There is nobody that will ever be nominated for the Supreme Court that doesn't have ties like the ones you're talking about. Ol' farmer Joe isn't going to get nominated and if he was, he'd take 5k and do whatever the doner wanted. While I don't give a shit about who's on the Supreme Court (Because of what I said previously) I believe that people want him for two reasons.

Lesser of two evils (not a dem)

Genuinely like him because they have no brain. (The opposite of the people who are on the skank's side blindly.)

You gotta understand that we are well beyond the point of having any moral people in political positions.

I’ll address your post in a few points.

1. The other nominees on Trump’s list are all highly qualified republicans, not democrats.

2. Dr. Ford may be a skank, but we don’t have the evidence to call her that. Dehumanizing alleged victims before you are certain their claims are false is part of the problem, no?

3. People are not blindly following Dr. Ford. They are taking into account everything that she said, her demeanor, and her initial written statement. We cannot say the same about conservative voter, as evidenced by their unflinching support for a partisan hack.

I’m a liberal (not a democrat) and while I disagree with just about everything Gorsuch stood for but felt he was worthy of the court. I do not feel this way with BK.

He has seemingly lied multiple times under oath (disqualifying by any measure)

They have refused to release his record (disqualifying by any measure)

He has supported increased surveillance (disqualifying by MY measure)

He has questionable financial issues of which they refuse to clarify (disqualifying by MY measure)

Is a typical entitled frat douche (disqualifying by MY measure)

Has all but vowed partisan revenge (disqualifying by any measure)

There are dozens of more qualified candidates for the highest court. I’m not expecting a liberal choice it will certainly be a conservative but I do not want to see another Koch operative on the bench.

So what do you want me to do? I don't want to be in a political position where I have to decline bribes and have people fabricate things about me.

(Preface: I have no political alignment; I loathe our current bipartisan political system and firmly believe “left wing, right wing, same bird”)

At first I thought this whole Kavanaugh spectacle was the Democratic knee-jerk reaction to the nomination of a Conservative Supreme Court Justice; a partisan issue where paid witnesses testify to smear the reputation of the opposition.

But if we assume that both political parties are in cahoots, this analysis doesn’t make much sense. The. I started looking into Kavanaugh’s political views, and it started making sense...

I suspect the he purpose this whole fiasco is to focus on this likely-manufactured drama to divert attention from Kavanaugh’s freedom-suppressing political views. This guy is the embodiment of Big Brother, and upon learning this, someone neutral to me that I didn’t really care about shifted to my bad side.

If Kavanaugh is found guilty and doesn’t get a seat on the Supreme Court, then that is concrete proof that this theory is wong. If Kavanaugh's investigation comes up clear, and he gets the seat, while it isn’t definitive proof, it would certainly be a red flag in my book.

You can't find someone guilty if they aren't being tried.

Sure you can, it just isn’t in a legal context until a trial.

That's not quite how it works. The FBI gathers evidence and presents it to a prosecutor. The prosecutor then has to convince a judge the evidence is valid then convince a jury that the evidence is both valid and related to the crime. This is especially important in this day and age where nearly anything can be manipulated. ( Think video and audio; they can be altered to make it appear as though someone said or did something they did not).

Guilt is not an exclusively legal term

I realize that you are using the word in a legal context, but I am currently not, nor was I in the post you responded to.

One can certainly be guilty of something without a court ever determining so

If Kavanaugh is guilty and doesn't get a seat

That certainly sounds like you are using it in a legal context.

Nonetheless we shall see what happens and hopefully no matter what the outcome, it is in the best interest of the people.

Perhaps you should reassess the context of the sentence you quoted. Kavanaugh being guilty is an inherent fact of whether or not he committed the offense. For you to say he “can’t be guilty without a trial” is simply nonsense! He already is/isn’t.

Whether he gets his seat WILL likely be decided by his guilt in a legal context, but technically he could still be guilty if no damning evidence ever emerges.

I don’t think your theory makes sense. You seem to be saying that the Republicans and Democrats are working together to distract the public from Kavanaugh’s political views...but why? If the Ford allegation hadn’t come to light, Kavanaugh would have been appointed to the Supreme Court by Tuesday without a lot of fuss. There was no need to distract anyone from anything.

I think it’s clear at this point that Republicans and Democrats are not in cahoots at all, and that actually they’ve become institutionally incapable of compromising with each other. The shame of Kavanaugh is that he’s openly hostile to the Democrats and will bring that partisanship to the Supreme Court, tainting it the same way Congress is now tainted.

I know the popular line around here is that partisanship is all a decoy, but I think it might actually be very real, and virulent, and destructive.

your first paragraph

If the Ford allegations hadn’t come to light, every mainstream media outlet wouldn’t be reporting on it for weeks. Yet they did and they have been; to the extent that actual news (such as the Sunspot coverup) has been entirely overshadowed... furthermore, the allegations themselves are a bit ridiculous, if not incredibly convenient. No evidence for these crimes can possibly exist besides hearsay due to the length of time passed since the alleged crimes took place, and if I were a federal judge, the burden of proof isn’t met via hearsay. Any thinking individual should be able to reach this conclusion, but for some reason people are in an uproar calling for an investigation (an investigation which can inherently bare no fruit aside from hearsay)

Do I think sexual assault is a serious issue and perpetrators should be punished accordingly when the proof demands? Of course! Do I think it’s possible that they can find evidence related to these allegations aside from testimonial hearsay? No I do not, and I’m interested in time proving me wrong. Too much time has passed for any reliable, forensic evidence (biological, written records, audio/video recordings; ANYTHING substantive beside word of mouth) to be found.

Testimonials are incredibly unreliable type of “evidence” which is easily compromised by bribing (political, monetary, blackmail, etc). It is entirely possible that the accusers are paid by the opposing party to smear the new candidate’s reputation...

However, IF partisanship IS an illusion to keep the metaphorical “Jacks” as dull boys, this interpretation doesn’t make sense. In this possible universe, anything the media tells us about the political theatre would be just that: an act. IF Kavanaugh was just another part of the deep state system getting his turn, the above conclusion simply doesn’t make sense. In this possible world, there are no “real” Dems/Reps... only figureheads, so why would these figureheads stir up internal conflict? The answer is (again, in this POSSIBLE world) it is an act.

You may ask: “well why would they put on this act?” This is a wonderful question, and I think it’s the most basic question the conspiracy theorist can ask about ANY perceived conspiracy: “why would TPTB lie to me about X”

In this situation, the BEST explanation of this situation is explained by Kavanaugh’s invasive political views. Do some research; the reason I don’t want him on the SCOTUS has nothing to do with his political bias against the left, and everything to do with his views on individual privacy.

Speaking of his political views, in all the clamor of this event, I’ve heard little to no mention about any of Kavanaugh’s political ideology in the mainstream media.

Am I saying I know what’s going on? Absolutely not! Quite the opposite, actually.

Am I saying I suspect foul play? Yes I am, and, as I said in the post you responded to, one of these possibilities will be potentially falsified in the future.

If Kavanaugh’s investigation determines that he assaulted those women, and he doesn’t get the chair as a result, this essentially DISPROVES the notion that the parties are in cahoots in the context of this fiasco.

It Kavanaugh’s investigation comes up clean, we just wasted more than a month of media time on a non-issue, which raises a red flag to me.

No evidence for these crimes can possibly exist besides hearsay due to the length of time passed since the alleged crimes took place

Well, they could interrogate Mark Judge. Maybe he kept a diary at that time and wrote about the assault. That’s just one possibility off the top of my head. Cold cases do get solved decades later.

These cold cases are solved by the discovery of evidence which sheds new light in some aspect of the case.

In the Kavanaugh situation, I have a hard time seeing any possible proof still existing which can’t be compromised. Interrogation implies the potential for compromised testimony. Is this hypothetical journal verifiably accurate? How could you tell.

My point had a lot more to pick at, so I’m curious why this response is focused as such.

Cold cases traditionally involve physical evidence as well

Is this hypothetical journal verifiably accurate? How could you tell.

This is a vetting, not a criminal case, so the bar isn’t super high. If the FBI comes back and says they have credible evidence or witnesses, that’s probably enough to tank him.

My point had a lot more to pick at, so I’m curious why this response is focused as such.

Well, it’s a wall of text that starts with a falsehood in the first paragraph...After that I tend to lose the energy to read further.

Take your pilpul is elsewhere, then if you can’t even be assed to read what you’re responding to.

The truth hurts, huh?

The only thing that hurts is trying to wrap my head around your notion of “falsehoods” and “truth”.

Enjoy your bubble, hope you’re alright when it gets popped.

You said something inaccurate in your first paragraph. I’m happy to read someone’s manifesto even if I don’t agree with them, but you have to understand how that tends to kill a person’s momentum. I just don’t have the time to read ten paragraphs of you being wrong.

Considering the fact that I made no affirmative claims to knowledge, I fail to see how I can be “wrong” (or right for that matter) about anything.

It is speculation of possibilities based on logical analysis of the available information. Nothing more or less

Wanted to add another, shorter response saying that I’m also open to the possibility that this is a partisan issue in which Kavanaugh is just another slimeball politician guilty of the accusations, but something stinks in this whole situation.

I suspect the purpose this whole fiasco is to focus on this likely-manufactured drama to divert attention from Kavanaugh’s freedom-suppressing political views. This guy is the embodiment of Big Brother

That’s my take as well.

Trump freed GOP from Koch influence. And he is re-shaping the party in his image. All the Never-Trump Koch factions are leaving the party and joining the MSM and DNC.

Kavanaugh is innocent of all charges, and will protect the second amendment. That'll all I need.

Kavanaugh is a Koch Crony

Prove it. You can't.

and probably play grab ass with RBG

If you believe the democrat's lies then I feel sorry for you.

Trump freed GOP from Koch influence.

How can you say that when Trumps' entire Cabinet is Koch along with his VP, Pence?

How can you say that when Trumps' entire Cabinet is Koch along with his VP, Pence?

Trump attacks 'globalist' Koch brothers

President Donald Trump lashed out Tuesday morning at the conservative megadonor Koch brothers, who Trump said “have become a total joke in real Republican circles,” in the wake of their sharp criticism of the president and his trade policies.

“The globalist Koch Brothers, who have become a total joke in real Republican circles, are against Strong Borders and Powerful Trade. I never sought their support because I don’t need their money or bad ideas,” the president wrote on Twitter. “They love my Tax & Regulation Cuts, Judicial picks & more. I made them richer.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/31/trump-attacks-koch-brothers-751248

THERE ARE KOCH MOLES WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION WHO DON'T WANT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S POPULISM TO SUCCEED.

Why are you writing in all caps?

Who do you think Trump worked for with his 2012 birther campaign.

Why did Trump campaign 100% on tea party rhetoric?

Why is Trump's entire cabinet, Koch people?

Why is his VP most famous for being a Koch toady?

Why are 99% of Trump's E.O.'s fulfilling the Koch agenda?

As for tariffs, which are mostly paid by, the people, just the kind of taxes the Kochs approve of. Taxes paid by the masses while they had their own income taxes cut?

The Kochs are aiming for the old pre-revolutionary French system, where the nobility were exempt from taxation. It didn't work out in the long run.

Why believe the constant liar, Trump?

Who do you think Trump worked for with his 2012 birther campaign.

No one.

Why did Trump campaign 100% on tea party rhetoric?

The Kochs didn't invent the Tea Party, they took it over.

Why is Trump's entire cabinet, Koch people?

That's not true.

Why is his VP most famous for being a Koch toady?

And yet the Koch Bros have no say on the Trump Admin.

Why are 99% of Trump's E.O.'s fulfilling the Koch agenda?

Not true at all.

Why did he appoint, the Federalist Society, a Koch organization pick for his Supreme Court nominee, Kavanaugh?

He was vetted by the Federalist Society. There's a difference from picking.

He has a strong record of ruling against regulations, notably environmental ones. His position opposing gun control goes significantly beyond an embrace of the Court’s controversial ruling, in Heller, that there is an individual right to bear arms—those whom Trump calls the “Second Amendment people” can rest easy with Kavanaugh. And recently Kavanaugh ruled, in the case of Garza v. Hargan, with the minority in favor of the Trump Administration and against an undocumented minor who was trying to get an abortion in Texas.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/why-donald-trump-nominated-brett-kavanaugh-to-the-supreme-court

Why believe the constant liar, Trump?

Trump is the best President in modern history, and has done what we elected him to do. Kept his promises and delivered.

Obama was a bigger liar than Trump by far. Obama lied about everything.

In other words, you believe the liars, Trump and the Kochs.

KAVA-YEA look at everything. In the world we live in. The Dems are crazy and trying to do anything but there job. Write bills, pass bills. The job is not that complicated. If you write a bad bill then it won't get passed. But they are writing no bills and instead going on TV grandstanding.

The Republicans have the majority in Both the House and the Senate. That means no Democratic legislation is going to be introduced or passed.

Why are you yelling? And why are you assuming I don't vote? I did nothing but state the fact that Republicans are in control of both houses of Congress oh and I will add that has been the fact since 2011.

You live in a crazy world.

I grew up in Seattle and moved because of crazy people with thoughts like this. Get a life no one is going to die.

That's why I moved. I respect the POOP

Do you smoke meth? Sounds kinda like it to me.

I think we are on the same page with Trump and Kanye

Do people realize when THEY TALK LIKE THIS and use things like KKKLAN that people are dissuaded from even listening to them talk?

This is the internet equivalent of standing on a corner with a sign that says "WAKE UP SHEEPLE" and screaming at everyone who walks by

I'm not from Florida, why do people think that?

FL = ForgottenLanguages you goof, I'm the only mod of the FL subreddit and half of my posts in this sub are about FL

Cold cases traditionally involve physical evidence as well

I'm not from Florida, why do people think that?

FL = ForgottenLanguages you goof, I'm the only mod of the FL subreddit and half of my posts in this sub are about FL

Is this hypothetical journal verifiably accurate? How could you tell.

This is a vetting, not a criminal case, so the bar isn’t super high. If the FBI comes back and says they have credible evidence or witnesses, that’s probably enough to tank him.

My point had a lot more to pick at, so I’m curious why this response is focused as such.

Well, it’s a wall of text that starts with a falsehood in the first paragraph...After that I tend to lose the energy to read further.

Perhaps you should reassess the context of the sentence you quoted. Kavanaugh being guilty is an inherent fact of whether or not he committed the offense. For you to say he “can’t be guilty without a trial” is simply nonsense! He already is/isn’t.

Whether he gets his seat WILL likely be decided by his guilt in a legal context, but technically he could still be guilty if no damning evidence ever emerges.