Troma team could make it in Hollywood today is insane, and yet James Gunn almost full creative control over a big budget marvel movie. He's always been a crude asshole, because he rolled with a crowd that loved being crude assholes, he's not like these starlets and execs who bend over backward to succeed.

Crude assholes convicted of child porn possession .

Citation needed?

Just because you know someone who is convicted of a crime does not make you a criminal as well. Your logic is extremely flawed.

If you joke with them about their crime it make you just as fucked as them.

Did you read the initial post of this thread that I wrote? Have you seen Tromeo and Juliet? Because if you have you would realize that him making crass jokes such as this is not surprising in the slightest.

Is he fucked up? Yes. We are all a little fucked up, some more than others. The point is that he made some inappropriate jokes. Nothing more, nothing less. Does that mean he is a pedophile? No. That is a fact.

Shameless pedo joker makes disturbing movies and that's supposed to make me think he's innocent? He's on the more fucked up end along with the actual pedos. I have no problem lumping him in with them After reading his tweets.

This is why people cannot take this sub seriously. You ignore everything that refutes your initial statement and beliefs, refuse to take opposing positions into account, and come across as uneducated. It's embarrassing.

Does him making a disturbing movie mean he is not a pedophile? No. I never said or implied that. I said that if you knew of his film history you would realize that him making crude comments or jokes such as these is not surprising.

Like I said in another post, the reading comprehension here is terrible.

"Don't pay attention to those crazy guys in Hollywood they aren't criminals they just have a different sense of humor!"

-That's you

No, I never said that. Again, your reading comprehension needs improvement. Taking things out of context to make a point is not how you build a strong argument. Stop embarrassing yourself.

jimmy savile had a "different " sense of humor

Read the above.

You don’t delete 10,000 tweets if there isn’t >something< to hide

ehhh, or he doesn't want to deal with a mob of people and having to explain the context of 1000s of tweets?

Pretty weird that anyone would defend this fucking creep.

who's defending him? his jokes were in poor taste and unfunny, but people are allowed to grow and mature. I know people who used to tell dead baby jokes, should they be cast from society? Immature senses of humor go away with maturity. Unless that person continues to demonstrate said immature behavior, I'm not going to crucify someone for shitty jokes they made years ago.

The top two or four comments are defending him. Well they're playing the "we don't really KNOW what he meant." gd this place is a fucking joke.

We know what he meant, he’s trying to be an edgy gross humorist, when he was younger. It’s cringe but it’s weird to judge someone for traits they no longer possess

I see what you’re seeing brother

Lol I know, they’re the same people that manipulate this sub on every other topic as well. It’s ridiculous that people would be trying so hard to play devils advocate for the guy when even Walt Disney just fired him.

i’d let people who make dead baby jokes around my kids. i would definitely not let someone who makes pedophilia and touching little boy jokes around my kids. i think comparing the two is a little off

Actually they’re both pretty trashy and I wouldn’t let anyone make those joke around kids but again you’re missing the point of tasteless gross out humor. They’re not designed to be safe humor. I’m not about to start policing bad jokes whether it’s Roseanne or Gunn

No, I meant that I wouldn’t let them around my kids even if they made them not around the kids. And I have an extremely dark sense of humor.

What’s the darkest shit you’ve laughed about or made a joke about? We used to outgross each other when making jokes back in college, try to top each others gross or dark humor. It’s weird to police humor or imply that someone advocates what they’re joking about.

Dude, I know. A creepy amount of excuses for this guy. Reddit never gives anybody this many “benefits of the doubt” Especially r/conspiracy

*BTW apparently you are a SJW if you do not find pedo jokes tasteful according to responses to my comment

Fair point I see your logic. I get it

Unless you'd rather not have the masses cherry pick your shit to shore up their allegations.

Though, it is Hollywood, so it's not like he's got the benefit of doubt behind him.

Still though, I can understand why an innocent person would do that...

Your logic makes sense and actually I agree with it. I get it. Some weird ones in there though

Oh totally. And it is in no way out of the realm of possibility that he's a creep. Hollywood after all.

The idea is Mob Justice seldom is.

Can't you still dig up deleted tweets anyways though?

Of course.

But media loves the low hanging fruit. If they have to go digging for their questionable dirt (and so does anyone who wants to verify what they are saying), they are less likely to bother, and just move on to the next flavour of the week.

What a bummer.

Pretty soon.....

(who am I kidding. we’re already there)

there won’t be much of a Hollywood left to enjoy.

Spielberg save us

Ask Spielberg what haven to Heather O'rourke

Spielberg is one of the worst pedos.

source or see yourself out

When the mob decides you're a pedo, then by god, that's what you are. Evidence? Don't need it. Investigation? We've got Google. Context? Don't want it.

Guilty until proven innocent. That's what the mob wants.

If you are going to defend pedophiles and their actions, you need to be investigated for pedophilia YOURSELF.

If you call someone a pedophile you need to be investigated yourself!

that is really dumb

How do we know you're not a pedophile? Prove you're not.

Hail mob. I love mob

Don't really need context on a man saying he likes it when little boys touch his privates. Are you fucking daft?

They love defending their actions anonymously.

Don't really need context on a man saying he likes it when little boys touch his privates. Are you fucking daft?

BREAKING NEWS: Pedophile drug addict admits to meeting a baby on the street alone in the middle of the night to buy drugs.

I'm not clicking that fucking link. That's IMPOSSIBLE, first off.

Second off, wtf dude, how is that your defense?

I pray that's an onion article or something like a joke and you're not trying to prove some weird ass NAMBLA point.

In what bizarro world do you have more upvotes than me. Weird.

Really, really weird..

God, this world never fails to surprise me.

I bet you are a "Democratic Socialist" with no sense of irony.

Wait how is that ironic? Genuine question.

He claims to not like the mob, yet is part of the muh Russia mob and supports democratic socialism (AKA mob rule communism ).

Ohh, I thought you meant the two systems were fundamentally incompatible or something. Thanks for clarifying

I bet everyone knew and nobody gave a crap until he got caught. These people are sick, if you still think Q is a larp, you should oepn a new tab and look up for the word LARP. (Don't click that snopes.com link thx)

On the one hand, I feel like I've always known James Gunn would have a racy sense of humor. Did anyone actually pay careful attention to those Scooby-Doo movies? And that movie with Rainn Wilson? It was kinda brutal. I'm of the mindset that anything can be funny, while also maintaining that nobody is exempt from good taste and bad taste (aka you can joke about anything freely but that doesn't mean people have to like your jokes).

On the other hand....what comes out of a man's mouth, speaks about what's in his heart. That's just old wisdom from the Bible.

Watch the movies he wrote for Troma. They’re completely fucked and in horrible taste, very very very offensive (i love them, I’m not saying that I’m offended by them) but it’s clearly the dudes sense of humor. They knew what they were in for when they hired him

They had to. I was surprised when Disney hired him. I thought Guardians of the Galaxy would turn out to be quite a different kind of Marvel movie.

This fucker is nailing Jenna Fisher. Damn.

was.

oh i didnt read into it enough

still though.. i was kind of shocked too. Now we have a possible idea of why they could have split.

maybe that's why she divorced him?

The hypocrites on reddit are out in full force. They all cheered when Rosanne lost her show for saying much less but not that it's their guy this is OK.

You can quote people’s responses to this pedo and reasoning for his jokes, and apply it to Roseanne’s situation but that will never fly. Double standards everywhere. Joke about being a pedophile is fine, but make a joke against blacks? Your disbarred from the world. This sub/site is a joke, but it’s why I come here to get other sides

And people still think pizza gate isn't real. Sad

This is why. Because you take a bunch of crude decade old jokes out of context and turn someone into a pedophile...

If you are going to defend pedophiles and their actions, you need to be investigated for pedophilia YOURSELF.

I don't think he is a pedophile based on what I see here. My impression is a decade ago he made some crude jokes on twitter that he seems to be ashamed of now.

Im just wondering if he felt these comments were worthy of twitter, what is he NOT saying...

Lots of Liberal Democrat pedo defenders on here.

Big surprise

It’s like you could be Jeffrey Dahmer, but as long as you’re anti-Trump, you’re A-ok. That’s how Trump Derangement Syndrome works.

FYIi am not a Trump supporter

It must be much easier being a Trump supporter, where pedophilia is celebrated and encouraged.

Quite the opposite, kid fucker

Roy Moore?

How so? Republicans and Trump maggots LOVE when a pedophile is in power in their party. To them the only crime a pedophile can commit is be a democrat.

Removed. Rule 10. Only warning.

this is such an obvious situation. the guy is sick and fucked in the head. yet tons of people defending him

Let Pedowood burn to the ground.

Screenshots of tweets are not primary sources. It could have been photshoped as easily as it could be real.

Therefore I take zero stance on this until I get some real evidence. The actual tweet links could have explanations, from bad jokes to...idk anything.

The tweets explicitly referencing pedophilia are jpegs. Not tweet links.

I have a conspiracy about your conspiracy. Lol

They’re jpgs because he deleted the posts and they are screenshots. I’m sorry this is so hard for you to understand

I understand the possibility for it to be screen caps. Im saying it's just as likely that it's photshoped. I'm not saying i agree one way or another. I'm explicitly NOT saying that.

Since when is skepticism discouraged on a conspiracy site?

Im asking for more evidence and will reserve my judgement till I see it

Good thing dozens have been archived

I'm kind of waiting for smoking gun evidence instead of just gross tweets by someone with a sick sense of humor. I know people who tell dead baby jokes but i'm pretty sure they are against actually murdering babies

That's exactly what I'm thinking. But it's clear this is also very much a political thing, even if the people that are losing their shit over this deny it. Gunn spends most of his free time posting criticisms of Trump, so of course Trump supporters are frothing at the mouth over this. At a glance it seems like just a guy trying to sound edgy. I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty, I'm saying this isn't evidence of anything other than a guy that thinks edgy is cool, and also evidence of the horrible political climate we're currently in.

Yeah, I agree. It's hard to ignore the political aspects of shutting down a vocal Trump critic on Twitter. Personally, I thought the takedown of Roseanne was excessive and overzealous, and I see history potentially repeating here. A personal who is historically an edgelord being destroyed over dumb jokes, except in this case, we are talking about ancient tweets that doubtfully reflect him at this point of his life.

I came to /r/conspiracy because it was the only sub talking about this.

It seems to just be a case of James Gunn's tasteless humor, the Family Guy "dude, he said that?! LMAO" type of shit.

It wasn't funny then and it's not funny now, but I can't help but feel it's only being talked about because Gunn frequently pokes at a politicial figure with a large online fandom.

Yeah you're so right. It's really hard to ignore the political component to this when Mike Cernovich is the one digging up and putting a spotlight on these tweets. I wouldn't be surprised if Gunn's tweets were the catalyst for digging through his tweet history to find some sketchy out of context tweets.

For the record, I think the pedo stuff DOES happen within government and hollywood, but i don't see evidence of it here given Gunn's history of being a provocateur and making a career for making gross out content.

It's also disheartening to see that Trump supporters aren't so different from liberals after all. Roseanne had a mob after her immediately that effectively destroyed her career, and Trump supporters are equally willing to do the same thing to a very vocal Trump critic.

I'm not the biggest fan of our current administration.

But he calls out our controversial president for also saying misogynistic and racist stuff despite the fact he was a part of the same system that trivialized rape and assault. He's acting holier-than-thou, and while I feel it's obviously jokes, it's still very disappointing. Especially since I know women and men who are victims of sexual crimes.

Yes, T_D and alt-right are probably overreacting by calling him a literal rapist. There's an agenda there.

But he still needs to know that this shit isn't funny.

The standards of decency for a director who churns out low brow horror flicks and that for the President of the United States are, and should be, different.

sketchy out of context tweets.

When it happens because he agreed with my politics it's "sketchy and out of context"

When it happens because they disagreed with my politics, they're a fucking nazi and a misogynist

I know you’re not talking about me because there’s no way you know my political beliefs.

Humor was pretty different 10 to 15 years ago

You can barely joke about the same stuff you were able to 2 years ago. Culture changes so fast

And the tweets are from ‘09&’10

The dude got his start making Troma films, the epitome of shock horror/comedy, for Christ's sake! If anyone is truly confused by his offensive tweets go watch Tromeo and Juliet

I'm not angry or convinced he's a creep. I'm not gonna boycott Guradians 3.

I still think even buy dark humor standards, these aren't very mature. It makes him look like a 14 year old fool, despite being over 40.

I've been watching Troma since the Toxic avenger came out. They're hilarious but they don't make jokes about fucking kids.

Pretty much everyone in this thread is confused and it's embarrassing. I feel like we're seeing a lot of users from a particular subreddit represented in here.

https://i.imgur.com/vPXmr8B.jpg

It makes me happier than it should when someone gets the reference :-)

How do you feel about Roseanne's tweets?

Her's probably had more "real" meaning than Gunn's, as in, there was probably more truth in them to how she really felt.

That said, a standard was set and shouldn't be bent based on politicial standings. James' fate must be the same.

I'm 99.999% sure he's not a pedo, but this is a "those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" situation. He's known for siccing twitter brigades against people making "off color" jokes, so now the tables are turned on him. Just another example showing if these people didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any standards at all.

Talking about children touching your genitals is just edgelord humor from his immature days when he was 45 years old

Like I get calling someone else a pedophile as a joke because they are dating a 19 year old but...

when does anyone ever call themselves a pedophile as a joke? When would a standup comedian get up and say "I love it when boys touch my peepee" like James Gunn?

The goal of gross out humor is to gross out the listener

Except no one laughs, they say "what," look around, and contemplate whether they need to call the cops or beat you.

Yeah it’s not funny. People grow out of that type of gross out humor and it’s evident that he has. He’s a very public persona

when does anyone ever call themselves a pedophile as a joke? When would a standup comedian get up and say "I love it when boys touch my peepee" like James Gunn?

You are not reading Twitter properly. Gunn is not calling himself a pedo, he's calling Peter Alton a pedo. That tweet is a fake retweet. The words are meant to be Alton's.

That's what the "RT" at the start of the tweet is and why the statement is in quotes. Before Twitter officially added retweeting as an official feature, people would Tweet something like:

RT @username "tweet being quoted goes here"

People even continued to do it for a couple of years after the feature was officially added, just out of force of habit.

I'm sure many people in this thread are not familiar with Twitter and simply don't know that, but many more appear to be purposely leaving that unacknowledged.

Sorry James but you lost.

Yeah, lets not forget he got his start doing Troma films. He may just have a fucked up sense of humor. Have there been any direct allegations?

None

He's been booted by Disney now so there must be some weight behind it.

He’s booted because they don’t want to deal with negative PR, not because there is weight to it. Corporate executives are quick to distance themselves from any controversy, look at Roseanne getting fired for a “racist” tweet about someone no one would have ever guessed was partially black.

Look what sub is essentially the PC police now

fucking SJWs

Trumptards are the new libtards

Only when it suits them.

I literally know people who were raging about Roseanne getting fired and are joyous about Gunn getting fired. Total hypocrites

disgusting

Mike Cernovich is a rapist

More he aspires to be one.

Do you guys think Qanon is real?

More and more every day

I’m pretty sure he’s joking....

disgusting.

Oh please.... this sub REACHES more than a 2 year old grabbing whatever you dangle in front of it's face. I read all the tweets on here and a bunch more cited in multiple articles. There's absolutely nothing that even remotely hints "this dude likes kids". He has (or had) a fucked up sense of humor. That's literally it.

I'm sure if I went back and looked at some of these commenter's Twitters from seven to eight years ago, I could find way worse tweets.

sup James

I hope the FBI searches your computer.

Lol. It's like the exact opposite of r/beetlejuice

And they can go ahead, I don't give a fuck. I have nothing to hide. I don't watch child porn, I'm not a pedophile nor do I support either of those.... it's actually funny that you think my comment somehow suggested that. This subreddit is just absolute shit sometimes. And an example is the common stretching and reaching for connections that are not there. And it always comes up in the same common themes, like pedophilia in Hollywood.

Go back to investigating your DC basement pizza parlor pedo dungeon.

I'm ok with tasteless jokes. That stuff wasn't funny, it was creepy.

There's absolutely nothing that even remotely hints "this dude likes kids"

not even the retweet of a child porn link?

Where?? I read all the tweets and I didn't see that...

Jeezus fuck! What the shit Hollywood!?!

I bet TMZ is gonna investigate,roast, and destroy that sick fuck within the next few days.

What the fuck!

Disney loves them ped0s

I mean it's not new. Marvel is part of disney and disney is known for these crazy shit

I have to wonder if this is related in any way:

Approximately 4,000 People Expected To Be Laid Off As Part of the Disney-Fox Merger Process (2,300 From Fox & 1,700 From Disney)

What is it with the paedo apologists piping up everytime Paeodophilia gets discussed on this sub

Shills get extra antsy about pedo related posts

Well there's no evidence that he's a pedo, so....?

They are trying to add an extra 'P' to LGBTQWERTYBRAP

That’s a ReTweet (RT) meaning he’s quoting someone else

You guys can't be serious, if he was a pedophile, why would he post this? It's stupid to think this one tweet that he took down means anything. He made jokes in the past, but it's clear that this was just someone getting access to his account.

If he wasn't a pedophile why would he post this?

It was hacked by by by the Russians!

Director James Gunn and hit good pal Huston Huddleston attend the After Party for the 40th Annual Saturn Awards held at on June 26, 2014 in Burbank, California (June 26, 2014).

Huddleston recently pled guilty to child porn posession (over 600 images)! The FBI knew since 2013 but didn't act until after Comey was fired:

https://www.gettyimages.fi/event/40th-annual-saturn-awards-after-party-499372973#director-james-gunn-and-huston-huddleston-attend-the-after-party-for-picture-id451329644

https://twitter.com/AnOpenSecret/status/1020374356143345665

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Accounts get hacked. Mine was hacked due to passwords being stolen from another website where I used same passwords. The account was converted to a porn promotion account in no time. They didn't even change the password only wanted to post stuff.

Damn Russians! Leave Hollywood alone!

Nevermind he accepted the tweets.

Please tell me the police are investigating this???? That guy needs to be investigated immediately

What pisses me off more is that Disney disavowed him, pretending like they didn't know! They only HIRE the pedophiles, that's how these large corporations work, gotta be part of the club.

Disney needs to go down as much as Hollyweird

https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1020390335598481408

This is good to hear as I absolutely HATE guardians of the Galaxy and the dumb, forced humor in a lot of marvel movies so now I have another reason to hate this director. Thanks OP.

that Windows XP

I like how Cernobitch is getting credit when got it at least 3rd hand from pol.

Has pedo replaced cuck as the insult dujour?

Pedo's not an insult, it's an attempt to ruin someone's life. If anything it's replaced "communist"

Sick fuck on his instagram:

https://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FDiiEJlcVMAA60Uy.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fcjtruth%2Fstatus%2F1020287024220319744&amp;docid=nvLYPDEY3Dyq6M&amp;tbnid=VriavEmhHrKaFM%3A&amp;vet=10ahUKEwiXzcnwsK7cAhWlp1kKHUg0D88QMwg0KAwwDA..i&amp;w=640&amp;h=859&amp;bih=916&amp;biw=1280&amp;q=james%20gunn%20illuminati&amp;ved=0ahUKEwiXzcnwsK7cAhWlp1kKHUg0D88QMwg0KAwwDA&amp;iact=mrc&amp;uact=8

there are people who are defending this dude lol

Unfuckingreal...

That poor boy. You can see the terror in his eyes. This is so maddening!!!!!!

BREAKING: Disney Fires Trump-Hating James Gunn — Guardian of Galaxy Director — For Pedophelia-Laced Tweets

https://truepundit.com/disney-fires-trump-hating-james-gunn-guardian-of-galaxy-director-for-pedophelia-laced-tweets/

https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine/status/1020390335598481408

He was just fired. Not defending the guy but why tweet dumb shit. This applies to anything at all besides pets , pictures of food and such. It’s 2018, you can’t just write shit with impunity.

He's a fucking sicko!

He’s clearly joking lol. Take your tinfoil hats off and put down your pitchforks.

Yeah, I thought this too when I saw the comments. It reminded me of Justine Sacco. Ill-judged misfires at attempted jokes. If he was a pedo would he be making pedo-tweets?

I'm going to wait before jumping the gun. Hold my pitchfork for now..

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Some stupid pedo apologists just put online a petition asking Disney to hire him back, stupid assholes!

https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-bring-back-james-gunn-for-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3

https://imgur.com/a/lTtppCL

linked to tony podesta

Of course he is! Our poor kids...

The Hollywood pedo ring is closing ranks. They knew Gunn was a pedo, that’s why he felt so comfortable sharing pedo tweets. They will let him be the sacrificial lamb to protect the rest of the Pedos.

Another pedo bites the dust. Makes me wonder, though...

Obviously some very powerful people would like to normalize pedophilia. Yet the stigma and public outrage surrounding pedophilia is what makes it valuable blackmail material. So they really can't if they want to maintain their control.

I like the idea that they are being caught in their own catch 22s.

Mike "date rape doesn't exist" Cernovich is no paragon of virtue.

No he isn't and should STFU.

I think this guy was into shock dark comedy. People cannot even make jokes today because of PC. What he tweeted was wrong considering he represents Disney. He deserved to be fired and to be labeled negative things because he supports and embraces the political groups that forced this correctness.

What here proves or even suggests that James Gunn is a pedophile and not just someone with an edgelord sense of humor? Shit like this is really common. I used to make jokes like this in high school. I grew out of it, but some people don't. That doesn't mean they're pedophiles.

If you're tweeting like this at 40 something is wrong with you, period. He retweeted a link of child pornography too.

If you're tweeting like this at 40 something is wrong with you, period. He retweeted a link of child pornography too.

That's a huge fucking accusation. Prove it.

Wtf is wrong with people defending this guy so vehemently

No? You're just gonna throw accusations of child pornography out at someone and not back it up at all? Seems like you want this to be true and you're falling for some right-wing bullshit.

lmao it's right wing bullshit to want a guy tweeted about fucking children over 300 times to be fired? my god

Show me where he retweeted a link to child pornography. You made this claim, back it up.

I already did, you replied to this comment twice lol

I see nothing. Mind posting your evidence?

OH, I get it. You're correcting the record. Your comment history is disgusting.

Looks like your post is being immediately deleted:

I think the link he's referring to is the blocked out URL labelled something like '100 pubescent girls touch themselves' - it was actually a link to a choir singing that song 'I touch myself'. Tasteless joke, poor choice of song from the choir, pretty gross all round but not child porn.

yes, it IS bullshit.

Well I'm happy the bullshit won lol

Nobody “won”. A millionaire director got fired from his next big gig because of some crass words he typed onto a phone years ago. Actual freedom loving god damned Americans should be outraged at the IDEA that someone would be fired for making offensive jokes.

But according to TedX, it’s all good

Fucked up sure but where in here does it say he violated children?

He didn't, he only made offensive jokes.

He was fired for attempting edgy humor many years ago.

...yep, that's how stupid this all is.

thats not stupid, it makes perfect sense. you don't get to make kids movies after joking about fucking them in over 400 tweets lol

How many over 400 were there? 421? 402?

He made those jokes before he even worked with Disney. SJW really, really yearn every day to find their public villain in any way they can, and Disney bowed to the new target.

all of the things i've uncovered in the last 19 hours about this guy and his friends who have been convicted of pedophilia make the firing even more reasonable.

Anything is 'fire-able' so that means little.

What have you 'uncovered' exactly - because if it's worth anything at all, we'll contact the police. Go ahead, post it.

To be fair I didn't uncover anything lol just learned about his past assistants and friends and some of the people he tweeted to about torturing children have been convicted of CP and trafficking.

all of the things i've uncovered
To be fair I didn't uncover anything

Ok then.

Idk y u assume the ppl here ate SJWs trying to expose pedos. There are also many alt righters who try to expose them too

I didn't say anything about the people here.

he didn't fuck any children. he's getting fired for writing outrageous words, dude.

We don't know if he fucked any children, his friends have been convicted of CP and CT though. Regardless, you don't have to fuck children to be a pedophile which he probably is

Who cares what his friends may or may not have done? I know a guy who murdered someone. That doesn’t make me halfway murderer. You are being silly.

I wonder if THIS is the REAL REASON why Jenna Fischer (Pam Beasley/Halpert) left him.....

Is he an actual pedo or is he trolling cuz people say that kind of shit on the internet.

This proves how stupid SJW's are. The guy was trying to make jokes, some of which are many years old... and now people are trying to state he is a pedophile - without any proof of him being one.

That website link was him discussing a series of incidents involving how difficult it is to work with animals.

I'm confused.

Why do so many people care about exposing potential pedophiles? I mean, as long as they aren't actually raping kids, then why bother?

Is this a joke bro? Yeah, I kinda want the folks in power to not be fucking children. I don't think that's too much to ask lol

That's what I said. If they are NOT raping kids or doing anything wrong, then what's the point?

Hey-O! James Gunn: Guardians of the Galaxy director fired over offensive tweets

I was about to say "quite a lot of accusing going on based on a likely hacked twitter"... then I read the bullet points, and, well.... that whole situation is very very odd. Wtf is going on in that hollywood bubble/clique? I'm interested to see where this leads - and also terrified.

Yup, just your average normal guy with average normal tastes:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/jgunn/photos/?tab=album&amp;album_id=10152594717256157

Follow the white rabbit

Careful man, a mindset of banning something you disagree with (such as offensive jokes) sets a precedent that implodes upon yourself eventually, when the collective starts to disagree with something you have to say

Gunn is NOT a pedophile. He had a dark sense of humor 9 years ago, used Twitter as an outlet for his crude humor/style that we've seen plenty of other directors, producers, and screenwriters put in their own movies, but because they didn't tweet it it doesn't matter, right?

Gunn was being lewd on purpose, not an "openly caught in the act" type of deal, more so a "hey look at my EDGE" situation.

This entire thread is so misinformed.

These people think they are untouchable

I feel like I fell asleep and woke up in a world where everyone is my grandmother being disgusted by obvious over-the-top gross-out humor.

If anyone is offended more by Roseanne's singular tweet than any of Gunn's pedophile-esque tweets, you are the problem.

Dude wrote Terror Firmer, which, in the first five minutes has a fetus being ripped from a woman’s stomach and then tug of war’d back and forth What did they expect? He’s clearly got a pretty dark sense of humor

Also, Mike Cernovich is a no talent, blat ass, piss and shit filled diaper baby of a human

I have to imagine that there are pedofiles out there that don't actually act on their desires. Maybe James attempt at humour was a way to take the piss out of a taboo, to contribute in some small way to changing attitudes?

Has he even been accused of anything illegal or is this mans career over because of bad, insensitive jokes?

You guys are aware that one of the links is of Mike Cernovich twitter account and if u look at the pinned comment, he's talking about the James Gunn situation, but if u look at the comments on his twitter video it shows that people have already EXPOSED him for making the exact same fucking comments as James Gunn. He's a fucking hypocrite man. This has to be KNOWN.

Yes, he's a pedophile because of his dark sick sense of humor. Lets also call out Patton Oswalt, Daniel Tosh, Doug Benson, Mr. Family Guy....

Remember that family guy joke about Stewie escaping Kevin Spacey

James Gunn tweeted this and quickly took it down

Quickly took it down? Taking a decade is quick now?

When it resurfaces, yes.

People in here are saying a guy openly admitting he likes to touch children isn't proof he's attracted to children lmao

I can't understand why people are defending this. There isn't another side to this, you don't joke about jacking off to clothed preteens touching themselves and post the video.

At some point just maaaaaaybe, after entertaining millions of people and having a successful career, it could be catastrophically autistic to say "good riddance" because someone got canned for a JOKE on the INTERNET they made 10 YEARS AGO.

Not to mention the guy who sent him the video was just arrested a couple months ago on, you guessed it, child porn charges

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/05/man-who-rescued-star-trek-tng-bridge-set-now-faces-child-porn-charges/

All of these sophisticated PERVERTS need to simple give up. They need to be exiled to San Francisco and pick up crap all day 7 days a week.

Crazy. And Disney just let him go to. He’s not allowed to produce the next guardians of the galaxy.

Need proof he is a pedo, not just random stupid tweets.

These aren't random, and these aren't merely "stupid"; we're talking about dozens of pedo-centric tweets.

You're either not too bright, or............well, I don't even want to consider the alternative.

Why on Earth would you go to bat for this guy? What he's tweeted doesn't raise any red flags for you?

You'd be perfectly fine with him babysitting your kids?

No where in my post did I got bat for this guy. People post the stupidest shit on twitter to try to be funny. Maybe he is a pedo, maybe he isn't but some random ass tweets doesn't prove anything.

Not defending Gunn (wasn't even aware of him before last night), but remember TPTB could build a "Shocking pedo" online evidence case against any one of you if you become influential enough online in regard to pushing true conspiracies.

Again not defending Gunn if he is a pedo.

Um it's on his own website

Yeah and i'm sure on some random forum I used when I was in middle school, there is a 9/11 joke I made. So I must be a terrorist then!!

He was 40

where he told a story about watching a monkey masturbate on a young child

This post just showed on my front page so I clicked through to learn more about what this story is.

This one was not him watching a monkey - he was retelling someone else's story about noticing and then trying to stop the monkey.

Yawn.

This was pretty funny though

That said, I pretty much dread working with animals on set, as they are all pains in the asses. Each one is its own little Val Kilmer.

Val lost his voice because he tried to pray away throat cancer. He doesn't seem 'open' to outside advice.

Disgusting.

What the fuck?????

Am I having a fever dream?

None of this shit seems comprehensible. 10,000 comments? How the fuck do you make 10,000 catastrophically perverted and depraved comments, as a celebrity, and not get caught?

As an average Joe, if my bladder were about to explode and I peed on the street in an alley at 2:32 AM, a cop would pop out of a bush and arrest me and id be registered as a predator.

Grotesque.

Talk about hooked on a feeling. Or fooling around and falling in love...

Didn't he have a Twitter meltdown the other day? Looking at his Twitter and there are lots of posts about Trump being treasonous, double agent, no Democrat warmongering with Russia, infatuation with Obama, etc.

Good riddance, probably a nonce.

Notice the description from twitter.com trends list:

Uniteded States trends: James Gunn Director James Gunn removed from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 over rape jokes

It feels like they're downplaying it a bit.

These are old tweets, which he explained as him being edgy. Remember folks, there’s always two sides to every story!

He was just a poor naive 40 year old

Are you not allowed to change opinions or evolve your personality?

Only if a Republican does it. If a libtard does it then it's wrong.

Yeah, apparently people believe that at the age of 40 everything about your existence is ironed out then and there, so I guess the concept of a midlife crisis has been eradicated.

Gunn didn’t just tweet all that edgy shit recently either, it’s all way old. Though I assume most of the hate directed at him is from the sheep who only see a headline and not actually look into stories.

TIL from the comments here that being an obvious pedo is just being "edgy"

what are you talking about? someone making obscene comments is not proof that they fuck children.

are we headed for some sort of pedo-fear-based clamp down on free speech? am I going insane?

The pedos are running for them hills, with their backs to the wind they´ll be a hollering the Wilhelm scream in no time.

https://movieweb.com/james-gunn-fired-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-tweets/

They make it more about the Trump tweets in the article, somehow

I am not jumping to the conclusion that he is a pedophile. If you've ever seen him in a behind the scenes feature for any of his non Guardians of the Galaxy films, you'd find out pretty quickly that he's a very boisterous, vulgar and abrasive person who has a very unsavory sense of humor (further illustrated by his past work with Troma, a production company that thrives on making the most shocking B movies humanly possible.)

I think his shit sense of humor got him in trouble with Disney and now he's running damage control by deleting tweets.

When sense of humor uses touching children. That IS NOT humor.

I'm not defending the quality of his jokes. I agree with your statement. But for all the griping about how PC culture is ruining America, it sure seems tough to to get past people saying dumb things on Twitter, eh?

Agreed.

He's just an edgelord fuck sake

Watch the movie "Super"....written and directed by Gunn.

Tell me that Ellen Page isn't basically just a pedophilia fantasy during that movie. Ellen Page is 5 foot nothing, super petite, and looks about 15. In the movie, her character is completely written as if she is some kind of manic 12 year old. Everything she says and does is over-stated like she is some impulsive, naive child.

She volunteers to be the main character's "kid sidekick", to which he asks how old she is. "I'm 22 but compared to you I'm a kid". Her superhero outfit is basically a cheerleader/schoolgirl uniform. She gets into crimefighting and attacks people with a literal childish delight. Next to Rainn Wilson, who is very tall and in his 40s...she absolutely comes off as a child. She asks to make out with him and he even says "You are my kid sidekick"

Then comes the moment where she wants to have sex with the main character....and she describes a certain piece of her anatomy as "gushy"....using the type of word a child would use. Then she pounces on him(in costume) and bangs his brains out.

In light of all of this controversy regarding his tweets....the sort of secret intention behind the Ellen Page character in that movie is telling.

James Gunn himself was in a relationship with Mia Matsumiya...a 4'9 Asian woman who is 13 years younger than him. Red flags everywhere.

Wow a lot of comments in here supporting this 'edgy' humour. I'm personally stunned he was able to say shit like this in public for so long? And become a huge director employed by Disney? HOW?

the left are eating their own its marvelous.

You idiots will believe anything.

Why delete if they were such hilarious jokes and call-outs?

this is the video of the 100 girls thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ5VNXIiv1c

Can you put the monkey story in context and explain why it's funny?

Huddleston has been charged with violating the following statutes of the California Penal Code:

288.3(A) – Contacting a Minor with Intent to Commit a Felony 311.4(C) – Makes it a crime to hire, employ, use, persuade, or coerce a minor to participate in the production of child porn 311.11(A) – Makes it a crime to possess or control any pornography produced using a person under 18

Little context for your 100 girls thing.

No, they did an episode tearing it apart a while back.

Sharing links to child porn is a little hard to take out of context

And why did he delete the tweets and website?

P.S. I'm eating popcorn to see how much you shift the goal posts.

"I know right?"

"Like take the most damning of all them. The reply to an unseen tweet where he quotes himself talking about his NAMBLA attendance. There could be no possible jokes or further context related to that"

"Like on reddit, same as when I tweet, I absolutely make sure to use quotation marks to represent myself properly, as these mediums are not meant to be representations of my voice, so I must be clear that it is what I'm saying."

It's not about this specific joke - it sounds like an absurd scenario that I would find funny at the time.

It's this joke, taken with the dozens of other strange jokes, combined with a culture in hollywood that has been known to not only house pedophiles but promote them. People aren't getting offended over a joke, or a few jokes, but rather the decades (or more) of this shit being rubbed in their faces.

And when they eventually realize that jokes like this are a way of normalizing behavior that corrupts society via corrupting children, it's just not that funny any more.

went to party, must rape kids. why have they not made detective yet?

Crude assholes convicted of child porn possession .

Well thats fine to be genuinely upset about that, he used to write for Troma which is stuffed to the gills with objectionable content, but mostly its people branding him a pedophile to get revenge for roseanne/trump/ben shapiro

Where’s that logic when it came to Roseanne?

Except no one laughs, they say "what," look around, and contemplate whether they need to call the cops or beat you.

Please, where is your proof that he is a pedophile? You literally have none.

Was there child pornography found on a personal device? No.

Is he being accused of having sex with a minor and is there proof of such act? No and no.

Is their any real evidence to support that he is a pedophile and not just a crude jokester? No.

But please, give me your "evidence". I would love to show you exactly why it would never hold up in a criminal proceeding and why these allegations will never hold any weight. The man made some crass jokes, we all have, it doesnt mean he is a pedophile.

Shameless pedo joker makes disturbing movies and that's supposed to make me think he's innocent? He's on the more fucked up end along with the actual pedos. I have no problem lumping him in with them After reading his tweets.

Nah, fuck that. You're seeing this shit with rose colored glasses. There's no fucking humor here.

If you call someone a pedophile you need to be investigated yourself!

I don't doubt it. Sounds about right for his behavior from that time period, and based off his half-apology, I think he'd agree as well.

No he isn't and should STFU.

How do we know you're not a pedophile? Prove you're not.

there are people who are defending this dude lol

Yeah, what is his benefit though? Is the question to be asked, of which the answer is really not of a broad selection.

He’s booted because they don’t want to deal with negative PR, not because there is weight to it. Corporate executives are quick to distance themselves from any controversy, look at Roseanne getting fired for a “racist” tweet about someone no one would have ever guessed was partially black.

Yeah and i'm sure on some random forum I used when I was in middle school, there is a 9/11 joke I made. So I must be a terrorist then!!

That poor boy. You can see the terror in his eyes. This is so maddening!!!!!!

I do it for free because I love freedom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRMEDdtStUE

1992 was 26 years ago. Trump is 72. Trump was 46 at the time he made that comment about that little girl.

Trump would be 56 by the time she was old enough to date at 20.

Would you be okay with a 56 year old STD riddled pussy grabber who looks at women as sex objects dating your 20 year old daughter?

Your subjective opinion is noted.

I don't care insofar as it's irrelevant to any political discussion, and it's stupid for Trump supporters to bring it up as some kind of defense because of that. I also don't care if Joe Biden is put in jail. Joe Biden, like Hillary, is now out of the political picture and it is absurd to bring them up.

Also while putting your hands on kids shoulders and whispering in their ear is creepy, it's not proof one is a pedophile. I could see someone being raised religiously doing this kinda creepy shit because that's just how they saw their parents and preachers behave. It strikes me exactly like the sort of thing an old preacher would do... And yeah a lot of them are in fact pedophiles, but not all. They're just fucking creepy.

If nothing is off limits to joke about, then why did Roseanne lose her job?

Her boss sucks

Well I'm happy the bullshit won lol