pizzagate = 666 in sumerian gematria.

Better to use pedogate, as it makes more sense when we are talking about about the crimes that these parasites in control comit.

monsanto = 666
pizzagate = 666
santa claus = 666

and so on... The english language was crafted very carefully, you should know this..... Gematria is not bullshit, it should be obvious to you that the parasites that be use it....

Can you explain how you arrive at those numbers?

www.gematrinator.com will show you the different ciphers.

Thanks. I see they all add up to 111, but how do you get to 666?

look at bottom of page click classic, then click all ciphers, and u'll see the sumerian cipher there, click that and itll show u the math for it

I found it. So this Sumerian cipher just multiplies all numbers by 6. I have several questions:

• Why is it called Sumerian? It can't have anything to do with actual Sumerian, which used an entirely different alphabet.

• By what reasoning do we use this cipher instead of the "standard" one (A=1 etc.)? The site you linked offers so many different ciphers that I feel like you'll be able to find lots of interesting numbers for any kind of word.

• Is there any demonstrable connection between Monsanto, pizzagate and Santa Claus (beside the numerological one)?

You contribute to the bottom spooks of reddit sub, it is no suprise to me that your name = 666....

If you want to know more about gematria, do some research...

monsanto, pizzagate, and even santa claus are all connected. High level politicians and corporatists are all initiated into secret societys. These secret societys are all owned by a select few bloodlines that have been ruling this planet since before the days of babylon.

Humanity as it is, is cattle, no one actually thinks for themselves.

These bloodlines create religions, nations, and governments to control humanity, so that is how all that is connected.

I suggest you cut ties with bottomspooksanduselessidiotsofreddit... That sub is all about controlling the narrative, it is ran by five eyes spooks, and the rest of the users are useful/less idiots.

You contribute to the bottom spooks of reddit sub, it is no suprise to me that your name = 666....

If you want to know more about gematria, do some research...

monsanto, pizzagate, and even santa claus are all connected. High level politicians and corporatists are all initiated into secret societys. These secret societys are all owned by a select few bloodlines that have been ruling this planet since before the days of babylon.

Humanity as it is, is cattle, no one actually thinks for themselves.

These bloodlines create religions, nations, and governments to control humanity, so that is how all that is connected.

I suggest you cut ties with bottomspooksanduselessidiotsofreddit... That sub is all about controlling the narrative, it is ran by five eyes spooks, and the rest of the users are useful/less idiots.

Yes, I admit I'm subscribed to TMOR because I like to get a laugh out of weird conspiracy theories. At the same time, I'm legitimately interested to understand viewpoints like yours (believe it or not), hence why I asked you about your gematria.

Unfortunately you didn't really answer my questions. You're saying that basically everything is connected because everything is controlled by secret societies. But then what's special about Monsanto, Pizzagate, and Santa Claus (and myself, apparently) for them to have the number 666? Why for example doesn't Google (which I'm sure you assume to be controlled too) add up to 666? Why doesn't TopMindsOfReddit equal 666, but titlegore does? I mean, even your username turns out 1666 with the "English extended" cipher. To me it just seems completely random. And if you presuppose that everything is connected, you can just draw up numerical connections everywhere without any methodology - it's a self-fulfilling prophecy so to speak.

I'm not trying to be a dick but I hope you understand my reasoning. Your numbers would only convince me if 1) I believed beforehand that there's a global cabal controlling everything, or if 2) you should me a real methodology (which cipher to use and why, which numbers mean what etc.) so we could then check different words and see whether the results are indicative of anything or just random.

But didn't people on 4chan come up with the term pizzagate? And the term "gate" comes from a completely unrelated event, Watergate. So it would literally be a coincidence if pizzagate equaled 666....unless you're saying 4chan was in on it

4chan is no different than reddit, both are filled with low level spooks and shills.

Gate refers to government involvement.

Sort of...

There's nothing mystical about it. But the elite believe in it, so they use it. Just like their secret handshakes and signs and tokens.

But the elite believe in it

how do you know that?

Yes and no. Some of the players are unquestionably pedos. But there were clearly psyops to add incorrect info and crazy theories to throw people off the trail and to make pizzagate researchers sound crazy.

There is no connection between those two so why on earth would accepting one require me to accept the other?

Both imply a governmental level paedophile ring. Other relevant examples of political paedophiles are in South Africa and the UK.

I can make up a governmental level pedophile ring today. Doesn't mean there is any reason to believe in it.

The cases in Belgium, UK and South Africa are not made up.

And they have nothing to do with pizzagate. Nothing at all.

Pizzagate implies a governmental level paedophile ring.

The argument that a US governmental level paedophile ring is not possible is spurious

Pizzagate claims a pedophile ring run from Comet Pizza, made-up code words in leaked emails and that Podesta is one of the most powerful people in DC.

Exactly, given the other examples that exist around the world, pizzagate could be true.

That is a nonsensical argument.

That is basically how every LARP is born. This could be true, so lets just pretend that it is.

Only in the pizzagate case it is backed by a lot of circumstantial evidence (amongst quite a few red herrings).

I would say like what, but it has been posted so many times here that I don't need to. I will just say I find the "evidence" extremely lacking.

The "evidence" makes me suspicious. The effort put into "debunking" (both here and elsewhere) convinces me that there is some truth to the theory.

I find the effort put into pushing pizzagate suspicious. I find the timing of it really convenient,

The timing of the original theory was solely down to podesta's emails via wikileaks. This was organic.

There are reminder emails here every week or so which, I agree, do have some suspicious timings. Pizzagate has become a political pawn, like Seth Rich.

Today's reminder post is probably more related to the banning of subs.

The timing in regards to the election was a clear benefit to Trump. Trumps son has been in contact to Wikileaks. So it could still be inorganic.

This entire sub is political. Everyone is just pretends its only the "other side" who is doing it.

The timing in regards to the election was a clear benefit to Trump.

True, but coincidental. Wikileaks released the emails shortly after receiving them. The timing by the leaker is likely to be election related though.

Trumps son has been in contact to Wikileaks.

Yes, wikileaks contacted trump jr to get trump's tax returns. Nothing to do with podesta, the igniter of pizzagate.

This entire sub is political. Everyone is just pretends its only the "other side" who is doing it.

Agree. Here there should be a general mistrust of everyone in power, no matter the political leanings.

I just don't like Wikileaks involving itself with the election. Tying itself with the Trump campaign was a mistake and it greatly affected my views on them.

Again, this is just a gut feeling more than anything. This isn't a hill I would die on or even strongly defend without more info.

My feeling is that wikileaks were/are anti-Hillary rather than pro Trump. The corruption exposed in the dnc leaks was legitimately newsworthy and was in favor of Bernie, not Trump.

Almost everything Wikileaks put out is newsworthy. I'm just not convinced they are truly impartial in regards to what information they put out and what they keep hidden.

They shouldn't be anti anything. They should just be funnel of information.

Agreed. They should publish a hash of everything they receive, and delay (not withhold) only the information that may endanger lives.

You are a person on the internet, people on the internet have posted child porn before. Ipso facto you could have posted child porn. Not to mention I'll assume it's true and any denial you or others make on your behalf only proves you must be denying it because it's true.

You are a person on the internet, people on the internet have posted child porn before. Ipso facto you could have posted child porn.

Up until here, we are in agreement, and it's the exact point OP is trying to make. Congratulations.

Congrats for missing half the subtext of this post. There are plenty of people that disbelief pizzagate specifically because there's no credible evidence for it. But those same people about a pedophile ring could exist in the government since such rings have been found. But this post is being literally obtuse in implying an equivalence between those positions.

Agree. Proven existence of elite pedophile rings does not imply that pizzagate is true.

If they are using code, there's a reason they are code word: because people use them in regular conversations anyways. Real evidence is needed

I feel there is enough circumstantial evidence for a surprise but thorough forensic investigation of one of their more recent "field houses", but I'm not a state prosecutor.

The phrasing isn't strange though, plenty of older people use the same phrasing when they're imitating 'hip lingo'

Who here is making that argument?

OP. It's in the title.

No they did not. They just said there is no connection. Not that governmental pedophile rings are impossible.

The connection is government level paedophile rings.

Anyone who does not accept pizzagate as fact. Pay attention!

/s

Your thread title implies it.

Sure.

Do you believe it is real or do you refuse to believe it?

How weird that he hasn't come back yet...

Hey at least you are aware of the massive fallacy you presented us.

Yes

That's just the thing isn't it. Franklin is real.

"Because this happened, this also happened" is essentially your argument.

Can we go through all your personal life stuff first before we start wondering what "bad taste" is.

Pretty sure the art collection was John Podesta's brother but propaganda don't need the details. Just accusations and commentary from the subs premier propagandist.

You are defending parasitic swine.... You don't belong here.

1. Nothing in that comment defended anyone, never mind pedophiles.

2. Who are you to say who belongs here?

I see past the..... bullshit....

Was it your comment?

Nope. I don't know why it was removed but c'est la vie.

"rule 10" Apparently RMFN is the sub.

waaah I'm allowed to troll and proagandize the subreddit and report comments for calling me out on it

Removed. Rule 5.

Was my argument that pizza gate happened? No.

Wait, what?

Who cares about something that didn't happen?

Remember in the book Graham Spanier was a central figure at the University of Nebraska? Then look who turns out to be a central figure at the Penn State when Sandusky pedo story broke. Graham Spanier. I guarantee that Sandusky wasn't the only kiddy diddler at Penn State.

The majority of people will never fully admit/accept the atrocities such as these. Their brains are completely incapable of it. They'd rather blow their brains out than admit to themselves that this sick fucked up shit is reality and goes on in all levels of society, industry and government. Reminds me of a reverse rapture. They're not being "chosen" by god but are offing themselves.

Willful delusion is very common. Evident portrayals most notably in drug addiction. Addiction recovery is unmasking the delusions. You have any idea how FEW people recover from alcohol and drug addiction? It is less than 10%.

Well said.

Idk, the issue with Pizza gate isn't "could it be real". Of course it could we see examples of powerful people preying on minors all the time. We also see pedophile rings involving powerful people.

The issue is "do we have any reason to believe it's real". If Clinton is actually part of a child sex/sacrifice ring, there is no evidence of it.

Pizza gate is a bunch of people making wild assumptions about secret messages that they assume is in seemingly boring emails.

It's not that the idea of a government pedophile ring is crazy. It's that crazy people came up with crazy idea to try to prove there was one.

Like Charlie in the mailroom

See, I don't think PizzaGate is real. I do believe PedoGate is real and PizzaGate was intentionally spread to make all government/pedo sex rings all sound crazy.

It was a Clinton Foundation employee caught snatching children from Haiti. They caught her on a plane with a child and put her jail. Bill Clinton comes to bail her out. She then gets hired at Amber Alert. Coincidence?

Let's not forget that Clinton was friends with that billionaire caught trafficking children. And we KNOW Clinton was on the plane he hosted some of that stuff on.

Trump was(is?) Friends with the same billionaire. Idk about you, but most Pizza gaters I've seen are Trump supporters and completely ignore that fact.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/04/jeffrey-epstein-trump-lawsuit-sex-trafficking-237983

Oh, definitely Trump was/is a part of it. I only mention Clinton because he specifically went to Haiti to bail out a Clinton Foundation employee that was attempting to snatch kids off the street and leave the country with them.

For the record, I don't trust either party at the moment. In certainly not a Trump supporter. I voted 3rd party this passed election.

I'd argue that just because Clinton and Trump know/visit him, doesn't mean they know anything about his criminal activities. If your friend was arrested for murder, there's no reason to think you're also a murderer or that you even knew he was murdering people.

People are going to gravitate towards him because he has money that they want. He's going to gravitate towards them because they have power he wants to use.

I'd like some sources on that Haiti thing if you have any. Are you sure Clinton knew why that employee needed bail? Or if he did, had any reason to believe the accusations were true?

Consider this scenario:

• Billionaire pedo befriends and donates to a politician to protect himself and influence laws.

• Politician accepts money and friendship knowing that the Billionaire expects favors like all donors, but doesn't know the heinous motivations behind them.

• Billionaire asks Politician to hire their "family friend", which is a fellow pedo. Billionaire knows that this position will allow the "friend" to travel the world and interact with children without suspicion.

• Politician agrees because it seems like a relatively harmless favor.

• While "friend" is in Haiti trying to capture kids, they are caught. They call Billionaire. Billionaire needs to help otherwise "friend" may rat him out, but he can't do it himself because he doesn't want to be tied to the case in any way.

• Politician gets a call from Billionaire saying "While 'Friend' was in Haiti they were kidnapped and are being threatened with false charges in an attempt to extort money from Billionaire"

• Billionaire asks Politician to go and take care of it, saying "If I do it, then everyone will start trying to extort me. Plus, it makes more sense for "friend's" boss and prominent politician to go rescue one of their employees."

• Politician doesn't like the idea of the bad press, but believes that the "Friend" was set up and doing this favor is worth the donations. Plus, it's his employee, he should do what he can to help.

TL;DR A long example of how you can be tied to a criminal, maybe even do some of their crime-related bidding, without being aware of their crimes or involved in them. Know idea how possible any of these examples could be without researching more about that Haiti event.

I've got boxes of Pepe Sylvia!

I only recently heard the fan theory that Pepe Sylvia was Charlie's illiterate reading of Pennsylvania.

That makes so much sense. This is the kind of quality content r/conspiracy needs!

So are these guys in on the Podesta plot?

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman* was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks* was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White*, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr* was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs* pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall* was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young.

Republican state senator Ralph Shortey from Oklahoma admitted to being involved in sodomy with a 17 year old male prostitute and transporting child pornography.

Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert in jail for the payments he made to cover up raping his wrestlers when he was a high school coach.

.... There are more but I reached the post length limit.

Yo u/tiberius_regulus! Why are you ignoring this post?

I'm not ignoring it. I didn't see it in my inbox. That said, it's one hell of a post and this issue has nothing to do with partisan politics. It's systemic in the government. People from all "sides" are guilty of this atrocity whether wittingly or unwittingly..

Thank you for the response. Unfortunately this issue is primarily framed under "Pizzagate", which is purely a partisan attack. It's important to detach the issue from propaganda.

You're welcome and I do agree. Many of us who were trying to bring this stuff to light had no intentions on framing it into partisan politics/attacks.

It appears to have been hijacked/co-opted just like many topics by design I suppose. Which is a damn shame for all of us who are looking for the truth and wanting to inform others of it. Many of us just want truth and justice. That's our only motive and it crosses all "sides". Like I said, I don't believe in that partisan nonsense. I just want the truth and see justice served.

Have a good one!

No and as you laid out, it goes way beyond one single person or pizza place. That's the point many of us were trying to get at. It's systemic in society, industry and government. Good post and thanks!

Awesome

The Podesta e-mails piqued my interest, but it was looking into events like The Presidio, Jerry Sandusky, Boystown/King, midnite White House tours, Jimmy Saville, The Finders, DynCorp, ad infinitum, that convinced me of the larger pedo-gate. Almost all of the material that convinced me of the larger pedogate happened before '08 ^{and Hillary's first fail}

Over and over and over again there are wayyyyyyy more people implicated than charged or even investigated. Just from Boystown, cross-referencing testimony to eliminate duplicates still ends with over 400 individual clients/johns. The only person prosecuted was King and that wasn't even for anything pedo.

For me, the non-prosecutions and non-investigations are the dog that didn't bark.

And as far as the larger pedo-gate and there being some sort of organized infrastructure controlled by the CIA, how is that so hard to accept as a possibility? The CIA helped bring heroin and cocaine into the U.S. The CIA was dropping off crates of guns on Chicago street corners in the '80's. Besides the crap the CIA has done in their own country, the CIA operates black sites and relies on both extraordinary rendition and blackmail. Its not a big moral leap from everything else the CIA has done to supplying kids to fuck. Many regions the CIA operates have traditions of child-brides and child fucking. The CIA has proven themselves amoral about acquiring influence in every other criminal activity so there's no reason to believe the CIA supplies children to fuck. Its possible the CIA isn't supplying to children to fuck, but there's also no reason to believe they aren't.

What a great fucking comment.

One thing keeps following the other. If the CIA supplies kids to screw, who in the CIA would know about it? GHWB was director of CIA. Interestingly, the CIA operated bigly in Arkansas. While Bill C. was gov. And subsequently became POTUS.

If the CIA is any way involved in the pedo business, even without Haiti & CF, there's more reason to believe something like pizzagate exists and the Clintons are involved than not.

There's also no reason to think our TPTB are any less sadistic than TPTB of previous societies or eras. Caligula-level carnal indulgance can be had for less than a hundred million bucks. Dubai's whole economy is based on access to Caligula-menities.

From a means, motive and opportunity stand point, the general idea of both pizzagate and pedogate have merit.

...'Has Merit' is an understatement considering the factual evidence available. If there has ever been an offense worth being executed for, it has to be pedophilia? If we can't or at least aren't willing to protect children from pedophiles, then we deserve to get fucked as a nation. Prove me wrong!

Murder sanctioned by the government is wrong and I would hope conspiracy theorists don’t agree that giving the government to power to murder people is one it should have considering how corrupt people say they are all day.

Yeah I'm not into that...

But you can toss these pedo guys in jail and they'll get what they deserve anyway.

I wish I could write like that... please do go on! :)

I think over time more people will come around to this basic understanding. People like us who understand this grave possibility need to gently, but firmly explain the position, just as you did, often.

Fiona Barnett said it's run by Luciferians in the Pentagon, who made her a child sex slave at a U.S. military base in Australia.

Paul Bonacci said Larry King got his orders from Offutt AFB, where King was waived through the gates without ID.

Marc Dutroux victims pointed at NATO HQ in Belgium.

CIA doesn't have their own upside-down Pentagram HQ, and they weren't important enough to get attacked on 9/11. Who runs who, CIA runs Pentagon or Pentagon runs CIA? Q wants Pentagon considered "not corrupt" but attacks CIA. Trust the Pentagram.

I simplified the power structure bigly. I don't think the CIA is a monolith. There's different power structures within all the alphabets. Alot of those power structures overlap as well. Mapped out, it would make for awesome /r/dataisbeautiful porn.

And that's all independant of the Q narrative.

There is more than one Deep State, and they are transnational, not American. There is a CIA within the CIA.. But the Pentagram has the money.

SPACE is international. Who signed Antarctica treaty because they know why they signed the Antartica treaty, and who signed because "just sign it."

The interviews with the Hampstead kids was an eye opener for me.

this, and lol at the quick "Debunking" that they made it all up cause their mom told them to. Like really? Those 1-2 hour long testimonies? The girls story especially she was pretty knowledgable and enthusiastic to explain.

Love to see dyncorp called out by name. I also took a deep dive into them when George starting talking about their organization. Some downright bizarre stuff there such as company "parties" involving inappropriate behavior with under age boys. This was discussed in the WL emails. My theory on that is they are the civilian contractor company that works closely with the agency to transport their various black market cargos around the world. I mean you gotta use someone because you wouldn't use your own agency guys for that right?

Also another high profile name you didnt mention on your list that was also connected to the DNC+Podesta ect that was also mentioned by name in the WL emails was former Speak of the House Dennis Hastert. Internal comms revealed that they joked with one another that, "maybe it was time for Denny to bug off to that undisclosed Japanese Island" in response to sexual abuse claims which he had already paid hush money for.

Hmmmmm

CEO of DynCorp is Trump advisor

He also said if DynCorp employee names are made public, saidemoloyee would be killed

Thinking hes due for his fair trial

Interesting. Sounds like something the CEO of super shady organization would say. Not saying it didn't happen but purely for my own curiosity, do you have the piece that was reporting this?

Was it a not so vailed threat or was he trying to communicate that due to the sensitive nature of their work, essentially "blowing their cover" could cost lives?

That... feels threatening.

Researching DynCorp is what convinced me there's some sort of established, international infrastructure for supplying children to fck rather than a loosely knit group of sleezy individuals or regional gangs who occasionally trade with each other.

My personal POV is that the '90's saw corporate business practices start being applied to the pedo-commerce. Someone got the idea to treat the pedo-verse as a market. Expansion & supply logistics got the Wal-Mart/big-box treatment.

I was pretty surprised at the obviousness of the Denny Hastert stuff. Or, rather, it seems obvious what Denny is into once one becomes aware of who Denny hangs out with on his off time.

100% agree with you. Looking into dyncorp made me a believer of an evil, dark force which is something much larger at work here.

I also believe this is an age old practice that pre-dates the Romans. Powerful people or the upper echelons of society have believed it is there right to engage in these disgusting activities. For them, utilizing dyncorp in this way and getting into the business, sadly makes sense because the world wide demand is still rather high to this day. So they make money to line their pockets, fund black ops, a trading commodity for scumbags like the Saudis and well, you know... their own private parties.

Like you said about Denny and the friends he keeps; look into known associates of a given individual and the picture will become much more clear.

This why in afganistan none of thr troops are allowed to stop any of the ana from having little boy ass.

I saw that shit myself, first hand. The older guys would take the little boys into the port-a-jons and have their way with them. They'd just take turns. There was absolutely nothing we could do about it either.

Proves we live in an evil society. Purely designed evil.

What a sad excuse to help enable child sexual assault. “There is nothing we could do”

Bull. Shit.

Trust me, we said stuff every day. Threatened the guys who were actually doing the molesting. WTF did you want us to do? Kill the guys? Beat the shit out of them and get court marshaled? The brass all knew what was going on. They told us it is their culture and to butt the fuck out, pretty much. I’m sure you would have busted the whole thing up, though right?

Did you have a cell phone that allows pictures, video, and audio recording?

you obviously have no clue. You walking around with a gun hoping the guy you train isnt going to turn jihad and you want them to risk life career and safety over some random afghans that have been fucking kids for decades

Why not? Were you given direct orders to ignore it? I would have lost my mind in that situation.

YES its well known, the same as guarding poppy fields

Oh, there were things you could have done about it had the decision not been made by someone to ignore it. Whoever made that decision should be held accountable. Absolutely unacceptable.

Well obviously yes, we could have done something he we been allowed to do something....but we weren’t. They claimed it was cultural/religious and we were to fuck off if we had a problem with it.

Just to clarify.... I wasn’t blaming you. I understand how the military works.

I saw that shit myself, first hand. The older guys would take the little boys into the port-a-jons and have their way with them. They'd just take turns. There was absolutely nothing we could do about it either.

They are just carrying on the Ancient Greek tradition...speaking of which, wasn't pederastry always part of ancient greek society...and isn't our government and culture built on the backs of the ancient greeks??? Many of the scientists and philosophers we were taught to worship in our textbooks like Aristotle, Socrates, Pythagoras and Plato were all boy lovers. Hmmmmm....

Well that makes sense considering all the pedos in high positions these days.

coulda just shot the sick motherfuckers and let the chips fall where they may...

Where the chips would have fallen is either my ass getting shot, or ending up in Leavenworth for the rest of my life - so no thanks.

not having a pop at you my dude...not sure I coulda coped with seeing that shit tho.

Well written!

Intro read for those who wish

Don't for get the Dunblane massacre.

Hamilton had so many strange links to people of power.

Speaking of the CIA, I read somewhere that the brothers that did the Boston Marathon bombing are the nephews of a man that married the daughter of a high ranking CIA agent.

https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-graham-fuller/

Love Corbett

Thank you.

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7mqgeu/boston_marathon_bombing_red_pill/?st=jm16kfjb&sh=90f2bc14

Never forget Gary Caradori

Laura silsby is sketchy af

Ikr, who the hell would hire her to flip hamburgers after being caught trafficking children?

Alert Sense is sketchy af too

Alert Sense is the private company that provides the messaging technology for Amber Alerts, because apparantly the US government can't figure out how to do it themselves

The FBI having jurisdiction over kidnapping (human trafficking) allows the FBI to facilitate and coverup human trafficking, and AA are a way to impede response, not a way to expedite response.

Did you know they won't issue an AA unless they have a valid license plate number?

Want to kidnap a kid and not have an AA issues? simply hide your plate number

Unbelievable

I agree that this is a solid comment, and I've had the same thoughts myself.

But there is a problem with this kind of thinking that no one on this sub ever wants to address because when this sort of question gets front-loaded, it leads to downvotes galore.

The question is, what is the scale of CIA involvement? If I were to believe every post on this sub, then every single public figure that any poster happens to dislike is a rampant pedophile controlled by the Deep State. To believe that, we also need to accept an operation that is truly massive in scale, involving most or all of the agency.

The problem is, the CIA and NSA have a generation divide going on right now. They can't keep secrets anymore because younger agents (such as Edward Snowden, as an example) have been raised with a very different idea of what is and is not acceptable when it comes to defending the homeland. Many of the people who initially seek to join these agencies see themselves as patriots.

Small scale strategic blackmail of a few individuals, that I can believe. Easily. But to believe that an entire agency is running such a massive operation like pedogate leak-free in an age of leaks is beyond my ability to envision. Pedophilia is universally reviled in the west and against the core values that make a person wish to serve their country in the first place. You would have agents who could not justify such actions. Even if you could keep the secret contained, the amount of stress that would place on an AMERICAN agency with American citizens making up its ranks and the risk of public discovery would outweigh the gain of having a few political figures in your pocket. Besides which, the Intel agencies have plenty of ways to control and bamboozle politicians. That has never been a particular challenge for them.

what is the scale of CIA involvement?

Despite what my comment history suggests, I don't doubt the overwhelming number of people in the alphabet agencies are decent people who would be sickened by any sort of pedo involvement.

But how many people totally in-the-know does it really take to manage such an operation? The alphabet agencies compartmentalize everything. 9/11 was able to happen. JFK's hit has gone unpunished. WMD's & Iraq. The scale of those atrocities automatically makes normal people shy away from conspiracy accusations because no normal person wants to believe fellow countrymen would purposely do such a thing.

Jerry Sandusky is a good example of people turning a blind eye. Assistants literally walked in on Sandusky with his dick in little boys but didn't say anything. Those assistants were chosen for their football skills, not their willful-ignorance abilities. An organization like the CIA is built around knowing peoples' psychology.

As for scale, the CIA/govt. just needs control of a few people at key points in the supply chain. The CIA/govt doesn't manage the entire Latin American drug trade; they just control a relatively few key people.

There's also the by-product compartmentalization of operations. On top of being a good counter-intel strategy, compartmentalization has an institutional effect of keeping employees from being sure of what their actions are contributing to. Those who join the alphabet agencies generally have a "team player" ethos and are reluctant to judge their own. Keeping that sort of person uncertain means gives that person a way to avoid coming to an uncomfortable conclusion about their "tribe". Most of us used the same psychology on our parents when we were teenagers :)

Writing this, it occurs to me, what has the CIA ever really gotten in trouble for? What legal penalties have CIA employees ever really paid? Sure, the CIA might get bitch-slapped at some budget meetings, but for all the fucked up shit the CIA has done, what agents, employees or operatives have found themselves in a U.S. court for doing fucked up CIA shit? As far as legal history goes, there's little legal disincentive for CIA operatives not to engage in fucked up CIA shit. Wait long enough and a movie will get made glorifying whatever fucked up CIA shit was done; i.e., how CIA agents bringing South American coke into the U.S.

Of course, means, motive and opportunity are definitely NOT proof. But, from my POV, it seems like there's way more motivation for an org like the CIA to get involved in supplying children to fuck than there is to stay out of the child fucking business. Just looking at the CIA/govt's history, there's way more reason to keep the possibility open than to assume the CIA wouldn't be involved.

abolsutely.

i'm more knowledgable about the UK element of this tbh but yeah....totally...

saville, dutroux, sidney cooke et al in UK / Europe...and i think maybe the OCCK 'gang' (starchild) and others in the US were providing children to the intelligence services for use as blackmail traps for politicians, military men etc.

when you drill down deep it's pretty obvious what was going on.

What I would give to be that articulate... great post, thanks!

yes

I read the scan of the newspaper incuded in the link and i cant seem to find where it mentions children prostitutes/sex slaves. Could someone show me where this 1989 scandal of homosexual prostitues and child sex trafficking connects ?

Pizzagate is real. The best video explaining it is called "PIZZAGATE - A PRIMER". It is constantly censored on youtube, so here it is on bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/video/nbMX3SuxvTCi/

wow i’ll be remembering this one. great presentation.

I talk about the Franklin Scandal a lot in my book heres the chapter

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https://www.wanttoknow.info/mk/liftingtheveil#12

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It is certainly one of the cornerstone cases of elite pedophilia.

Anyone who believes that Pizzagate is bigger than Pentagon Pedogate doesn't read much Dave McGowan, doesn't know that the Pentagon's budget is bigger in 1 (One) year than the entire Clinton Foundation history, and doesn't know how many military bases the U.S. military operates worldwide. Doesn't know that the Franklin Scandal's pedo ring was run by Larry King out of Offutt AFB, doesn't seem to care that this was long before allegations against Alefantis, and will prevail because Q followers won't sacrifice the Pentagon pedos. Because Q says that military intelligence (the Pentagon) is "the only part of government not corrupt".

http://archive.is/WjFaw

Dave McGowan wrote:

In the Fort Bragg case, “allegations of ritual abuse erupted ... in 1985 when several children at the Jubilation Day Care Center said they were sexually abused by a number of people at the day care center and at several locations away from the center, including at least two churches.”Aquino was identified as having been at one of those churches.

The Mercury News also reported that there was clear evidence of satanic cult activity on the grounds of the Presidio base, including an abundance of satanic graffiti, a satanic altar, and numerous artifacts of satanic rituals. A former MP at the base is quoted as saying: “We were sitting there, we've got a cult on the Presidio of San Francisco and nobody cares about it ... We were told by the provost marshal to just forget about it.”

As disturbing as the Presidio case was, it was just one of many ritual abuse cases directly tied to one or more branches of the United States armed forces. As the Mercury News reported: “By November, 1987 the Army had received allegations of child abuse at 15 of its day care centers and several elementary schools. There were also at least two cases in Air Force day care centers,” and another in a center run by the U.S. Navy.

In addition, “a special team of experts was sent to Panama [in June of 1988] to help determine if as many as 10 children at a Department of Defense elementary school had been molested and possibly infected with AIDS.” Yet another case emerged in a U.S.-run facility in West Germany.

These cases erupted at some of the most esteemed military bases in the country, including Fort Dix, Fort Leavenworth, Fort Jackson, and West Point. Many of those making the accusations were career military officers who had devoted their lives to unquestioned allegiance to the U.S. armed forces. Many would resign their posts in outraged protest.

The Times Herald Record reported in June of 1991: “The incidents [at the West Point Child Development Center] unfolded against a backdrop of satanic acts, animal sacrifices and cult-like behavior among the abusers, whose activities extended beyond the U.S. Military Academy borders to Orange County and a military base in San Francisco, parents charged.”

The case first broke in July of 1984, when a three-year-old girl found herself in the emergency room of the West Point Hospital with a lacerated vagina. She told the examining physician that a teacher at the day care center had hurt her. The next month, the parents of another child leveled accusations of abuse at the center.

As the Mercury News reported: “By the end of the year, 50 children had been interviewed by investigators. Children at West Point told stories that would become horrifyingly familiar. They said they had been ritually abused. They said they had had excrement smeared on their bodies and been forced to eat feces and drink urine. They said they were taken away from the day care center and photographed.”

Despite abundant medical and psychological evidence, and literally dozens of child witnesses, and despite “950 interviews by 60 FBI agents assigned to the investigation, an investigation led by former U.S. Attorney Rudolph Giuliani produced no federal grand jury indictments,” according to the Herald Record.

The Herald also noted that: “In 1987, Giuliani said his detailed investigation showed only one or two children were abused.” This was, it should be noted, a bare-faced lie, as the Herald report divulged: “a still-secret, independent report -- produced by one of the nation's top experts on child sexual abuse -- confirms the children's accusations of abuse.”

This was not the first time that the prestigious academy had shown an appalling willingness to overlook extreme levels of abuse directed at children by army personnel. A year before the abuse case broke, a 22-month-old child was murdered by an Army staff sergeant. The Mercury News reported that: “After a court martial hearing, the sergeant was given an 18 month suspended sentence and dishonorable discharge.”

In other words, he served no time and was essentially given a free ride for murdering a child. With help from Giuliani, the FBI, the U.S. Army, and the grand jury, the abusers of countless children at the day care center (which was, appropriately enough, building number 666 on the academy grounds) were likewise given a free ride.

Who is "Q"?

Cheney

Sorry. Looking for a TL; DR as I have never heard of "q anon" before. What does he do? What is all the hubbub? Whats the 411?

Q, or "Qanon" is a poster on 4chan who claims to be an insider in the Trump administration. His evidence for being so is easily disprovable, but some Trump supporters have eaten it up. Q claims that Trump knows exactly what he's doing, and that he is "draining the swamp" - clearing out the US government of all corruption, which includes the coverup of pedophilia. Q posts what are supposed to be cryptic messages on 4chan that followers try to decode and interpret. None of the messages make any sense, and neither do the interpretations. The messages are vague enough that they can be tied to any somewhat important event as proof that Q is who he claims.

The main subreddit for following Q activity, /r/thegreatawakening, was banned yesterday for harassment. You may have heard of this.

Is this the same guy who was supposedly in the FBI who posted all of the "insider information" about events which never came to fruition before the election?

No. Q's first post was a photo of the view out of AF1 and he used a word that appeared in a tweet Trump made a minute later. The only problem was that there was debate over which came first - the tweet or the 4chan post. Initially, everyone was so willing to buy into Q that it was being said the post came first. However, after the initial hype died down, it was shown that the post came after the tweet. Furthermore, in follow-up image proof, it was shown that the images were edited.

See I don’t follow Q but just the whole MIC is the only not corrupt part of the government is so fishy.

Why r/greatawakening got banned is a mystery to me tho then, it seems like TPTB would have an invested interest in keeping fake prophets to muddy the conspiracy waters, but who knows Alex Jones just got banned too & he was def a psy op so who knows their agenda at this point, all ik is it seems to get stranger and stranger by the day

he was def a psy op so who knows their agenda at this point

Maximize social tension, exploit divisions. This is a military tactic in psychological operations called the "Strategy of Tension"

http://web.archive.org/web/20061020222308/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_of_Tension

Anyone who refuses to believe pizza/pedogate simply hasn't done the research. The deniers obviously haven't looked into it and probably just see the term pizzagate or something as a complete joke and/or absurd. But you cannot look at that mountain of evidence and at the very least know something is very off about the whole thing.

Pizzagate is one thing that probably could have brought the entire system down. A few examples of what gives it credence alone would be the fact that r/pizzagate was shut down for a bullshit reason, Ben Swan after doing a skit basically vanishes over night from all social media and his video being heavily censored, the false flag at comet, just to name a few. I mean fuck, did these deniers look at all the weird art, odd pictures with kids, and just overall weird shit that happens at the comet ping pong and think it's not at the very least fucking weird? Makes me sick to my stomach these people going through great lengths to say it's fake just because nothing has really come from it. You think TPTB would allow something like this come to light knowing it could single handily bring the world to it's knees?

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Pedogate stuff is very sensitive, and just overall dark. The average person doesn't wanna know something like this could exist, or that the government/Hollywood could be involved in such a thing. It's easy to deny it, just on the fact of how crazy it sounds. Something is going on. Something dark. And it involves the thousands of children that go missing every year. Whether it's organ harvesting, drinking children's blood, trafficking. Massive profits to be made. That an the fact that their are creepy fucks in positions of power.

Anyone who refuses to believe pizza/pedogate simply hasn't done the research.

1. Define "pizzagate".

2. What evidence for it can you show here?

The pizzagate evidence was flimsy, but the very real, highly orchestrated "debunking" by multiple sources (and continued opposition) makes me believe there is something.

There's little evidence of a crime, but huge evidence of a cover up.

This is such a bullshit argument. "So much effort put into discrediting flat earth, so there must be something to it!"

Really. I've not seen stephen collbert or the nyt debunking the flat earth theory.

Journalists were warned not to investigate and only say that pizzagate has been debunked.

Pizzagate was scrubbed from reddit.

The coordinated and continued reaction and attempt to stage manage this conspiracy theory is at the same level as 9/11 or JFK.

Why use an obscure case when the catholic church fits both scenarios perfectly?

Exactly. This is provably widespread within so many institutions-politics, the church, etc. but the general public is not going to be persuaded to focus on it when there's so much emphasis on this one DC restaurant scenario.

If everyone took a moment to look at Family Watchdog, it shows a quick and simple map and profiles of all the convicted and registered sex offenders near you or anywhere else. It’s scary finding out how many there truly are. The fact that people in the government or the entertainment industry are not exempt is not a surprise or a conspiracy. They are practically everywhere, even probably in this sub as well.

That's why Pizzagate seems like a distraction, why is their no catholicgate?

Right? There are multiple provable cases, where some victims actually won court settlements and there are other accusers willing to come forward and some perpetrators actually were tried and some jailed, but other perpetrators or the institution could still be held liable.

But those only get brought up as 'proof that pizzagate could exist'. It's ridiculous.

There are snakes all over and we have snake traps but hey, lets set up snares for snipes because the fact that we have snakes means we could have snipes. Never mind the fact that snakes are biting the shit out of our kids in the meantime.

No matter who you are you at least have to admit Podesta was referencing something not Pizza for the numerous times he used the word "Pizza"

Nobody talks about Pizza THAT much especially in email

Actually he mentions pasta, chocolate and burgers as much as he doesn’t pizza. Beer is mentioned significantly more. It’s this kind of ridiculous reasoning that discredits pizzagate.

Theres no proof, but the phrasing is certainly abnormal.

"Pizza for an hour"

"Map that seems pizza related"

There's nothing wrong with "pizza for an hour". Nor is there anything particularly strange about a pizza related map. The whole conspiracy theory rests on pretending a certain word means something entirely different to what the word means. There is zero evidence that John Podesta or ANY of the public figures involved in the numerous emails have had anything to do with any kind of child molestation operations. Pizzagate believers take the total lack of evidence as evidence of some conspiracy to not investigate, it's impossible to argue against such illogical reasoning.

I could accuse YOU of being an elite paedophile, if you say there's no proof then I can just claim you're using your elite status to cover it all up. The more lacking the proof is the more corrupt and powerful I can claim you to be.

There is certainly a large amount of circumstantial evidence, but I agree there is no proof.

Not from what I've seen, what I see is a lot of people having already decided that John Podesta molests children, then twisting every little thing under that light. Emails from grandparents talking about having fun with the grand-kids is suddenly some perverted sex party with kids. Parents mentioning their children's age is suddenly a catalogue of merchandise. Any pictures of kids with adults is seen as pictures of victims and their abusers.

Without any solid proof, there is a whole community of people who dedicate their time to harrassing John Podesta and threatening his life. Seriously, go look at his twitter. Almost every single comment is either harassment or death threats. All of this without any solid evidence, not a single link to a real crime. These people aren't interested in protecting children, they are interested in harassing their political adversaries.

Of course he's not obliged to, but Podesta could make all (most) of those critics disappear just by addressing their comments.

Considering that he's a PR mastermind, he's not doing a good job on himself.

You honestly believe, looking at the posts like the ones here, that there's ANYTHING Podesta could say to the lynch mob that would convince them otherwise? I don't think so. These people have convinced themselves that Podesta is a demonic child raping murderer. Literally nothing anyone can say, especially not Podesta himself, can possibly cause "most" of them to disappear. You're literally telling someone to try to reason against their lynch mob.

I take your point. 2 years later, minds won't be changed.

He should have made a statement / held a press conference early on. It astounds me that we saw no direct damage limitation from him.

What would Podesta say that would make you believe his innocence?

"I am not and have never been involved with pedophilia. The emails where we are talking at length about pizza, were indeed genuinely about pizza. Comet pizza does not have a basement and I invite anyone to come in and take a look"

Would that suffice or would you need something more?

Yes. A bit of extra context explaining some of the stranger emails would remove a lot of the guesswork.

For example, take a look at this excellent justification for "Wetworks". A few more explanations like that directly from Podesta would satisfy a large number of people (although never everyone).

Why would I have to admit that?

The elite have a pedophilia problem because people with criminal perversions are easy to blackmail into behaving as one's puppets.

Entrapment

I don't believe in pizzagate because the're no verifiable evidence for it and the evidence that has been presented is either made up-bullshit or has nothing to do with it.

Out of interest, what evidence you've seen do you deem made up and irrelevant?

The "code words" for example which someone made up on 4chan and are being paraded as authentic.

Not only that but there's a reason they're code words, because people actually use those words in conversations about those topics.

The "basement"

What bugs me is when people say "all these other pedophiles got caught, so pizzagate must be real" when there's no evidence linking pg to any other cases and the only evidence for it itself is circumstantial at best.

What bugs me is that they insist on calling it 'pizzagate'. Chile trafficking and abuse has been going on far longer than the Podestas or Comet PingPong existed and clinging to this silly name does not help get anything investigated or taken seriously.

Psy op

Oh really don’t have to go too far beyond Jeffrey Epstein, billionaire convicted pedophile who owns a private island called Orgy Island and who spends his time with royalty like Prince Andrew, politicians including Bill and Hillary Clinton, and actors like Kevin Spacey. All who coincidentally have OTHER close relationships with OTHER convicted or credibly accused predators.

No mention of Trump in that list at all.

Because this guy is on the Trump train and will never question Trump, ever. It's always the other side. You can o ly be skeptical of people not named Trump. It's sad but so many people are this way.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/alexander-acosta-trump-jeffrey-epstein-plea-235096

In before, FAKE NEWS!

Epstein was co-defendant on Trump rape lawsuit

https://i.redd.it/yjt9xyx9nk701.jpg

https://i.redd.it/vn4fbijvnk701.jpg

Epstein runs honeypot/brownstone ops, and is an FBI informant and Mossad asset

https://i.redd.it/p9zggxev8vz01.jpg

And Donald Trump. How could you forget him on purpose?!

Because they do that on purpose. This sub is pro-Trump and ignores everything about how Trump IS a pedo elite himself.

Remember reddit is one of the most heavily manipulated sites on the internet.

Easy-E talked about your mother being on his tip

Was he just boasting or ?

I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.

• Donald Trump, 2002

Sure call out the Clintons for being friends with Epstein. Don't forget that trump himself called Epstein a terrific guy:

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

If this exists, it's not a Republican/Democrat thing, and trump is involved as well. I mean, look at the post--it's a Reagan/Bush thing! And Jimmy Saville was friends with arch-conservative Margaret Thatcher!

Also, Trump declined to testify against Epstein.

If he witnessed Epstein being inappropriate toward underage girls and 'banned him from MarALago' over it, (even though there are photos of Epstein all chummy with Trump for years after that supposedly happened). Why would he not want to get this guy behind bars?

Yes Trump knows Epstein. They ran around in the same circles for a while. Trump later banned Epstein from his properties because of complaints from a pissed off parent who said Epstein was creeping on his daughter

I'm sure you already know this, so the question is, what's your motivation for ignoring it ?

http://google.com/search?q=Trump+Ban+Epstein

Lol Trump never banned Epstein, he loves the guy

Source?

why did he decline to testify against Epstein then? youd think if some creep was stalking around your daughter youd do anything to put him behind bars, unless ya know youre friends and also a creep.

dont make this political.

You are telling me not to make this political? I literally said, "it's not a Republican/Democrat thing". The guy I was responding to was attempting to make it into a political thing by tying the Clintons to Epstein while somehow forgetting to mention trump who is involved just as deep if not deeper than the Clintons. Why didn't you call out the guy I'm responding to?

you support democrats right?

Lets not forget the large pagan shrine on the island

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSJI_qfI-es

Why does everyone try to look so deeply into this when all they need to do is go to their local Archdiocese to find it.

I guess it "could" be real but its very clearly just a lie meant to smear Democrats. And the people who continually push it are only hurting real abuse victims by turning their pain and suffering into a lie for political gain.

I’m always interested to hear people call other’s taste in art as creepy and use it as “evidence” that someone is a pedo.

How come none of you scrutinize the actual artist? Surely if you think Gavin some picture or sculptures on the wall is an indicator of being a pedo, the artists themselves are even more “pedo.” Not once have I see folks here accuse the artists.

Hasnt studied history*

Child molestation and even killing has happened for thousands of years in a ritualistic manner.

It never stopped.

True

The one thing about “pizzagate” that disturbs me the most is that we have proof of pedophilia in the catholic church, hollywood, and the British house of lords, yet so many brainwashed Americans find it impossible to conceive that maybe, just maybe, their leaders are engaging in this too. And because one loon decided to shoot in a pizza parlor, just expressing the above opinion makes you just as nutty.

Anyone who refuses to believe pizzagate is real has not spent any time actually looking into it.

"Could be" real and "is" real are two totally different things.

Child sexual abuse is a real thing and there is plenty of hard, damning evidence to prove it is widespread and covered up by those in positions of power (the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal in particular comes to mind).

What is ridiculous is using fact, evidence-based history to prop up a conspiracy theory, with not a shred of physical evidence, that Hillary Clinton, Podesta, and the DNC ran the world's largest and most sophisticated child sex ring out of the basement of a Washington, DC pizza shop.

That is what "Pizzagate" is, and an attempt to conflate the two is a despicable attempt at using real, living, breathing (and sadly many dead) victims and the horrors they endured to prop up a partisan conspiracy theory which has, to date, not produced a single victim.

This trend is a way Zionists/hidden power control Politicians. After they have been filmed with children, they are forever under your thumb. By destroying the whole Network, they no longer have a firm grip in the horses they want to run.

I knew the Pizzagate investigation had hit on something real by the response to it. You don't have media companies and online platforms lock down discussion of something that hard without there being a reason.

The real story, in my opinion, of Pizzagate is that the pizza place was probably used as an abduction / trafficking front for the CIA to provide valuable assets who have sick sexual tastes the fix they want in order to cooperate - probably having lured those assets into pedo-traps to begin with for the sake of blackmail. The pedos in charge are probably allowed to run their own child trafficking on the side for profit / kicks so long as they provide for the CIA.

When I say "the CIA" I mean a very small part of it - a very close cabal - that have either convinced themselves that certain evils are necessary for a perceived greater good, or are specially chosen sociopaths who can conduct these darker-than-black operations without a conscience.

Pedogate : DNthecorner exposes the Trump Administration's contractor Cerberus Capital overseeing the separated immigrant children. Cerberus Capital is connected with child trafficking, prostitution, and abuse.

To be fair, the McCann kidnapper sketch was supposed to be two different renditions of the same person. They're definitely fishy though.

The US govt. is holding 12800 children in detention centers. What do you think is being done to those kids as we speak?

...or seen john podesta in those three clips ...

Both are real examples. And if an entity wants to hire 10,000 shills/bots to attack evidence of pedo-crimes, then it’s even more real.

Pizzagate has been specifically defined as satanic ritual abuse by democrats occurring only in the real or imagined basement of comet ping pong.

I actually had somebody yesterday bring it up out of the blue because they didn't like something I posted, and didn't have a counter point to what I'd said...

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One of the big things for me with PG is the amount of pushback. Colbert was one of the first big msm outlets to talk about it, and he did so by rattling off many incorrect assertions about PG. And then people subsequently find out he's close friends with Podesta.

Pizzagate isn't real tho. shit we got enough real shit without spiraling out over the fake shit just due to partisan hate. That's all I got out of pizza gate was that people are so partisan that they will ignore logic and common sense reason over partisan hate and slander whomever with ferocity if it fits their political viewpoint. In other words pizza gate wasnt about pedophillia. It was politics of the darkest order.

Pizzagate isn't real tho. shit we got enough real shit without spiraling out over the fake shit just due to partisan hate. That's all I got out of pizza gate was that people are so partisan that they will ignore logic and common sense reason over partisan hate and slander whomever with ferocity if it fits their political viewpoint. In other words pizza gate wasnt about pedophillia. It was politics of the darkest order.

due to partisan hate.

> That's all I got out of pizza gate was that people are so partisan that they will ignore logic

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You don't demonstrate logic yourself due to your hate for hate, lol

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What are you talking about.? Explain what i said wasnt logical or was hate.

You are too far gone, enjoy your hate filled life, lol

i hate pedos and hypocrisy so im all good oh and bullshitters. This should all feel familar.

if hating makes you feel better, whatever is clever.

pizzagate is fake that's all. The biggest largest longest international pedophile ring in history is the catholic church. And no one is burning them to the ground

Nice opinions you got there....

its true. Everyone knows it. Nothing is gonna change.

anything "could" be real

the thing was pizzagate wasn't real though. It was so easy to debunk it was embarrassing. what pizzagate taught me was that partisan politics is extremely toxic and the reason how pedo rings survive. the thing about pizzagate was it had no victims or accusers even. It was all fever dream political hate. The second you stop going on this right versus left thing you see it. Its like every preacher who gets busted,(pedo,Cheating,drugs, gay) every super anti gay politician is gay and Franklin, Dynocorp, are all what? THE ACTUAL government. Mostly republican in administration and service. Hasert et all. The fucking POPE for chrissakes. its so frustrating to watch everyone spin out on pizzagate but literally deny that Trump has closer relationships and history to actual pedos than Podesta brothers.

There was no try, shits fake. Tons of real shit right in front of you but lets waste time and energy on fake email larping at a pizza place cause of what exactly? Partisan politics. All it is.

my proof about what? what are you asking me to prove?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pizzagate

I just don't understand how this goes unspoken, unreported, unpunished. Those poor poor kids. Thank all that's good and holy that I've been able to protect my daughters so far in life.

monsanto = 666
pizzagate = 666
santa claus = 666

and so on... The english language was crafted very carefully, you should know this..... Gematria is not bullshit, it should be obvious to you that the parasites that be use it....

Nope. I don't know why it was removed but c'est la vie.

Sort of...

There's nothing mystical about it. But the elite believe in it, so they use it. Just like their secret handshakes and signs and tokens.

Exactly, given the other examples that exist around the world, pizzagate could be true.

But the elite believe in it

how do you know that?

No they did not. They just said there is no connection. Not that governmental pedophile rings are impossible.

Yes. A bit of extra context explaining some of the stranger emails would remove a lot of the guesswork.

For example, take a look at this excellent justification for "Wetworks". A few more explanations like that directly from Podesta would satisfy a large number of people (although never everyone).

you support democrats right?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pizzagate