The deal with The Purge
1 2018-08-28 by I_eat_lead_chips
Not much of a conspiracy, but what is the deal with Hollywood pushing the whole "purge" idea on people? They've made 3 or 4 movies at this point and now a tv show, and it bugs me because I think making those types of movies shows a lack of social responsibility with all that goes on today regarding mass shootings. Making movies about killing people with no consequences is not a great idea.
40 comments
1 selaromcire 2018-08-28
I agree to an extent. It very well could be subliminal messaging and “getting us used to it” type of brainwashing. Equally, it could be assholes cashing in on what viewers want to see.
I never saw the purge movies but it pulls at the senseless violence and gore and blood that we as a people cant turn away from. “Give’em what they want so long as they pay for it” kind of thing.
1 HaveAKnifeDay 2018-08-28
I agree with the getting used to it part. I've noticed a theme of "people needing to die" in movies a bit lately.
I'm sure there's been ones before but 2012 was the first movie that made me think about it. I don't quite remember the plot but it had a "planet needs a reset" vibe to it which ended with the elite surviving on the ship.
this scene from kingsman secret service also got to me. global warming theories aside it had the idea of the masses dying while the elite survived. the second movie had a similar idea but with drug users dying.
up till about 0:36 this new Godzilla trailer has the same earth has a fever with us being the infection idea.
yes Hollywood could just be lazy and is reusing the same ideas but it's kinda weird that's the one they go with.
1 selaromcire 2018-08-28
theme-wise youre right. i remember having the same “theres too many people on earth” thoughts even as a child, so i doubt its a new thing or even a conspiracy, more like people realizing that the planets natural resources are depleting, combined with assholes bent on greed and power, yea i agree that this planet and society as a whole would benefit from another plague.
the georgia guidestones are a great example of this line of thinking.
1 sons_of_many_bitches 2018-08-28
Also ‘ready player one’ not only simulation theory but ‘the people’ up rising to free humanity from ‘the game’.
1 Landiesaw 2018-08-28
I have never seen this movie but here's why it's bad.
I've never played this video game but here's how it's making kids violent.
I've never listened to this music but here's how it's corrupting our youth.
Same old moral panic.
1 selaromcire 2018-08-28
Care to enlighten?
1 A-wild-comment 2018-08-28
Because it's one of the only new horror franchises. Saws done, paranormal activities done, for Christ sakes their making another Halloween. Strangers 2 had a chance to topple them but shot themselves in the foot when they killed the killers.
1 I_eat_lead_chips 2018-08-28
Yea I get that, but I mean now a tv show?
1 A-wild-comment 2018-08-28
I agree a show sounds dumb. 1 season is 1 night? But the first season of scream was great and I thought that was going to be a dud. Scream does have a better plot for a show though with the whole who dun it murder aspect.
1 wittor 2018-08-28
This is different, none of those movies play so hard with the idea that all people will be murderers and rapists by a government sanction.
1 A-wild-comment 2018-08-28
Your right we've entered the dark ages of horror.
1 ichoosejif 2018-08-28
Right.
1 Absurvatory 2018-08-28
Could it simply be, To remind us that without the law, without an industry of murder, we wouldnt be safe. Stop watching Hollywood mates, shit makes you wonky.
1 paulie_purr 2018-08-28
I guarantee that if Purge 1 hadn't made a bunch of money, nothing would have followed it up. Turns out there's plenty of Americans either horrified by a murderous fascist US dystopia or elated by one. Mostly we all just want to watch the show.
1 I_eat_lead_chips 2018-08-28
But like I said, in light of this most recent ball shooting, maybe pushing ideas like this isn't a great idea
1 wittor 2018-08-28
I believe they know that they can provide entertainment in this form to people and that the consumers will like this kind of product. They did not create the audience, they are exploring it.
1 wittor 2018-08-28
most of those people are uneducated and easily entertained by displays of violence, especially if they see it as justifiable. the movie shows to them a simple reality where they cam imagine thenselves raping and killing because a tv said those people could.
sometimes they come here to preach about.
1 CryptoMutant 2018-08-28
I personally believe it’s a massive psyop, I don’t have proof and I’m not trying to prove it, that’s just what I believe. They’re putting that concept in peoples minds. I’ve seen a lot of people use that term and concept, saying “we need a purge for this or that group.”
1 cerebral_scrubber 2018-08-28
They are super cheap to make and do very well at the box office. Not much of a conspiracy if you ask me.
1 ZeePirate 2018-08-28
How are they cheap compared to say a romcom? They have a fair amount of costumes and make-up, plenty of set work. And special effects for gore and stuff. It’s probably pretty expensive
1 kushweaver 2018-08-28
according to wikipurgia:
purge 1: 3 mil budget, 89 mil box office 2purge: 9-11, 112 purge 3: 10, 119 purge4: 13, 133
for comparison, two movies that seem like popular romcoms (overboard and crazy rich asians):
cra: 30 mil budget, 87 mil box offic overboard: 12, 91
movies are weird i guess @_@
1 ZeePirate 2018-08-28
Weird
1 I_eat_lead_chips 2018-08-28
Cashing in on a movie idea isnt a conspiracy, but continuing to use a plot that focuses on the government allowing people to kill other people just because is entirely inappropriate in the culture we have considering gun violence and the mass shootings all the time. Not saying that's a conspiracy either, but I don't like how they monopolize on such things
1 Vrylic 2018-08-28
I’ve had the same feeling with the huge zombie craze the last 10 years or whatever. They want us to think that without government we’d all be killing each other. We’d just be a bunch of lawless monkeys without them. If the shit hits the fan a lot of people would fall into this preprogrammed train of thought.
The latest Avengers movie was worse than the Purge imo. How many fucking ‘sacrifice the person you love’ stories do we need in one movie? The movie was one massive ritual. I used to love Hollywood. Like a lot of other people I had my blinders on and wouldn’t be able to see the truth. Ignorant to the programming and brainwashing that occurs on anything mainstream. I’m sure I’ll get downvoted to hell for talking shit about the Avengers. It’s cool. Love ya
1 lemme-explain 2018-08-28
There’s only two, right? Gamora and Vision? I can’t recall any others.
I was noticing more of the “Thanos threatens your friend to get something from you” scenes. He threatens Thor to get a gem from Loki, Nebula to get info from Gamora, and Iron Man to get a gem from Dr. Strange. And it works every time!
(Caveat: I loved that movie)
1 Vrylic 2018-08-28
Hmm. I thought there were three. My bad. Someone had to die before he could get each stone tho. With his biggest human sacrifice happening in front of two towers. Then of course the end when he sacrificed half the people in the world. I tried to enjoy it, but it felt like I was watching a ritual.
1 Cevar7 2018-08-28
In real life most people wouldn’t partake in the purge. Society would function normally, albeit people might stay cooped up in their houses afraid on the day of the purge. Only difference would be that serial killers and other such criminals would wait to do some, if not all of their crimes on that day and use the legal loophole so they’d stay free.
1 chaoslastorder 2018-08-28
no conspiracy here. the purge movies all make money. Hollywood likes money.
also the purge series appeals to a lot of people who would enjoy visiting gleeful, guilt-free violence and criminal acts upon their fellow human beings, as well as the people who want to warn against that very same gleeful, guilt-free violence. it gets paid both ways.
I don't want the purge movie series to succeed, but let's face it, basically everyone thinks everything would be better if people they dislike were fed into wood chippers these days. we are all terrible, sociopathic, selfish hypocrites, highly suspicious of absolutely everyone, and we are not interested in making peace with anybody, let alone our enemies.
1 Ls2323 2018-08-28
Try to find a non-violent family movie on Netflix (that is not a romantic comedy and not animated). Something you can watch while your toddler/small-kid is playing near the TV.
It is nearly impossible. Back in the 80s and early 90s (and before then obviously) there were plenty of such movies. There is graphic violence and scary shit in 95% of movies. Your toddler will be scarred for life from catching glimpses of scenes from those movies, this is on par with ElsaGate (maybe connected?).
Try also to find a kids movie (for < 5years old) which is not animated and which parents can watch too. IT DOESN'T EXIST.
1 ZionistKhazarsDid911 2018-08-28
He's right you know! earned urself a meme
1 Random2444466688 2018-08-28
"Try to find a non-violent family movie on Netflix (that is not a romantic comedy and not animated). Something you can watch while your toddler/small-kid is playing near the TV." •The Jungle Book (highly recommend) •Looney Tunes: Back in Action •The Sandlot •Queen of Katwe •E.T. •Batteries not included •Little Monsters •Air Bud •Dolphin Tale •Spy kids •Nanny McPhee •Scooby-Doo 2 •Daddy Day Care •Little Rascals Save the Day And PLENTY more...
"Try also to find a kids movie (for < 5years old) which is not animated and which parents can watch too."
If your kid is less than 5 years old they'd probably love watching animated movies, but anyway... there's: •THE JUNGLE BOOK •Benji •Growing up wild •The Great Gilly Hopkins •Enchanted •Moonrise Kingdom •Sing Street •Paddington •St. Vincent •The Absent Minded Professor •Turner & Hooch •Pete's Dragon
"IT DOESN'T EXIST." It does. You're just not looking hard enough.
1 Ls2323 2018-08-28
The Jungle book: Not available in my country
Looney Tunes: Partly animated...
The Sandlot: Not available in my country
Queen of Katwe: 7+ but yeah maybe
ET: 13+, Seen it a million times
Batteries not Included: Not available in my country
Little Monsters: Not available in my country
Air Buddies: 7+ possibly
Dolphin Tale: Not available in my country
Spy Kids: 7+ not suitable for toddler imo
Nanny McPhee: 7+ looks scary for a toddler
Scooby-doo: 7+ full of ghosts, too scary for toddler
Daddy Daycare: Not available in my country
Little Rascals Save The Day: Not available in my country
The Little Rascals: Great! suitable for All, it's on the list
Benji: 7+ maybe
Growing up Wild: Not available in my country
The Great Gilly Hopkins: Not available in my country
Enchanted: Not available in my country
Moonrise Kingdom: Not available in my country
Sing Street: Not available in my country
Paddington: Not available in my country
St. Vincent: Not available in my country
The Absent Minded Professor: Not available in my country
Turner & Hooch: Not available in my country
Pete's Dragon: Not available in my country
Ok so out of all that we got 1 movie on the list!
6 movies are 7+, some can maybe be watched with toddler present, some are too scary.
ONE MOVIE! ONE GODDAM MOVIE SUITABLE FOR A TODDLER!
POSSIBLY 7 MOVIES MAX.
Would you subscribe to a monthly service that only has 7 movies available?? No? Didn't think so.
Thanks for the list but now I have you under suspicion for working for Netlfix... :D :D
1 Random2444466688 2018-08-28
Lol seems like you're just being wayyy too picky about movies. Scooby-Doo and Nanny Mcfee are too scary? Seriously? Plus, your kid is less than 5 years old! They're not going to remember anything about the movie lol. I am sorry a lot of these aren't available in your country, but maybe instead of complaining about Netflix you could google what movies are available and go from there?
And no, I don't work for Netflix, but I wish I did. I hear they take really good care of their employees :D
1 Ls2323 2018-08-28
You are so wrong about this. Most adult neurosis is because of what happened in early childhood. I feel sorry for your kids if you have or will ever have any.
Scooby-doo (as a cartoon and therefore also likely as a movie) is full of ghosts and monsters, this is scary to a small kid.
I have Netflix, I have HBO, I have about 30 TV channels over the air I have about 100 channels from cable. Rarely, if ever, do I find a movie that I don't mind my toddler watching.
Why are you even contesting this? Of the list you gave, 1 is available to me that can be watched by a toddler. ONE!
1 Afrobean 2018-08-28
Spoilers, but if you follow the plot, it's actually about the government secretly terrorizing the public to exterminate poor people. It's eventually revealed that the Purge is based on a psy-op, and that people don't actually fall into chaotic violence when the government stops enforcing laws unless they're pushed to. It's almost anarchist propaganda that says "the government is conspiring to exterminate poor people". I wouldn't say that the films actually put forward the idea that it's OK to kill people with no consequences or something.
You're right that our violent culture is fucked, but I would say that the political messages in the films are appropriate and good despite the graphic violence. The thing is, our culture is already drowning in horrific violence, and I can't imagine how a story like the ones this series goes into could be told well without also including some graphic violence.
1 UrFavSoundTech 2018-08-28
The 100 on cw has some of the same things. The "government" is making these monsters to kill outsiders, and to make a threat for the people in the mountains.
1 greenwork420 2018-08-28
Desensitizing the public
1 Cobra-Serpentress 2018-08-28
It is just bread and Circuses. It is socially Bankrupt, but it is entertainment.
1 ZionistKhazarsDid911 2018-08-28
He's right you know! earned urself a meme
1 Random2444466688 2018-08-28
"Try to find a non-violent family movie on Netflix (that is not a romantic comedy and not animated). Something you can watch while your toddler/small-kid is playing near the TV." •The Jungle Book (highly recommend) •Looney Tunes: Back in Action •The Sandlot •Queen of Katwe •E.T. •Batteries not included •Little Monsters •Air Bud •Dolphin Tale •Spy kids •Nanny McPhee •Scooby-Doo 2 •Daddy Day Care •Little Rascals Save the Day And PLENTY more...
"Try also to find a kids movie (for < 5years old) which is not animated and which parents can watch too."
If your kid is less than 5 years old they'd probably love watching animated movies, but anyway... there's: •THE JUNGLE BOOK •Benji •Growing up wild •The Great Gilly Hopkins •Enchanted •Moonrise Kingdom •Sing Street •Paddington •St. Vincent •The Absent Minded Professor •Turner & Hooch •Pete's Dragon
"IT DOESN'T EXIST." It does. You're just not looking hard enough.
1 Ls2323 2018-08-28
The Jungle book: Not available in my country
Looney Tunes: Partly animated...
The Sandlot: Not available in my country
Queen of Katwe: 7+ but yeah maybe
ET: 13+, Seen it a million times
Batteries not Included: Not available in my country
Little Monsters: Not available in my country
Air Buddies: 7+ possibly
Dolphin Tale: Not available in my country
Spy Kids: 7+ not suitable for toddler imo
Nanny McPhee: 7+ looks scary for a toddler
Scooby-doo: 7+ full of ghosts, too scary for toddler
Daddy Daycare: Not available in my country
Little Rascals Save The Day: Not available in my country
The Little Rascals: Great! suitable for All, it's on the list
Benji: 7+ maybe
Growing up Wild: Not available in my country
The Great Gilly Hopkins: Not available in my country
Enchanted: Not available in my country
Moonrise Kingdom: Not available in my country
Sing Street: Not available in my country
Paddington: Not available in my country
St. Vincent: Not available in my country
The Absent Minded Professor: Not available in my country
Turner & Hooch: Not available in my country
Pete's Dragon: Not available in my country
Ok so out of all that we got 1 movie on the list!
6 movies are 7+, some can maybe be watched with toddler present, some are too scary.
ONE MOVIE! ONE GODDAM MOVIE SUITABLE FOR A TODDLER!
POSSIBLY 7 MOVIES MAX.
Would you subscribe to a monthly service that only has 7 movies available?? No? Didn't think so.
Thanks for the list but now I have you under suspicion for working for Netlfix... :D :D