Modern day book burning

If they dont have it backed up they are fucking Dump

All of that information, all of that (now) history, gone. Thousands upon thousands of sites and articles that used their videos as references now have no references (especially when you consider that no one is going to go back to a 2012 article and update it with a direct link to whatever platform they now switch to).

No, the links are just dead - it actually happens quite frequently. Links get changed, websites go dead due to licensing issues or failure to pay for domain use, etc.

Nothing is ever actually erased from the internet - besides, I'm sure AJ has digital copies of all of his work. He'll find a new platform to distribute and those who are interested in his content will have no issue finding it.

Agreed, but this is different. The links aren't just dead, the content has been removed. Sure you might still be able to find them on Vimeo, or IW's website, but not on YouTube.

The content has been removed from a platform. Not removed from existence. As I stated before, nothing is ever truly erased from the internet.

My point was, all of those websites that linked to his videos, you no longer will be able to even see what the name of the video was, or be able to easily find it elsewhere on YouTube. That's a problem for all of those articles and websites from the past.

You literally just described a large majority of conspiracy-related or alternative history websites. Almost all of them are rarely updated, especially in regards to references or sources - a video can be taken down for a number of reasons on YouTube which renders the link in the original article inactive. It's not a crisis - in fact, it's a regular part of research on the internet. Again - nothing is truly ever erased from the internet.

It's not about him still having digital copies of everything, it's the indexing and sourcing that has been lost.

Three platforms have removed his content - that doesn't suddenly erase everything AJ has done. You yourself named two platforms that still host his content. All of this makes finding his work more difficult, yes, but not impossible.

You don't see how significant that is? Before, sure, one or two videos here and there wouldn't work, that's par for the course for any conspiracy theorist. Now, it's ALL OF THEM. That's a much bigger issue.

Give him time - he'll find a new platform to preach his beliefs.

Thousands upon thousands of sites and articles that used their videos as references now have no references

"References"

I think AJ is a ridiculous charlatan entertainer that does the conspiracy culture more harm than good. But his removal from these services is a terrifying precedent.

Otoh, I think it is fantastic. This will push people to other decentralized and uncompromised platforms.

Elsewhere in this thread it occured to me you could make the argument that social media is "the press" now, where the users are the publishers, and the hosting companies are an analog of the paper it is printed on. In this way, we could protect ourselves under existing laws and negate the agenda of all these malignant interests.

I'm also of two minds about it. I'm my view, AJ and InfoWars is a government-sponsored psyop to make the public believe that conspiracies are far right wing nonsense. Between AJ's tires to the CIA and Strafor, his antics, and his unwillingness to discuss certain topics, I'd wager he's a gatekeeper and limited hangout to keep us away from deeper truths. So in that regard, I welcome the expulsion of this disinfo.

On the other hand, it sets a precedent for banning other political speech and channels. Very concerning.

Hi , I am Alex jones , thank you for having such an active imagination . I like how there are no facts or evidence to support your claim . Mk ultra is pretty interesting , there are facts for that . Not really to many people requesting FOI for fat overly reddened Charleten right wing talk show hosts who are conducting psy ops to see how fucking stupid Americans are . Although you could say duping dumb Americans like jones would be the equivalent of shooting dead fish in a barrel .

I have noticed an issue with two narratives that don't really line up well. "Alex Jones is CIA and so is Twitter and Facebook." You normally only hear one of these at a time. I was curious if somebody who believes both of these could explain this.

If Alex Jones is CIA, and if these social media companies are also CIA, why would the CIA ban the CIA from spreading disinformation? It seems to me that at least one of these are not affiliated with CIA.

You could say "Streisand effect" I guess. Maybe the CIA wants to enlarge Jones' audience, but then I have to ask why the CIA would make a lot of people lose confidence in Twitter and other platforms. Are they deliberately trying to make you believe that these platforms that they own are bad? That doesn't make sense either.

Who knows? Sinking one operation could save another for some reason.

You have an honest question that deserves a thoughtful answer. Here's my take.

AJ himself is some kind of agent of an intelligence service or intra-agency (possibly involving other countries) black op. It's not like the head of the CIA necessarily even knows the whole arrangement. Perhaps with the supplements (and some help from the agencies and their assets) it's mostly self-funded with ads and supplements. Lots of unknowns, but the point is that it's not like a normal intelligence operation or even a typical mockingbird arrangement.

The social media and tech companies have some funding from the CIA via In-Q-Tel and possibly indirectly via other funds/funders. They then get positions on the board, help staff key roles, and ensure the execs adhere to certain rules. Most of the time, they operate like normal companies and no one at the CIA is controlling their direction. However, when certain critical issues come up, they have assets in place to ensure they get their way.

Kind of convoluted. Just remember that above all else, the CIA always maintains plausible deniability. They have networks and agencies that allow them to assert indirect control. It's quite impressive really, albeit disturbing. Hope this explanation helps.

Alex Jones has tried to expose the deep state and the Government involvement in 9/11 many times and has invited Steve Peicezenik to appear on his show many times and do the same, so no, there is no way Alex Jones is working for any Government agency.

terrifying precedent.

Still trying to understand what the precedent people are saying is.

That private companies can silence those with violent rhetoric?

The hosts are protected so long as they don’t alter or change said rhetoric. This selective enforcement may actually open them up to more lawsuits and potentially lose those protections. This comment should be taken with a grain of salt.

Tim Pool complained about a similar thing last week in ninja edits. His example involved the BBC editing an article after the fact without leaving any notes that it was edited. AS a result it made it look as if Pool was editorializing his post about the article when in fact he was quoting it.

listening to someone else tell you what they said

This is most media these days.

Even the talking head format of MSM sets up the context of whatever talking head they quote, and most of these people are reading the findings of something else.

People parrot whatever personality they have developed the habit of listening to because actually forming their own opinions would require effort, reading comprehension, and critical thought. Most of us probably aren't even aware of where these primary sources are available.

Which really answers the question of why so many people on this sub are upset up joneses removal. Here was a guy who could spin the bullshit so good he could convince people world war 3 was about to start . That is the name of his game he cosplaya as a fed up action hero who is poised to save the awoken ones from the evils of society and government. Most people are framing this thing as despite how you feel about jones his media purge is odd , coincidental what have you . These butt hurt losers are upset at the fact that a once reliable stream of spin and bullshit is gone , now they have to face reality. There Qanon is the political equivalent of eating tide pods, Alex jones is an actor and trump my boy is so embroiled in actual conspiracies his administration is fucked. Too bad this sub was hijacked but Trump supporters , are you guys still winning ?

Trump supporters? Where?

All the comments sections get wiped out as well.

Yes, that started a couple years ago.

This has been a slow, steady, strategic series of censorship moves.

SPOOKY

There will be a way to reupload those videos soon. You don't spend a million on production but save a dollar of hard drive space.

Doesn't matter. The comments are gone. That's a lot of evidence of collusion, from nations all over the world, memory holed.

Yes it does. People can watch stuff that they wouldn't see otherwise?

Half the comments were just trolls saying nonsense

I'm considering all YouTube content temporary. If you find something good, mirror it to BitChute and dTube. Only you can prevent memory holes.

Kind of weird how he is censored after Kappy was on the show. Getting too close to home for some of the higher ups?

listening to someone else tell you what they said

Alex Jones hears it from someone else on the internet and just runs with a story though? You seriously can't believe even half the shit that's dribbled out of that fat greasy mouth.

Fucking liberals.

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He should just upload his library to his website or some other free platform. He's gotta have all his stuff archived on his end.

Not that big of a fan but he had some good montages and vids discussing issues.

Agreed, but this is different. The links aren't just dead, the content has been removed. Sure you might still be able to find them on Vimeo, or IW's website, but not on YouTube.

The content has been removed from a platform. Not removed from existence. As I stated before, nothing is ever truly erased from the internet.

My point was, all of those websites that linked to his videos, you no longer will be able to even see what the name of the video was, or be able to easily find it elsewhere on YouTube. That's a problem for all of those articles and websites from the past.

You literally just described a large majority of conspiracy-related or alternative history websites. Almost all of them are rarely updated, especially in regards to references or sources - a video can be taken down for a number of reasons on YouTube which renders the link in the original article inactive. It's not a crisis - in fact, it's a regular part of research on the internet. Again - nothing is truly ever erased from the internet.

It's not about him still having digital copies of everything, it's the indexing and sourcing that has been lost.

Three platforms have removed his content - that doesn't suddenly erase everything AJ has done. You yourself named two platforms that still host his content. All of this makes finding his work more difficult, yes, but not impossible.

You don't see how significant that is? Before, sure, one or two videos here and there wouldn't work, that's par for the course for any conspiracy theorist. Now, it's ALL OF THEM. That's a much bigger issue.

Give him time - he'll find a new platform to preach his beliefs.