We will never come face to face with Aliens because no species can survive long enough to become so advanced.
1 2018-10-08 by RedCardForMeJeff
Simply put, intergalatic communication and travel has not and will not occur due to the fact that no society/culture can survive long enough to achieve this feat.
- First off, only a small percentage of planets can support life drasticially reducing the likelihood of intergalactic life.
- Massive Natural disasters occur causing intelligent life to go extinct.
- Intelligent species never get to exploring outer space due to problems/issues in their homeland.
- The species eventually beats natural selection severely retarding it's physical and mental improvements.
- Species lack the resources for such an expedition.
This is just a theory, i'd love to hear some counter arguments
42 comments
1 Didymos_Black 2018-10-08
You're theory is unprovable. Can you revise so it can be tested?
1 TheCrawlerFL 2018-10-08
OP's theory is one of the many proposed solutions to the Fermi Paradox that doesn't make that many leaps though, which I think makes it valid
1 Jabba___The___Slut 2018-10-08
Ive got a simpler answer. The universe is big and boring. Instead of sending out your people over the millenia to go check out a chunk of rock that might have life on it just run a simulation that perfectly simulate that planet and see if life pops up.
Its easier and no one is in danger. Then you and your alien buds spend the lifetime of the universe living in a digital reality that is completely indistinguishable from our own. Just think about boring and insufferable it would be to spend a few hundred thousand years to go check out a promising planet just for it to be yet another kind of fungus... Yay... 476th fungus planet in a row... Whooooo....
1 TheCrawlerFL 2018-10-08
This is why some people argue that we live in a simulation, which is another solution to the Fermi Paradox
I get what you're saying, but this would be exciting to meee lol. Humans split from fungus in the evolutionary tree millions of years ago, and some people (Paul Stamets) believe consciousness as a function stemmed from fungi
1 Jabba___The___Slut 2018-10-08
Maybe for the first million years`
1 Rockran 2018-10-08
We specifically? Sure, space is big and travel takes time.
But no species ever anywhere in the history of the universe? There's a lot of planets.
1 RedCardForMeJeff 2018-10-08
I think for humans on earth my theory is pretty bang on but I could never prove this to be true for the whole universe. We don't know how life and society works in other galaxies.
1 Rockran 2018-10-08
So that means it's possible for aliens to make teleportation, and possibly visit earth?
1 EatingTurkey 2018-10-08
And a lot of universes.
1 urban-barbie 2018-10-08
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great%20Filter - Yeah this theory has already been discussed it’s called the Great Filter
1 Estamio2 2018-10-08
OP's theory works with the time-scale we are typically given ("13.8 billion years old...")
But if the universe is vastly older, probably with no beginning, the Aliens are not coming to visit---they never left.
13 min video by Cold war spy Bill Gaede
1 Maxzilla33 2018-10-08
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great%20Filter - This theory has already been brought up before
1 binrobinro 2018-10-08
???
We're already here.
1 LetsGoAllTheWhey 2018-10-08
Shhhh! We're not supposed to tell anybody. Remember?
1 teem0chan 2018-10-08
If the universe is like Indra's web, then super intellegient aliens already exist. Then it isn't a matter of not being able to survive long enough as a species. It more likely requires a change in perspective; especially defining what is required to be a superintellegient alien. Perhaps we are looking for a 6, when it was supposed to be a 9.
1 Playaguy 2018-10-08
That's one theory. I don't ascribe personally, but who knows.
1 x6ftundx 2018-10-08
Mine is simple. If you can't go faster than the speed of light you are looking at generational ships. Wormholes while great in syfi aren't real yet. So if you can't go faster than the speed of light it would take a very very very long time to go between places. If aliens were real, i'm not saying they aren't. They probably have been here for a very very long time.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-10-08
the only reason to do these is insurance to continue life in another safer place.
with the right tech a society could send out seed ships, 100% robotic with cryo frozen genetic material or DNA sequencers, a lot cheaper and safer than generational ships.
1 Kendle_C 2018-10-08
"Thar be dragons" in interstellar space. It's possible interstellar craft get sucked into a gravity well before arriving here, or once anyone discovers a way between multiverses, we pop into an infinity of parallel dimensions never arriving back into their own. Some nearby multiverse may be getting all the visitations and this one zilch.
1 Keef-Herban 2018-10-08
Stoped at #1. How do you know life cannot survive in environments like our own.
Arsenic-based life form discovered on Earth in 2010.
Yes it is on earth but it is not a carbon based Life form, so life can and probably does exist on planets we could not.
1 Vannysh 2018-10-08
Yeah. The number of assumptions astounds me. We know so very little about Existence. So so little that we haven't even an inkling of an idea of what we don't know. Is that scary? To me, no. Why? Because it literally means ANYTHING is possible. And isn't that what we want to believe? Don't you WANT to believe that anything us possible? I can stay up all night just wondering about the wonders of existence. So many fascinating possibilities. Infinite universes. Quantum mechanics. Magic.
The universe is truly INFINITE.
1 Keef-Herban 2018-10-08
I 100% agree, but
“Magic's just science that we don't understand yet.” ― Arthur C. Clarke
1 bradok 2018-10-08
It could also reach a point at which magic is science we will simply never understand.
1 viscerah 2018-10-08
As an astrophysicist, I can confirm that environments that could support life are actually very common in the universe. Take a look at the Kepler project, and you will find thousands of planets we’ve found in the habitable zones of stars.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-10-08
good for funding and gullible journalists.
1 imnoturfatherboi 2018-10-08
Exactly this. The only reason holding us back from aliens existing is this really is all a simulation
1 Space_Pecs 2018-10-08
Nope.
1 nhnyr88 2018-10-08
The biggest problem with finding or being found by intelligent extraterrestrial life is that the universe is obviously so vast in time and space. Its very inconceivably fucking big. There is definitely life out there in some form. I don't believe it's ever going to be possible to meet them, though.
At least not until we achieve warp flight.
1 The_J0M0 2018-10-08
There is a really good theory about this. I don't recall the name but it basically states that once a civilization reaches the "atomic age" they inevitably end up destroying themselves.
1 no1113 2018-10-08
Wrong
1 astralrocker2001 2018-10-08
Aliens are already here. Many have seen them working with the Shadow Government in Deep Underground Bases. You are inside a closed off Predatory Parasitic Matrix. The Aliens inside this Matrix have Enslaved Humanity. They work from the shadows and the Satanic Global Elite herd the masses for them.
1 EatingTurkey 2018-10-08
So what happens when we die? Do we get sent back again?
1 ZeerVreemd 2018-10-08
That is what the Saturn/ Moon matrix theory implies.
1 astralrocker2001 2018-10-08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAwKDcB_Axg
1 FartfullyYours 2018-10-08
It always me how narrow minded science is when discussing the possibility of extraterrestrials. They always assume that all life must be carbon based and requires water and oxygen. There might exist oranisms that thrive on hydrogen sulfide or nitric oxide.
Also, just because humans are intrinsically self-serving sacks of shit incapable of acting in interest but their own doesn't mean that this applies to any extraterrestrial species. Perhaps there are species that survived by only acting in their species common good.
1 TurnsOutImAScientist 2018-10-08
All a species has to do is get to the AI/robotics singularity, after which the economy is fully automated, AI runs the show, and the original species is (at best) basically a parasite. Then it's a question of whether the AI sees any value in interstellar exploration -- if it's predicted to be a net loss in energy perhaps they simply don't do it.
1 hinzmo 2018-10-08
I think that our intelligence is just too limited and we create rigid borders to how we think aliens are supposed to look. Our idea of aliens is an intelligent carbon based life form. For all we know aliens may be everywhere and we just aren’t smart enough to realize it yet. Maybe space travel is just a primitive means of travel for most intelligent life forms?
1 BrungUpGood 2018-10-08
The idea that we are alone in the universe is a uniquely human conceit. The universe is teeming with life, intelligent and otherwise.
1 Globie2017 2018-10-08
None of the theories in this thread carry any weight at all because we only have a sample size of 1 to speculate from.
1 DangerDotMike 2018-10-08
Im an ER Medic. We make the human race weaker every day.
1 Jabba___The___Slut 2018-10-08
Maybe for the first million years`