4chan made me trans: how trap porn is causing autogynephilia and gender dysphoria in vulnerable people such as myself

1  2018-10-09 by transgirltradwife

Hello, I have struggled with gender dysphoria since at least 2014. I might have struggled with it longer, such as always being uncomfortable with having short hair and facial hair since I hit puberty. But before this, I always saw myself as a man, and a masculine one at that. I played sports and was in the boy scouts and had almost all male friends. I would have beers with my dad and go to hockey games with him and live the typical life of a man. I started to get a bit socially isolated at parts of my teenage years and I found 4chan in about 2011, and would browse there, being encapsulated with the nihilist, self-deprecating culture there. There was porn that was posted there, too. But in 2011, this porn was relatively vanilla and if it was fetishistic it was still in the realms of what is considered normal, like BDSM and stuff, nothing that really affects anyone's life at all outside the bedroom.

In 2014 however, they started to post trap porn, which awakened something inside of me that wasn't there before. I didn't want to fuck these girls or feminine boys, I wanted to be one of them. It reached a point where I couldn't even browse these threads anymore because I became too jealous of how they looked. If I was never exposed to it, I would still likely be a man today. I didn't think this way about other girls because I couldn't see myself in them. There was an element of Hegelian reflection going on here. I did not see myself reflected when looking at cis (not trans) women. It did not strike a chord with me in any way because I saw it as an impossible state to achieve. After all, they're women because they have vaginas and I have a penis. But when I saw penises attached to women, I could more easily make sense of my own identity with reference to these other individuals.

This was something that was now achievable to me, and I would have never felt this way unless I saw these feminine penises for myself. I knew and knew of trans people before this happened, but I could not resonate with them either, because they were either "born in the wrong body" narratives or trans men who transitioned in the opposite direction. But we are seeing a rapid uptick of people trannifying themselves coincidentally (using the less common "Happening or existing at the same time" definition here) with the rise in popularity of trap porn. I know I'm not the only person this is happening to.

Keeping the topic to 4chan, there was a marked shift in who posted on their /lgbt/ board. Years ago, these users were mostly gay men but now are overwhelmingly traps, traps who now mostly make threads about being unable to pass and otherwise how miserable they are. These are men who could have had a lot of potential in society, but they, too, got suckered into the void of autogynephila and mental illness.

The porn industry is encouraging this. Pornhub releases their "year in review" information every year, that graphically compiles trends and stats from their userbase. "Transgender" was the 6th most trending porn search term of 2017 (and "cuckold" was the number one trending search term, which is a can of worms onto itself). Link. Now do you think that it is rising for no reason whatsoever? Or is this a response to increased visibility and fetishism? Porn companies produce more content based on what's popular like what all businesses do, so it's likely creating a feedback loop where they're creating more porn, which is creating more trans people, which is creating more porn, etc. This is basically how new perversions get normalized.

This trend was captured by sexologist researcher Ray Blanchard, who posited that there are two types of trans women: autogynephiles and homosexual transsexuals. The definition of autogynephilia can be parsed from its Latin parts, "auto" meaning self, "gyne" meaning female or feminine, and "philia" meaning loving. Those individuals in the autogynephilia typology tend to exhibit certain characteristics: they tend to transition later, they tend to prefer women sexually, and they tend to be more masculine and are less likely to pass. Homosexual transsexuals are the opposite, where they are formerly gay men who were such faggots that they became women. They tend to be more feminine, more likely to pass, and prefer men. Blanchard's theory captures the essence of this dynamic perfectly. I am definitely in the autogynephile category, because despite mostly preferring men, it was the erotic displays of these traps that drew me into this black hole. Many trans people try to deny this link vehemently, saying that since they do not neatly fit into one of these two typologies, or that it doesn't account for, say, bisexual people, then it must be completely wrong. But just because there tends to be two different trends doesn't mean everyone neatly fits into one of these two categories.

While porn is being indiscriminate in who they are targeting, it tends to attract vulnerable groups of people, like how flies are drawn to a light. There are numerous studies showing a comorbidity between autism spectrum disorders and trappiness. Even left-leaning publications and transgender workshops acknowledge this intersection. Some trans activists tried to handwave this link away because this one study that this article has cited relies on the DSM IV definition of gender identity disorder, which is a different definition of the DSM V definition of gender dysphoria. The DSM IV definition has been criticized and then removed entirely from the newest definition of the DSM because it often conflated gender nonconformity with that of dysphoria in the diagnostic criteria. Which is a fair criticism, however numerous other studies, using the DSM V definition, are still finding a link. In my own anecdotal experience, this tends to be true. It's almost a 50/50 autistic/non-autistic split, compared with it being 99/1 in the general population. Numerous doctors in youth gender identity clinics are also purporting this anecdotal experience. The 2015 US Transgender Survey sought to look at the demographics of trans Americans. On page 57 of the report, (pg 61 of this pdf) found that 30% of their trans respondents had "Difficulty concentrating, remembering, or making decisions because of a physical, mental, or emotional condition", compared with 5% of the general population, and 22% of their trans respondents had "Difficulty doing errands alone, such as visiting a doctor’s office or shopping, because of a physical, mental, or emotional condition" compared with 6% of the general population, clearly showing a statistically significant link between being trans and having a mental disability. This doesn't necessarily mean autism, it could refer to other conditions like ADHD and executive function disorders, but if you presuppose that about 1 of 5 or 6% of respondents had autism as their condition, which is the estimated percentage of people with autism, then it could likewise be extrapolated that it's probably true of trans people, too. This survey found no such link between physical disability and being trans, it seems to exactly match that of the general population, so it's not like the respondents of this survey are likely to be claiming disability for oppression points; they likely are actually telling the truth.

This ties back to vaccinations and how vaccinations give people autism. If they're giving kids autism, could it also be extrapolated that vaccines are causing transgenderism? I also suspect the elites and deep state are putting anti-androgens in the water supply. Some plastics runoff has feminizing effects, as well as the hormones we are giving cows to give more milk, which we are serving to schoolchildren. Some studies indicate that girls (as well as boys, actually) are hitting puberty at younger ages because of this, but couldn't these same effects be feminizing boys? Men's testosterone levels are lower now than they were in the past.. We mocked Alex Jones for his "they're putting chemicals in the water to make the frogs gay" quote but is there actually truth to this? The frogs might not just be turning gay, they might be turning trans as well. And if the frogs are turning trans, then why not our children? Of course Alex Jones seems to have an affinity for trap porn, so he's not immune from the influence either. Expect to see Alexa or Alexandria Jones in 5 years.

I'm sorry to all of society that I couldn't be the man you wanted me to be. I'm an utter autistic weirdo who gave into hedonism and pornography. I know that porn and the chemicals in the water supply did a number on me. Before transitioning, I was a heterosexual man with a beautiful girlfriend but I had sex with a man last night, and I actually felt good about his masculine body juxtaposed with my frail, weak body, and love that he has utter control and dominion over me. I liked this feeling, but I never had these feelings before. Obviously external factors are causing it, given how much of a masculine man I was before.

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ITT: OP transitioned, regrets it, blames the internet.

If I were cis, I would detransition. I can't make myself like being a man. Being male is literal torture.

Then to say that 4chan is to blame is a fallacy. Your exposure to such things isn't a conspiracy against you. You have gender dysphoria and it wasn't fully realized until you were exposed to some of the "end results" of the disease.

And don't think I'm not your ally. I am, but this entire post is rediculous.

I agree with you, the chems in the plastics atrazine in the food water, the hormones in meet and porn like a virus enters your subconscious and breeds there, changing you for the worse

I would have never had gender dysphoria if I was never exposed to it. I liked being male. They made me this way. Think of all the people who lived and died without seeing a feminine penis. The thought would have never crossed their minds, and they lived not having ever had gender dysphoria.

This has to be a troll.

I made a timestamp awhile ago with my spironolactone (T-blocker) and my estradiol. Forgive my confusion over EDT and EST, though. Not that good with timezones.

https://imgur.com/a/5Ypj73c

I tried detransitioning many times and I failed every time. Seeing traps was like the redpill to me. I couldn't unsee what I saw. It opened a Pandora's box that gave me autogynephilia and dysphoria. The creators of the Matrix were two trans women whose movie, they say, was an allegory for being trans. Estrogen came in red pills rather than blue pills back then, the movie was about not denying or lying to yourself. But you can't go back to believing lies because that's what they are: lies. The blissful ignorance I once had is now unable to be recaptured. I long for those days. But I can't go back.

So are you saying you would never/have never encountered a trans person in real life. But simply the sight of them online forced you into this major life choice?

The only trans person I encountered transitioned in the opposite direction. It was the sight of them, yes, because I didn't feel that way with cis girls because I couldn't put myself in their shoes.

Get off the internet and sort yourself out.

Big time

Is this pasta

No, I spent a good 30 minutes writing this. I cited sources and everything.

Oh shit guys, jews must be freaking out. "Let's get a tranny to post some bullshit and name 4chan as the cause so people stop going to the place that names the enemy."

SNAP. This is going in my JIDF cringe compilation.

Hey, the Jews aren't the ones behind everything. It's just capitalist decadence. The elites do want to consolidate power, but they do this through the usurpation of surplus value. They then push dangerous social norms such as US imperialism, Ukrainian nationalism, and feminism.

4chan is generally a good place for factual information but all the trap porn there is causing unintended consequences. There are plenty of places you can go for politics that don't inundate you with dick.

Jewish influence in the porn industry:

https://youtu.be/gwd_Iofr6ZQ

It's just capitalist decadence

What is the Esau gambit?

social norms

what is biology.

He didn’t say people shouldn’t look at the chans, you’re making a giant leap to fit a narrative. Posts like this is what turns people off to the Jewish conspiracy.

"4chan made me trans"

k.

So it sounds more like a fetish than gender dysphoria. And I do think studies have found that repeatedly exposing yourself to something like that can create a fetish. I read somewhere about a study where they created a brown shoe fetish in their test subjects by repeatedly exposing them to the shoe and porn.

Unfortunately you can’t really unfetish yourself. Once the damage is done, it’s done.

If it was solely fetishistic then I wouldn't be crying over upper lip shadow, my voice, and the broadness of my shoulders. Not denying there is a fetish element at play here but the fetish did cause dysphoria, too.

Well do you wish you’d never transitioned, or are you happier now? And the end of the day it doesn’t matter how it happened, just how you feel about it.

I wish I was never exposed to it but it was preferable to transition after having been than being stuck in a position where I couldn't. There was a good 3 year time difference between when the dysphoria started and when I started HRT.

How old were you when you started watching the trap porn?

21

Is the only reason you’re unhappy is because you feel like you don’t pass? If so you could look at pictures of women who are built somewhat like you and try to copy their style. And remember contouring is your friend! Watch lots of makeup tutorials on YouTube. I don’t know. But as long as you’re happ(ier) that’s good right?

Well if I totally passed I would be happier but deep down I know Im a sexual deviant. Usually looking at pictures of women makes me too jealous. I do contour, it's hiding my upper lip shadow I struggle with. I did do 12 sessions of laser but I need electrolysis. Every makeup suggestion I try doesn't actually cover it.

See, a lot of what you say makes me think it’s more of a fetish than actual gender dysphoria.

Do you actually feel like you’re a woman? Or do you like feeling like a woman because it turns you on?

Both

Hum. Well just remember it’s your life, and your allowed to live it any way you want. Every single person has their own life, so you are under no obligation to live your life in a certain way to please someone else. They have their own damn life to run, they don’t need to be greedy and try to run yours too. You be you, and don’t feel bad for it.

I have trouble believing that you’ve had 12 sessions of laser and still have visible shadow to the point where you can’t hide it. I had 7 sessions and I haven’t scheduled the 8th because there’s basically nothing left. What’s going on with your laser tech? Is it IPL?

It's not IPL, it is reduced but not removed entirely. Maybe Im just not that good with makeup and trying to cover things up. My skin is translucent so getting a close shave is most often not enough. I want to go with electrolysis next to try to finish it off. Laser was able to remove all the hair from elsewhere but not my upper lip.

I actually felt good about his masculine body juxtaposed with my frail, weak body, and love that he has utter control and dominion over me. I liked this feeling, but I never had these feelings before. Obviously external factors are causing it, given how much of a masculine man I was before.

If it feels good, do it. People are far too involved with themselves to care what you do.

Jewish influence in the porn industry:

https://youtu.be/gwd_Iofr6ZQ

Jewish influence in the porn industry:

https://youtu.be/gwd_Iofr6ZQ

I can’t believe I wasted 30 min of my life reading that

Sorry that you have a learning disability

Fake and probably not gay.

Proud to say I'm uncool enough to have no idea what the hell "trap" means in this context.

Go to r/traps then

Nah.

A guy with artificially generated breasts that tries to look like a woman.

It sounds like a bit of a contradiction that you say you were a real manly man, and then you saw some pictures of trannys and couldnt stop wanting to be one...

I mean, dont take this the wrong way, but it dosent happen to most manly men, now does it?

and if they happen to see a chick with a stick on 4chan, they would probably just quickly scroll past, right?

not judging, trying to understand

It can happen to anyone. That’s what makes it scary

The idea that porn could "awaken something inside you" is worth examining more comprehensively. I don't doubt that you feel like 4chan is to blame, but the exploration of your sexuality is a gift. The ride's not over and whatever you imagine a vanilla male appetite to be can be disregarded because everyone is bent

You just have an undiagnosed mental illness go to a therapist and get your priorities straight. This is like the whole paedophile argument...nobody is born one, you develop these strong ideas of attraction through a psychological imbalance growing up, either you didn't get enough love or got abused and their mind went to dark places to fill in that missing void. It's correctable and it takes the individual to take ownership of their problem and deal with it.

I think there is a reason porn is pushed and to me it’s definitely no coincidence certain kind of porn has become popular. I don’t know how people can be so certain these things cannot have a profound effect on the psyche. Different people will be affected different ways.

Im sorry for all the pushback you are getting for this post. What you are saying rings very true. I had very much a similar experience but was fortunate enough to loose the delusion before i went and turned my whole world upside down with a transition. Unfortunatly the echochamber that is the transgender community is too uncomfortable with this kind of discusion becuase they know its true for a good large portion of them. And those who arent transgendet but attack posts like this are simply being mislead by the one-sided narrative of the transgender movement. I have to laugh and them, becuase they couldnt possibly know without having been through the gender dysphoria mindfuck themselves.

4chan didn't change my sex. It does give me piles though.

Sorry that you have a learning disability

The idea that porn could "awaken something inside you" is worth examining more comprehensively. I don't doubt that you feel like 4chan is to blame, but the exploration of your sexuality is a gift. The ride's not over and whatever you imagine a vanilla male appetite to be can be disregarded because everyone is bent

Nah.