No idea on Deserttron, but I'll talk Forgotten Languages with you all day.

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Why do you think they put some sections in english?

Did you hear about how some people apparently got a hold of NodeSpace and translated some of the text? There's a FL reddit, but it seems to be dead. I found out about FL after the sort of 'rush' when people were heavily investigating it, but all the communities dedicated to trying to understand it seem to have died down....is there a place where people are still actively discussing it?

Damn. Well, yeah, I'd love to hop in that discord. Beyond that ATS post, and a few people's youtube videos, and your subreddit, not too much on those guys. If there are other FL info-aggregation points, please point me in that direction.

Nothing more exciting to me than a good mystery, and FL is one of the better ones out there. I've learned so much about linguistics just from browsing through their stuff. REALLLY wanna know what the deal is....if I could just read a translation of Affel's Notebook or Lillith's Chess, I'd be pretty over-the-moon.

That sounds interesting...could you give me a quick TL:DR of what this Forgotten Languages thing is...never heard of it before.

Nah man, I've done that too many times for too many people. Gonna have to refer you to the old 4chan adage: "Lurk moar".

Here's the website: https://forgottenlanguages-full.forgottenlanguages.org/

Here's the form post that explains most of it (basically the extent of what we know at this point): http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread958299/pg1

Good luck!

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No worries...that's more than I needed. Thanks for the links!!!!

I'll share a theory I find interesting about the emergence of human consciousness from our prehuman ancestors, inc copypasta from an old comment of mine.

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I think Love was what started it all. I think that the concept of Love was imprinted into the minds of our pre-human ancestors through the process of Love Indoctrination. Though the mother may nurture her child through instinct, to the child, this is pure, unconditional love. I believe this is how our consciousness developed.

Love indoctrination is essentially the idea that the human mind learned empathy and selflessness through the unconditional love of a mother (freely given though dictated by instinct) to the child, which received it pure of instinct and saw it only as unconditional love. The idea is that this helped foster the human consciousness. I'll give a link but I want to caution that I do not agree with everything the World Transformation Movement (whom will provide the link) believes.

Link: https://www.humancondition.com/freedom-love-indoctrination/

Snip from link

and thus understand why the present human-condition-afflicted human race hasn’t been able to adequately nurture our infants to the extent their instincts expect that it becomes safe to finally admit that nurturing is what made us human—that it was nurturing that gave us our moral soul and created humanity. So how did nurturing create our extraordinary unconditionally selfless moral instincts?

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while nurturing is a genetically selfish trait, from an observer’s point of view it appears to be unconditionally selfless behaviour—the mother is giving her offspring food, warmth, shelter, support and protection for apparently nothing in return. This point is most significant because it means from the infant’s perspective its mother is treating it with real love, with unconditional selflessness. The infant’s brain is, therefore, being trained or indoctrinated or inscribed with unconditional selflessness and so, with enough training in unconditional selflessness, that infant will grow into an adult who behaves unconditionally selflessly.

I genuinely do believe our ancestors were closer to Bonobos than they were to Apes, as Bonobos are far more loving creatures who have sex to settle differences and are ruled by the Women of the tribe, who are the ones to select mates based on non aggression traits.

More bonobo links- https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/04/170429095021.htm

The ruling families sometimes erroneously referred to as "illuminati" are descended from the hyksos. They've written/compiled all of our bibles, established the fiat pyramid currency scheme, and have control over your most popular media, political, and religious institutions.

Through a combination of controlled reincarnation and old, established money control, they continue to work their plan through the ages without many people realizing what they're up to. The power is focused at the top of the family, but they have many branches of relatives they place in power, ensuring that the control system in place isn't infiltrated or compromised by outside interests. They're technically human, but follow a distinctly inhuman agenda.

It sounds even weirder when I leave no sources, so I'm gonna go ahead and not do that. Happy hunting :)

That's probably the best starting point. But he kinda drops the ball after King David, Solomon, Psusennes, and doesn't explore much further on who they actually were, where they came from, where they went, etc. From his starting point, you can then jump to "where did the Greeks/macedonians come from? Where did the various "tribes" go? Who were the "sea people"? Where did Roman aristocracy come from? (Hint: Greece again...). Where did Danes and britons come from?

All of these strings can be (loosely) traced through conventional archaeology and history, but it's so sprawling that people don't put the pieces together. Once you start down the reincarnation rabbit hole, though, it gets a little more... esoteric...

Children of the matrix by David Icke

From my research I haven't been able to confirm the potential for bloodlines remaining intact much farther than the 5th century Roman Elite's. From at least the 5th century onward there's an avenue of survival possible in the institution of the Church and in the Byzantine Court at Constantinople, which ties into Khazarian marriage into the Eastern Roman nobility in the 11th century.

Some families claim traces back through even ancient Greece. It's obviously difficult to trace directly, but there are ties between ruling Greek families and later Roman Caesars/rulers, including the church. There are lots of gaps in the family tree because of lack of records, but then again, you can still find unexpected hidden gems, like where the Julio-Claudian dynasty immigrated from. Their ancestors, a couple hundred years before the "empire" came directly from Greece, even being distinguished by their "unusually" shaped noses.

It is somewhat amusing that the Hyksos were forced from Egypt at a similar time to the Hebrews, is it not?

My favourite passage from the bible goes something like this:

21 Then Israel sent messengers to Sihon king of the Amorites, saying, 22 “Let us pass through your land. We will not cut through any field or vineyard, or drink water from any well. We will stay on the King’s Highway until we have passed through your territory.” 23 But Sihon would not let Israel pass through his territory. Instead, he gathered his whole army and went out to confront Israel in the wilderness. When he came to Jahaz, he fought against Israel

The appearance of Gobekli and Karahan Tepe right after the flood, plus the spread of "wisdom" from that area (agriculture, building, domestication), slightly south into Canaan - where Jericho was built less than 1000 years later - and from which stock of people (The Amorites) was Babylonian civilization derived.

The Canaanites were recipients of knowledge from the survivors of the flood. The Hyksos/Hebrews stole their land, culture, history, religion, secrets and destiny.

Is it not odd too, that Carthaginian culture is strikingly similar to Phoenician culture (the only Canaanite culture to survive slightly longer). After the defeat of Carthage, they "retreated to their copper mines in the west" (This last part I am still slightly uncertain of, but the appearance of Michigan Copper in the Mediterranean, plus the Phoenicians reputation of sailing, makes it at least possible.)

Good stuff. The ties between "European" and "middle eastern" culture got so mixed up during the greek-to-roman empires, that I see them as pretty much the same. Truly European cultures, like the Celts for example, were completely and utterly wiped out, or nearly, at least. It was then replaced by the culture of the conquerors, who came from Italy->greece->canaan->egypt->sumer->India? It wasn't until later, during the rise of Islam, that they separated and split down very different paths again. (But still based on abrahamic ideology, unsurprisingly...)

The Celts are widely known to be descendants of the Indo-Aryan people, who are from somewhere in Inner Asia.

Are they working for archons or equivalent entities?

Possibly, but I think that could be a separate topic from this. I think there's something currently considered "supernatural" to it (notice the reincarnation reference), but I think that throwing archons into it muddles an already-hard-to-digest theory, and mine isn't dependent on archons.

But it does seem like the next logical step to pursue

The reason why we don't go to the Moon anymore is because we were warned from there.

Armstrong: It was incredible … of course, we had always known there was a possibility … the fact is, we were warned off. There was never any questions then of a space station or a moon city.

Professor: How do you mean “warned off”?

Armstrong: I can’t go into details, except to say that their ships were far superior to ours both in size and technology – boy, where they big! … and menacing …. No, there is no question of a space station.

Where did these come from? Our previous human civilisations circa. 30,000 years ago who were completely wiped out. Only that the Moon has preserved their Moon stations. It was most likely robotic security devices protecting those 'ships'.

Now you're probably thinking, why not go and explore? Well imagine footage of this coming out, how the hell would they be able to explain it all?

This sounds really interesting but I couldn’t find anything more about this. Could you share the full interview perhaps?

Source on interview? Not tryna be a pain in the ass here, just wanna keep this ammo in my back pocket for future discussions with friends. Thanks

When viewing mountains of evidence suggesting the Apollo astronauts are simply bad actors, and that the entire program was an elaborate hoax, some people conclude that they faked some moon missions in a film studio.

Others... conclude that they went to the moon, saw aliens, etc.

Please, whatever you do...... never evoke Occam's Razor.

I hope they saw aliens. I would love the alien theories to be true!

We were warned off but tried to go back another 6 times in the following 3 years?

There's not been a manned mission since the 70s

Correct. 1972 was the last. What did you think I said?

That we tried to go back 6 times 3 years after.

Mr. Armstrong wasn't necessarily saying he and Buzz were greeted by robotic thugs at the tail end of our first visit there, was he? Maybe it happened a couple of years later, once it was obvious the visits would be ongoing.

I mean, beyond a kooky theory, but actually fun to think about.

HIV doesn’t exist. Aids does. HIV was fabricated by tptb in order to explain away AIDs. Why? Because aids is caused by lots of anal sex. These are luciferians in TPTB and love anal sex. Having it be known as the cause of health issues was obviously bad business for them, it would logically cause people to believe the Bible. Homosexuals were just the icing on the insane cake that is the HIV fraud.

How does it work? The hiv tests are unspecified highly sensitive tests meaning that they test for a ton of different issues but can do that will incredible accuracy. Yes hiv tests are reactive for 62 issues. This is how they keep the fraud going. Positive test = hiv. Despite nobody actually establishing HIV exists.

This can all be learned from The House of Numbers but most of my research cane from just reading the DHHS and NIH reports on HIV and utilizing common sense.

Yep, people don't like this one. Anyone interested should check out some interviews with Nobel-Prize winning chemist Kary Mullis who is a proponent of HIV not being the cause of AIDS.

Don't forget that the virus HTLV-1 causes cancer and is related to HIV/AIDS. A tangled web indeed...

HTLV doesn’t cause cancer. Where did you learn that? In the 70s before HIV was ‘discovered’ they believed HTLV causes leukemia and upon inspection of patients affilicted only like 2% or something small developed leukemia.

From here

Just because it only causes 2% to get Leukemia, that's still a virus that causes cancer...

we are talking about the false idea that hiv 100% causes AIDs...

What theories do you enjoy talking about that not many people have heard?

Medical conspiracies.

Sorry for contributing.

Its seriously horrific. when I researched this myself I was shocked by the depravity of these people, their endless schemes and lies.

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HIV might not even exist - there is no way of knowing. THe research currently done is in a bubble so the researches doing it are using correct science but the basis of what is HIV is totally fraudulent.

Wow! Interesting.

Let me know if you have any questions or need more resources.

How could lots of anal sex result in AIDS?

Through the introduction of foreign bacteria, viruses, fungus and DNA. it really only becomes an issue if you are having tons of anal sex. The original aids patients were gay men and some had as many as 10,000 sex partners (these guys weren’t that old either).

The human blood stream is not designed to expect or handle foreign dna let alone many different strains of foreign dna. Unprotected Anal sex with ejactulation risks dna getting into the blood steam.

Consider how many stds were shared and then cured with antibiotics. If you had 5,000 partners like another aids patient had and only got an antibiotic treated STD from 1% still is 500 infections.

This is exacerbated by the drug called Poppers which relaxes the muscles and sphincter allowing for prolonged anal sex sessions increasing the likelihood of damage to the thin anal lining.

Consider poppers is also linked with damage to the immune system and the height of poppers usage was during the height of AIDs.

Holy smokes! That's interesting I remember reading years ago how unhealthy oral sex is for the recipient but never knew anything about this. Considering that naturally the anus is not supposed to be penetrated, being penetrated thousands of times and resulting in some horriffic fatal illness is not surprising.

How did you come across these well presented facts?

the House id Numbers on Youtube the Perth group Virusmyth.com Liam Sheff

And finally I confirmed all this by reading the NIH and DHHS articles on hiv. After I realized that there is no evidence for hiv I turned to figuring out what is killing these people. They all have unprotected anal sex over a long period of time or heavy drug use in common.

Very interesting. I've always questioned why such a prevalent disease is incredibly new. 'Patient zero 'makes absolutely no sense. Why do you think they mask it as ana ctual illness rather than the result of a hedonistic lifestyle?

I read JOB doesn't exist also and that is just a culmination of multiple diseases a person has contracted if you'd comment on that.

Because the powers that be that control many different industries fabricated aids to cover up the anal sex cause of AIDs. Why? Because saying anal sex makes you ill would obviously make people think of the Bible and as you said realize the natural order of things (anal sex is not natural). As you may or may not notice the decline in our morality - having anal sex be taboo would not expedite that decline. These days if a girl isn’t having anal she is considered a prude. If people knew it caused aids that would not be the case, right.

AIDs is just around 300 dieseases that are allegedly caused by HIV. I don’t know what you are mentioning. All the AIDs dieseases exist without HIV.

I wish i could find the source of what i read but it basically said HIV did not exist as a single disease but it is a culmination of diseases. And on your last point I'm in my ealry 30s when I was at school the most you got from girls was either a handjob or a blowjob. But nowadays kids are skipping from French tongue to anal sex. Our society is totally lost.

HIV definitely doesn’t exist and could be a culmination of various stds and viruses caught from so much unprotected sex all snowballing Inti AIDs.

A handjob was like crazy. Now it’s like developed tits and eating ass at 15.

• The Black Eagle bonds that were paid to SOVIET oligarchs to fund the downfall of the USSR and were coming due Sept 12, 2001.

• The possibility of a "Project Greenbeam" - whereby, rather than fake an alien attack, you fake an ancient civilization, whose "ruins" you construct and make up a plausable story. The outcomes of which could be:

1) "So, yeahhhh, we are the surviving Atlanteans and it's time we reveal ourselves to you.... bow down and we will show you space and cure all your diseases, etc"

2) "Wow look, Atlantis sank because of man-made climate change!" (If you think it's stupid, it's because it is: but the public would fall for it hook line and sinker.)

• That the Council for National Policy wants a Turner Diaries-esque situation and serves as the right-wing clone of the CFR, but the mission of the CNP is to control the right. They do this through membership of prominent Christian and gun organizations. The members-list is practically a who's-who of any Alex Jones movie, including the council's OWN head.

• The Solutreans lived in North America almost 20,000 years ago, Is it not interesting how sites can exist 6-10 THOUSAND years before Asiatic immigrants walked across the land-bridge and through the parted glaciers? Is it not also interesting how the distribution of these sites are ALMOST ALL on the EAST COAST.

As for FL, it seems to me like almost the same as the plot for Mr Robot, replace "Dark Army" with XViS.

im not on here too much but I cant recall seeing anything on the Tavostock Institute

Tavistock

I and O are neighbors : -)

but TY

GLP

Number 2 pencils. Like where are number 1 or 3 pencils? How did two get such a monopoly?

There's actually several different types of graphite pencils.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/16/ec/74/16ec744aa2b438bfc02bfd8a8c72d4fd.jpg

2 for whatever reason became most common for writing.

And how would you like to have been a test subject for Preparations A through G?

(Apologies to whichever standup comic I just stole that from. Perhaps Robin Williams, but if it was, he possibly stole it from someone else anyway.)

I'm kind of interested in the whole "wall street washes drug money" conspiracy theory. It was started by Michael Rupert to explain why the cia is so connected to the drug trade. Yes, they ran opium in the 1960s, yes they ran cocaine in the 1980, yes they ran heroin after 911. Why? So the money can be pumped into the US dollar and washed through the stock market.

You want to run 10 million in coke into the United States? That's fine, you aren't getting 10 million dollars back, you are getting 200 Ford F150s back to sell in your home county.

The "CAPT. Larry Khan" written on the bottom of Kurt Cobain suicide note . Bottom right corner..doesnt appear in the original release of note, but seems to be there on re release after new crime scene pictures were re-released by the Seattle police Dept. Maybe it was edited out of the original release? Curiously , if you look at original release in the spot where it should be, looks like someone used Photoshop in that very spot.

Can be found if you look at Wikipedia entry "Kurt Cobains Suicide" Apparently people thought it might have been written by a cop on scene, day of his death but there's no cop with that name .

There is however, someone who uses the psydeoum "Larry Khan" who is employed in the record industry.. Apparently an associate of DGC, but employed by Jive records.

Anyone know anything about this? I've only discovered all of this in last few days.

Any input greatly appreciated.!

This is interesting. I usually try to stay away from any of the Cobain suicide theories--partly because despite Love's behavior, I like Hole's music and most theories basically shit on them--but this is one I've never heard of before. I'll have to check it out...

Hey thanks for the response . I used to believe Courtney Love somehow played a hand in Kurts death, but I'm not so sure anymore. I've heard a few diff theories, also one interesting one I heard about Love is that Rosemary Carroll discovered a handwriting sample on a piece of paper in Loves bag after Kurts death that looked like she was practicing copying someone's writing. Who knows really . I grew up enjoying Holes music quite a bit , and I feel she has unfairly taken a lot of flak regarding his death . But we will possibly never know. Or maybe we will one day?

A certain youtuber speaks about hollyweird quite regularly and has some interesting information and some strange clips on his channel. He will usually address hollyweird at least once a show, give it a shot!

the U.S. congress forcing the U.N. to announce that sugar is good.

Just a load of BS to sell us shit food. Money and power rule the world. Thousands of people are dying in Syria, its all about the power and money.

Keep your sugars less than or equal to 20g/day and you’ll be alright. If you can go less or none at all even better, we’re talking processed sugars here. Not naturally occurring like in fruits and vegetables.

Or do keto/extreme low carb. I'm currently on month 2 of IF and keto and I feel like a completely new person.

I sure hope those tunnels are being put to use. That's a lot of work and money just to flood 'em with water.

The Trudeau government has been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood.

What is this, Facebook?

😂

Good argument.

Well, it's just the kind of stupid shit I see being posted on Facebook through memes created by Conservative groups, with no basis in reality, just grasping at straws and fanning flames of racism to try to beat the Liberals in the next election.

There's a Muslim person in his cabinet, Canada's first. She's a woman, though. I kinda doubt she's in the Muslim Brotherhood, unless she's also the first transgender cabinet member.

Now that would be a good conspiracy. But otherwise, what are you talking about?

You guys just don't get it. Islam has infiltrated the wests governments and are invading from the inside out. Look at Minnesota and Keith Ellison. That state is turning into an Islam controlled territory and the left is helping.

I'm curious to some of the links where you get your news so I can see how different your Internet is from mine.

Obviously not from MSM. Dig a little.

Extensive cavern systems exist under the surface that are inhabited by several different types of creatures, some possibly very advanced.

Lately I've been digging for details on the Hypogeum on Malta.

Robert Bigelow owns alien technology.

@TheCrawlerFl What do you believe the government could be using the extensive tunnel system for?

Niburu or something is helping cause the weird weather.

Nothing is real.

We chose to come to come to earth from a better place.

I have no proof of anything just the way I feel.

Gnosticism

I have a theory that the Las Vegas shooting by Stephen Paddock was an act of lunacy committed by a psychopath and not some conspiracy by some arms dealer or some kind of FBI operation.

i have 2 that never ever get talked about and are IMO the most important.

1. the china study

2. http://losethename.com/

Possibility that a person, an observer can't really die. Person who "dies", actually moves to a parallel universe or "timeline". Person indeed dies in one universe, but an experiencer himself just saw a bad dream or dodged the bullet somehow. Quantum mechanics and multiverses, you know.

That brings a weird concept to suicide as a level skip cheat code. Sounds dangerous. Think I’ll wait this one out.

You can dig deeper, if interested.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/biocentrism/201312/the-myth-death?amp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo

Yeah, I actually have been interested in gnosticism and an idea of two creator gods, good and evil. Have been listening quite a few Graham Hancock interviews about this and it's very interesting indeed. However, I'd still like to believe, that everyone of us is guaranteed to have that everlasting peace at some point. Maybe after 50 reincarnations or after this society is wiped out for good who knows, but in the end the good creator (what ever that is) will collect back its consciousness energy or spirits whatever. I also think that, at least Abrahamic religions are all the same. Interpretations about the same idea will vary from, but this salvation theme will stay through the religions.

Gnosticism is quite hard about salvation and ending this spirit wandering, but more or less the idea of gaining some "gnosis" is only good for us. I have a pentecostal history myself and boy do I find it super blasphemic to read and identify with gnosticism and other weird theories about life, death and consciousness.

I died in a different universe. Check my post, some real interesting shit happened before it went down.

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Self sustained Nuclear fusion already exists. Now they are simply trying to bring construction costs down and work out how to release the technology without destroying existing economic interests.

The US government added the Multiracial option to the census in order to water down crime and school statistics. People in the past who may have been classified as Black or Hispanic are now considered multiracial. The achievement gap will eventually be closed with this racial category because it will be impossible to differentiate subgroups. Everyone will eventually be multiracial.

The US government added the Multiracial option to the census in order to water down crime and school statistics. People in the past who may have been classified as Black or Hispanic are now considered multiracial. The achievement gap will eventually be closed with this racial category because it will be impossible to differentiate subgroups. Everyone will eventually be multiracial.

Some families claim traces back through even ancient Greece. It's obviously difficult to trace directly, but there are ties between ruling Greek families and later Roman Caesars/rulers, including the church. There are lots of gaps in the family tree because of lack of records, but then again, you can still find unexpected hidden gems, like where the Julio-Claudian dynasty immigrated from. Their ancestors, a couple hundred years before the "empire" came directly from Greece, even being distinguished by their "unusually" shaped noses.

Because the powers that be that control many different industries fabricated aids to cover up the anal sex cause of AIDs. Why? Because saying anal sex makes you ill would obviously make people think of the Bible and as you said realize the natural order of things (anal sex is not natural). As you may or may not notice the decline in our morality - having anal sex be taboo would not expedite that decline. These days if a girl isn’t having anal she is considered a prude. If people knew it caused aids that would not be the case, right.

AIDs is just around 300 dieseases that are allegedly caused by HIV. I don’t know what you are mentioning. All the AIDs dieseases exist without HIV.