My mafioso great grandfather used to tell me how the mob killed JFK and exactly how they got away with it.
1 2018-10-12 by tequilaoperator
Hey guys! I’m Sal. I’d like to share with you something I feel you might find interesting surrounding all of the JFK theories. I can’t stress this enough and just how relevant and definitive this is surrounding his death. This subreddit has a huge audience and I’m really hoping this reaches as many people as possible!
My great grandfather Salvatore Buscemi was a soldato in Chicago Outfit and co-organizer of the St. Valentines Day Massacre. Saying he worked closely with Al Capone is an understatement. They were so close in fact that my great grandmother Theresa Buscemi cooked for the guys more than any other woman including the wives. It all started after my great grandpa ripped off a few bootleggers over the weekend. A few mob associates knocked on his door with a violin case and said “tomorrow, you work for us, if not, my friend here is gonna play you some music.” They opened the case and showed him a Tommy Gun.
After Chicago started falling apart my great grandparents moved to Southern California (San Bernardino to be exact). He ran a crew with a guy named Joey Dip (Joseph DiPilito). They had a deli with a two way Mirror from the back and they ran most operations out of it. He flew in a guy to SoCal he calls Momo (Sam Giancana). Giancana assisted them with opening a vineyard in Montclair, CA and creating a wine scheme.
Now my great grandpa ventured out to Hollywood to find some legit investors to open another vineyard in Santa Barbara. This is where Sam Giancana introduces my great grandpa to Frank Sinatra for the first time. They all hit off and spend a weekend in Vegas. While in Vegas Giancana & Sinatra discuss their hopes for a presidential candidate they kept calling Jacky Boy (JFK). Giancana worked with JFK’s father bootlegging back in the day and Sinatra really wanted a President for a friend. Giancana used his influence to help JFK secure the election on the behalf of JFK’s father and Sinatra. In return, JFK promised to stay out of their illegal affairs. But for Giancana this was an opportunity to control the White House.
Fast forward a little bit and Giancana spills some beans to a few associates (my great grandpa included) that he convinced JFK that his empire could not only benefit society, but the world. Therefore, JFK ordered the CIA to contact Giancana for an arrangement of covert operations including the assassination of Fidel Castro. Everyone laughed it off but my great grandpas friend Jon Rosselli confirmed. He even has the CIA wiretapping people on his behalf.
Giancana was ordered to send two guys with two pills to poison Castro with. Giancana took advantage of this opportunity and sent two guys to Cuba to do just that. But they failed and my great grandpa had no details as to why. But he suspected it has something to do with his brother, Robert Kennedy and the Attorney General at the time convicting a record number of mob associates. I remember my great grandpa saying “he is a meek man” and “can’t control his ugly brother.”
To make matters worse my great grandpa used to spend a lot of time with Sinatra. They would play pool and golf and gamble and hung out a lot at Sinatra’s lake house in Lake Tahoe. Marilyn Monroe was a frequent guest and so were the Kennedy brothers. My great grandpa at one time saw Giancana, Sinatra, Monroe and the Kennedy’s in the same room trying to fix a burned turkey. They met their in secret quite often. Giancana and JFK began beefing with each other because they were sleeping with the same woman. My great grandpa said he saw her picture, Giancana showed it to him a lot and he couldn’t understand why because in his words “she looks like bookworm.”
Months later Giancana lost his shit because JFK told him they are done. He wanted to severe his ties from the mob. To send a message to JFK Giancana murdered Marilyn Monroe on August 4th 1962 at Sinatra’s Lake Tahoe home. My great grandpa said they had moved her body over night and staged the scene. The message was clear however because Giancana had previously threatened to kill her if JFK wouldn’t continue to bend. After her death JFK took it upon himself to get rid of the mob and Giancana.
Giancana went to New York and spoke with the “commission” and received approval to assasinate JFK under the conditions of using a Patsy. They shopped around in communist sub cultures and found Lee Harvey Oswold. The perfect Patsy. Oswold was a known communistic, he wanted to move to Cuba and join Castro’s cause. Giancana and his men pretended to be alpha communists working closely with Castro. In the words of my great grandpa “Momo tricked the bastard into the whole goddam thing.” My great grandpa said there were two cops who were paid off to kill Oswald after he shot Kennedy and ran. That didn’t go to plan since Oswald didn’t know and tried defending himself. Oswald shot one of the cops and Jack Ruby an associate of my great grandpas and Giancana since Chicago finished the job and executed Oswald.
The night before the assassination Giancana, Ruby and many others were present in Dallas. They met up with Oswald again to go over the plan they had duped “Operation Victoria Siempre” a popular Cuban communist saying. Oswald was told that he is doing God’s work for the country of Cuba.
Well folks, that’s the story. My great grandfather passed on a few years ago. But we talk about this every Christmas and thanksgiving and my grandpa and aunts still tell it to all his day. I have letters written to my grandpa from Sinatra, Giancana, Capone and many others.
This story has even surfaced a lot in recent years. Quincy Jones, in a recent interview admitted that Sam Giancana killed JFK. I called my mom and was like “see!!” This is what happened.
Thank you for reading. I hope this reaches many.
Ciao for now,
Sal
70 comments
1 Red-Lantern 2018-10-12
Nice creative writing post.
No way a mob member's kid is going to dox themselves and testify about this. That's asking to get whacked.
Either this is bullshit or RIP OP.
1 tequilaoperator 2018-10-12
This info is very public. I swear to you this is true!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/frank-sinatra-the-kennedys-and-the-chicago-mob-2013-11
1 inepilogue 2018-10-12
If you really want to get into this, I suggest you start doing your own research.
Mary Meyer / Cord Meyer
James Jesus Angleton
Richard Nagel --- mind blowing on so many levels
Abraham Bolden (amazing man)
The Hunt Family --- Senior's Offices were located where / he flew where after the assassination?
Henry Cabot Lodge --- what did he run for? his son or brother lost to which Kennedy member in 1963 or 62
Oswald --- "The Interloper"
George de Mohrenschildt --- what are his family ties
1 tequilaoperator 2018-10-12
Thanks for all the great sources. This is just information from my great grandpa. Not really all that interested in doing anything else but sharing it with you guys.
1 bakamoney 2018-10-12
Great grandson from a dead empire. I doubt anyone cares.
Atleast until the day Op finds something concrete
1 ZeusLovesYou 2018-10-12
Shoes?
1 sequentialcircus 2018-10-12
Lol, yea probably.
Excellent post OP
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2018-10-12
When does the movie come out?
1 jcash21 2018-10-12
Also this story runs with the lone shooter narrative. Can't say I didn't enjoy the story, though.
1 fxkenshi 2018-10-12
Maybe the CIA used the mob which used LHO to kill JFK. Of course you must have at least a backup shooter if the "official" fails.
1 IncendiaryB 2018-10-12
What's more plausible? Multiple shooters or some Mafiosos who duped some dumbass communist into believing he was doing the work of the Global Revolution, covering your own ass in the process while having plausible deniability?
1 Houghs 2018-10-12
After 24 years of experience in politics myself I would say the mob killing him is most plausible. He wasn’t doing anything so drastic that a normal citizen would assassinate him.
1 teem0chan 2018-10-12
That mob member was his great grandfather, 3 generations apart. I'm sure most of their connections to this have died off by now.
1 owes1 2018-10-12
I have no reason to doubt this story. It's not the first story to come from the Mafia. Here's one example: https://youtu.be/__LxwaAEaL8?t=1077
And Sam Giancana admits it in his book Double Cross.
I don't believe this however. You're referring to JD Tippet. He could not have killed him as it doesn't fit the timeline and the witness descriptions. Although the murder was pinned on Oswald.
1 Correctthereddit 2018-10-12
And when you look at GW Bush's location at the time and attempt to set up an alibi, it's clear the CIA was involved.
1 lessislessdouagree 2018-10-12
Wut
1 Mythosrationality 2018-10-12
You mean G HW Bush, GW Bush would be the son and most recent war criminal of the Bush family.
For anyone wondering; George Herbert Walker Bush was for a time CIA director, and has given conflicting alibis of his whereabouts during the assassination. And there is a photo of a man(grainy and taken from a distance and not focused on him) with a very similar posture and height surrounded by government people in Dallas taken just after(iirc) the assassination.
1 Correctthereddit 2018-10-12
Oops, yes, that is what I meant, thanks!
1 alexoleszewski 2018-10-12
I have family in the mob this was a very common tale... the mob has no power to “whack” anyone anymore
1 Codesheem 2018-10-12
I was thinking this very same thing. The more I read it the more I could see this guy having a bad "accident". Then I read that bit at the end about a book and proof and I thought "this kid just got everyone killed if this is true".
1 PLTuck 2018-10-12
Fascinating stuff! Does the book have a title yet? I would like to read it when its available.
1 tequilaoperator 2018-10-12
Not that I know of! But the book is going to be based on my aunts experience as a kid in Chicago and my great grandpa. About how he used to get paranoid and hide out in Palm Springs every other week.
1 loomynartylenny 2018-10-12
this is a nice change from the usual 'deep state' bollocks1 kayakcanton 2018-10-12
So you're version is back to Oswald and the magic bullets? Oswald was the lone gunman? You kind of left out the important parts.
1 Duke_0f_Earl 2018-10-12
Lone gunman? He said Oswald was a patsy.
1 alexoleszewski 2018-10-12
I also had family in the mob this was a common thing discussed. They helped Kennedy get elected but he turned on them.
1 AFuckingShark 2018-10-12
I read this entire post in Henry Hill's voice from Goodfellas
1 Danzibar9000 2018-10-12
Yes! I defaulted to that voice in my head without realizing it.
1 Wvblazin 2018-10-12
Thisfuckinguy
1 inepilogue 2018-10-12
correction: Disfukingai (shakes his right hand, fingers pressed together)
1 Wvblazin 2018-10-12
I stand corrected. You've gota point with your index and pinky fingers while shaking your fist though.
1 inepilogue 2018-10-12
haha yes you do
1 pubies 2018-10-12
I did too, but I didn't realize it until I read your comment.
1 3dsplinter 2018-10-12
What rolling stones song was playing in the background?
1 Pancho_Lefty 2018-10-12
Really? What was Benny Binion's roll?
1 shadowofashadow 2018-10-12
The part about making Oswald a patsy doesn't make any sense. What did they trick him into thinking he was doing? If he shot JFK why did he say he was a patsy?
Your story is fun but you didn't seem to think this detail out very well.
1 tequilaoperator 2018-10-12
He is the pasty that bridges the gap between him and the mob. This is legit.
1 shadowofashadow 2018-10-12
But how is he a patsy? In your story he killed the person he intended on killing. He wasn't tricked or used.
1 atrime 2018-10-12
A patsy would be him being told he just needs to be somewhere at a time, and him doing nothing and then everything getting dropped on him
1 Eyedeafan88 2018-10-12
Ok he used the wrong term. He meant patsy because he thought he was working for the Cubans when it was really the mob.
Good story. Sounds as plausible as any other jfk theory honestly. But I do have one hang up. What did Ruby get out of killing Oswald? He basically forfieted his life for what exactly?
1 tequilaoperator 2018-10-12
Ruby was terminally ill. He had nothing to lose. He was old school from golden age Chicago and those guys were loyal til their dying days.
1 Correctthereddit 2018-10-12
Plus we still haven't seen all of Oswald's IRS documents. Very likely he was a government agent, not a communist.
1 OperationMobocracy 2018-10-12
James Elroy wrote a novel called “American Tabloid” which has basically the same narrative outline. The mob backs JFK and partners with the CIA to overthrow Castro to regain their empire in Cuba.
JFK doesn’t back the Bay of Pigs and combined with Bobby’s crusade against organized crime causes the mob to turn against JFK, leading to the JFK assassination, handled by some of the same shadowy mob/CIA freelancers involved in the Bay of Pigs.
Elroy’s book almost feels like a documentary but my sense is that the mob/Kennedy/Cuba framework has been out there for years and many derivative works have been built on it.
1 alvarezg 2018-10-12
It does seem doubtful that a conspiracy would have relied on a single shooter to do the job, even if it was Annie Oakley.
1 Orangutan 2018-10-12
J. Edgar Hoover agreed to cover it up for them too?
1 jrlovejr92 2018-10-12
I’m reading a book by Selwyn Raab right now called “5 Families: The Rise, Decline, and Resurgence of America’s Most Powerful Mafia Empires” and he gives a lot of credence to the mob killed JFK theory. He believes it was probably done by Santo Trafficante Jr (Tampa based mob boss) and Carlos Marcello (New Orleans based mob boss) and Sam Giancana (Chicago based mob boss) to get back at JFK and Bobby Kennedy because Giancana essentially won the election for JFK by rigging the votes in his areas, and he “thanked” them by unleashing Bobby on the mob when previously the mob had been a virtual mystery and unknown to most of the country, and nobody was taking them seriously as an entity. And then Bobby comes along and makes it his crusade to take down the mob. He says their thinking was “if you cut off the tail (Bobby) the dog (JFK) can still bite you, but kill the dog and the tail won’t wag anymore” so that’s why they went after JFK. There was more to it, and he got more into his theories of how it went down and all that but I can’t remember it all right now.
1 Fancy_Snacks 2018-10-12
The book "Double Cross" by Giancana's brother confirms that the mob and the CIA worked together to kill JFK.
1 macronius 2018-10-12
Hiya doing Sal, all I gotta say is never trust a wiseguy.
1 cking145 2018-10-12
OP never had the makings of a varsity athlete
1 owes1 2018-10-12
I have no reason to doubt your story. It is not the first story to come from the Mafia. Here's one example: https://youtu.be/__LxwaAEaL8?t=1077
And Sam Giancana admits it in his book Double Cross.
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I don't believe this however. You're referring to JD Tippet. He could not have killed him as it doesn't fit the timeline and the witness descriptions. Although the murder was pinned on Oswald.
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1 jodawi 2018-10-12
Luckily none of the US intelligence agencies could figure any of this out, otherwise the entire US government might have annihilated the mafia.
1 Non-equilibrium 2018-10-12
Its a plausible story. You left out the part about how they got away with it though
1 tequilaoperator 2018-10-12
The patsy.
1 Non-equilibrium 2018-10-12
did he mention anyone else other than oswald
1 devils_advocaat 2018-10-12
Now I'm going to go and watch the godfather trilogy again.
1 fartflap 2018-10-12
if true, these would be worth a great deal of money
1 drcole89 2018-10-12
Bull shit. Since when did this become a self promotion sub?
1 tequilaoperator 2018-10-12
Tell me how is this self promotion? I took time out of my day to share with you something relevant and authentic.
Take the time to dissect it yourself. You can google anyone named. They seemed to have lived where my great grandpa said they lived and did some of things he said they did. It’s a fact Giancana was in Dallas the day of the shooting. Wise-guys don’t go to the south, let alone Texas unless there’s a damn good reason.
1 drcole89 2018-10-12
"My aunt is writing a book"...
1 BeerBitchesAndBacon 2018-10-12
None of this is true.
1 tequilaoperator 2018-10-12
Fact check it and get back to me.
1 inepilogue 2018-10-12
hands off to you, way to tell a story. I don't question the mafia's involvement. However, has a JFK Assassination Researcher of 25+ years... I say, your Great Grandpa might have been telling you dramatized versions, embellishments, if you will. There are too many linked stories and controversies with others in this web that make it clear... involvement goes above and beyond just the mafia!
Also, my family comes from the mafia - deep. so deep, the fear of death was instilled in me if i were to ever reach out to them. REACH OUT TO THEM.. yet here you are relaying (what you believe to be true) insider information. hmm...
1 NoSound7 2018-10-12
Somebody never heard of omertà.
1 xcesiv_7 2018-10-12
sloppiest hit job ever. took a guy ~10 yards away to take the final headshot. lol
1 Raven9nine9 2018-10-12
So your great Grandfathers mob contacts told stories that Oswald was a patsy to take the fall for a mafia hit. I heard that same story and a whole lot of others too and all the while nothing confirms any of them.
1 brolome 2018-10-12
The weird thing about this thread is everyone is equally right and wrong, including OP. There’s no denying some of his claims, but through generational Italian storytelling a lot has been embellished, and a lot has been omitted I’m sure. That said OP it’s likely that our ancestral families crossed paths back in the day. If you’d like to talk in private about it I’d be interested in learning more about your family’s side and see how it corroborates to mine. Totally ok with leaving critical identifiers out for protection. PM me!
1 dirtybeatsinc 2018-10-12
hmm
1 theeeggman 2018-10-12
With no mention of LBJ I find this lacking credibility