Truth. I don't think that they are extraterrestrial beings but rather a physical manifestation of something from the spiritual "realm". I believe they are what religious circles would refer to as Angels and Demons.

I think both exist. Aliens and spiritual manifestations.

You could be right. I am not close-minded to different opinions.

You mean like UFOs abducting people are actually government ops to conduct illegal human experimentation? If so, I’d say no. Alien disguises would be unnecessarily elaborate just to perform human experimentation.

Funny enough, there’s an X-Files episode about Mulder and Scully investigating a case about two teens being abducted by aliens. Their investigation leads them to uncovering the alien abduction as part of a top secret Air Force operation. The Air Force used pilots dressed as aliens and experimental aircraft shaped like UFOs as means to enter foreign airspace. Their reason, the enemy sees a jet they shoot it down, but a UFO, they hesitate.

If the UFO phenomenon is legit, and isn't a government op, then I have to admit to not believing virtually all alien abduction stories. I can't believe that a species advanced enough to travel thousands of light years through space would come in a form similar to us, let alone make casual conversation with essentially unimportant people. X-Files I mentioned. Also, the case in that episode was turned into a book by some writer interviewing the two FBI agents, lol.

If the UFO phenomenon is legit, and isn't a government op, then I have to admit to not believing virtually all alien abduction stories. I can't believe that a specices advanced enough to travel thousands of light years through space would come in a form similar to us, let alone make casual conversation with essentially unimportant people.

Going off topic, but if you're into conspiracy theories, or great TV shows in general, then I'd highly recommend watching the X-Files. It does conspiracy theories, the supernatural, and sci-fi proper. The show did go downhill after season 7, though. Still, if you have time, you should watch it.

You're halfway there with your analysis. I highly recommend checking out Jacques Vallees work. Specifically his Alien Contact trilogy and possibly also Messengers of Deception. That is, if you are genuinely interested in the subject.

Why indeed would aliens fly across the universe just to ask you the time and then tell you you're lying? Or to make pancakes in your back yard? Why does almost every abductee adopt a new cosmic worldview?

No. They have been documented in all cultures worldwide going back many hundreds of years.

I was talking with someone yesterday, and they pointed out that's it's really odd how Alien ships have advanced parallel to our own tech. Like the Roswell ship isn't anything compared to the UFOs we see today. So the idea that UFOs are just us in advanced technological ships kinda makes sense.

Although, I was meditating in a park one day around 2012, and was focusing on "if aliens exist give me a sign" and not two minutes later a flaming ball of light slowly cut across the sky, then another followed soon after. That alone through me for a loop. Others in the park saw it and one guy said, "if that's a plane, it's completely on fire"...

Like everything we go down the rabbit hole, I can postulate, but never really know what to believe.

Only time I ever saw a UFO was in 2012 as well, at December 20th at 11pm, to be exact! In central texas about 30 minutes a way from Fort Hood military base.

If there are 'aliens' that can disguise themselves as human, they would be wayy too far along to still be in the experimentation stages. I'd think it'd be more along the lines of an anonymous pyramid-type scheme to mine/gather resources from the planet's surface or underground.

I guess humans would be the cheaper option over these expensive ass cloning tanks. A 4-tank center can run you upwards of 45 trillion+ nowadays.

You had one above ground? I heard that was on the list of unauthorized surface exposure contraband. It literally says underground only on the side of each tank lol

To be fair, things may have changed. I've been off-world for quite some time. I can send an avatar if you wanna go catch a brew or something sometime?

I think UFOs are secret government projects and I think they always have been.

I also believe aliens are real. Seems impossible that they're not out there somewhere, given the size and age of the universe. I'm not sold on them visiting us. I hope I'm wrong (if they're peaceful).

What makes you think anything we've learned about space, galaxies and the size of it all is even remotely real. We can't even prove that we had men on the moon.

I had an alien dream where these aliens looked just like people. Pretty interesting if you believe in dreams being a communication medium

Yeah who knows. I’ve had very vivid, realistic dreams that I remember to a T. It could just be I’m into this shit, or an actual experience

Look at yourself and all your good and bad and then realize what if your an alien. A shitty one but one none the less, with that being said you come across aliens every day my friend think great and think positive.

I read from the bike of Ye, Kanye 3:12 I know I got angels watching me from the other side.

Men in black exist and they wanted my DNA.

I mostly stand by the UFO's are time travelers hypothesis.

I like to think that aliens are just really tiny to be more biologically efficient and live among us hiding with the ease of bugs...

If it weren't for Hollywood, videogames and literature constantly feeding us propaganda (about Aliens/space), the concept of *aliens existing* would still be a far away fantasy.

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TPTB **WANT** us to believe Aliens exist and they are hiding them. If they really wanted to keep them hidden, would Hollywood have been pooping out Alien after Alien movie the past 50 years? Especially in recent years with Marvel (MCU) and other block buster space movies getting released every few months, I really don't think they're hiding Aliens.

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Or what about all the goverment officials (DOD, CIA, FBI, that Canadian fella Nick pope or whatever, ...) that have come out over the past years saying Aliens exist and (part of) the government have been hiding them since atleast Roswell....

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So they're hiding all these ALiens from us, the ALiens are perfectly fine with this (It's not like they're technologically thousands of years more advanced...), and at the same time they're constantly saying us they're hiding Aliens? (Again, hollywood, media, literature, ...)

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Going to bold this tl;dr, because especially in conspiracy land far too many people are decieved:

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**TL;DR;

They want us to think they're hiding Aliens. If they really were hiding Aliens, we wouldn't be having blockbuster after blockbuster alien movies, we wouldn't have all these officials telling us(!) they're hiding Aliens and we sure as shit wouldn't have 100 years of literature talking about aliens.

They're just prepping us for the final step in the heliocentric lie... **

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But it is gaining traction though.

Who would come out of Marvel movie saying: zomg that was so ridiculous, ALiens don't exist laawl!

Sure, people would laugh at the ridiclously advanced technology and action, and perhaps even at the interpretation of what aliens would look like, but the concept of Aliens existing is not something people really laugh about anymore...

I think for the majority of people, it goes something like:

Ok there's no Aliens here (on Earth), but in the infinite vastness of space, there's bound to be some place (in the entire universe) where there is currently space battles taking place, just like in those movies.

THat's kinda the premise of "The Universe" (heliocentrism), the odds of us being alone are nihil. These movies just visualize these ideas, make them tangible.

If they wanted to hide Aliens, or keep us away from them (or them from us, somehow?), it makes no sense to spend 100 years seeding these ideas into our minds.

Unless, again, they WANT us to think they're hiding Aliens...

I myself spend years brainstorming and fantasing about aliens, what they would like, their technologies etc... More recently I realised that it is exactly these mental gymnastics (about aliens) that is what TPTB are after.

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But hey, I'm just here to provide a different insight. Talking about aliens, ufo's and stuff is more mainstream than conspiracy in my opinion. I can open up youtube, netflix or even mainstream media (FOX and CNN went there lul) to find "news" and documentairies about aliens. It's mainstream.

Op you should read Jacques Vallee if this stuff interests you.

He is a French scientist who a) helped invent the internet (through his contributions to a precursor, ARPANET), b) was a close associate of J. Allen Hynek of Project Blue Book c) is one of the few people to consider the UFO subject in its totality, while trying to maintain as rigorous a scientific mindset as possible. Oh he is also a Silicon Valley VC type.

Seriously, probably one of the wisest when it comes to how to think about the subject. He's written a lot so if you just had to pick one thing to read, it would be his Alien Contact trilogy: Dimensions, Confrontations and Revelations. Dude's been studying this shit since the 60s.

Also, if you haven't heard... Disclosure is currently underway

Bonus content: Trailer for the new History channel show about Project Blue Book

Enjoy. Better sooner rather than later as I am one of those kooks who thinks that we're only a few months away from this subject becoming the #1 issue on the planet.

Lol too true.

Nope aliens are just that, alien. That's not to say that the tptb aren't impersonating them for reasons.

Oh yeah, totally. There is even some evidence that suggests they work together.

What makes you think anything we've learned about space, galaxies and the size of it all is even remotely real. We can't even prove that we had men on the moon.