Have you heard of planned obselecance? (spelling?).

Shit nowadays is not only expensive but designed to fail. They're laughing at those who don't know these kinds of things. Do not be fooled, you gotta do your research and make sure it's quality sources from multiple people. Social media is a great place to get a consensus on something.

Apple was caught red handed doing this, no?

They were, indeed.

Still doing it btw

Of course they are. I'm sure they all are, in one way or another. Not just mobile phones either.

Mobile phones are a huge racket. They aren't more expensive now because they do more. They don't cost more to produce either. People aren't buying a new one every 2 years, so they are just charging more to make up the difference.

Apple is the most evil company ever. They screw around with the supply and manufacture fake demand. Why is it that when certain models preorder, you can get pushed back after the release day but they have them in stock at stores on release day? Why preorder?

Every time I've ever upgraded a pbone, I bought an older model Android of coworkers, friends, family. Reboot, unlock, root it, latest Android, and good to go. The Samsung I'm on now is 5 years old and loads faster than some of my co-workers newest phones

Your phone only loads faster because your coworkers install boomer tier anti-virus apps and phone booster apps lol

ROMs are very useful, too.

Are they? With what?

I've worked at verizon dealers for over 5 years. The iPhone sim card slots break as soon as 1 year into owning, i've seen faster. Every iPhone before that had same issue, supposedly it was fixed on the 5s. The software updates kill the battery and slow the processor. Older phones can't handle new software that was designed for the new model. One thing apple did better for years was software stability. I see so many unresolved issue now that it's disgusting. Can't tell you how many times their tech support said to me "known issue tell them to wait". A month later they're back with a different issue. Or the original issue never gets resolved and people give up and just upgrade. Sticking camera shutters has always been an issue. Bending is still an issue although now the glass just breaks. My iPhone 7 had an issue that's a common unresolved problem where texts get jumbled out of chronological order. My 6 plus had bluetooth problems. I've never owned an iPhone longer than a year because of software bugs.

FWIW androids are a little more stable in regards that the software is open source and you can troubleshoot a little deeper but the software updates do eventually ruin your battery no matter what phone you have. The note 7 was the best problem Samsung ever had, so much scrutiny around their batteries that all the future models have outstanding battery life, unless you suffer from Google play services issues.

Interesting take - and I appreciate the detail. I can't say I have experienced any of those issues myself, but obviously that doesn't mean they aren't issues. I'm not sure I agree with some of those points. But appreciate the point of view.

Which do you disagree with?

Well, I can't see how a hole in a phone can break. It does seem like software updates kill the battery, but then they issue an update that addresses the drain - it's not permanent. And don't forget they actually throttled seen on older phones so that battery life would be maximized. I did hear lots of issues with software reliability in iOS11. 12 seems to be working great for me. And glitchy software isn't exactly planned obsolescence - the software was glitchy even on the newest of phones. I don't know what you mean by sticking camera shutters - there is no physical shutter on the iPhone - its electronic.

It really sounds like you are refereeing to problems with the device, and not the planned obsolescence of a device.

As a counter point, I would argue Apple is designing devices to stay relevant longer. iOS 12 runs all the way down to the 5S I believe. That's not a current phone by any stretch of the imagination. Is the batter going to drain faster? Probably. But you would be running 2018 software on a 2013 device. That's pretty impressive if you ask me.

And something else to think about, there are SO many iPhones sold in the US alone that there are naturally going to seem like there are more issues. I might be making a few things up here but from what IZ remember Apple still outsells say Samsung in the US. Let's pretend its 3:1. Even if 50% of iPhones AND Samsung phones are returned, there are more iPhones with issues even though the percentage is the same.

You sound like you drink their koolaid lol. Would you rather have a snappy UI that runs as intended or the "new" software with a laggy phone that literally shuts off your phone because the battery isn't brand new (the update is literally shutting off people's phones, you have to turn it off under battery settings)? I don't really think it's that impressive, we've been doing this since Microsoft windows. If they wanted to impress me they could have launched the iPhone 5s with an LED display, 32gb standard capacity and bluetooth that will actually let you connect it to a phone that isn't an iPhone. It's pretty absurd that a flip phone has more bluetooth capability. How does one transfer contacts from a basic phone to an iPhone? You can't unless you find a store with a machine, and those are disappearing because they have to pay a license fee plus the equipment is expensive as well. You can probably use iTunes, but I thought the iPhone was presented as the device you can replace your computer with? Android devices don't run 5 year old software because it doesn't make sense. It's the same internet and same apps, and the only time you NEED new software is with new hardware.

It is planned, they got caught and the lawsuits will be flying. As people hold on to their devices longer this issue will become greater.

You can disable automatic updating in Android. You can also change your device's ROM to get newer versions with less and/or zero bloat (depends on your choice): as a boon, it also stops automatic updates (generally, LineageOS and other ones with such systems are exceptions).

Im running a stock verizon note 8 and i used odin to flash the unlocked version of the software. Only downside is i need to use verizon messages to use wifi texting. I don't get good service in my apartment so that's the only caveat.

October I'm done working for verizon and i lose my discount (can't beat half off unlimited!). I might switch but i live kinda in the boondocks, verizon for sure works.

Time for a new update that slows down my IOS.

Right. It's so annoying. New phones out so load down our current phones with new software that doesn't run well. Seems like Apple rarely had phone updates in the past. Now it's so much more frequent.

Apple had a new iOS every year. I heard a lot of people had problems with iOS 11 on older phones but the ones that tried the iOS 12 beta said it was a lot better. I think it is being released soon too. Hopefully it really is better.

Obsolescence, is the proper spelling. Completely agree with your sentiments, products just aren't made to last anymore.

Why is that word so hard to spell? They do that on purpose?

Definitely on purpose, when will the Dictionary Industrial Complex be stopped

Heres a fantastic podcast about it. https://www.thehighersidechats.com/the-lightbulb-conspiracy/

And a great documentary also - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdh7_PA8GZU

a great place to get a consensus on something

It depends on if the social medium is unbiased or biased. It also depends on its degree of control: too much, little, none, passing in between, etc.

I was using inkjet printers for a long time, going broke from buying ink and then one day I decided to try a laser printer. After using that for several years I wonder how I could be so stupid. Why didn't I buy a laser printer to begin with? The cost per print is around 3 cents while inkjet costs about 20 cents per print. Inkjet is a racket.

Laser is da wae

Yeah right?

I need to print color so rarely that when I had a color inkjet and needed to print color I had to replace the color cartridges for each job because the nozzles dried up between color prints. It's pretty damned expensive replacing color cartridges every time I needed to print a color photo or something.

Switched to laser and haven't looked back. If I need color I send the job to Office Depot, Walgreens or ask a friend with a 6 pack as a gift.

Yeah, printer ink cartridges on cost like 20 cents to make, and then further on they want you to buy new ones when you really don't need them. The reason for this is that most printers are sold at a value below what they cost to make, so all of their profit comes from the cartridges themselves.

have you watched this video by any chance?

Here is a link to a video that describes this exact conspiracy. The man explains that tech companies sell printers at a loss and wildly overprice ink cartridges in order to make their money back.

https://youtu.be/AHX6tHdQGiQ

This

Soap dispensers! If you engage the pump all the way it dispenses enough soap to wash your hands 8 or 9 times. The bastards.

Most expensive liquid on earth is cartridge ink, from what it costs to its retail. It's a scam

I think perfume comes in as second, LOL.

Laser printers are a great option. But there's also this one printer I know of where you refill its tanks with bottles of ink. The bottles are only like $10-$15 and have a fair amount of ink

Potato chips only fill up 1/3 of the damn bag! New cars barely last over 100k miles when old ones last 500k or more

Chips are sold by weight, not volume though, right?

Yes but they make bigger bags and fill then with air to appear more full

The air in the bag protects the chips from being crushed during shipping. It's not a conspiracy to trick you because you can just look, feel, and weigh how much is inside. It's to avoid selling you chips that have been smashed to dust.

Im more of a pretzel rod guy anyway

Buying an ink refill kit on Amazon for $15 ~3 years ago has saved me hundreds.

Link?

Try searching "ink refill kit" on Amazon and finding the one that fits your particular printer for the ink itself. They're all a bit different, but it was easy to find. The mildly tricky part was the cartridges themselves. I'm pretty sure I got mine from inkowl and this is the important part, because there's usually no way to refill the cartridges you buy in stores. They can be finicky - sometimes my printer says I'm out of black ink when it's half full, but taking the cartridge out and putting it back in usually fixes it. If not, refilling it does. I run a small business and I'm constantly printing shipping labels, and when I bought the kit my mom hadn't yet started nursing school. She's a year into her career now and I still haven't bought ink.

Thanks!

Um...

behold, the truth! A-MAZE-ING!!!! Thank you! I will pass the word :)

Is it still a conspiracy if it's a proven fact and just businesses trying to make more money by being evil?

Yes. Many conspiracies are proven facts that are businesses/people/institutions fucking people over to make more money by being evil.

An even better “printer conspiracy” is how all printers “secretly print out an invisible serial number that is unique to every printer (just like guns do with shell cartridges) and the purpose of this is so the the FBI, NSA, or whoever can identify where ransom notes and other type of documents came from.

Guns don’t do that, even though California wishes they did.

Hate to break it to you buddy but they actually do pretty much all guns leave a unique dimple in the shell casing that can be matched with the serial number of that gun.

I mean I can tell by the primer if it was fired from a glock due to the rectangular shape of the firing pin channel. Otherwise not much to differentiate them. I’ve shot thousands of rounds and reloaded about 15,000. There is nothing unique about the brass that I have, not even the range brass that was shot from multiple guns.

Lol 15,000 isn’t that much buddy. You could’ve fired 15,000,000 rounds and it won’t change the fact that you can’t identify what gun it was fired from, but federal and local agencies definitely can. Lol do you even actually own a gun?

15,000 is a conservative estimate of what I have reloaded using my brass and brass I have bought or traded for. I’ve owned guns for 25 years give or take and spend a lot of time at the range. What exactly, in your opinion is stamping the fired cases with information? The firing pin would be the most obvious choose and could be easily taken care of. The chamber could have a raised number etc but would be easily defeated with a chamber reamer or simple carbon buildup from lack of cleaning. The first company that could make this actually work would be getting their knobs slobbered on by the people in California that want the microstamping feature on handguns.

Lol I’m not even gonna waste my time Reading your entire essay. But you owned guns for 25 years and you still didn’t know you can match the dimple in the casing with the serial number? Lol go take some weapon training courses before you hurt somebody

Apparently you assume that dimples, which you never quantified, are the indentations in the primer from the firing pin. Those are not how the police match guns, the rifling will leave unique marks on the bullet as it is alway unique to the gun. You are making wild proclamations about something you don’t seem to be familiar with in the capacity you think you do. But hey, anyone can make up stuff on the internet.

No it literally is not. Lol that makes no sense at all, how does the rifling affect the shell casing? The rifling would only be useful if you found the actual projectile. Seriously buddy, go take a course.

Thanks for not reading. As I said the rifling leaves marks on the bullet. The brass casing is not marked in any substantial way that would distinguish them from many other guns. The primer is the only place that has any sort of dimple. Simple question, is the simple left by the firing pin the one you are referring to?

As to training, I have taken multiple courses, how many hours do I need before I can spout off bullshit like a Fudd at the gunshop counter?

You literally just agreed with me. Nobody’s going to bother looking for a bullet that’s been disintegrated when they already have an intact shell casing. This isn’t the movies

What bullets disintegrate? Frangible bullets will but plain ol cup and core bullets have a crazy ability to remain intact. I’ve recovered many bullets from the berms at my range and deer etc that worked like they were designed to and weighed close to what they did when they were I fired , usually off by 10 grains. Copper bullets are even less likely to lose weight much less be so deformed they can’t be identified. I think you have been watching too many movies. You are projecting and inflating your knowledge.

Even the print left on the base of the shell leaves a unique mark from the backshot before it releases the shell.

I'd need to fact check this but I've read that some printers and digital cameras are even designed to stop working after they perform their function x times. I think it was HP but not positive. Totally a conspiracy, though innocuous compared to a Dutroux or 911.

Yes. There are technician programs that were bought and then leaked that reset these counters. Canon and Epson do this too. Perhaps others.

Lol I’m not even gonna waste my time Reading your entire essay. But you owned guns for 25 years and you still didn’t know you can match the dimple in the casing with the serial number? Lol go take some weapon training courses before you hurt somebody

Here is what happened to me recently, I accepted an update to my printer and now it will not recognize the after market unbranded ink cartridges so no printing unless the printer brand cartridges are installed.

What brand/model? Help the people with the same one to avoid the update!

Yeah, like my 2 year old Epson ran out of cyan, has every other cartridge full of ink, but still won't print in fucking black and white

Ink for printers is the largest mark up for any product ever sold. The stat I remember was something like it cost the producer 0.23 cents and sells for over $50.

It is a joke that replacement inkjets cost more than I paid for the printer originally.

The thing that bugs me the most is there hasn't been any effective push to open source that class of hardware. The furthest community-based development seems to be on par with the rudimentary ink plotters of the late 1970's and early 1980's.

Meanwhile when it comes to 3D printing, everything is close to being on-par with the commercial offerings.

So how did the printer companies get such a tight lockdown on the tech, even though many of the patents should have expired by now? And it's not like there's a grocery list of reasons going against the commercial offerings that open source and community developed printers (and supporting software) could easily solve. (No junk software, and make the hardware robust and serviceable.)

Try searching "ink refill kit" on Amazon and finding the one that fits your particular printer for the ink itself. They're all a bit different, but it was easy to find. The mildly tricky part was the cartridges themselves. I'm pretty sure I got mine from inkowl and this is the important part, because there's usually no way to refill the cartridges you buy in stores. They can be finicky - sometimes my printer says I'm out of black ink when it's half full, but taking the cartridge out and putting it back in usually fixes it. If not, refilling it does. I run a small business and I'm constantly printing shipping labels, and when I bought the kit my mom hadn't yet started nursing school. She's a year into her career now and I still haven't bought ink.