It blows my mind how people that scream they are woke don’t know this!

You hit the nail on the head and I too am engaged in the matter. I really believe we're in a war now. It's not kinetic, hopefully never will be but every heartbeat is an opportunity to talk, improve, work and focus. Thanks for the greater motivation today.

In the same way that 20 years ago, you would've never imagined someone halfway around the world would have instant access to your past and present phone numbers, addresses, family members, etc., I expect that 20 years from now, ALL your electronic data-- bank data, school grades, purchase history, friends, coworkers, and everything you've ever posted anywhere, etc.-- will be packaged and accessible like a big ol' yellow pages of YOU.

If we all stopped using our phones and started paying for everything in cash they’d lose a lot of power

What we really need is a simple phone os that works as a mini linux without dedicated apps and shit, that can make calls, take photos and surf the web via firefox (or something).

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It boggles my mind that there's still no alternative to google's crap

There's LineageOS, you don't even have to install the basic google services.

I thought this was a myth

The hardware is still proprietary....and that's a problem. I know LineageOS is said to be open source, but I'm betting some of the hardware drivers are not. I may be wrong.

A completely open source phone is what we all need to protect our privacy. But, it's doubtful a 100% phone will ever make it to market in any meaningful way. There is currently a crowdfunded open source phone, but it's not available yet and the lowest donation to receive a phone when it's available is $599. Good luck.

You're always going to have that one person who just wanted to "check" something.

Hell, even converting to burners

I think muddy the water. Put wrong days, ages, city , race and likes. Every week another hobby. Spell it backwards for effect. ʍoɥ ʍouʞ noʎ ɟı uʍop ǝpısdn . If they want to collect information , lets give it them.

How? You'll still use their money and not using your phone will just incommunicate you cause you still need all their infrastructure to survive.

I know reddit likes to give karma without thought but this is far from a solution.

Because it would take an upperhand away from them basically sending TPTB into a dark age of information. Data = knowledge = power. And no we can use OUR infrastructure without big data and Facebook.

Your talking like Facebook controls electricity, food or taxes?

Facebook has power now cause data sells a lot, but you're putting the picture like if people abandoned Facebook the elite would go bananas and panic... no they won't.

You depend on the system for everything.

Apparently, others agree with me and I find your outlook extremely myopic.

You just used and ad populum to validate your arguments.

Learn to debate

There’s nothing to debate. If we paid for everything in cash and didn’t use our cell phones they wouldn’t be able to track our every fucking move anymore.

That's different from saying, "they would lose a lot of power".

It's just facebook in your mobile and they still control most of the money circulation. It would be terrible for the ad companies but no biggy for the system.

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Here's where you lost me--

We have to incentivize electronic demand destruction using 100% private carbon taxes and 100% public data.

I'm not sure what you mean by electronic demand destruction.... you want to destroy consumer demand for electronic products? Are you an eco-anarchist, like the Unibomber? You want us all to be farmers?

100% private carbon taxes...... I don't know how a tax can be private, but I can't get behind any new taxes, especially a "carbon" tax.

100% public data.... Um, I don't want my data public, either in the hands of a corporation, or in the hands of... whatever it is you're imagining.

My ex husband did this to me, I filed for divorce and he says stalked me. It was worse than stalking because he was in EVERYTHING. When I tried to get him out, my attorney would email me. He used Apples ping, as he worked for Apple, then Nike plus a side job for Facebook. Five years ago I was called CRAZY, a lunatic but now it’s on everyone. They do know too much, you talk in your home and then a commercial shows up on your phone. It really is horrible and I personally will never be the same after being a target of such malicious intent.

It's been shown that people at the NSA used their access to obtain information about girlfriends/wives and "love interests" (ie, random women they wanted to fuck), including private photos. You can be sure this kind of abuse is absolutely rampant at private and government organizations alike.

Stop using Facebook and Google. That's not all, but it's a good start.

Just imagine the chaos if everyone's google searches were made public...

Any sources?

Data is the new Bacon

What the old bacon?

funny how we keep a lot close to our chest, private from friends and family, but we'll tell these businesses more about ourselves than people have ever told their lovers in history.

People think the business doesn't care. I even know journalists who say they don't care if the CIA can read all their messages cos why would they care about their conversations with their friends or whatever. It's insane. Yeah it doesn't matter most of the time, until it does. Until there's a government and a society that go all crazy over something like people 'supporting Russia' or being against 'American values ' or something- and suddenly some sarcastic comment you made on Facebook ten years ago is the evidence that sends you to jail. It's already happening a bit with various things, old posts being dug up and taken out of context to smear people or even charge them with crimes!

Point taken, well written, scary times. Though I feel this post is a bit intellectual for this sub. It may fit in better at r/C_S_T imo

what's the point about him being a millennial? I may be having a bad treading comprehension day.

"...who use it to fuck you dry."

"...who use it to dry-fuck you into poverty." -FTFY

You were doing good until carbon taxes. Fuck that.

I've been thinking about how they take every bit of information from us. From what we do throughout our day, the music we like, friends we have, who we've dated, almost everything ! But what's it for? All these apps take in a lot of our personal lives, even websites like reddit and what not. I've always assumed they use it for something.

What the fuck does being a millennial have to do with anything. I swear this weird obsession and hatred of millennial is old. Most of the worlds problems were created by other age groups. What a lazy way to avoid responsibility from anything.

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What the old bacon?