Trump conspiracy
1 2018-07-29 by ssomethingclever
I voted for trump and I will never identify as a Republican. (I live in the states, grew up in the south, now go to school in the Midwest) I think with that term comes corruption. My conspiracy is that trump paid into Washington for a long ass time. He knows everyone who’s getting paid to do whatever the rich want. Political views have nothing to do with it. And now he is finally in a position to expose them and that’s why even the republicans in office hate him. Why else would fox and CNN both attack him (not all of fox attacks him but do you catch my drift?) if he was really a monster do you really believe he would be in power? I think he’s a brilliant business man who is an old fucker who speaks his mind and doesn’t make it sound pretty. He knew what the people wanted, he knew how he’d win, and he did what he had to to win. But the shit that is posted on Facebook is edited more often than not. And I’m sure that goes for other politicians as well. But it makes sense what I’m saying. I’m not saying trump would be a cool neighbor to have tea with, but I’m saying I don’t think he’s a racist or an abuser. I was raised by an abuser. I know them. I see them everywhere. I know how to spot them. He is not an abuser in the sense the media wants him to be.
But that’s my thoughts. Everyone is welcome to have theirs and it would be pretty cool to have an adult conversation about it. I think it’s important to give views and see what the other side has to say (without swearing and hate). And maybe I’m too optimistic or just naïve, but hey isn’t that what anonymous reddit is for? To say things we can’t say to anyone?
Don’t be an asshole, maybe you’ll change my mind or someone else’s who is open to discussion, but you won’t if you’re an ass about it.
47 comments
1 brofistnate 2018-07-29
Please explain brilliant businessman. I will continue after. He was born into money, pissed most of it away, and wound up with some shady ass business deals. Hey man I could be wrong, just saying that’s what I have seen in half a century of Donald Trump. Maybe you have seen different and I am listening.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
Well I see what you’re saying and I agree with it, but I also think he knows what needs to be done to get where he wants to be. Yeah his dad gave him one million dollars (who knows if my or your sources are correct). Also I don’t actually know about his losses, but I do know when people report losses on taxes (correct me if I’m wrong), there are loopholes to end up making money? But from what I know, which isn’t much because I don’t spend my days googling him(again I may have bad sources), is that he is a billionaire, he has many different businesses and is successful at a lot of them, if he wants to do something he does it and figures out who to pay to do it well. I don’t think he is stupid, by any means.
Also what do you mean by “pissed most of it away”? From my understanding he was giving a “loan” or probably actually a trust of one million dollars and used that to start himself. Are you talking about this or just that he was a rich kid who did whatever the fuck he wanted (which is also probably true) Which is not feasible for 99.9% of people and I totally get that and think it’s absurd to think he is entirely self made. Even if he didn’t get money from his dad, he still came from success and has the name.
1 brofistnate 2018-07-29
Upvoted for now. I’m sorry, exhausted, will respond after sleep.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
I get it, here is the notification for you to remember. Thank you!
1 bmc52 2018-07-29
Trump has been widely known as a failure. No actual business man looks at him as a genius business man. His father gave him much more than 1 million dollars. His first business venture is still the only successful venture he has had and that was completely financed by his father. The only reason that was successful was Roy Cohn negotiated a sweetheart tax deal with the city. Everything he has done on his own was a colossal failure. His casinos, his (fraudulent) university etc. The actual billionaires in NYC thought of him as a laughing stock. A man who became a celebrity for being rich but they knew he was anything but. His “businesses” are really just licensing deals that he attached his name too. He’s a celebrity, nothing more.
1 Sly_McKief 2018-07-29
I don't think there is any conspiracy with Trump at all. What you see is what you get with him.
Trump is saying the same things he has always been saying. His number one focus is the economy, which is the #1 issue with voters every election, every time. His policies have done more for the US economy in 2 years than Obama did in 8.
I truly do believe he has real Americans best interests at heart. He's doing the stuff no other politician would ever dream of doing.
He's exactly what we needed at the most critical junction in our nations history and the people see that as clear as ever.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
I agree with a lot of things he does in the way I perceive them. I agree he has our best interests in mind. I also think the media tries to make him look bad and I mean go on Facebook, they are comparing him to hitler. What I’m trying to say is I see a lot of people hating trump because that’s what they see online or on tv. Maybe I’m wrong, that’s the point of my post.
1 Sly_McKief 2018-07-29
Yep I agree, and that should tell you everything you need to know...
If you want to know the identity of the real rulers of your society, merely ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
That’s some true shit, damn.
1 Redditor_on_LSD 2018-07-29
They don't try to make him look bad, Trump's behavior is controversial enough that it warrants the negative headlines. He brings it on himself, I'd say 75% of the time it's his Twitter ramblings. Seriously, if he just stopped using Twitter the news would have almost nothing to report. But the man can't stop stirring up controversies and unsubstanciated conspiracy theories that are designed to question the credibility of everyone that doesn't bow down to him. There is seriously something wrong with Trump's behavior. The man has made a habit of insulting our allies, nearly every single one, in fact. He attacks journalists, celebrities and even businesses whenever they do or say something he doesn't approve of. He attacks our own government institutions and our first amendment rights. He's called for libel law reform to make it easier to sue journalists for "fake news." He's called democrats "treasonous" for not applauding him at his State of the Union. He's called journalists the "enemy of the people." And anyone that thinks he isn't at all racist is refusing to acknowledge reality.
And yet he has never once said anything negative about Putin. Why?
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
I also don't agree with the twitter thing, I don't understand why he tweets a lot of what he tweets. There has to be a reason for it, but I do see what you're saying. I mean I believe he isn't crazy, I think he is methodical and there is a reason for what he does. but again maybe in naive. Thank you for contributing to the discussion!
1 DonnaGail 2018-07-29
I think you are right.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
Thanks, I also think there are a lot of good points in these comments as well. I don't know what to believe I choose to believe the benefit of the doubt, I don't want to live in a world where I feel all hope is lost and our president is playing with our country's future. So I believe he does what he says, and believes it will be beneficial.
1 DonnaGail 2018-07-29
I think he is on our side. The fact that the Media, Democrats, and some Republicans are fighting him so hard, leads me to believe he is a good man.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
I also share that thought per my rambling post but did you read some of the other comments? So many people hate him with so much energy. Media is powerful
1 DonnaGail 2018-07-29
Don't worry about the people who hate him. Stay Positive. There are PLENTY of people who like him and stay silent about it.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
That’s true and that’s why I think he’ll win again
1 DonnaGail 2018-07-29
Yes, he will definitely have two terms.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
Only time will tell but I think he will
1 DonnaGail 2018-07-29
I know he will win. I don't just think it. 🙂
1 theawesomethatis 2018-07-29
The trump metaphore i like.
Trump kept asking "That political machine over there... it's making horrible noise, not working. and leaking blood all over the carpet. Anyone going to fix that? Anyone?"
And never got any response other than "soon" or 'why don't you fix it.'.
And after 40 years of it not being fixed, he got up off his nice comfy life chair and is damm well going to fix it.
Might not be a technically correct fix. But it IS going to work again.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
This is cool, Is this a real quote?
1 theawesomethatis 2018-07-29
It's a real quote from me i guess.
I've said it in several forms since 2015~2016.
Fits too. Old grandfatherly type dude had enough bs and he got out of his chair!
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
I feel like I’ve seen or heard it somewhere but who knows. Who actually knows what sources we can really trust nowadays. Love or hate trump, most college aged kids don’t trust the media anymore
1 theawesomethatis 2018-07-29
If i've learned anything in ~5 decades of watching this world.
It's they really shouldn't trust the media for more than selling something.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
I’m 21, my perspective will change as I grow up, and get married, have children, and see the world change. But I think it’s a good point to make to say you can’t trust something fully unless you do the research. And even then you’ll only search until you find what you want to find
1 dashmihok 2018-07-29
I actually think he didn't really want to win.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
That’s interesting. I mean I don’t get why he’d want the job, but maybe it’s power or he wanted to help or that he’d thought it would be fun to campaign. I heard he ran in the primaries before this most recent election and didn’t get far at all but then change his game plan. Is this true?
1 dashmihok 2018-07-29
I'm not sure about that last part. I also think it's funny that the media pushes this russiagate thing like it's the worst thing ever. But never mention that he opened 8 or 9 businesses in Saudi Arabia during his campaign. But I guess that's just normal corruption, and they're cool with that. Plus the Saudis being our buddy and all.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
Trump did that? And yeah it’s like the media decides what’s important to report on and everything else just isn’t as important to them
1 Redditor_on_LSD 2018-07-29
Yep. One of many shady things he's been up to
There's those patents Trump was trying to get approved for 10 years:
Then there is this:
I could go on for another 30 minutes but it's almost 4am. You get the point. The dude isn't going to train the swamp, he is the swamp. It's disturbing that his supporters pretend this isn't happening but it is. There's a reason the President is supposed to divest from business interests, especially if they're international: what if the U.S. needs to take action against a country (for whatever reason) and he has business deals that would be negatively impacted by his actions?
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
Okay I’m so tired, it’s 3am where I am. I will read this after some sleep but thank you for taking the time to type this up! I will respond with my thoughts later today
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
Okay I am reading this now, thank you for commenting. That’s all interesting and disturbing. It’s methodical. I don’t know what I think about that right now. It’s not that I don’t believe it. How do we know this to be true? Is it all public knowledge and accessible to us? (also stand by while I click on the links)
1 hotairbabboon 2018-07-29
I second this. I don’t think he expected himself to win, and would use Hillary/Democrats/rigged election as an excuse. He would have been this American patriot figurehead in the minds of his supporters, his brand would have seen increases in revenue etc. The picture I attached can clearly be taken out of context or just at the wrong time, but with everyone around him being so cheery I think it’s something to consider.
My main issue with him is nothing means anything in this administration and that sets a horrible precedent. He’s recorded saying something on video, 2 hours later says he never said that, and a day later we have the Press Sec spewing the same lie, all while we have the original footage showing he’s just lying. Facts, statistics, nothing carries any weight.
https://i.imgur.com/33jHRrb.jpg
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
That’s an interesting take on the first point you made. I see that. Also, yeah that’s a great picture for this discussion. He may be internalizing things, he may be disappointed, or surprised or maybe he was napping because he is 72 (lol that was a joke for any grumpy guss out there). For your last point, I’d have to see the video to know what you’re talking about. For those types of things I can’t trust it unless I hear it and see it and see the proof, does that make sense or does it only make sense in my mind? I just can’t speak to it without the video to watch on it but thank you for your commentary, I appreciate your thoughts :)
1 FoxKnight06 2018-07-29
He is 100% a racist
1 Sugarismyfavorite 2018-07-29
To believe this we have to believe that our votes actually matter.... HA
but all in all good points. I've thought this myself once or twice. Thanks for sharing!
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
That's what I feel like to, I feel like 99% of Washington is corrupt. Why else would the bush family, the Clintons, and the Obamas be best buddies now? the politicians from both sides of the isle party together and do whatever the fuck they want, its sad and its all fucked. that's also why I don't think its worth arguing about, but the discussions are interested to have
1 Quexana 2018-07-29
Trump is a Saruman.
He doesn't want to destroy the ring. He wants it for himself. He doesn't want to eliminate the Dark Lord. He wants to replace the Dark Lord.
The establishment hates Trump (and the degree to which they hate him at this point is up for debate) not because Trump wants to break them, but because he wants to rule them.
1 BlackDeath2018 2018-07-29
What evidence is there of this. And how would destroying the previous power structure be beneficial to trump if he’s just trying to be Super Hitler(my emphasis)?
1 Quexana 2018-07-29
I'm not saying Trump is Super Hitler. I'm saying Trump isn't trying to upend or destroy the establishment or the deep state, but is instead trying to rule it and bend it to his will.
Has Trump stopped or even slowed the NSA from spying on you? No, he isn't. He's pulling security clearances of people who are being personally "mean" to him. With a move like that, the goal isn't to stop the deep state from doing what it's been doing. It's to make the deep state less willing and afraid to challenge Trump.
And you can look at every aspect of the establishment, and see the same thing happening.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
That’s interesting. And honestly I don’t know about the NSA, I didn’t do research on that so I can’t speak to that. But from what you said, I see what your saying and I see the point of view. I don’t think the media will ever be loyal to him, I think they hate him
1 Justsaguy12345 2018-07-29
He lost his "head" aka his brain. He wont squeal.
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
what do you mean?
1 Justsaguy12345 2018-07-29
He lost his "head" aka they control his brain. He wont squeal.
https://goo.gl/images/rZ8S6p
1 ssomethingclever 2018-07-29
That’s an interesting take on the first point you made. I see that. Also, yeah that’s a great picture for this discussion. He may be internalizing things, he may be disappointed, or surprised or maybe he was napping because he is 72 (lol that was a joke for any grumpy guss out there). For your last point, I’d have to see the video to know what you’re talking about. For those types of things I can’t trust it unless I hear it and see it and see the proof, does that make sense or does it only make sense in my mind? I just can’t speak to it without the video to watch on it but thank you for your commentary, I appreciate your thoughts :)