should be easy to recreate then, right? The mythbusters did an episode where they allegedly debunked this, but i don’t trust them. Would love to see an independent source try to recreate and test this. You’d be a billionaire.... if it works.

His twin brother.

Ex twin brother

Once removed.

His brother is silent? Sitting on an Earth shattering technological breakthrough which would only require a live stream of him driving 5+ hours to prove had some validity?

I love you guys that believe the impossible

You’d be a billionaire.... if it works....

Which is a good argument for why it doesn't work.

... Or dead

You sound like you're typing right from the Shills For Dummies handbook. At least try and be a bit more imaginative.

I'm trying to imagine how you could claim to be able to make any internal combustion car engine run off of water, but I just can't. I guess I am not imaginative enough.

Eric Dollard & Jim Murray - look 'em up.

You’re right they do but not over woo woo science fiction.

Good one.

It is fairly easy. Mythbusters however have no interest in proving anything not even with a standard scientific method approach. If you will notice though they do confirm that you can run an IC engine on hydrogen alone.

Given this is true, you actually find it weird he was killed when he didn't sell the rights to it?
Timber industry did similar shit to Hemp years ago, smear campaigns.
You know how much money was going to be lost? Lives are expendable at the level of profit

And you know what? Right now hemp is coming back strong.

It is still below the surface, you have to look around, but many many people and companies are jumping in, investing and funding cannabis research and finding even more uses for it... to me it is almost embarrassing that anyone ever let it be outlawed.

Marijuana will be legal nationwide in Canada starting Oct. 17 2018 and sooner or later it will be legal worldwide. Beer companies are coming around, pharma is coming around... etc etc etc ...

The only people still against legal marijuana are those who are currently making money on it being kept illegal and they are about to be trampled under foot.

Legalization is finally coming around because they’re finally in position to takeover the industry. They needed to make sure there isn’t much competition.

100% agree with you....
For the most part real information can only be suppressed for so long.... especially in today's digital age.
It was more profitable to those at the top to keep it illegal, now they see the $$$ with it being legal....
such is the society we live in

If this thing was real, it still runs on deuterated water, not just normal tap water. I'm not very technical minded, but seems like his blueprints show some kind of converter to turn that water into deuterium water. I know the normal process is through distillation or electrolysis, both of which need a power supply. So the question is how can he do this with out any kind of power source? That seems to be an obvious and easy question to answer, yet nothing mentioned on his website.

The whole thing seems a bit suspect. They went through the effort of supposedly giving us the blueprints for his car, but no layman explanation for how it would actuslly work?

I looked into it, his conversion process (I think) used high voltage with almost no current. And it I guess just vibrated the water at specific frequencies to split it into hydrogen and oxygen. People always talk about it being zero point energy but it's plainly not if you are burning hydrogen.

It runs on tap water. Stan Meyers technology requires no catalyst in order to induce electrolysis.

Yes, but how does it actually do that?

While free energy/water powered cars would be awesome, I'd be happy if they let us have 100-300 mpg cars that are more than possible and have been developed, look up the Volkswagen 300 mpg car. Weighs the same and looks similar to normal sedans in America, with the difference being it gets 10x better gas mileage.

No reason we are still suffering 30 mpg cars with a 400 mile range.

Even that would cripple the oil industry. They can't let us have that freedom.

And then the gas only costs $35 a gallon

I think the title you posted is going to confuse people, since this isn't technically "free energy", as it is water based.

However besides that, it's a very unfortunate event and I would suspect there is plenty of truth within it. The stranglehold these giant fossil fuel energy companies have on our economy is still vast. It seems that solar and wind are gaining steam, but even there the whole thing is gaining only as much momentum as profit can be extracted from it.

I'd hazard a guess that there have been many inventors that had brilliant ideas to harness the energy from various parts of our planet and atmosphere, yet they have been silenced or killed.

Tesla already is a good example of this. I recommend everyone looking into his life story, his grand discoveries and promises of "free electricity" for all, which JP Morgan at the time did not desire to fund. "Coincidentally" later on Tesla's lab and all his research burned to the ground, as he lived out the rest of his life in poverty and obscurity, dying alone in New York, never able to realize his scientific genius to its full potential (despite the fact that he already gave us the building blocks for the functioning of modern society through his inventions - still I have no doubt there was plenty more up his sleeve).

Yah and the marines destroyed the wardencliffe (sp?) Tower

Extra ordinary claims require extra ordinary proof. Now if a concept appears to violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics, then the proof needs to be extraordinary. Forget the water, where is the energy coming from to power the engine. For gasoline that would be stored chemical energy. For a battery powered vehicle that would be electrical energy stored in a chemical state. For an air powered vehicle that would the compressed air that is. For a water powered vehicle that would be ???

Fucking hydrogen, chemical energy, do you think hydrogen doesn't burn?

Where do you think the fucking hydrogen is coming from? Hydrogen is tightly bound with two oxygen atoms in water and it takes energy to separate them. Where is that fucking energy coming from?

Energy is pulled from the quantum vacuum. This energy source is all around us and the most potent energy source we could tap. This concept has been fairly understood since the times of Nikola Tesla. https://youtu.be/eNU3MLqyzPk

Maybe that should be for some different discussion, I think when we were talking about Stan Meyer, we are talking about some form of electrolysis.

The energy source Stan Meyer was using taps into this quantum vacuum. I don’t think he designed his engine to work directly that way, but he created an over unit system where he got more energy output than the energy input into the system to start it. His “excess” energy output could be attributed to pulling energy from the quantum vacuum. His electrolysis engine works hand in hand with this concept of physics. Even our normal combustion engines for cars tap into this quantum vacuum but extremely inefficiently. The link I provided above discusses this briefly from Lt. Col. Thomas Bearden of the US Army.

No, it should be included in this discussion because zero point helps explain why the electrolysis being used requires less energy to break the molecules into hydrogen and oxygen. Without resonance you would just be using plain old electrolysis which requires a catalyst. If you study carefully you will see Stan Meyers discovery required no catalyst in order to create the effect

You can't extract energy from vacuum without paying it back almost instantly according to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. If you could then the half life of certain particles like the W boson would be much longer.

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle states you can’t know the position and speed of a subatomic particle at the same time because your observation of the particle to determine the position or speed will change the other parameter of those 2. I’m trying to understand what you mean. Could you elaborate on the relation of that principle to your first sentence? I’m not trying to chastise, just understand your point.

It's not just about position and momentum, the uncertainly also applies to energy and duration. The combined energy and duration of a quantum perturbation cannot be higher than Planck's constant, therefore they are extremely short lived and you can't extract work from them.

You are absolutely right that the widely accepted information on Planck’s Constant indicates you can’t generate a deviation of the normal path of a subatomic particle that gives you enough energy to extract. However, many physicists have contended with that assertion and I will provide some published articles below in the subject. I don’t want to get too technical trying to type equations here, but I would argue that you don’t violate any known laws of the universe by extracting energy from a quantum vacuum. It may be frowned upon to reference another reading to explain my point, but this short article linked first below does a good job summarizing the hypothetical scenario of extracting this vacuum energy.

http://www.checktheevidence.com/wordpress/2008/04/11/the-universes-storehouse-of-energy/

https://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0406/0406504v2.pdf

http://www.hubbertpeak.com/hubbert/energypower/

I would argue that you don’t violate any known laws of the universe by extracting energy from a quantum vacuum.

Nobody is arguing this, this is widely accepted scientific fact. In fact, nuclear fusion in the sun taps into the vacuum energy as part of its process. What you can't do is extract work, which is different from energy, and the kind of stuff that you'd need to power a car for example.

Many physicists and chemists have argued this. Nikola Tesla argued this. This is not simply my opinion because I don’t have a great enough understanding of it. My expertise is geotechnical engineering but many professional papers have been published over the past 100 years on this topic. It is subjected to disinformation and not widely accepted because it challenges many accepted truths in physics that we use every day in design of everything from circuits to building foundations. Work is energy. The change in kinetic energy of a system is equal to the net work done on the system.

In the link below, if you watch from 16:00 to 22:00, you will see a direct replication of one of Tesla’s experiments where he draws energy from this quantum vacuum and generates a flow of electricity that is vastly different from what the common person is exposed to daily in design or construction. If you touch a live or hot wire that is exposed in water, you will receive an electrical shock. In the replicated experiment, one can touch a live wire in water and receive no such shock. The entire video linked below is very long but the part I want to emphasize is from 16:00 to about 22:00.

https://youtu.be/1db-UqlBa8M

Many physicists and chemists have argued this. Nikola Tesla argued this.

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. The fact that you can pull energy from the vacuum is accepted and mainstream science nowadays. When you fuse protons together, one of them has to turn into a neutron by flipping one of its three quarks from up to down, which emits a W- boson. This W- boson is much heavier than the quark that emitted it. Where does the mass come from? It comes from the vacuum and is borrowed by a short time before it has to decay into an electron neutrino and a positron.

The other way to extract vacuum energy is via a black hole, although that causes the black hole to evaporate and I don't think you can fit one inside a car.

Also, I do not understand what does that circuit in the video has to do with vacuum energy. The electricity is coming from an electrical outlet. It doesn't shock you because it uses high frequency current which has something called the skin effect . Tesla was obviously a genius for discovering things like this but he was no quantum physicist, he didn't even believe in particles...

Pulling energy from a vacuum and harnessing it is not mainstream science. That does not mean it cannot be done or it has not been done. The replication of Tesla’s experiment in the video shows that the current is not normal AC or DC. If you choose to draw your energy from the outlet through a copper wire to a lightbulb and keep your wire exposed, it will shock you in water if you touch it. For example, unfortunately, people get electrocuted far too often on construction sites around the US every year due to power cords being exposed and laying in a small puddle of water. The experiment shows that the energy flow in the wire that the guy holds in the water is not what you normally observe in AC or DC circuits because it is not a normal current flow. I don’t see how this Tesla experiment is an observation of the skin effect. The skin effect simply states the largest concentration of current flow moves to the surface of a conductor when increasing your AC frequency. The conductor in the experiment is the live wire the guy is holding in his bare hands. Could you elaborate on how the experiment in the video displays the skin effect?

The battery, the device converts electrical energy into "water" energy it's an alternator, splitting h2o into hho.

How about a battery? There is energy in water, kind of like potential energy inside wood. A tree takes light to take carbon monoxide in the Air, spits out oxygen and uses the carbon to build itself. So when a tree is on fire, carbon and oxygen recombine and the process releases the stored energy of the sun as light and heat.

Extremely explosive hydrogen gas lol

i wonder what the plan is if/when fossil fuel runs out? A quick google search says our known coal deposits will run out in 2088, although im sure there are some unknown oil reserves in the deep sea.

But before then, i bet there will be a scarcity problem where anything that uses fossil fuels becomes expensive, given the area hasn't already converted to solar, wind, or electric energy.

Very interesting...part of me doesn't even want to contribute to the problem by buying a car, then again, a car is damn near necessary in many areas. When i graduated college, living with my mom was such a hassle because she lived in an area without public transportation and i don't have a car.

It won't run out for a long time. But it won't stop them from scaring you that it will so they can jack the price up.

I’ve heard if they crash tho it’s be veeeerrry dangerous due to hydrogen’s flammability

ITT: shitheads.

Why are people so goddam stupid when it comes to 'a car that runs on water!'. I swear its like everybody collectively parks their common sense and high-school physics knowledge at the checkout.

When are people going to get through their thick skulls that there is no inherent energy present/stored in water. You can split water into hydrogen and oxygen, but that requires.... energy! In fact it requires MORE energy to split it that you can get out of burning the hydrogen and oxygen. REQUIRES. MORE. ENERGY. Come on now, say it with with me: Requires. More. Energy.

And the common sense, FFS, if he wanted to earn money he would have taken the 'billions', if he didn't want to make money then why didn't he just release his plans? Well I'll tell you why! Because there ARE NO PLANS THAT WORK.

Don't be gullible, this is HIGH SCHOOL PHYSICS.

You think they paid attention in physics? Lol

This story has been out for so long. So and so has always had the plan and been killed- but really, Its just not there. Prove me wrong! please give free power and cars to us, you can't! If someone could just bridge the gap between a super jets sprite sponsorship we could all be eating cheese brats for gameday.

Everyone is stupid! It's easy to understand! Nothing to see here folks!

heres another conspircy.... all cars could run on alcohol. alcohol is cheap and easy to make and almost anyone could become a producer... smashing their monopoly.

At what cost per gallon?

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are you out there?

Yell free energy and the shills come running. Stanley Meyer found a way to cavitate the water allowing for the splitting of h2o into its constituent elements at energy levels far less than conventional electrolysis. The result was hydrogen production that had an energy potential much higher than the amount used to split the water molecules. The secret to everything is in vibration and frequency. The frequency at which he is pulsing electricity through the water is a key ingredient. Here's a presentation about it: https://youtu.be/pa2sjMN8sMc. As for all the shills screaming 2nd law or just straight up insulting this thread you can all eat shit. Im a graduated engineer and the physics we've been taught is watered down obsolete nonsense that's been compromised due to national security / policital reasons. Anyone yelling otherwise either knows about it, or is too stupid to figure out why they would hide technological advances like this.

Joseph Newman was also shut down in his efforts to bring the world free energy.

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I'll say this, after looking through the pdf. files in the water car link, he went through a shit ton of work and doesn't appear to be asking for money, so I'm inclined to believe there is something to all of this.

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There is no such thing as free energy. Go take a fucking physics class.

There's no such thing as a flying machine There's no such thing as invisible waves of energy There's no such thing as magnetic levitation There's no such thing as sonic weapons There's no such thing as an artificial brain O wait

none of those things violate any laws of physics.

Right go get some more education from the gubment. Surely they'll teach you the truth. After all why would they have any interest in not?

that stan meyer was a fraud, the car never worked, i have seen this many many times on this forum and you guys havent done your researches, the car never worked. it was a fraud, the guy was always looking for more money and nothing to show for it.

I disagree, to me, you are wrong. I offered as much evidence as you did.. B Despite all your researches.

look it up stan meyer was a fraud. as much as i would like him not to be a fraud. he was one.

the guy was sentenced for fraud in '96. had lame excuse so his invention wouldnt be reviewed. then died in a resto shouting he got poisoned and was just doing a reaction to something. his patents are now public domain and still no water cel car on the road. i think i said enuff

Nikola Tesla supposedly had plans for wirelessly transmitted energy, that you could tap into anywhere in the world, using the earth's electromagnetic fields as a conduit. If I am incorrect please correct me, hastily writing so I didn't pull up a source beforehand, just offhand. Either way, soon after beginning construction on the first tower in New York, his apartment was raided by the government.

To be fair he did have blueprints for a death ray that could blow up the moon, but his understanding of electricity and energy was far superior to his peers, even by today's standards. If I remember correctly, he supposedly had a successful wireless energy transmission between two of his labs in Colorado, with energy loss less than that of copper cabling, standard at the time.

I think you will like this video:

Infinite Energy, But Not For The Masses | Andrew Johnson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1db-UqlBa8M

Nice video

I agree, he covers a lot of ground in a realitive easy way.

I was aware of Steven E. Jones sabotage of Fleischmann–Pons work but did not know he had managed to ingrain himself into the 9/11 movement. I think if you can get past the Mormon connection his old Uni, Brigham Young University seems to do a myriad of experiments. I have come across more articles on alternate websites promoting some wacky invention or other over the last 10 years, from BYU than anywhere else. A part of me always figured theres a grain of truth, now I know for sure. You play a part in keeping the status quo by helping suppress that which would benefit humanity and tptb will throw a few nuggets as thanks. A shame as BYU is considered a joke tier academic estaishment, so are never taken seriously.