r/conspiracy: Conspiracy to make Europe islamic

1 compromisedchristian 2018-08-28

The followers of Islam would appear to be slaves to the Imams whims - EXACTLY the situation the elites would like all around the world

1 SaxonWitch 2018-08-28

Absolutely. I feel very sorry for the women especially. And when they come to the UK, these poor girls might think wrongly that going to a free country will help them, when instead idiot rules and the left side with the oppressors and hail their rules instead of putting their foot down and make it mandatory to live by our rules.

As it is we only attract hardcore islamists, because we are so weak and they know that and abuse it to their own propagation. Women in strict islamist countries are waking up now and show us how much they hate to cover their heads, yet in Europe we force them to keep wearing it in the guise of 'respecting their religion'. Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.

1 compromisedchristian 2018-08-28

The U.K. has been pussified when it comes to Islamic terrorism since the late 90s... the elites here gave them safe haven in return for not attacking us... that worked out well didn’t it? There’s a great book on the subject called Londonistan by Melanie Phillips that’s well worth reading

1 Dougalishere 2018-08-28

What left are making rules in the UK? Please tell me. All the bullshit that has happend:

The tighter controls on what we can and can't say online

The complete breakdown of a decent and effective immigration service

The introduction of new hate speech laws

Have all been introduced by our Tory party... you know, the ones pretending to be Conservatives while actually being right wing authoritarian corporate loving scumbags.

And before you start blaming the EU for our borders, under our agreement with the EU we had complete control over our borders but our immigration service was stripped to the bone by the then home secretary Theresa May.

Who was it that is insisting backdoors be put into encryption and has tried to push a fucking licence through for watching porn? That's right the fucking Tory party.

Our country is going down the shitter but it's not because of "the left" it's because of the fucking corrupt scumbags we have on the front bench tearing apart our country through fear and bullshit while enriching themselves and their corporate masters.

These cunts have been in charge now for 8 years and before that we had New Labour which was basically Tory Lite. When are they going to start taking the blame for the shit that has gone on and is going on under their rule.

I know this is completly off-topic and I hold my hands up to that. But I am sick at these fuckers getting a pass for they have done and what they are continuing to do. We never had a left vs right in the UK when I was growing up in this manner we had a working class, middle class and the Bankers/lawyers etc. Back then you think this government could get away with the shit they are doing? Fuck no because the working class stuck together... Now with this bullshit left/right nonsense coming out of the US our working class is divided and as such as no power any more, leaving these dickheads in charge...Who benefits from our working class being divided and at each others throats? Not us thats for sure.

1 SaxonWitch 2018-08-28

The Tories are just as useless as the left. However the whole inviting all and sundry started with the sociopath Tony Blair. He was the 'inventor' of open borders and laying the path to a one world government. He was Labour, not Tory.

I say leftists because it is their followers that stand with their arms wide open and want to hug a refugee. You won't ever see anyone else do this.

It is lefties that want diversity at all costs and think the world is all unicorns and fairies. It doesn't matter who will be in charge, the end product for some reason is to let in more and more muslims and warm us up to islam. They all seem to want this. Something more is going on.

1 Dougalishere 2018-08-28

He was New Labour who were basicly Tory lite you can crow about how the war criminal Blair was not a Tory but nearly everything they did was perfectly in line with what the Tories did before them :/

All I hear is "But but Blair" Fuck Blair and Brown they were lying pieces of shit and Blair should of been locked up but come on man...When are the people that have been making policy for 8 fucking years going to be up for any blame? Never? Or will it allways be the "lefts" fault in your eyes.

I consider myself left and I don't think the world is a nice place at all. It is full of horrible people that do horrible things to each other. Maybe I could say something like "It is only the right that think every Muslim is a terrorist out to get them" But what is the fucking point, it means nothing to people that think that.

1 OB1_kenobi 2018-08-28

This one's gonna get downvotes but here goes anyways.

What's up with Europe might be part of a deliberate coordinated plan, or maybe not. either way, the real question isn't "who's behind it"... it should be "why is it happening?"

Here's my answer.

White people in both Europe and North and South America are not the same white people from hundreds of years ago.

Just take a look around at the average white people you see and ask yourself "How many of them could be a pioneer, how many of them would fight back against anyone who tried to push them around?"

Europeans from 500 years ago were living in a period of history where they were still actively resisting Islamic expansion from the Ottoman Empire in the east. And they'd just finished pushing the Muslim Moors out of Spain. They'd survived multiple episodes of the Black Death. They were still fighting wars with each other on a regular basis. The average person lived in relative poverty and most of them also lived under a brutally repressive religious authority (Guess who!)

Compare this with today.

We're living on the tail end of centuries of colonization. We're not the colonizers, we're their descendants. We haven't had any real competition for hundreds of years. We've had a whole century since the last real epidemics (Spanish Flu of 1918)

The last really big war ended nearly 75 years ago... a lifetime.

Today's white people are soft. Some tiny group of people have convinced we should feel sorry/guilty about who we are. We've adopted the poisonous insanity of political correctness because of mental and cultural softness (ie. decadence).

Only a decadent culture allows minorities to start calling the shots. Only a decadent culture invites foreigners to migrate into their territory in large numbers for years at a time.

So Europeans and the New World descendants have become soft and decadent. The human equivalent of Dodo birds. No natural predators for so long, they lost both their instincts and their ability to fly. Like Dodo birds, we just don't reproduce as fast as we used to either. Dodos only laid one egg at a time. Modern European birthrates are well below the replacement rate of 2.1 children per woman.

So you don't need to blame Islam or some deliberate plan to change Europe. The real reason these changes are happening is because we've become weak... and prefer to believe that weakness is actually strength (ie. multculturalism, diversity etc.)

When you get weak and believe lies instead of reality, competition will always show up and teach you a lesson.

This is the point where some people will wonder about what I've just said. And some other people (decadent and with minds poisoned by lies) will write me off as a hater. So I'll take this opportunity to point out that I haven't advocated any type of action whatsoever. No insults have been made either. But I have said a number of things that challenge established perceptions and narratives. So that's going to get some people all worked up and looking for any excuse to reject concepts that conflict with their own established views.

tldr; long term historical trends at work. We're either in, or approaching a phase of cultural decadence and social weakness. Not necessarily part of any plan. People naturally take advantage of weakness when they see it in others (at a group level as well as individuals)

1 SaxonWitch 2018-08-28

I agree and have to add that I always said that violence and barbarianism will always win against tolerance and mild mannerisms. It's a shame but it has happened over and over in history. A tolerant civilisation is at is a dying civilisation.

1 FlooferzMcPooferz 2018-08-28

This is true humanity

"Tribes and nations across the world and across history have cared for those injured, weaker than themselves, less fortunate.

It is only "human nature" to allow the weak to suffer if you also believe it is "human nature" to be completely selfish and isolationist in all respects. To hunt only for onesself, and to hoard their belongings like a dragon.

If you want to run off and live in the woods like a "predatory man" and die alone in the cold when you fail to succeed in hunting, or you're injured thus that you cannot hunt and feed yourself, I will still wish to feed you, to heal you, because humankind in its entirety ought to be brothers.

If you want to talk about family units, then speak of them - they help each other to survive. The same altruism extends to friends and friends of friends, and familiarity breeds fondness, which breeds a desire to protect and nurture. And thus, we have a tribal unit. Then tribes make alliances and help each other, and we have nations.

Human nature is to find other humans and protect each other, and provide for each other. To deny the human power of empathy and desire to protect is... well, frankly, ridiculous. We have artefacts and graves and remains of people throughout history showing that humans cared deeply for the "useless" members of their tribe - buried with honors, recorded with fondness, protected and supported even when they could not 'provide' for the tribe.

People help those around them, at the cost of themselves. Humans will throw themselves into floods and flames to help a stranger - often killing themselves in the process. Humans will refuse to leave the site of a cave in, refuse to rest in favor of helping to shift the rubble until everyone inside has been taken out.

Maybe the difference is that I believe humans are good, and at their cores DO want to be happy with their fellows, while you think they are inherently selfish and isolationist.

I believe we should provide safety and comfort to those without.

because THAT is human nature."

I do not what is going on in your life, that makes you fear people who look different than you, eat different foods, and live differently than you. I don't know what propaganda bullshit that brainwashed you, or if you were raised with such toxic beliefs. You said you remember East Germany, East Germany happened in part because of your ideology. Fearing the other, and not wanting to celebrate or learn from those who are different. Is that what you want? Because a dictatorship is exactly what you are describing you want. Kick out those who are different, rather than try learning from them. I love you

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