Interesting question! Here's what I found The reason for the difference is an atmospheric phenomena known as the jet stream. The jet stream is a very high altitude wind which always blows from the West to the East across the Atlantic. The planes moving at a constant air speed thus go faster in the West-East direction when they are moving with the wind than in the opposite direction.

Jet Stream don't go West always. Generall flows West to East. Usually dips in the US near me. Winters its more South, Summers more North.

Just look up, airplanes fly west.

I fly west all the time from the UK to the Caribbean

Hate to say it as will get shot down in flames, but the flat earth model would answer your question. I am not saying its right but it explains an awful lot when it comes to flights. By the way I have been in the travel trade since 88 and there are an awful lot of flights that exist in theory but you cant actually book them. If you do manage to book one it will then be re-scheduled via an intermediate point.

An example would be Santiago to Johannesburg. Would be routed via Europe or Middle East even though it may show as a direct flight. It isnt

The flat earth model

Can you provide a link to the flat earth model? I am very interested how it handles the observed phenomenon of Doppler shifts and distance in GPS signals. I would like to understand how transmitters moving at 2+ km/s second 300+ km above us work on that model.

Yes. Its called Google

Yes. Its called Google

Sorry but Google doesn't have a working flat Earth model nor does it say how GPS works on a flat Earth. Would you like to try again?

Would you like to try typing that into Google?

I have researched this topic more than you have most likely so stop pretending that a flat Earth model that explains reality exist.

If you think I am wrong then please link to the model in question.

How is there a magical force that makes me go slower going one direction instead of another?

It is called “wind”.

Sir, this is a Wendy’s restaurant.

what? who told you "if the president has an emergency situation that arises in Tokyo and he is currently in CA, he can’t take Air Force One and fly directly there in a matter of hours?" he definitely can. he has a private large jet to do just that. pass that shit and lay off it yourself.

this isn't interesting. this is dumb. look into fluid dynamics and reality. if you are some young earth brainwashee, go join the flight attendant crew. there is no giant conspiracy that will stop you from working on any major airlines. just your own confirmation bias.

Are you saying planes go from LAX to NRT by going East across the US/Atlantic/Africa/Middle East-Asia? Because that doesn’t happen. The planes go West across the Pacific. Look up flight UAL32 on Flight Aware and you can see it’s going west from LA to Tokyo.

I don't understand what you're asking, as airlines fly west all the time.

I think he’s asking why airplanes fly over the poles, rather than directly west.

Aircraft don't fly over the poles, for obvious safety reasons. Do you mean the great circle routes?

I stand corrected, not right over it. Any particular safety reason they cannot go over the pole?

CHH416 gets close though; 80 degrees north, starting around 40 north, and finishing below 30 north.

Would you want to have a problem over the barren and frozen wastelands of either the Arctic or Antarctic?

Yeah, but neither would I want one over the north Atlantic! Interesting question whether you have a better chance of surviving an emergency landing on the mud Atlantic (Hudson river style) or one on the arctic ice.

Well, if your flying West from Europe, you really don't have any choice. Unless you're patient and can book a ship...

antartica is not all frozen

Well, it's not exactly the Bahamas is it?

Ive flown from LA to Tokyo and the flight path i saw on the entertainment system showed that we were flying over the pacific (westward)

Perhaps, but staying in the air is more expensive to the airline as they need to pay for the crew, fuel, and maintenance. They also charge a fixed amount so they aren’t making any more money by flying longer.

Imo this would be plausible if the ticket fee was dynamic like uber, otherwise it makes more sense to get to the destination and pick up another set of passengers as quickly as possible.

I have a friend that is a commercial pilot and he confided in me that his airline pushes him to fill with less fuel than he estimates to save costs which is also counter indicative to this theory although this is one airline out of many.

Hi.

There’re two reasons.

If you want to go due west and you are halfway up the globe (say Boston to Portland), then it is shorter to fly a bit north first. Buy a globe, pull a piece of string between Boston and Portland, and the shortest route isn’t due west. Similar the other direction, and on the Southern Hemisphere you will go south.

Second, prevailing winds are west in medium latitudes of the northern hemisphere, so it can be faster to go a bit north first if you must go west. Flights from Europe to the US fly far north, flights in the other direction go a bit less far as the tail wind helps them.

Hope that helps.

Not right over it. Any particular safety reason they cannot go over the pole?

CHH416 gets close though; 80 degrees north, starting around 40 north, and finishing below 30 north.

you just proved flat earth ;)

I flew west?

New York to California

Flights take into account current headwinds/jetstreams & the Earth is wider at the Equator than the poles.

If you book a flight from LAX to Tokyo.....you go west.

Well, if your flying West from Europe, you really don't have any choice. Unless you're patient and can book a ship...

The flat earth model

Can you provide a link to the flat earth model? I am very interested how it handles the observed phenomenon of Doppler shifts and distance in GPS signals. I would like to understand how transmitters moving at 2+ km/s second 300+ km above us work on that model.