You're blaming women for low wages instead of the corporatist oligarchs who control the flow of the economy? Fascinating. This will definitely get someone a second date.

Wage slavery is better than being forced into a marriage just to survive.

to befair, different religions and cultures have differing marraige beliefs. just because they live here doesn't mean they change philosophies, or cultural habits. note; i am not specifically talking about any group, there are rotten bits within every tree.

a bit of anecdotal evidence... went to school in new england. in middle school, early nineties, there was a girl that belonged to one of the romani families that do paving on the east coast. she was a beautiful, sweet girl with big blue eyes and jet black hair. she wore expensive outfits from new york, but was very humble. her father found out she was "fraternizing" with boys in school. he shaved her head, sent her to school like that for about and month... and then she was pulled from school entirely. religious and cultural beliefs can be a motherfucker.

the anecdotal evidence wa from the nineties... she went on to marry her cousin. also, warren jeffs, for another example.

I'm blaming the agenda to push women into the workforce I.e. feminism.

You'v been sold a bill of goods. Women, except for the wives of the wealthy, were always in the workforce. They were underpaid, exploited and abused until they gathered their forces and started demanding reasonable treatment.

If you knew this, why are you framing your argument as if there was an 'agenda to push women into the work force'?

The main work related point was to address the issues that women of the time were experiencing in the workplace.

t. Butthurt feminist

You're not necessarily wrong, but I hate how selfish and corrupt unions have become, so...

you are blaming women for the 80s era cuts in federal funding to the state colleges and universities that once allowed the working class children to attend very low or no tuition state colleges and universities. Good boy, that is the intention.

Blame the powerless for the problems.

lol? are feminist women?

You are right. The Rockefellers funded the agenda. Women were duped by it all.

He's not blaming women specifically. Not even sure how you come to that conclusion.

Feminist ideology undermined the collective union between different activist organizations. People like Gloria Steinem were useful idiots for the system to subvert and undermine the solidarity of the counterculture and working class activists by making it about rich white girls and their right to wear bras or not.

Should women have the right to vote /u/RMFN ?

All humans are equally entitled to the same inborn rights that the constitution was created to protect.

You say constitution. Is that different then the Constitution of the United States? Do you mean as originally written or as currently amended?

It's a living document.

Why even respond to any of this if you aren't going to give a straight answer?

That isn't a straight answer? It is a living document meaning it has changed over time. It was never meant to be the origial unedited document forever.

No your statement does not answer to which version of the Constitution you are referencing nor does it, due to the use of constitution instead of Constitution, directly specify which one you are talking about.

There is only one version. That is the living document.

All you have to do is answer Yes women have the right to vote.

You keep playing with words to avoid giving a direct answer.

What? Reffer to the first comment I had to you where I said "absolutely" in response to that question.

Did you miss that?

Nope. Then you started a second subthread referencing the constitution. You then failed to clarify which constitution you meant and went on a rather twisty path so as to leave it unclear as to what you meant.

And that ignores your other unresearched comments you made which you still haven't retracted.

So you felt the need to ask something I already answered repeatedly?

I felt the need for clarification when you needlessly split your answer into multiple parts as shown here https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/9eot0n/gloria_steinem_was_cia_and_feminism_was_used_to/e5qi0jv/

Lol are you a flat earther?

You are free to examine my posting history and draw your on conclusions.

How did you come to the conclusion that the Earth is flat? Your precious Bible?

/u/RMFN dude you really need to read my posting history and why do you assume I am religious / feel the need to even bring religion into this?

Have you ever noticed that when you open a dictionary that words sometimes have multiple definitions?

Kinda like how pilpul is used to reconcile contradictions in scripture? Things have multiple hermeneutic angles?

http://dict.org

of course they should have the right to... but should they?

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Or you are just an ignorant fool.

Pitiful response.

That too.

Look up the Aaron Russo interview in which he discusses the Rockefellers.

Women have been politically active for a long time, notably in the U.S. and Great Britain in the 1800s and early 1900s.

However the book, The Feminine Mystique by Betty Friedan, was the catalyst that began the movement of the late 60s and 70s in the U.S.

Sure the CIA might have jumped in, like they jumped in on everything then, for control and damage; The Black Panthers, the Anti-Vietnam War movement, Feminism, Civil Rights organizations were huge targets.

But please don't pretend the CIA created the movement for equal rights for women.

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Gloria Steinem was CIA and feminism was used to put a wedge in the family while at the same time drive down wages destroying the union movement with the addition of so many millions of workers.

Wages were increasing while the labor force had an increase participation of women.

In this graph you can see the trend of women entering the workforce since the end of the the second world war.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300002

Wages continued to increase until the 1970's at which point real income became stagnant.

https://www.epi.org/publication/ib330-productivity-vs-compensation/

Your whole narrative rests on a misguided application of supply and demand as being a determinant of wages, and weaving a tale where an increase in supply of workers brings down wages. In the real world, this is not how this works. Wages are moments of class struggle and are determined on how strong the working class is in its bargaining power. Inclusion of women into early militant labor movements was one of the reasons why we got the eight hour working day, the weekend, and higher wages. To grasp the role women played in the early labor movement, we need to grasp a few facts about their participation, prior to WW2.

By the 1880s wage work for many women was a fact of life. From 1870 to 1910 the proportion of women "engaged in gainful occupations" steadily increased from 14 percent to over 20 percent. This general figure, however, masked the specific importance of women's work for particular communities or industries. In some areas, few if any women worked outside their own homes, while elsewhere the figures far exceeded the national average. In 1880, for example, women constituted 26 percent of Philadelphia's workers, 34 percent of the workers in Fall River, Massachusetts, and 35 percent of the work force in Atlanta, Georgia. Women's work-force participation depended largely on local employment opportunities. Areas with major concentrations of textile mills or clothing industries employed the largest numbers of women. In Philadelphia women made up 46 percent of the city's textile industry while in Fall River the figure approached 50 percent. Except for two textile cities, Lowell and Lawrence, Massachusetts, Atlanta had the highest percentage of employed women because of exceptional numbers of domestic servants, most of whom probably were black. In contrast, centers of heavy industry such as Chicago or Pittsburgh held fewer opportunities for women's employment. In Chicago women constituted only 19 percent of the work force, 42 percent of them working as servants and another 34 percent in the clothing industry. Clearly the significance of women's work varied according to local circumstances. Nonetheless, in particular communities and specific industries, women's wage work had become a central feature of Gilded Age life.

Levine, S. (1983). Labor’s True Woman: Domesticity and Equal Rights in the Knights of Labor. The Journal of American History,

So the whole story of the high paid male worker whose wages are depressed because women enter the workforce because of feminism is a fable.

As for who is actually interested in destroying the society we live in...

Our movement will be entirely destructive, and entirely constructive. We will not try to reform the existing institutions. We only intend to weaken them, and eventually destroy them. We will endeavor to knock our opponents off-balance and unsettle them at every opportunity. All of our constructive energies will be dedicated to the creation of our own institutions.

That is by Eric Heubeck, who wrote, The Integration of Theory and Practice: A Program for the New Traditionalist Movement, a manual Paul Weyrich had him write. Projection is strong on the paleo-conservative, fascist right!

Makes sense she worked in the CIA honeypot Playboy Club, yeah I can see it...

Lmfaoooooo. I knew there were some women haters in this sub but damn I am disheartened. Feminism wasn’t made for anyone but women and the equality of sexes. Stop trying to make women’s rights a threat.