JFK assassination/Federal Reserve
1 2018-08-15 by slapstellas
Collectively, we all agree that JFK was killed by ranking members of the CIA with collusion from the mafia. Im sure many of you know about executive order 111100 but to my surprise I have never seen it discussed within this sub. Executive Order 111100 would of replaced federal reserve notes with silver certificates, delegated by the treasury. Abraham Lincoln also tried to produce an interest free currency called the Greenback). It's quite obvious why both were killed and its no coincidence that a century of war coincided with a century of central banking.
In 2017 alone, we the people, paid the Federal Reserve $458,542,287,311.80 in interest for letting them print our money. That's more than our Federal government spends on our schools, roads, and police force.
Unfortunately, most people outside of the conspiracy community are either completely oblivious or wilfully ignorant when confronted with this reality. They're always quick to say that the conspiracy is too big and would never work. Well, when we have a group of people that are all from the same secret society, that have infiltrated ranking positions within all intelligence agencies, MIC, MSM, political office, the Federal reserve, scientific community, pharmaceutical industry, major US corporations, and much more, you're damn right the conspiracy is too big.
I don't know about you guys but and tired of handing over 3-4 months of my paychecks to the Federal Government.
39 comments
1 Master_Order 2018-08-15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSziV-ajYz4&list=PLXeAdrQjugvHbhwbG6aQrZsbsIZnjllpb
1 justglassn 2018-08-15
Wrong, it was lee harvey Oswald
1 Hermeticism 2018-08-15
JFK to 9/11: Everything is a Rich Man's trick.
https://youtu.be/wfT5NTHU9HQ
Take a view and you will understand ALL the multi level conspiracies involved with the death of our fallen King.
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
It’s been awhile since I’ve watched that. Did they mention the executive orders?
1 XxTerrordactylxX 2018-08-15
Read, “The Creature from Jekyll Island” is you have interest on the Fed. One of the best/clearly written books on the subject.
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
I’ll give that a read if I can find a pdf. Also, look what some people are replying.. unreal.
1 Redditisrubbish 2018-08-15
If you can't find a free copy I'll mail you one
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
What’s the catch
1 Redditisrubbish 2018-08-15
Lol no catch. I believe in education on our monetary system I give books away and rebuy all the time
1 Czmp 2018-08-15
I do
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
You don't have to send me a book but thanks for the offer. If you have any good reading material in PDF feel free to add it to my collection of conspiracy related topics.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0iSdCTkzMTRZzljLVp5OXI5RXM
1 Redditisrubbish 2018-08-15
Author, Edward Griffith refutes the executive order conspiracy. Love the book, but he gives a different story on the executive order referenced in OP.
1 Marumari777 2018-08-15
Why the JFK worship? Ever think we might have been programmed to think that? Hard to imagine he might not have been such a saint, but consider this. Mainstream media has been front and center with making a Martyr fallen prince out of him ever since his "assassination. But we all know the MSM isn't to be trusted, so what gives?
1 underseavoid 2018-08-15
You don't even seem to have read and comprehended your own links
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
Yeah you’re right, no way the wiki article contains disinfo.
1 underseavoid 2018-08-15
I was mainly referring to the number you quoted from the Fed, which you don't seem to have understood. Idk why you would think you can comprehend banking conspiracies when you don't seem to understand the basics of banking itself.
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
So you’re saying that’s not how much interest we are paying on the debt?
1 underseavoid 2018-08-15
The Fed pays out interest on outstanding debt. "The people" don't write a check that someone at the Fed receives.
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
Federal government or federal reserve pays out interest on debt?
1 underseavoid 2018-08-15
Depends who holds the debt. Most of it is in the form of treasury bonds, which also fund the building of roads and schools, etc. The Fed also pays interest to banks for holding excess reserves. One thing most people don't understand about the banking industry is that most of the money they're seeing is redundant. They see a big number and assume someone got a check but the reality is banks can basically multiply money by loaning it out several times and then collecting payments over time. It isn't so much that the bank has more than all of those things cost, it's that everyone uses the same banking system. So a local municipality trying to build a new road takes out a loan, that cash is promptly transferred to the company that builds the road, which deposits it right back in the bank. So now the bank holds both the original cash and the debt from the town. And the cycle repeats.
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
The United States government does not print its own money. When the government needs funding they call the Federal Reserve (a non government agency) for a loan. The federal reserve loans this money to the government at an interest rate that we have to pay back with our tax dollars.
1 underseavoid 2018-08-15
See now you're the one being willfully ignorant. The federal government raises funds through bonds, which are issued by the treasury (a government agency). It can also take out loans, but it does so through banks or foreign lenders. The Fed lends funds to other banks at a set rate but does not itself make loans or help raise capital for the government.
Look, I'm not here to give you a macro 101 lesson. My only point was that it's stupid to criticize the behind the scenes operations of the Fed when you don't even understand what they do publicly. I'm not anti-conspiracy theory, if I was I wouldn't be in this sub. I'm just against morons acting like their particular conspiracy theory is the absolute truth when they don't even understand what they're talking about.
1 BubbhaDunkh 2018-08-15
IRS collects the debt. Social Security identifies who owes the debt. Strange those three non-government agencies exist.
1 underseavoid 2018-08-15
Except both of those ARE govenrment agencies. Not sure what's strange other than the fact that neither you nor OP have done your homework.
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
The federal government does not raise funds through bonds. The Federal Reserve monetizes the U.S. debt when it buys U.S. Treasury bills, bonds, and notes. When the Federal Reserve purchases these Treasurys, it doesn't have to print money to do so.
Incorrect. Look into the Federal Reserve Act The only place the US government gets loans and/or more money is from the federal reserve.
Perhaps you forgot the point of the revolutionary war which was to get away from the taxation of the banks. Two presidents tried to create government backed money and both were assassinated.
I have an accounting degree so I'd love to go more in depth about the US monetary system. Considering, you took an intro to economics class you seem to know a lot.
1 underseavoid 2018-08-15
I apologize if anything I said was inaccurate. Didn't bother to fact check my late night shitposting and didnt realize the caliber of moron i was dealing with. Good luck bringing down the government
1 Redditisrubbish 2018-08-15
When the gubmint need mo money they sell us treasury debt obligations. They do indeed holler at the discount window of the NY Fed, and request an additional certain number of bonds sold. This happens weekly I believe.
Tax payments collected by the IRS, best bank security in the world, and the Fed pays out shareholders. Yay!
1 sploogecaster69 2018-08-15
Ever since I heard he was considering getting rid of the fed I knew that's why he was killed
1 d3rr 2018-08-15
The federal reserve thing is a myth. The EO in question streghtens the federal reserve, and this wasn't the only pro-Fed action JFK had taken. Read it slowly.
The juice is in disbanding the CIA and Vietnam and demanding nuclear inspections in Israel.
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
In what context is the federal reserve thing a myth? Also the info in the wiki article has it backwards.
1 d3rr 2018-08-15
I'm calling it a myth because it's false and often repeated.
Yes, that's it, does wikipedia have it backwards or do you? Surely the text of the EO itself is not in dispute.
This spells it out nicely:
Also here are his prior pro-Fed moves:
Surely if JFK was anti-Fed, you could find a quote where he talks about them critically.
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
Please elaborate on this.
Look into EO 12608 JFK tried to issue debt-free currency that was backed by silver. He was against corruption in the US so why do you think he supported a non-government agency to print our money?
Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority: "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This means that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation based on the silver bullion physically held there. As a result, more than $4 billion in United States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. $10 and $20 United States Notes were never circulated but were being printed by the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated.
1 d3rr 2018-08-15
I'm not the biggest finance guy, but by the time EO 12608 was issued, Nixon had already effectively destroyed the gold standard. I don't see this EO as consequential but maybe Jim Marr or whoever has a good argument.
Yes, your EO quote is correct. JFK is giving the treasury department a power that only he had. Did he ever exercise this power, no. Does he have a 5 year history of helping to convert silver certificates into federal reserve currency, yes.
The silver notes you mention were nothing new. JFK did nothing new or special with silver aside from helping to phase them out in favor of federal reserve notes.
Look at this timeline of silver certificates: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_certificate_(United_States)
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1 Redditisrubbish 2018-08-15
Upvoted for truth. Thank you
1 tiberius_regulus 2018-08-15
Lincoln was a traitor to the Constitution and a tyrant therefore got what he deserved. JFK not so much. His big no-no was going against the Jesuits both via the mafia and the CIA not the FED. All of which are controlled by the Jesuits and SMOM. His executive order was a good step but it was by no means anti federal reserve. Could've paved the way but yeah.
1 Marumari777 2018-08-15
Collectively, no "we" don't. I think JFK wasn't killed. I think it was faked, or it was a double, but there's good evidence that the whole thing was a fraud. Miles Mathis has a great essay on it.
1 sixrwsbot 2018-08-15
I'm leaning towards dudes head getting splattered all over Jacky. It was on LIVE television. I get the whole 'don't trust everything you see on TV' and I fully agree, but I don't really think they could have faked that on live television in the 60's.
1 str8uphemi 2018-08-15
Let the Federal Reserve charge us all they want to print, it's worthless and ultimately backed by nothing but a huge Military force to inform you it is worth something if you question it.
1 slapstellas 2018-08-15
It’s been awhile since I’ve watched that. Did they mention the executive orders?
1 underseavoid 2018-08-15
I was mainly referring to the number you quoted from the Fed, which you don't seem to have understood. Idk why you would think you can comprehend banking conspiracies when you don't seem to understand the basics of banking itself.
1 underseavoid 2018-08-15
The Fed pays out interest on outstanding debt. "The people" don't write a check that someone at the Fed receives.
1 Marumari777 2018-08-15
Why the JFK worship? Ever think we might have been programmed to think that? Hard to imagine he might not have been such a saint, but consider this. Mainstream media has been front and center with making a Martyr fallen prince out of him ever since his "assassination. But we all know the MSM isn't to be trusted, so what gives?