I dont like this NY Limo Crash Story. The victims were veterans, professors, execs, engineers, businessmen, etc. HELP ME FIND OUT MORE!
1 2018-10-11 by BigRed112358
It is hard to find info on them from before the crash. If you search the name you auto get like 40 million results talking about crash.
Seems to me like a "think tank team" considering the wide array of backgrounds and relations. Maybe they completed their task and were being disposed of. IDK! HELP!
List of Victims and the available info on them: (taken from: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/nyregion/limo-crash-victims-new-york.html )
Savannah D. Bursese, 24 She was a 2015 graduate from Hartwick College, the school said in a statement. Ms. Bursese of Johnstown studied political science and business administration, and was on the volleyball team, the statement said. “Please know that our entire community stands with you in this time of grief, and they join me in cherishing Savannah’s memory,” Karen P. McGrath, the vice president for enrollment and student experience, said in the statement.
Rachael K. Cavosie, 30 Ms. Cavosie of Waterford, N.Y., was known as “Rach,” according to a Go Fund Me page that was set up to help her parents with funeral expenses. “Three months apart in age, we grew up together,” Alyssa Cavosie, a cousin, wrote in a Facebook post. “She’s a soul that touched so many lives including mine. She gave me so much guidance and even though she was the younger cousin, I looked up to her and often sought her advice throughout my life.”
Matthew W. Coons, 27 Mr. Coons of Johnstown was an Army veteran who worked as a personal trainer, according to his Facebook profile. He was Ms. Bursese’s boyfriend. “R.I.P. to my cousin Matthew Coons, his girlfriend, Savannah, and everyone else that tragically lost their lives on that horrible day,” his cousin, Amber Richardson-Iannotti, wrote in a Facebook post.
Patrick K. Cushing, 31 Mr. Cushing of Troy, N.Y., worked for the technology group of the New York Senate. In a statement, John J. Flanagan, the State Senate majority leader, said: “He was an extraordinary employee and a wonderful young man who was loved by all. He will be greatly missed by his Senate family.” His brother, Justin, said in a statement, “He loved, hugged and cried with his friends and family like their problems were his.” He was an avid photographer and played for Team USA Dodgeball. “Pat’s passion for the sport and always present laughter were infectious to those lucky enough to play alongside or against him,” Team USA Dodgeball wroteon Facebook.
Mary E. Dyson, 33 Ms. Dyson of Watertown, N.Y., near Lake Ontario, was one of four sisters who died in the crash.
Robert J. Dyson, 34 He was an Army veteran, an engineer and a CrossFit coach, according to WWNYTV. He was Ms. Dyson’s husband.
Amanda D. Halse, 26 Ms. Halse of Troy was described as a “charismatic person” by her sister, Karina Halse, in an interview on “Good Morning America.” Ms. Halse said, “I’m so grateful that she was my sister, out of everyone else on this earth.” Her sister had been dating Mr. Cushing for about a year, she said.
Brian Hough, 46 Mr. Hough was an assistant professor of geology at the State University of New York at Oswego since 2016. He taught courses in stratigraphy, oceanography, historical geology and paleontology. Katie Kent, identified as Professor Hough’s aunt, described him on Facebook as “an accomplished professor, an amazing husband, and daddy.” In a short time, Brian became a major part of our campus family,” said Deborah F. Stanley, the president of SUNY Oswego. “He was a dedicated faculty member who inspired his students to learn and understand at a deep level, and whose contributions were often sought by his colleagues.” Mr. Hough was one of the two pedestrians killed. He was from Moravia, N.Y., a small town southwest of Syracuse.
Abigail M. Jackson, 34 Ms. Jackson was a teacher in the Amsterdam School District, according to The Times Union. Amsterdam is a small Mohawk River city, about 30 miles north of Schoharie. Ms. Jackson was Ms. Dyson’s sister and one of the four sisters who died in the crash.
Adam Jackson, 34 He was Ms. Jackson’s husband and a friend of Patrick Cushing, who was the godfather to one of the couple’s two daughters. A GoFundMe page has been created to help cover college expenses for the girls, Archer, 4, and 16-month-old Ellie.
Allison King, 31 Ms. King graduated in 2010 with a degree in speech communications. She was from Ballston Spa, N.Y., a small village north of Albany in Saratoga County, and attended SUNY Plattsburgh. “This is shocking and tragic,” the university said in a statement posted on Facebook. “We grieve with their surviving family members and all who knew them.” Ms. King was the sister of Ms. Dyson and Ms. Jackson.
Scott T. Lisinicchia, 53 Mr. Lisinicchia of Lake George, N.Y., was the driver of the limousine. A Go Fund Me page was set up to raise money for funeral expenses. “It hurts me to a core to have to bury my husband,” his wife, Kim, wrote on Facebook. Richard Burke, a family spokesman and retired Mount Vernon police commissioner, said: “We express our condolences to everyone involved in the crash. It’s a tragedy. We’re waiting to see what caused this horrible crash. We have full confidence in the New York State Police and the National Transportation Safety Board investigation.”
Erin R. McGowan, 34 Ms. McGowan of Amsterdam worked at St. Mary’s Hospital and was studying for her master’s degree in special education, according to Rocco Semprivivo, her stepfather. “She was a pretty outgoing, gregarious girl,” Mr. Semprivivo said. One of Ms. McGowan’s best friends, Melissa Healey, 33, said: “She was always happy. She loved her dog, Remy.” Minutes before the crash, Ms. McGowan texted Ms. Healey and expressed concerns about the limousine. “The motor is making everyone deaf,” she wrote. “When we get to brewery we will all b deaf.”
Shane T. McGowan, 30 He married Ms. McGowan in June at St. Mary’s Church in Amsterdam, Mr. Semprivivo said.
Amanda Rivenburg, 29 Ms. Rivenburg was from Colonie, N.Y., a small town just outside Albany. “Amanda was loved by all of her co-workers,” said Steve Klein, the associate executive director of program services at Living Resources, where she worked with people with disabilities. “She was passionate about her work and everyone relied on her for guidance.”
James Schnurr, 70 Mr. Schnurr was in the parking lot of a popular country store in Schoharie when he and his son-in-law, Mr. Hough, were struck by the limousine. He was from Kerhonkson, N.Y., a hamlet 30 miles west of Poughkeepsie.
Richard M. Steenburg 34 Mr. Steenburg of Johnstown, known as “Rich,” is survived by his daughter, 10, and stepson, 14.
Axel J. Steenburg, 29 He worked for GlobalFoundries, a foundry that produces semiconductors, according to Lester Andrews, his stepfather. His older brother, Rich, worked there, too.
Amy L. Steenburg, 29 Ms. Steenburg of Amsterdam was celebrating her 30th birthday with the group of friends. The limousine rental was under their name, Mr. Andrews said. She married Axel Steenburg over the summer.
Michael C. Ukaj, 34, Mr. Ukaj of Johnstown served in Iraq as a Marine, according to The Times Union. “Thank you for your combat service, and for being my son,” his mother, Mary Ashton, wrote in a Facebook post. “I love you forever. See you in heaven, baby!” “Michael was a generous, caring young man, filled with energy and ambition,” a family friend wrote in the description of an online fund-raiserto help his parents with funeral expenses.
Im going to look into the company more when i get time and also want to look up the people mentioned in the article that werent in the accident but were somehow related to the victims:
Steve Klein, the associate executive director of program services at Living Resources (boss of Amanda Rivenburg)
Lester Andrews, stepfather of Axel Steenburg
Rocco Semprivivo, stepfather of Erin McGowan
Richard Burke, spokesman for the drivers family and retired Mount Vernon police commissioner (?!?!)
Katie Kent, identified as Professor Hough’s aunt
Deborah F. Stanley, the president of SUNY Oswego (where Hough worked)
Karina Halse, sister of Amanda Halse
John J. Flanagan, the State Senate majority leader (friend of Patrick Cushing)
Justin Cushing, brother of Patrick Cushing
Amber Richardson-Iannotti, cousin of Matthew Coons
Alyssa Cavosie, cousin of Rachael Cavosie
Karen P. McGrath, the vice president for enrollment and student experience Hartwick College (where Savannah D. Bursese garduated)
I dont know why but I strongly feel that this was no accident. Any help is appreciated as I already spent way too much time at work looking into this
59 comments
1 biancadee 2018-10-11
i started looking and thre are social media pages for them , if you want to trawl them just search each one at www.pipl.com
1 BigRed112358 2018-10-11
Social Media pages are too easily altered.
The fact that so many people are so quick to write this story off makes me think we should look even harder.
1 Canadian2nie 2018-10-11
I'm from Plattsburgh, neighboring town to where some of them were from, there's friends of mine that knew them and stories in the paper (small town, that makes front page news) of whole communities reminiscing on them growing up. Teachers, fellow classmates, etc.. I grew up in that area. The rural areas are close knit. How exactly did that lie of these people existing when they apparently didn't, according to you, suddenly become something everyone agreed to lie about?
1 Tukarrs 2018-10-11
It seems like a standard cross-section of Americans that can afford a party limo. They're more likely going to be affluent and have upper middle-class backgrounds.
1 biancadee 2018-10-11
yeah totally, i just looked up two victims and two of the people associated to them and they all check out. im not spending more time on them until there is real evidence that something is up. at least wait until all the autopsys are released
1 Sideshow2525 2018-10-11
You would think these types of people especially would check reviews/atleast look into the agency they are renting a limo from. Idk I'm not rich but I was looking into party buses once, and I did all types of research.
1 JCase455 2018-10-11
I heard they rented a bus but it broke down, so the company sent the limo instead.
1 Sideshow2525 2018-10-11
That make sense. It's random but I wonder if the bus was same company/had bad reviews or not. I mean it's just crazy that one bus broke down, and then the limo crashed. Wow.
1 workwork_workwork 2018-10-11
Not really, most privately owned businesses are running on shoestring budgets. Not surprising they'd skimp on maintenance. I don't have a source but I've heard others say they've failed inspections for their brakes before.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-10-11
or as happened in Alaska, the governors kid and mates cuts the brakes.
1 DonnaGail 2018-10-11
I heard that too.
1 DonnaGail 2018-10-11
Not necessarily. When people rent a limo, they just assume that the company is legit. They assume the company keeps their vehicles in good shape, passing yearly inspections, etc.
Yes, they might check reviews. But as far as researching the rental company, I don't think that is something people normally do.
1 BigRed112358 2018-10-11
Oh weird. I just looked at your post history and see that you recently commented on another post about Limo crash and tried to make everyone think it was just a tragedy rather than conspiracy there too.
I dont trust you! GTFO
1 Tukarrs 2018-10-11
It's absolutely bizarre that someone would have consistency of views. I bet you never post the same sentiment on the same subject in two different post either.
1 BigRed112358 2018-10-11
Well we are trying to figure out whther or not this is something we should look more into.
You posting comments with no evidence or anything of substance, saying these are normal people just does not make any sense unless the motive is to get people to stop looking into this.
1 cb7apache 2018-10-11
it’s not anything to look into, go the fuck away and find a conspiracy in something else but this you paranoid freak.
1 Vaedur 2018-10-11
Buddy I live in Schenectady about 25 minutes from where this happened . If you look in my post history you would see I’m from the capital district . My co worker knows almost all the first responders and when we talk about how fishy stuff seems he tears up. I never said this ain’t a conspiracy and something crazy happened, but when people are trying to say “no one died” that’s where I draw my line. I know multiple people who personally knew people who died in this. So it’s a bit heart breaking
1 Vaedur 2018-10-11
It is.. big red is making shit out of nothing. Usually their is a TAd of evidence in these posts.
1 gameslave2 2018-10-11
Comedian Owen Benjamin knew some of these people personally. He's been touching upon the story a bit in his recent live streams. Nothing conspiratorial, though.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-10-11
so we can all go back to sleep then. sweet.
1 Canadian2nie 2018-10-11
By your reasoning I could take anything, make any claim, and if anyone calls it dumb "YOU'RE ALL SHEEP GO BACK TO SLEEP MORONS"
1 GeigerGungnirGrape 2018-10-11
Look into what exactly the Steenburg brothers did at Global Foundries. Most I've found is that Axel was a Sr Integrations Technician. I believe that the brothers may have been the "target" and the rest were collateral damage/coverup. Global Foundries is owned by the Emirate of Abu Dhabi.
1 andrew_jacksanon 2018-10-11
No, the brothers were not the target of anything, I knew them both personally and went to the same school they did with them, I opted out of working at GF because the job is a miserable job. I can't see anything fishy going on at a semiconductor manufacturer.
1 GeigerGungnirGrape 2018-10-11
I can't think of anything why they would be targets, but don't you think it's a very very weird coincidence? Add in the FBI "informant" part and it just seems that things are not as they may seem.
I don't doubt that they all died in the crash, but I'm questioning the reason for the crash besides bad brakes/bad management.
1 andrew_jacksanon 2018-10-11
I'm up for suggestions, but they were plain Jane 9-5 boring type people... Good people, they did the right thing when no one would know if they did or not
1 TheFatKid89 2018-10-11
Your comment made me smile. There's nothing wrong with being boring people, especially in our area. That's not to say they had never had fun, or partied. I mean, they were going to Ommegang so they weren't a bunch of pegs.
1 bringsmemes 2018-10-11
didnt they partner with freescale semiconductor....that company where a plane full of employees died?
1 perfect_pickles 2018-10-11
Supermicro sever hacks ring any bells !?
that is a story and scandal is just hit the news.
1 Sharks_n_Colorado 2018-10-11
I read somewhere GF had a $755 million military computer chip contract. Just throwing that up there. Ill try to find that link again.
1 andrew_jacksanon 2018-10-11
PLUS, Global foundries is failing hard and scaling back on many many things as of late with a couple of their contracts falling through with a few of their main money making clients cancelling orders they were on track to make.
1 bringsmemes 2018-10-11
didnt they partner with freescale semiconductor....that company where a plane full of employees died in the malisia flight?
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1 BigRed112358 2018-10-11
Wow. If that is true that would definitley back up the theory that this was NOT an accident. Ill look around
1 bringsmemes 2018-10-11
let me know, im sure they did partner thoguh
1 bringsmemes 2018-10-11
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20100901006959/en/GLOBALFOUNDRIES-Freescale-Partner-Develop-90nm-Flash%C2%A0Memory-Technology
1 bringsmemes 2018-10-11
i thing global foundries and freescale semiconductor teamed up.
freescale semiconductor had a bunch of employees dissapear with the malasia flight.
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probably just a weird coincidence, but a weird one
1 perfect_pickles 2018-10-11
no such thing.
1 BigRed112358 2018-10-11
Only the illusion of
1 petsounds1 2018-10-11
Worked with two of the people and one of the girls was at my house once. Can assure you they're all normal people
1 BigRed112358 2018-10-11
Personal accounts offer us nothing of proof. All your comment is is an eyewitness account which offers no real evidence.
PLEASE NOTE: This is the first time that ive seen where so many people have joined the forums saying they personally knew the victims. Dont trust them.
1 petsounds1 2018-10-11
What would I have to gain by lying about something so random?
1 Canadian2nie 2018-10-11
I don't know why I keep this sub on my list, it's seriously just turning into some sad mental cases in need of meds. I used to read some for insight into "what if" or occasionally laughs.. Now it's just sad.
1 biancadee 2018-10-11
Schizophrenia is a real illness. Using it as a slur or attack is bullying and disrespectful to those who are sick. It also doesn't do anything but make you look like an online bully.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-10-11
so it was possibly a T4 style killing then.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-10-11
we are so lucky that all the friends of the deceased magially found r/conspiracy and this thread and decide to post their non stories here.
nothing to see, move along please.
1 BigRed112358 2018-10-11
Seriously! When else have we ever seen personal friends of the victims on here?
1 TheFatKid89 2018-10-11
I knew damn near all of those who died on a personal level, and apart from loving spending time at the gym they were all normal ass people from upstate NY. I think only 1 had any connection to a small local government. The engineer has been a resident of my small town since he was a child and he went to my girlfriend's families daycare years ago. The veterans were just good ol boys from upstate NY that wanted to help their country.
This isn't a conspiracy, just a tragedy. They've used this Limo service before for weddings and other get togethers. It's just negligence on the companies part, and an unfortunate law of averages when it came to poorly maintained limo's.
May they all RIP. Your families miss you beyond words.
1 BigRed112358 2018-10-11
I DONT BELIEVE YOU!
1 enfyte416 2018-10-11
You're a crazy person. I only knew of one of the people in the crash because I went to college with her, and its insulting that her death is being speculated online by people like this.
1 BigRed112358 2018-10-11
Why would that be insulting? We are seeking justice for the victims in a way. Enemy of my enemy type thing.
1 Canadian2nie 2018-10-11
Or you're retarded. Your claims are so severely lacking in any conjoined thought they're even to far for "I'm off my meds" arguments.
1 biancadee 2018-10-11
Being up or down voted shouldn't really be what matters to you right now if you're grieving why would you care what people online think. Just don't interact with the posts if they are upsetting you. It's not like this sub and post is all over media / social media for them to read. If I were you id have much more important things to be doing and thinking about than trying to convince strangers that this was real. It is very strange how many 'friends' of the victims have found this post amongst Reddit. I would think they'd be too busy grieving and caring for family of deceased.
1 TheFatKid89 2018-10-11
You're right, the upvotes or downvotes are pointless. My time in life is spent either at work, or home with my kids. And because I don't have much of a life, a lot of that time is spent on Reddit or Online. For me, part of that grieving process is reading everything I possibly can online. Unfortunately that led me Reddit. I now realize why that was a stupid mistake so I'll see myself out.
1 Ballsack-Mcgee 2018-10-11
It's probably the pre ritual setting up the big event in Paris next month. New York and Paris are aligned.
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1 Vaedur 2018-10-11
I used to work for Steve Klein, he works for a place that takes care of developmentally adults.. Your really gonna go Doxing HIm?? seriously?? Careful here...
1 BigRed112358 2018-10-11
Doxing has malicious intent. I dont think people are trying to "smear" him but he was mentioned so he should be researched like the others.
1 Vaedur 2018-10-11
Jesus Christ this is why people want us shut down
1 BigRed112358 2018-10-11
There are only 2 reasons why this sub would be shut down: a) to make it seem like we were on to something (tho we werent) to make us dive further into the false theory (fools gold) b) we were on to something (threat)
Unless either of those things are happening, then no one gives a shit about what we are talking about in here. I assume you were insinuating that this is just some "tin-foil-hat" type shit - in which case TPTB does not care. I appreciate your input tho.
1 Vaedur 2018-10-11
No.. because real peoples names being plastered on here isn’t great. I’m sure you would feel the same way. Sure we know it’s sketchy. There was a body found in the guys hotel yesterday who ran the limo service . But when the director of a business loses and employee to say we should investigate them is a bit much. It’s a bit off the deep end.
1 Canadian2nie 2018-10-11
I'm done with this sub after this, but sure as hell, next "Boston Bomber" type bullshit from a school shooting that comes, likely from this sub, I'll be not sad to see it go.
1 Canadian2nie 2018-10-11
Are you retarded?
1 Sharks_n_Colorado 2018-10-11
I read somewhere GF had a $755 million military computer chip contract. Just throwing that up there. Ill try to find that link again.