Which taxes are true blue American?

Americans have always hated taxes (disclaimer: I support them). Washington lead an army to put down a revolt against a Whiskey tax in the 1780's, for example...

It was easy to hate taxes when you saw the funds go towards improvements not only for your WASP brethren, but polacks, guineas, micks, yids, and krauts as well.

i dunno man, i'm canadian. i still don't get why the tax system is an incomprehensible mess written in a domain specific language that only a select priesthood can understand,

That's pretty much always been what the Law is. No matter the subject. It's why most politicians are Lawyers, and why Law, along with Theology and Medical practice, was seen as one of the only 3 "real" professions for centuries. Even more crazy when you think about how powerful lawyers were in a society with high rates of illiteracy. Now they continue to counter illiteracy with "legalese".

Legalese should be a required school subject.

A BAR lawyer is completely different than a Common Law lawyer. The US is supposed to be a Common Law country.

But the Law, as an entity, as well as its purpose, is still the same in principle. Not sure tho if you meant to respond to me or OP's comment to the above comment of mine.

The only law that matters is Natural Law which is the basis for Common Law. Code, ordinances, etc, are not law.

Not sure tho if you meant to respond to me or OP's comment to the above comment of mine.

My comment was multi-purpose. It was for you and all others who read it.

I agree with you concerning Natural Law (even though it contains its' own issues concerning Authority), but I was speaking to the actual implementation of Law in the US and the wider world.

even though it contains its own issues concerning Authority

The Authority is our Creator - Nature.

but I was speaking to the actual implementation of Law in the US and the wider world.

The US is not run under Law. It's ran via Commercial codes, statutes, regulations, ordinances, etc. Everything you do as Citizen in the US is considered Commercial.

The Authority is our Creator - Nature.

But the interpretation of that authority is up for debate- hence the difficulties.

The US is not run under Law. It's ran via Commercial codes, statutes, regulations, ordinances, etc. Everything you do as a Citizen in the US is considered Commercial.

All the Law is, is what is claimed by the Courts and enforced by the Auxiliaries. That's just the unfortunate Reality of power and its dynamics.

But the interpretation of that authority is up for debate- hence the difficulties.

It's not up for debate. In thinking so, is to deny our existence. Remember, just because you don't think something exists, does not mean it doesn't exist.

All the Law is, is what is claimed by the Courts and enforced by the Auxiliaries.

Incorrect. You're confusing what has been called Law for actual Law. This was done by the priest class that OP is referencing. This is how TPTB have gotten away with all the evil they have. They've tricked us. Laws for thee, but not for me/us.

Break out from their Majick.

It's not up for debate. In thinking so, is to deny our very existence. Remember, just because you don't think something exists, does not mean it doesn't exist.

I'm not talking about myself. I'm talking about the millions of others we share political authority in this country with. They help form the hard Reality on the ground that I described.

Incorrect. You're confusing what has been called Law for actual Law. This was done by the priest class that OP is referencing. This is how TPTB have gotten away with all the evil they have. They've tricked us. Laws for thee, but not for me/us.

Nope. I'm just stating the obvious. What I've described is the Law. It just isn't Just.

Some of the Founding fathers would've been very sad with this answer and what the country has become.

I don't like it either. But it's just the hard Truth of the matter. Law is an emergent property of what is written (by the courts), what is enforced (by the auxiliaries), and what is supported (by the People). None of this makes it Just, but it does make it Law.

Labantem et prope cadentem rem publicam.

and what is supported (by the People)

We haven't been the People in a very long time and may never of been the People they were referencing. No one alive today actually signed the original Compact. We are Citizens - Slaves. This was codified after the Civil War.

None of that matters. What does matter is that millions of people merrily go along with it- lending their tacit approval to whatever is put before them in this regard.

It does matter and that's why we need to educate people. I choose to educate and not consent to this. I've never consented to any of it. I choose that over just going with the status quo because "that's just how it is and has always been". You're disappointing me right now, friend.

You misunderstand. I'm not "going along with the status quo", I'm just recognizing the situation for what it is. We can never change anything if we don't first understand and accept Reality for what it is.

You misunderstand.

I definitely was based on your clarification here. Thanks and I agree with your last part 120%. Sadly, I'm worried most people will just deny reality until their last breathe.

Sadly, I'm worried most people will just deny reality until their last breathe.

My fear as well my friend. In the meantime, we have to stay strong and stick together. Shit is gonna get far worse before it gets better. Many have yet to confront the dark Reality of the system and its deep-rooted evil, and we will have to be there, and ready for them, when they finally do confront it.

Same Thing with the stock market, I asked this question on a learning to trade forum "why can't I just learn to be my own broker and keep myself safe in the market?" still waiting on a reply. They make it difficult to learn so that more parasites can suck out wealth from those that have earned it through hard work and dedication.

They put out this idea of America and instantly did the opposite behind our backs...

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Life has changed dramatically since the birth of this Nation, and how we navigate it has changed just as dramatically. The Constitution and our interpretations of it have followed suit, but the Republic itself remains a fundamentally conservative (resistant to radical change) entity.

But as for a departure point? Some will say the Civil War, others the inception of the Fed, some the New Deal, others Kennedy, and still more say the end of Bretton Woods. I think that what we can say for certain is that the assassinations and chaos of the 60's set a certain group in power that hasn't been close to being unseated until just recently. They dictated the monetary policy of the country starting with Volcker in '77 and everything else has flowed naturally as a result.

so at what point did this get all bent, and why?

The Louisiana Purchase because manifest destiny.

First major action that was quasi-constitutional. It was accepted. Other things subsequently pushed the boundaries of constitutionality further and further.

It's very simple, people like George Washington and Abraham Lincoln actually cared about human beings more than money, but most of the people in politics now, not only in America but in many countries, they care about money and power more than the people, and so they have allowed the richest people to use them to create all of our laws with no input from the people who have to follow them.

Our founding colonists were running from the tyranny that sunk Europe. The one world order has been a concept in action for thousands of years. We never escaped it. We're sinking. In America, this started in the 17th century.

Because evil aka Satan and his worshipers invert everything that is Good. Anti human anti christ mega wealthy atheist intellectuals scientist took over the planet.

It was easy to hate taxes when you saw the funds go towards improvements not only for your WASP brethren, but polacks, guineas, micks, yids, and krauts as well.