Its right wing larping. Now that they have seen this administration plunge us further into debt, not fix anything actually become more corrupt make inept leadership choices it's time to find a new boogeyman that further takes them out of responsibility of the choice of still supporting this madman. Trump is fighting the boogeyman deep state and Qanon is in deep cover helping and sharing what he can. It's not even good enough to pass the sniff test much less logic or facts. it's just leaps of inconsistent babble and do I think Trump plays into it? Hell yeah He knows there is a contingent of his base that are crazy hence the relationship with Alex Jones and the like. but basic fact is this. He can declassify anything. He hasnt. He wont fully declassify the JFK files. He is just focusing on keeping his buddies out of jail somehow and deflecting and playing into this type of hype.
Why should you listen to anyone else on the interwebs on whether something is true or not? I might have an agenda for telling you something lol, so you really have to find out yourself.
So you don’t personally think that there’s a secret pedo ring within the top level of our government, nor that trump is fighting the deep state. Is the deep state real in your opinion?
Seems to me like you already have an opinion. I’m not sure why you’re asking the question if you are already a believer? Are there pedo rings and sex trafficking yes, in government and the general population, it’s definitely a problem in all spheres of society. The only thing Trump is fighting is his mental health and the lack of sanity. Deep state, nope.
Thanks for taking your time responding. I value other people’s opinion such as your own. Opinions change. There may not be a deep state... but strong corporate influences seems true in my opinion
Some people have said the "deep state" is also government workers/agents that are anti-trump.
I really don't like the word now...
I really like your point about "strong corporate influences". I don't believe that there's a secret society rubbing their hands together and plotting. But there are some shady people in this world doing some bad stuff through lobbying and other forms of legalized bribery
A clever tactic is to mix lies with truth. By acknowledging what was once an elitist dirty secret “Q” maintains a shred of credibility, while leading people no where like the Pide-piper.
Im not saying there arent elite illuminati-ish aristocrats who dabble in pedophilia and other sick occult like behavior because its probably true and history shows us that the elite are pretty out of touch with the decency of humanity BUT
what q crowd does is way overboard. they basically accuse everyone and anyone, mostly their political enemies, of being pedophiles with incredibly vague and usually poorly connected evidence to support their theories.
Is q real? I highly doubt it. Is trump the enemy of the illuminati cartel thats in control of portions of our government infrastructure? Most likely he is in some way putting up a struggle against them but it is in no way as described by the q community. Trump, just as any other president or world leader in fact is just another pawn, another puzzle piece in the overall agenda of these elitists who will in some shape or form use him to their own advantage and gain in the long run.
That argument would work except... it did pay off. Huge amounts of sex-conspiracy related arrests. Historical North Korea peace talks as projected. Russia de-escalates after decade of crazy escalation. Untouchables such as Podesta and Soros put in hot water now. From the perspective of a hardcore Q follower, what you're saying wouldn't falter them.
That's a false dichotomy, but it is happening on all sides. The corporate media is playing pied piper for most of the population between propaganda outlets like Fox News or MSNBC, and Q anon is playing pied piper for some of the people who didn't get captured by the corporate media.
yes but the real question to ask is psy-op or not, which parts are half truths, and whether you agree with his alleged MAGA movement.
As for me, I was at feeling this was real and positive around November, then I called it out as a psy-op to "tread cautiously" over months later (trust Sessions what the fuck?), but after the whole peace w/ NK and Russia events I'm kind of on mostly on-board with this Q thing. I figure Q still isn't giving us the entire truth about his agenda, whether it be for a hidden transfer of power or what - but if it can bring about some de-escalation and peace like I've never seen then it's good enough for me. I'm pretty much a classical liberal, don't like conservative culture but I can agree with peace and any form of decentralization. iow I'm for the dismantling the deep state, if that's really happening.. but Trump movement looks to be a replacement of the deep state rather than a dismantle, eh I'll take what I can get.
It's definitely not a LARP though, anybody who can't read between the lines enough to figure that one out is pretty much weeded out from this movement, and will probably subscribe to mainstream left cancer or mainstream trumpism which is also cancer. Funny thing is a lot of Q followers act like cultists which I also find a complete turn off. But eh, if it's Q cult vs the deep state, I'll side with the former because the latter starts wars and undermines democracy.
I also want to add that Q makes alludes vaguely towards a lot of hot conspiracy topics. Aliens, nazi history conspiracy, etc... I don't trust most of what he alludes to or suggest. That's what I mean by half truths. Seems more like a way to appeal to the chan boards and become viral.
Filter out the noise and bottom line is this:
Q is here to round up Trump faction and MAGA faction support.
Unlike any political group we've seen - Q shows a governing body of power willing to communicate directly to the people - which even if it's a psy-op, makes this both a historical use of modern communications technology as well as rare gesture of respect towards the feelings and thoughts of common people via a grassroots channel of communication.
Those are the only 2 things that matter to me. Q is real, but I treat his words as noise. The "faction" he supports seems clear enough. The means he's using is an honor. Support him if you support what Trump-faction has been doing.
And what exactly is Trump-faction doing? Well perhaps the purpose of Q himself is to answer that question and circumvent the cancerous noise MSM and our now-controlled social media creates. And that once again brings us back to: how much can you trust in what Q says his agenda is?
Hard to say, to me Trump's unwavering Israel support and hiring of Neocons/Zionists Bolton and Pompeo disproves any narrative about him fighting the deep state.
However, wanting to talk face to face with NK, Russia and now Iran are steps in the right direction.
Earlier today there was a photo being taken of trump and a whole bunch of other people. Trump said: “this is the calm before the storm”.... and then played it off by saying thank you and telling the media to leave. Will there be large scale military action used against other nations? Will another 9/11 like even happen? Will I meet the girl of my dreams? These are questions I want to know
This didn’t happen earlier today. It was something he said over ten months ago. He probably just stuffed his face with Taco Bell and wanted everyone to know he’d be tweeting from the bathroom soon..
The original Q possibly..but he was hacked and then moved to 8 change after his last 4chance post said he was done and comprised,no more comms.
So some randoms start posting as him on 8 chan and they all just so happen to be the board owners/moderators and started up youtube channels right at the exact same time. They are all swimming in money now too...do the math..
Wikileaks says that Q anon is likely a "pied piper" operation. That's basically what the community here has been saying for months too. The people behind it are bad actors trying to get people to fall in line behind them, to capture "conspiracy theorists", have them waste time and effort investigating an ARG, and get them to blindly "follow the plan". Or in other words, take people who are naturally political opponents to the bad things the permanent state wants and trick them into supporting all the same evil shit they might otherwise oppose.
At best its a pysop designed to passify people interested in researching the deep state but new enough that they are easily gulled into believing someone close to Trump is posting cryptic messages on a fucking image board. At worse, its to rile up these same people and eventually it'll be used by the MSM to demonize them, thereby further dividing this country.
Hint: You don't need Q. Do your own research and you'll far surpass whatever Q has leaked.
I don't think so, but writing that means I'm a part of the deep state conspiracy to shut down "free thinkers" and actually lends credibility to Q's posts. So ... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Its definitely a "real thing" as in its actually happening, someone is posting things under the name "Q". As for its legitimacy, that is up to you to discover yourself. Read the drops, (qmap.pub), peruse r/greatawakening, read some other non-MSM stories about it. Make up your own mind. Something is up, thats for sure.
So a false lead meant to take you down the wrong path with one 2 word lone won you over? Guess sheeple exist even in the "woke" and "redpilled" masses huh?
It's a rarity that an outlet with any sizable audience shows they care. WaPo, NYT, CNN, they have infinitely deep coffers but constantly spread self-serving lies and half-truths. Alex Jones never showed any signs of care for his audience, it's all about shilling his bone broths and supplements. Whoever Q is, whatever his agenda, he has already shown more care for his audience than all those four combined in their entire existence. Go on, mock me, you half-baked cynic.
I think both real and fake. Real, as in genuinely on Team Trump, against the neoliberals. But fake in that Trump is still controlled, not allowed to fight the greater powers -- Israel, military/medical industry, etc
Of course it is fake bullshit. Now that it has become a popular following for casuals, like joking about big foot and flat Earth, it is starting to become a powerful brand/grassroots group. They saw how powerful a brand like Pepe could be and are sure to co-opt, infiltrate, slander, and destroy any brand that might be positive for their political rivals, just like poor Pepe.
When someone tells you that they are going to tell you a mixture of truth and lies, but never tells you which is which, I just don't think they are worth bothering with.
And since there isn't actually any point to Q's ramblings anyway, I wonder why anyone gives him the time of day. I mean, I'm sure it's addictively interesting trying to solve his stupid clues on a daily basis. That's why newspapers print crosswords.
But the thing about crosswords is that there is no greater purpose than the satisfaction of solving a puzzle. Tomorrow, you'll be presented with a new puzzle. And so on, forever. Pardon me if I don't sound enthusiastic about that.
So yeah, the minute Q says something that's both accurate and important, I'll pay attention. But my money is on him never saying anything of either.
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2 therodt 2018-08-02
Its right wing larping. Now that they have seen this administration plunge us further into debt, not fix anything actually become more corrupt make inept leadership choices it's time to find a new boogeyman that further takes them out of responsibility of the choice of still supporting this madman. Trump is fighting the boogeyman deep state and Qanon is in deep cover helping and sharing what he can. It's not even good enough to pass the sniff test much less logic or facts. it's just leaps of inconsistent babble and do I think Trump plays into it? Hell yeah He knows there is a contingent of his base that are crazy hence the relationship with Alex Jones and the like. but basic fact is this. He can declassify anything. He hasnt. He wont fully declassify the JFK files. He is just focusing on keeping his buddies out of jail somehow and deflecting and playing into this type of hype.
1 peanutleaks 2018-08-02
Is the sky really black
1 PinkyWrinkle 2018-08-02
Yeah, it's real. Is it true? maybe, maybe not.
1 Droplinebacker 2018-08-02
Why should you listen to anyone else on the interwebs on whether something is true or not? I might have an agenda for telling you something lol, so you really have to find out yourself.
1 PinkyWrinkle 2018-08-02
What?
1 knapster4444 2018-08-02
I want answers!
1 Droplinebacker 2018-08-02
Go check it out for yourself, and then come back and report to everyone else instead. You seem objective enough.
1 NomarGarciaVega 2018-08-02
This was deleted for some reason https://www.qproofs.com
r/qproofs
Just a couple of resources to Check out and decide for yourself! :) /U/lovethesnowfall
1 thinksalot 2018-08-02
Yes, it’s a really lame attempt at being a conspiracy that’s actually just bullshit, just like flat earth.
1 knapster4444 2018-08-02
So you don’t personally think that there’s a secret pedo ring within the top level of our government, nor that trump is fighting the deep state. Is the deep state real in your opinion?
1 thinksalot 2018-08-02
Seems to me like you already have an opinion. I’m not sure why you’re asking the question if you are already a believer? Are there pedo rings and sex trafficking yes, in government and the general population, it’s definitely a problem in all spheres of society. The only thing Trump is fighting is his mental health and the lack of sanity. Deep state, nope.
1 knapster4444 2018-08-02
Thanks for taking your time responding. I value other people’s opinion such as your own. Opinions change. There may not be a deep state... but strong corporate influences seems true in my opinion
1 TicsPoli 2018-08-02
Deep state is just a term to describe unelected groups influencing government.
What you describe as 'strong corporate influences' could be considered a 'deep state.'
1 jacoblikesbutts 2018-08-02
Some people have said the "deep state" is also government workers/agents that are anti-trump.
I really don't like the word now...
I really like your point about "strong corporate influences". I don't believe that there's a secret society rubbing their hands together and plotting. But there are some shady people in this world doing some bad stuff through lobbying and other forms of legalized bribery
1 brofistnate 2018-08-02
A clever tactic is to mix lies with truth. By acknowledging what was once an elitist dirty secret “Q” maintains a shred of credibility, while leading people no where like the Pide-piper.
1 EitherOrMindset 2018-08-02
False choice. "Either you believe the Earth is flat, or you don't believe in conspiracies." Nice try.
1 zig_8 2018-08-02
Im not saying there arent elite illuminati-ish aristocrats who dabble in pedophilia and other sick occult like behavior because its probably true and history shows us that the elite are pretty out of touch with the decency of humanity BUT
what q crowd does is way overboard. they basically accuse everyone and anyone, mostly their political enemies, of being pedophiles with incredibly vague and usually poorly connected evidence to support their theories.
Is q real? I highly doubt it. Is trump the enemy of the illuminati cartel thats in control of portions of our government infrastructure? Most likely he is in some way putting up a struggle against them but it is in no way as described by the q community. Trump, just as any other president or world leader in fact is just another pawn, another puzzle piece in the overall agenda of these elitists who will in some shape or form use him to their own advantage and gain in the long run.
1 Digitel 2018-08-02
the trick is to keep waiting. Getting strung along with constant expectations and let downs.
If this was happening to both sides without ever paying off what will the outcome be?
1 jjbanana 2018-08-02
That argument would work except... it did pay off. Huge amounts of sex-conspiracy related arrests. Historical North Korea peace talks as projected. Russia de-escalates after decade of crazy escalation. Untouchables such as Podesta and Soros put in hot water now. From the perspective of a hardcore Q follower, what you're saying wouldn't falter them.
1 Afrobean 2018-08-02
That's a false dichotomy, but it is happening on all sides. The corporate media is playing pied piper for most of the population between propaganda outlets like Fox News or MSNBC, and Q anon is playing pied piper for some of the people who didn't get captured by the corporate media.
1 Sanbob555 2018-08-02
Gonna leave these here:
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/Felsenthal-Files/June-2015/Dennis-Hastert/
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/Felsenthal-Files/December-2013/How-the-Podesta-Brothers-Rose-From-the-39th-Ward-to-the-White-House/
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/48488
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dennis-hastert-released-from-prison-early
1 foolsoftheworld 2018-08-02
There’s not proof. I hope it is
1 jjbanana 2018-08-02
yes but the real question to ask is psy-op or not, which parts are half truths, and whether you agree with his alleged MAGA movement.
As for me, I was at feeling this was real and positive around November, then I called it out as a psy-op to "tread cautiously" over months later (trust Sessions what the fuck?), but after the whole peace w/ NK and Russia events I'm kind of on mostly on-board with this Q thing. I figure Q still isn't giving us the entire truth about his agenda, whether it be for a hidden transfer of power or what - but if it can bring about some de-escalation and peace like I've never seen then it's good enough for me. I'm pretty much a classical liberal, don't like conservative culture but I can agree with peace and any form of decentralization. iow I'm for the dismantling the deep state, if that's really happening.. but Trump movement looks to be a replacement of the deep state rather than a dismantle, eh I'll take what I can get.
It's definitely not a LARP though, anybody who can't read between the lines enough to figure that one out is pretty much weeded out from this movement, and will probably subscribe to mainstream left cancer or mainstream trumpism which is also cancer. Funny thing is a lot of Q followers act like cultists which I also find a complete turn off. But eh, if it's Q cult vs the deep state, I'll side with the former because the latter starts wars and undermines democracy.
1 jjbanana 2018-08-02
I also want to add that Q makes alludes vaguely towards a lot of hot conspiracy topics. Aliens, nazi history conspiracy, etc... I don't trust most of what he alludes to or suggest. That's what I mean by half truths. Seems more like a way to appeal to the chan boards and become viral.
Filter out the noise and bottom line is this:
Q is here to round up Trump faction and MAGA faction support.
Unlike any political group we've seen - Q shows a governing body of power willing to communicate directly to the people - which even if it's a psy-op, makes this both a historical use of modern communications technology as well as rare gesture of respect towards the feelings and thoughts of common people via a grassroots channel of communication.
Those are the only 2 things that matter to me. Q is real, but I treat his words as noise. The "faction" he supports seems clear enough. The means he's using is an honor. Support him if you support what Trump-faction has been doing.
And what exactly is Trump-faction doing? Well perhaps the purpose of Q himself is to answer that question and circumvent the cancerous noise MSM and our now-controlled social media creates. And that once again brings us back to: how much can you trust in what Q says his agenda is?
1 Sanbob555 2018-08-02
If you can't see that it's psy-op- you need to look closer. The question is: What are the intentions?
1 ElectricVeritas 2018-08-02
There’s a deep state, Trump is just aligned with one faction of it.
1 ichoosejif 2018-08-02
Verify?
1 ajutar 2018-08-02
Despite Israel committing war crimes in Gaza, Trump (or anyone at world stage) refuses to say anything about it.
1 jdh7190 2018-08-02
Hard to say, to me Trump's unwavering Israel support and hiring of Neocons/Zionists Bolton and Pompeo disproves any narrative about him fighting the deep state.
However, wanting to talk face to face with NK, Russia and now Iran are steps in the right direction.
1 knapster4444 2018-08-02
Earlier today there was a photo being taken of trump and a whole bunch of other people. Trump said: “this is the calm before the storm”.... and then played it off by saying thank you and telling the media to leave. Will there be large scale military action used against other nations? Will another 9/11 like even happen? Will I meet the girl of my dreams? These are questions I want to know
1 Cercy_Leigh 2018-08-02
This didn’t happen earlier today. It was something he said over ten months ago. He probably just stuffed his face with Taco Bell and wanted everyone to know he’d be tweeting from the bathroom soon..
1 knapster4444 2018-08-02
I believe he said it again today. Q-anon members have been reported saying it too.
1 ehll_oh_ehll 2018-08-02
Source?
1 knapster4444 2018-08-02
https://youtu.be/79D2YXv5Me0
It’s at the end of the video. It was published October 5th, 2017...
How come I saw that last clip at the end on the news yesterday? That’s shady
1 ehll_oh_ehll 2018-08-02
That isnt a new one. Thats just the original calm before the storm.
1 BeerPressure615 2018-08-02
Find out next time on DRAGONBALL Z!
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1 AmishAtomicPhysicist 2018-08-02
The original Q possibly..but he was hacked and then moved to 8 change after his last 4chance post said he was done and comprised,no more comms.
So some randoms start posting as him on 8 chan and they all just so happen to be the board owners/moderators and started up youtube channels right at the exact same time. They are all swimming in money now too...do the math..
1 knapster4444 2018-08-02
Very interesting take. Sounds like you’ve done some research. Thanks for sharing
1 whacko_jacko 2018-08-02
Keep in mind 8chan board owner is former Military Intelligence vet. I think this is relevant to both the legit and non-legit theories about Q.
1 Afrobean 2018-08-02
Wikileaks says that Q anon is likely a "pied piper" operation. That's basically what the community here has been saying for months too. The people behind it are bad actors trying to get people to fall in line behind them, to capture "conspiracy theorists", have them waste time and effort investigating an ARG, and get them to blindly "follow the plan". Or in other words, take people who are naturally political opponents to the bad things the permanent state wants and trick them into supporting all the same evil shit they might otherwise oppose.
1 ajutar 2018-08-02
Q is bullshit.
At best its a pysop designed to passify people interested in researching the deep state but new enough that they are easily gulled into believing someone close to Trump is posting cryptic messages on a fucking image board. At worse, its to rile up these same people and eventually it'll be used by the MSM to demonize them, thereby further dividing this country.
Hint: You don't need Q. Do your own research and you'll far surpass whatever Q has leaked.
1 nexusnine 2018-08-02
Found the grown-up right here!
1 Sanbob555 2018-08-02
It's not a cult until somebody starts screwing my wife !
DM me for details.
1 CULTURAL_MARXISM_SUX 2018-08-02
/r/greatawakening
1 bgny 2018-08-02
It doesn’t really matter. His influence is huge and important especially for waking people up. R/greatawakening
1 Sanbob555 2018-08-02
Is this real?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
If yes then you see why a parallel narrative would need to be set up. Draw your own concl.
1 Sanbob555 2018-08-02
Oh and yes it hallmarks a psy-op. But.....Motive?
1 RMFN 2018-08-02
Q predictions have all been right.
1 Odium-Blessed 2018-08-02
I'll just leave this here.
1 Quexana 2018-08-02
I don't think so, but writing that means I'm a part of the deep state conspiracy to shut down "free thinkers" and actually lends credibility to Q's posts. So ... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1 UncleSnake3301 2018-08-02
Its definitely a "real thing" as in its actually happening, someone is posting things under the name "Q". As for its legitimacy, that is up to you to discover yourself. Read the drops, (qmap.pub), peruse r/greatawakening, read some other non-MSM stories about it. Make up your own mind. Something is up, thats for sure.
1 SgtBrutalisk 2018-08-02
There is one line in one post by Q that won me over:
Nobody who wishes you harm reminds you to be vigilant.
1 lol-community 2018-08-02
So a false lead meant to take you down the wrong path with one 2 word lone won you over? Guess sheeple exist even in the "woke" and "redpilled" masses huh?
1 SgtBrutalisk 2018-08-02
It's a rarity that an outlet with any sizable audience shows they care. WaPo, NYT, CNN, they have infinitely deep coffers but constantly spread self-serving lies and half-truths. Alex Jones never showed any signs of care for his audience, it's all about shilling his bone broths and supplements. Whoever Q is, whatever his agenda, he has already shown more care for his audience than all those four combined in their entire existence. Go on, mock me, you half-baked cynic.
1 PtonFm1 2018-08-02
It's fake. Why else would they ban people from their subreddit for being dismissive of the whole idea?
Because you're 'over the target.'
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-08-02
I think both real and fake. Real, as in genuinely on Team Trump, against the neoliberals. But fake in that Trump is still controlled, not allowed to fight the greater powers -- Israel, military/medical industry, etc
1 rlbond86 2018-08-02
Totally made up. If there was a "deep state" and "pedo ring" they would have found and killed Q by now if this was real.
1 logicordie 2018-08-02
Of course it is fake bullshit. Now that it has become a popular following for casuals, like joking about big foot and flat Earth, it is starting to become a powerful brand/grassroots group. They saw how powerful a brand like Pepe could be and are sure to co-opt, infiltrate, slander, and destroy any brand that might be positive for their political rivals, just like poor Pepe.
1 falsescorpion 2018-08-02
When someone tells you that they are going to tell you a mixture of truth and lies, but never tells you which is which, I just don't think they are worth bothering with.
And since there isn't actually any point to Q's ramblings anyway, I wonder why anyone gives him the time of day. I mean, I'm sure it's addictively interesting trying to solve his stupid clues on a daily basis. That's why newspapers print crosswords.
But the thing about crosswords is that there is no greater purpose than the satisfaction of solving a puzzle. Tomorrow, you'll be presented with a new puzzle. And so on, forever. Pardon me if I don't sound enthusiastic about that.
So yeah, the minute Q says something that's both accurate and important, I'll pay attention. But my money is on him never saying anything of either.
1 davidapstein 2018-08-02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVSvtNH_tU0&t=1s
What is Qanon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR_xA1d4uxA&t=2s
Qanon Community Responds to Media Disinformation Campaign
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These two videos my help you
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1 Droplinebacker 2018-08-02
Go check it out for yourself, and then come back and report to everyone else instead. You seem objective enough.
1 NomarGarciaVega 2018-08-02
This was deleted for some reason https://www.qproofs.com
r/qproofs
Just a couple of resources to Check out and decide for yourself! :) /U/lovethesnowfall
1 knapster4444 2018-08-02
https://youtu.be/79D2YXv5Me0
It’s at the end of the video. It was published October 5th, 2017...
How come I saw that last clip at the end on the news yesterday? That’s shady