Kavanaugh is looking more guilty the more information comes out. There was also the weird credit card debt thing.

looks like someone wants to ruin him from an outside perspective.

Dunno if you've seen this but it torpedoes your argument

Ronan Farrow, one of the reporters who broke the story of a second sexual misconduct allegationagainst Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, said on Good Morning America that "it is not accurate to say that those who knew [Kavanaugh] at the time dispute" that the allegation is credible.

https://www.axios.com/ronan-farrow-brett-kavanaugh-misconduct-denial-490c1789-dbd2-4aa4-9910-66b4360721d4.html

Did any of you go to high school/college and have experience with these kids of rich conservatives? If you did, you would know without a doubt these were the biggest group of openly rapist/sexist losers around. I don't love to generalize... but in this instance I know we have all seen it with our own eyes if we attended school in the USA.

Look into Stefan Molyneux's two recent videos about the subject. He does a great job pointing out the tactics that the MSM use in their stories in order to basically brainwash you to think a certain way.

Break away from the herd. What the left have been doing since Trump was elected is shady and sketchy as fuck. The lengths they've been going to to get people to believe their bullshit narrative speaks volumes.

Dems finally caught up to Republican tactics of swiftboating. Maybe they'll figure out a Democratic version of birtherism soon.

As a lefty, I don't like it, but i can't argue its effectiveness.

It's definitely not very effective. It's really pissing people off including Independents. Everyone can see this naked desperate attempt to keep a conservative off the court for what it really is.

Only if you don't believe in polling.

Those polls were so accurate in the last presidental election.

They were pretty close in terms of the country's popular vote. They were just off in terms of counting the electoral college.

Aggregates like 538 were accurate on the electoral college too. It's really only polls without taking account of past performance do you get erroneous predictions.

Yes, national polls were accurate to within ~2%

I think you are the brainwashed one.

Look into Stefan Molyneux's

Haha, yeah no.

It looks like the complete opposite. It looks like corrupt nasty desperate democrats trying to stall. It makes me sick. Any accusation can ruin a man now. No evidence no trial nothing.

She took and passed a polygraph. Kavanaugh, thus far, hasn't.
There is some evidence, and though I'd agree that what evidence there is doesn't pass the bar of "Beyond a reasonable doubt" nobody is trying to take Kavanaugh's freedom here.

There is no evidence. Every witness that she's named has denied her story is true.

Maybe they should testify, like Mr. Judge, if they have nothing to hide

They have. Their sworn statements to the Judiciary committee carry the same perjury penalties as testifying in court. Every last one has denied Fords BS story.

You’re claiming it’s bs without even seeing her testimony or allowing for an investigation? Bold move

Im claiming it's bs because it was held past the private senator meetings, past the closed senate meetings, past the open senate hearings circus, until just before the vote. Also because it intentionally left out any specifics to deny Kavanaugh the ability to refute it and clear his name. And because it's denied by every claimed witness. And there is zero physical evidence or contemporaneous documentation. It's a leftist smear. But you know that.

It sounds like you had your mind made up the moment it came out. There’s nothing wrong with allowing her to testify or even allowing the FBI to investigate.

They’re going to have to do something now with three allegations, especially from Ronan Farrow, on the table.

It's not an FBI issue for christ sake.

The FBI investigated Anita Hills allegations under the direction of President Bush, did they not?

Additional accusers doesn't confirm the 1st one, although thats what they'd like you to believe.

Looks like it's working

The fffff in yearbook and Avenetti not being wrong before are more convincing.

Avenatti not being wrong?

Are you serious?

How about you tell where Avenati turned out to be wrong in your own words?

Third woman coming forward. Kavenaugh old roommate believes accusers.

Not one of the witnesses that has been brought forward by the accusers themselves has corroborated their allegations.

Give it some time. Avenatti is a careful lawyer who does not make statements he can't back up.

Hahahaha

Michael Avenatti is a fucking moron

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/09/avenatti-michael-cohen-israel/

A minor mistake that no reasonable person would complain too much about.

He accused someone with no affiliation to Trump of receiving fraudulent payments, from companies that have nothing to do with Trump.

Not a minor mistake.

Also he has zero integrity which has been previously established.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/before-stormy-daniels-her-attorney-faced-allegations-of-dubious-business-dealings/

Keep sticking your head in the sand denying reality. Avenatti has delivered each time.

A third accuser and Mark Judge ex-girlfriend both tell similar stories about group rape.

You think all these people are lying? Or do you believe I-was-a-virgin-until-I-met-my-wife Kavenaugh?

If republicans hurry they can push through a decent person.

he “burden of proof” issue is the crux of the debate surrounding Dr. Ford’s accusations against Judge Kavanaugh precisely because she has produced no evidence to support her accusations against him.

She has no physical evidence, though that is unsurprising given that she is alleging a three-decades-old-crime.

More surprising, and more disconcerting, is the fact that the direct witnesses that she identified disclaim any knowledge of the crime she says they were present for; the fact that her therapist’s notes of her statements neither name Kavanaugh nor square with her other specific allegations; and the fact that Senator Feinstein herself did not pursue the allegations until after the regular confirmation hearings had ended and Kavanaugh was poised for a successful vote.

The allegation was conveyed to Democratic senators by a civil-rights lawyer. For Ramirez, the sudden attention has been unwelcome, and prompted difficult choices. She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away. Ramirez is now calling for the F.B.I. to investigate Kavanaugh’s role in the incident.

Ramirez told a number of friends that she still isn't sure Kavanaugh did it.

Avenatti has delivered nothing. Michael Cohen walked back the allegation that Trump knew about the meeting with Veselitskiya.

AND YES I THINK THESE PEOPLE ARE LYING.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO COUNTER THAT ASSESSMENT.

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

Do you understand how the justice system works in the United States?

Allegations without evidence should be dismissed without evidence.

Nobody is required to defend themselves against baseless allegations that have no evidence.

If its not clear to you that this is a sideshow to delay the confirmation, you need to open your eyes. An allegation with ZERO evidence, ZERO witnesses and ZERO corroboration should not and cannot halt a Supreme Court confirmation. Do you really even understand how absurd this whole thing has become? They are making a mockery of our country.

Multiple independent people are reporting similar behavior. If this was a democratic nominee you would want some investigation before he gets to be seated for next 40 years.

Plenty of people have been convicted on testimony alone. Memory from long time ago is unreliable.

Except her polygraph test and the letter she wrote to Feinstein don't even line up in terms of the details.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/26/kavanaugh-lawyer-responds-avenatti-gang-rape/

This entire thing is about to implode

Haha

This whole story seems completely astroturfed and completely fabricated.

Great post! I look forward to seeing what Ginsburg does and to see if something actually goes down while the populace is kept busy with this rubbish heap of a story.

Michael Avenatti tweeeted that his new client is not Deborah Ramirez which is the woman you are referring to.

His new client is another woman that has made an accusation against Kavanaugh.

Yeah there are 3. Not looking like a good week for Kavanaugh

With zero evidence other than their word, seems it'll be just fine. Accusations are not proof of anything.

They’re proof an investigation is needed. If he’s innocent, what’s the harm?

A simple allegation? There's no proof he did it. Meanwhile, there's a lot of proof he's innocent. The very witnesses she claims was there have ALL come forth to say she's lying or mistaken.

Dems are using dirty tactics to stall his nomination until after midterms. These people disgust me.

Ronan Farrow: “it is not accurate to say that those who knew [Kavanaugh] at the time dispute" that the allegation is credible”

Until the hearing or an investigation, there’s no basis to claim this is a smear other than your feelings being hurt.

The very witnesses she claims was there have ALL come forth to say she's lying or mistaken.

Explain this.

Source?

seriously? How can you not know this

Here's one

Here's another one

I'm not going to waste time digging up more, you can do that yourself.

Sure, Judge also refuses to testify and Farrow has witnesses supporting Ramirez. All of this could be cleared up by an investigation, yet Republicans don’t want one. If he’s innocent, why not?

Judge does not refuse to testify. Either you're wrong or you're flat our lying.

You don't open an investigation with simple allegations. Especially when there's more evidence proving his innocence than there is his guilt.

Let's see: she claimed 4 people were there and witnessed it. The four witnesses says she's full of shit. What happens next? New accuser. This shit is an insult to my intelligence.

Dems want an investigation that will take months. Conveniently stalling until after midterms where they can resist.

How about take the FBI's word for it where they claim this shit is ridiculous: https://i.redd.it/ato9op53w3n11.png

You’re going to accuse me of lying when your only source is a screenshot from FOX?

here ya go bruh

It’s pretty clear you will support Kavanaugh regardless of what facts come out. If you have anything else to say, come with facts not pics 😏

The picture is literally a screenshot of the FBI's own words. Now you're being petty.

It’s pretty clear you will support Kavanaugh regardless of what facts come out.

The only facts that have come out disprove this nonsense. Lol Everytime I chat you, it's petty bullshit like this. I'm done here.

It actually wasn’t, it was the words from an “unnamed Federal Law enforcement source”. Ok, 👋

Their official statement. Hello.

So the 3 women who are accusing him of rape/sexual harassment can't be trusted on their words but Kavanaugh's college buddies can be trusted on their word? That doesn't seem very consistent.

Kavanaugh's college buddies

Just because they was at the party doesn't mean they were "buddies"

The very witnesses that the accuser said was at the party says it never happened.

Okay... regardless, why believe his word over her word? You're implying the witness has more credibility, in regards to that situation, than the accuser which he doesn't.

1. he's innocent until proven guilty. Someones word isn't not proof. Especially when you factor in the fact that she has participated in antitrump marches. Her social media accts were a shitfest full of antitrump rhetoric which she deleted. Even her lawyer participated in Antifa riots/protest while wearing a black power shirt. They're both obviously bias and have it out for trump.

2. there's proof that she's lying. Like eyewitnesses.

She doesn't remember the year it happened. She doesn't remember how many people were involved. She hates POTUS. The people she said would defend her story says she's full of shit.

I mean, fuck. What more do you need to see this all a scam to delay his nomination until after midterms so they can resist

It's almost as if an investigation is in order to figure it out.

There are actually 3 women now. Ford - Woman from Ronan Farrow’s article - Avenattis client

Creepy Porn Lawyer wants to extend his 15 minutes now that Sloppy Daniels is on her way out of the picture.

Found the Fox News believer:/ He’s a “creepy” porn lawyer But Trump isn’t a creepy president For barebacking with a porn star??? Trumpet logic. Good luck with that.

Nothing more than a well timed political hit job.

I'm sorry, no not all women deserve to be believed. And that thought certainly does not outweigh BK's right to presumption of innocence pending due process.

She deserves to be heard, and she has been presented with plenty of opportunities to do so. Her handlers are timing the delay to prevent BK from being confirmed before the midterms.

And for those who claim to "believe Ford". No you don't, its not possible to believe her. She has presented no evidence and not one of HER witnesses has corroborated her story. You only want to believe her because it means possibly not confirming BK.

The woman passed a lie detector test and asked for an FBI background that wouldn’t take more than 3 days. Why don’t they want an investigation?

Lie detectors are in-admissible in court for a reason, they're easily faked, especially if she truly believes it. We also don't get to see the questions asked (if it wasn't a summary type), meaning their could have been no mention of BK.

Also, what is the FBI supposed to investigate? A claim made from 35 years ago with no corroborating witnesses, no details (Ford can't remember where, what year, whose house, etc). BK has already been through SIX FBI background checks. Also, it's not their jurisdiction.

Why has Ford mysteriously scrubbed the internet of herself? Oh, its because shes a known anti trumper, resister.

Because she’s been getting death threats? Ronan Farrow even said: “it is not accurate to say that those who knew [Kavanaugh] at the time dispute" that the allegation is credible”.

Investigation time

I refer you to my original question. Whats' to investigate?

A 35 year old accusation where no police report was filed, not a single witness of hers has corroborated her story, one even changed her statement. Accuser can't recant any details of the event that would aid in an investigation.
Original demand wanted BK to testify first? In what f-d up world would that even be a legitimate demand?

My prediction, she will soon magically remember the date after seeing BK's summer calendar. Mark my words.

Claims to be afraid of flying, yet finished her PHD in Hawaii Claims shes not political yet social media archives prove otherwise Claims this isn't politically motivated, yet turned her statement into a politician instead of going to police

If you can't see this for the political hit job it is I feel bad for you. If it weren't, and it was about protecting women then Dems would be just as outraged at Keith Ellison and calling for his IMMMEDIATE resignation because unlike this Ford BS, his accuser has a police report, photos of physical harm, statements from witnesses, etc.

Seriously, this is the 2nd accuser. This BS isn't helping Ford's case either.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/23/us/politics/brett-kavanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-testify.html

One paragraph really stands out. The fact that the accuser told those she wanted as witnesses that she herself couldn't even remember if it was in fact BK who exposed himself.

The Times had interviewed several dozen people over the past week in an attempt to corroborate her story, and could find no one with firsthand knowledge. Ms. Ramirez herself contacted former Yale classmates asking if they recalled the incident and told some of them that she could not be certain Mr. Kavanaugh was the one who exposed himself.

I'm sorry... But these bitches have to PROVE it. Doesn't anyone get that anymore? Our entire culture and civil society were founded on and have developed under this core principle. You are innocent until PROVEN guilty. This country was founded in part BECAUSE we told King George - Fuck you - we want due process.

If this is allowed to proceed...if these flimsy accusations are allowed to derail this mans life without ever even a single moment of actual judicial process...we are looking at a dark, dark future. If you call yourself a man, you should be fucking furious. If you are a father to boys, you should be fucking terrified.

I sometimes wonder if this is just not some giant cultural shit test, and I pray for some prominent echo of a John Wayne type with some stones and cultural clout to stand up and say "enough is enough, put up or shut up"

As it is though, I see a future where no one wants to hire or work with women in any serious capacity because it just wont be worth the risk. A choking cloud of doubt, distrust and paranoia will settle over every workplace in the nation. This bullshit will set women's progress towards any sort of equality in the workplace and the board room back 100 years.

This will be one of the greatest Pyrrhic victories of all time.

Sure, there should be an investigation into the allegations from the 3 women.

yeah...there should be...that's how it works.

Here lets try this...

35 years ago...in high school...DonteD92 grabbed my ass at a party. I don't remember many of the details, and I have no actual proof...but I swear it happened. Please have him fired.

How would you like to defend yourself DonteD92? oh no...wait..I'm a woman...your a white guy...you cant...case closed...my accusation is all it takes apparently.

All I'm arguing for here is due process. I don't care about politics. I care about the rule of law.

Thanks for the common sense.

You replied just to cheer lead casual misogyny.

Life goals!

All I'm arguing for here is due process.

Where's the casual misogyny in that statement?

You may not have noticed in your rush to have your say but I thanked the user for the common sense part of what they said, not the 'these bitches' part.

especially after the 'these bitches' bit.

Anything else you'd like to stick your oar in about?

This has nothing to do with due process, since the women aren't trying to get him prosecuted. They are trying to expose his moral corruption. The absolute worst case for Kavanaugh would not be prison, it would simply be not getting a job.

Putting your “these bitches” comment aside, if you’re really so hung up on due process then there should be an investigation. If he’s innocent and this is all a big “librul smear campaign” what’s the harm? 😏

Why are you so angry that these “bitches” are speaking out about the alleged assault? You don’t know if it happened or not but you seem very certain that women can’t be trusted.

I call my own daughter bitches sometimes. don't try to read in to it.

They can "speak out" all they want... but allegations are just that, allegations.

...and yeah...expecting the world to act on your as yet unproven allegations does make me suspicious.

Keep in mind please...if any of this is actually proven...by all means, crucify the man till your hearts content, but until then... Id like my world without mob rule thanks.

Who is expecting the world to act on unproven allegations? They are asking for an investigation. What part of that does not seem rational to you?

Don't be disingenuous, that's not all that's being asked for and you know it.

Just the state of things this morning alone, and nothing more, is being used as justification to call for him to step aside.

Im not.

This isnt a trial by media. The mob will not decide if Kavanaugh will be confirmed or not. If it worked that way Trump would have been impeached a year ago and Bill Clinton would be in prison for rape.

The people who matter in this case are asking for an investigation by the FBI which has so far not been offered. The FBI has stated they would be happy to investigate as soon as they get the go ahead, but Trump is telling people that the FBI doesnt do this sort of thing and dont want to.

Kavanaugh was an awesome party animal, mucho rest for him!

Maybe they should testify, like Mr. Judge, if they have nothing to hide

Judge does not refuse to testify. Either you're wrong or you're flat our lying.

You don't open an investigation with simple allegations. Especially when there's more evidence proving his innocence than there is his guilt.

Let's see: she claimed 4 people were there and witnessed it. The four witnesses says she's full of shit. What happens next? New accuser. This shit is an insult to my intelligence.

Dems want an investigation that will take months. Conveniently stalling until after midterms where they can resist.

How about take the FBI's word for it where they claim this shit is ridiculous: https://i.redd.it/ato9op53w3n11.png