A Scary Thought About Yellowstone
1 2018-08-12 by oct29th1929
The Yellowstone supervolcano has been in the zeitgeist for about a month or two now. Joe Rogan has talked about it. There has been quite some earthquake activity swirling around. We should have nothing to worry about though. The scientists say that even though that the volcano is overdue, it probably won't erupt in our lifetime. Even if it where to erupt, we should have up to two months of advanced warning to evacuate everyone in the "kill zone".
But instead of warning everyone two months in advance. What if the scientists......doesn't? What if the government gives no warning of the eruption, and just deals with the aftermath after it blows? Here are two scenarios.
Scenario #1: The US gives a formal warning that Yellowstone will erupt in approximately two months. Thus, starting a logistical nightmare of evacuating 3.3 million people from the states of Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho. That is not including all the other millions outside the kill zone. We're talking about one the biggest mass migrations in recorded history. Counties will close their borders to try and stop American Refugees. These countries will have there own problems with preparing than taking on refugees. Like the giant ash cloud that will engulf the globe and kill 90% of life in the coming years.
Scenario #2: Yellowstone seismographs gets increasing activity. Instead of releasing this info to the public. They put up fake graphs to not cause panic. When the volcano erupts, they won't have to deal with people in the kill zone. Outside countries won't have enough reaction time to close borders, thus more places for refugees. It may seem very cynical to think this, but in the government's eyes, this could be a legit plan. Even with the higher death toll. It will be easier to evacuate the smaller batch of people, especially when more countries take in refugees.
TLDR: The government will not warn the people of the eruption, because it will logistically easier to handle the smaller size of survivors.
76 comments
1 ChrispinMcLovin 2018-08-12
That's scary and quite plausible really.
1 tiberius_regulus 2018-08-12
Does anyone else kind of want it to erupt?
1 SpenB 2018-08-12
This is an English speaking sub and most of us are probably in north America, so, no.
1 tiberius_regulus 2018-08-12
I'm from North America too.
1 WhatInTarnationing 2018-08-12
Why would you want it to erupt? People all around the world would die.
1 KillroyWazHere 2018-08-12
You would get the rest of your life off work tho... /S
1 tiberius_regulus 2018-08-12
I think we need a major reset tbh.
1 WhatInTarnationing 2018-08-12
If civilization collapses, it isn't coming back. There are many ways to change up civilization without wiping it out first.
1 tiberius_regulus 2018-08-12
The end of one Age and the birth of another. It's happened to humans before and it'll happen again.
1 WhatInTarnationing 2018-08-12
Not on this scale. If it collapses, other civilizations might appear sure, but it'll never be like how it is today. we have used up far too many resources.
1 tiberius_regulus 2018-08-12
Maybe that's a good thing?
Well, we're simply going to have to agree to disagree. I don't believe in the scarcity theory of natural resources.
1 WhatInTarnationing 2018-08-12
I disagree. We still have a chance to learn and make things better. Hell, some things are already getting better. If we fail, we will die on this rock.
1 tiberius_regulus 2018-08-12
I didn't say I wanted it to 100% happen. It was just morbid thought of maybe it wouldn't be so bad if it did. Anyways, good little chat!
1 Eyedeafan88 2018-08-12
Uhh what?
1 tiberius_regulus 2018-08-12
Which part?
1 a_dignified_username 2018-08-12
......what?
1 HrschG 2018-08-12
You can't make that shit up
1 thankful_4_tomorrow 2018-08-12
What does "in the zeitgeist" mean?
1 desepticon 2018-08-12
Its german. Literally, it means "time ghost". Its more accurately translated as "spirit of the age."
1 rocketcrotch 2018-08-12
Individual scientists would likely sound the alarm -- the data is hard to contain from independent researchers and it's not compartmentalized -- there isn't a ton of independent pieces that need to be put together in order to see the seismic warning signs. I think it would be leaked prior to the event if your hypothesis is correct
Interesting thoughts! Thanks for the post!
1 omenofdread 2018-08-12
they'd just be dismissed as "conspiracy theorists".
1 my_friend_mmpeter 2018-08-12
"Alt right trolls from the conspiracy subreddit have photoshopped and fabricated data to show millions will soon die. How far are they willing to go???"
1 Anarchist16 2018-08-12
Actually, that's kind of true.
1 IMA_Catholic 2018-08-12
Not really because they will release evidence and data that supports their statements.
1 labledcrazy 2018-08-12
there is no evidence and data that supports conspiracies?
1 IMA_Catholic 2018-08-12
For some there may be but it is my experience that a lot of conspiracy people aren't very big on evidence and are more into the feels.
Note most isn't all. I am also impacted by all the flat Earth / space deniers I talk with which DOES impact my view of things. And, like everything else, I could be wrong.
1 labledcrazy 2018-08-12
for many there is....
why are you impacted by words? And didn't your master just recognize space within the past 10 years?
you want evidence? just search this sub for "space hoax compilation"
why are all the astronots freemasons, why do they need to be in secret societys?
whattya think about all the occult symbolism and connections behind nasa?
how bout the serpents tounge on the logo?
whatta ya think about werner van braums headstone having that psalms verse on it?
jesuits are heavily involved with nasa, other space corps and the rest of space, and they are masters of deceit
I dont think you're actually interested in conspiracys though, so why else are you here?
1 mem_malthus 2018-08-12
Wernher von Braun
He was german, not from the Netherlands...
1 IMA_Catholic 2018-08-12
They aren't.
1 labledcrazy 2018-08-12
good chat.
1 IMA_Catholic 2018-08-12
Thanks!
1 labledcrazy 2018-08-12
http://freemasoninformation.com/masonic-education/famous/masonic-astronauts/
1 IMA_Catholic 2018-08-12
All != some.
1 labledcrazy 2018-08-12
you still trust sinners.... why?
1 labledcrazy 2018-08-12
why astronauts gotta be sworn to secrecy?????
why politicians, teachers, cops, judges, etc all gotta be sworn to secrecy????
1 IMA_Catholic 2018-08-12
Provide links to where I have done so.
1 labledcrazy 2018-08-12
are you the pope?
1 labledcrazy 2018-08-12
The Catholic Church's current norm on Masonic associations is the 1983 CDF Declaration on Masonic associations.[89][p] The 1983 CDF declaration states that Catholics "who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.
and yet you believe these sinners took you to the moon?
1 metalfingerzzz 2018-08-12
Yes because the average person understands this data enough to totally uproot during the beginning of the school year.
1 n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3 2018-08-12
Maybe that is what they have been trying to do for the last few months
1 bananapeel 2018-08-12
Similarly, seismographs are not compartmentalized. That's one of the ways we know if/when/where a nuke has been set off, anywhere on the planet. You can't just put up a fake seismograph. The seismometers that are neighbors would have similar results. There are a LOT of those machines - several within a few miles of me.
1 chardreg 2018-08-12
That's racist.
1 rustttyyy 2018-08-12
How?
1 Type0x 2018-08-12
Well let's be real it would cost the government significantly less money to just scrape up the dead bodies after the fact as opposed to evacuate a bunch of middle class nobodies. They don't give a fuck about us
1 a1s2d3f4g5t 2018-08-12
Well, even cheaper than that really. The bodies would all be perfect little Pompeii cavities within 20 feet of pumice.
If Yellow Stone goes, it is really nieve to think things will be ok anywhere else but the most southeastern tip of FL. For whatever reason, we always are left out of the "end of the world" cloud. Just us and Bimini, which, who knows, may sit on top of what was once Atlantis?
There is the initial blast, then there is the hell that its ash cloud causes once it enters the up atmosphere.
1 nisaaru 2018-08-12
You'll just get flushed away by tsunamis and hurricanes which follow:-)
1 DeezNuts1 2018-08-12
The economy would tank. The ramifications of the volcano erupting are global.
1 jt2424 2018-08-12
Knowing the psychopaths that run and are in our government they are probably TRYING to make it erupt so they can collapse the US dollar and the banking cartel can move their operation over to Russia/China and leave America to crumble.
1 Faulkey 2018-08-12
Keep watch of what the wildlife do. Once they start scattering, then that’s the sign to leave.
1 n1nj4_v5_p1r4t3 2018-08-12
Honestly by then its to late
1 Tone_clowns_on_it 2018-08-12
They’re reports of this already.
1 gbake24 2018-08-12
Provide a link
1 Tone_clowns_on_it 2018-08-12
I saw it on a YouTube video but I can’t find it again because it was viewed on my gaming console but I just typed “animals leaving Yellowstone” and a surprising amount of videos came up.
1 happysmash27 2018-08-12
Do you have links? This is worrying…
1 perfect_pickles 2018-08-12
all the critters can do is react to their local stimuli, whats is happening within a few hundred feet of themselves.
something noisy happens some miles away they might be nervous about any booms but they wont flee.
1 OkImJustSayin 2018-08-12
No. It has been made very clear, many times, that there is no 'advanced warning' possible for volcanoes. At best we know on the week or a few days before, not months. And even when we can 'predict' it by days, it isn't a definite - it could just be a rise in activity that then subsidizes - never actually blowing.
You are talking shit mate.
1 benjamindees 2018-08-12
They won't do that because it takes a while for debris to start falling and enough people would evacuate and survive and hunt down the government officials responsible.
1 parrhesiaJoe 2018-08-12
Scenario #3: Yellowstone eruptions are fear porn. Even the idea of supervolcanos is quite spurious. There is no direct evidence... only indirect circumstantial evidence. We date HUGE magma fields to roughly the same time period through carbon dating and electromagnetic alignment of ferrous atoms. ROUGHLY the same time period, as in ~1000 years. Maybe they happened on the same day, or maybe they happened over a century or more. Maybe the CIA thinks that anything that distracts us from their daily shenanigans is worthy of robust promotion, and so we get constant threads about supervolcanos.
1 Sendmyabar 2018-08-12
1 parrhesiaJoe 2018-08-12
Is that an intentional straw man, or are you just bad at thinking?
1 Sendmyabar 2018-08-12
Have a nice day bro.
1 parrhesiaJoe 2018-08-12
I'd rather have a thoughtful comment than a platitude... But I'll take a platitude, I guess.
I hope you have a wonderful day, too.
Sorry I implied that you are bad at thinking... I shouldn't judge you on one comment.
1 parrhesiaJoe 2018-08-12
There exists a mountain of anomalies in geology that suggest our understanding of what is beneath our feet is anything but certain. The deepest holes drilled by man constantly prove the theoretical models wrong in terms of heat, pressure, density etc.
That's all I'm saying... but you already know that.
I read you other posts. You seem sincere. Why would you snark me for questioning the official science about supervolcanos?
1 Sendmyabar 2018-08-12
Sorry man, I was having a bad morning and while usually I would argue it just seemed like a better thing to do to wish you well and get off the internet.
I can see that you look into the realities of geology as well, which is great! I guess my initial snarkiness came from my opposition to modern geology that is uniformitarian, I myself am a catastrophist I suppose. I believe that huge upheavals happen on our planet with some amount of regularity, so to me it isn't out of the question that something like the Yellowstone volcano could occur in this time. I assumed you held the view which a lot of people do, which is that nothing extraordinary happens because we've all lived and grown up in a period of relative stability (if you could call two world wars and a self inflicted threat of extinction on the horizon stable). But I do share your viewpoint that the established science on geology is doing very little besides guessing about what will happen next. It could be doom mongering by tptb, it could be legitimate scientists doing their best to predict models, or we could all be discussing premises that the inner circle of academia knows to be false. At this point in civilisation anything is possible. Including geological cataclysm :).
1 parrhesiaJoe 2018-08-12
Thanks for the response, man. I enjoyed reading it.
I was reading your comments on hollow Earth. The idea fascinates me, and while I don't "believe" in a hollow Earth, I can't really rule it out, because the gravity in the center is zero, and if you add centrifugal force, it's a real possibility. I haven't seen the entrance, but it doesn't mean it's not there. I can't really picture a HUGE hole at the poles, but you really don't need a big one. It could even be a manufactured entrance or something... anyways, fun to think about. It's probably where the crab people live.
How about the expanding Earth? Like Earth was smaller when dinos roamed, or at least gravity was less, which explains why physics doesn't predict that a brontosaurus could walk without its bones breaking.
As for catastrophism in general... I'm resistant, because I know how exciting they are to think about... even if they result in mass death =P. Niburu, comet collisions, global warming, supervolcanos... I'm a sucker for these things. They make GREAT movies, and they are fun to speculate about.
I TEND to think we'll destroy ourselves much more quickly than the myriad of natural forces which seem to want us dead =). We're just moving right along towards a dozen different self inflicted armageddons.
1 RareForevernk 2018-08-12
So 3.3 million people have to move. Where do they go? Where does their money go?
1 mem_malthus 2018-08-12
Do you think money would actually be of any concern, should that scenario really happen? Isn't it more likely global economy would collapse? The US would be mostly wasteland and the government cease to exist in most places but some small pockets.
The rest of the world wouldn't have a much better time once food becomes scarce. Money is worth nothing if you can't even buy food with it.
1 RocketSurgeon22 2018-08-12
Twitter to CNN would be too quiet and we would know something was up.
1 dankweeddoe 2018-08-12
Yellowstone's superintendent Dan Wenk who has been there for a long time is being pushed out.
1 raka_defocus 2018-08-12
As a lifelong 4th generation Montanan with a ton of family in WY, I can say that none of us would leave. Maybe recent transplants from more urban areas/states would....the rest of us will happily die here or fighting the feds that try to displace us.
1 Tha_Dude_Abidez 2018-08-12
These scenarios are entirely possible.
I worried about Yellowstone for awhile and I read something that kind of eased my mind.
Source
I think it being mostly solid would be a good thing? I'm not sure though, I may be wrong.
1 patrioticamerican1 2018-08-12
Remember the line from the movie 2012 "If the governments of the world knew the world was ending do you think they would tell the world" not gonna happen they would just let us die.
1 thankful_4_tomorrow 2018-08-12
They evacuated almost 7 milllion people for Hurricane Irma. (with only 1 week notice). They can easily do 3 million, with 2 month notice. Not a logistical nightmare.
1 nisaaru 2018-08-12
The food chain will break. Any evacuation just amplifies the problem for the surviving people which makes it pointless.
1 tiberius_regulus 2018-08-12
Maybe that's a good thing?
Well, we're simply going to have to agree to disagree. I don't believe in the scarcity theory of natural resources.