Well put, and strong points made. Thanks, OP!

Excellent post bro. I was addicted to it and got into very unhealthy habits because of it that ruined relationships, spent thousands towards prostitutes even though I had a gf at the times who loved me, and ruined my sex life and my subconscious because of it.

Porn is 100% a weapon and a subconscious programming device and you should also see who the owners of the biggest free sites are to notice what the pattern is there.

These days, I have disconnected from porn, have reprogrammed my subconscious, am in healthy and happy relationship, and am stoic and ascetic when it comes to what I allow into my consciousness.

Also kriya yoga, prayer, books, meditation, exercise, hobbies, and keeping busy is all great

I’m a therapist. There is a growing number of healthy men that struggle with their porn use. There are real affects to the repeated exposure to porn. It’s not unusual for a man to have a difficult sexual experience with a person because they have both conditioned their mind and body to the porn and self stimulation.

Also, there is something to be said for the isolation and disconnection excessive exposure to porn can bring to men.

yup. long term porn use has a ton of side effects; purely by the addictive nature of it; probably explains how a lot of hollywood went pedo; hedonism.

They don't hide it now, they have straight up satanic/illuminati hypnosis porn. I'm all for a mindfuck but I draw the line there. Not to mention the objectification of women both by the industry and porn users.

I still remember quite a few years ago when porn was largely normal; its seemed literally overnight every title became incest/cuck related on every site.

trying to create a perceived normality perhaps?

Yeah, it was strange how things went from pretty much vanilla normal stuff to everything on every front page being cuckold, incest, interracial, gangbang.... almost like someone has an agenda they're trying to push

Yeah it’s honestly crazy. I can’t even look at the front pages anymore and have a few go to stars but other than that I try to avoid all that mess now

Interesting that you see interracial as being comparable to the others...

Why?

Because I don’t think interracial sex is comparable to sex with a family member or humiliation based acts like cuckold or gangbang

because you're implying that noticing that interracial porn has become promoted more and more in recent years makes you a racist.

God forbid you notice a trend

thats racist lol

I think advertising the porn based on the performers' races is absolutely the definition of racist.

Right... In my marriage and family, I'm a racemixer. But my wife is not defined by her ethnicity.

Well you put interracial alongside the other mindcontrol agenda pushing genres...That's what makes you seem racist.

Fetishizing race mixing is a mindcontrol agenda... Having two people of different races featured in a porn is innocuous. Carving that out as a fetish is racist.

Honestly managed to make me change my mind on this. Well put.

Well now I just don't know how to handle this interaction. Did we successfully resolve a conflict with words?

Globalists are trying to make us all brown. Promotion of interracial porn seems to be a good way to encourage interracial reproduction lol

this is the angle that makes sense to me.

More? Honey it’s not new. VHS sections in the back room of the Video Gallery had interracial sections.

Sweetie, I didn't say it didn't exist before the internet. I said that it gets promoted more and more. Doll, go ahead and go to your favorite page and see how many listings there are pushed to the front page.

All he said was that he thinks its interesting the gray ghost thinks interracial pornography is comparable to the others. The first thought I had of a logical explanation of interracial pornography is the assimilation of other ethnic groups into Western culture and capitalism/consumerism, therefore pandering to them in order to feed the system. I don't think that should be ignored, not when it is the driving force for so many systems in Western society.

When it comes to this multicultural stuff (which I have my own thoughts and opinions on which some may perceive as rather "conservative")- the basis is not always a matter of other groups invading inland- but a lot of the times, it is rather a matter of certain groups expanding outward on that which is foreign.

The basis of promoting of incestuous and humiliation-based acts, however, seems to stem from something else that I can't (and honestly don't want to) think of...

The fetishization and the promotion of interracial porn may have been part of some sort of agenda. I'm a racemixer in my family but I never had a fetish for ethnic girls... My wife and I just happened to connect on certain things and one thing led to another. Most people do not consider racial differences in their porn when looking for a selection. Interracial is a niche fetish, and it may have a big slice of the pie but it's still a niche, yet it is a prominent feature on every frontpage. There's analytics, there's data to support what I'm saying, interracial porn is overrepresented on frontpages. Haven't you noticed that racial strife has exploded in recent years? Is it really crazy to say the promotion of interracial porn could be part of some agenda to foster this strife?

Why is a gangbang humiliating?

Ask your mother. Seriously. You will feel humiliated.

I'm pretty sure he/she is talking about when interracial sex is obviously fetishized in porn, which is weird and messed up.

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I'll give you the cuckold/incest stuff, but if memory serves interracial and gangbang have always been a thing.

It has. I remember checking out videos circa 1995-97 at the video store and “ethnic/black on blonde” having a shelf along with Jasmine St Clair and Annabel Chong gangbangs.

IKR.

Confession: My first exposure to porn was from the softcore stuff they would show on Cinemax and Showtime. The actual acts were fairly "tasteful" and there were actual elements of realistic romance. So you can expect what my reaction was the first time I saw it online.

Everyone,

Please send me any weapons you wish to get rid of, I will be sure they are disposed of properly <EG>

Yeah Id like in on that too.

Oh yeah?

Porn and military service are both tools of preventing domestic anarchy and revolution.

Both largely target testosterone-driven male populations. By conscripting males 18-28 and sending them overseas and keeping them busy (or killing them) with military service, we don't have to worry about them protesting or demanding change domestically. By the time they are finished with their service, they are indoctrinated or past their wilder days.

For the rest who don't serve, giving them easy access to pornography allows them to be distracted and diminish their own testosterone stores, keeping them docile, distracted, and in a way, sedated.

You have to think about the military now sort of as just a source of income for young men too. Before you hardly got shit for joining the military, you just did it because you thought you were serving your country, which is an honorable selfless thing to do. We haven't really ever needed to be in any war, especially now that all of them for the past 30 years have been about getting oil. But yeah, I notice when I don't watch porn or beat off for a few weeks I feel like I have way more motivation for things because I'm seeking out dopamine from things other than porn and my testosterone levels can actually become normalized without getting drained a few times a week. It's oddly different from sex too, I always feel completely energized the next day after sex as opposed to using porn

Honest question: why isn't a single user in r/conspiracy pro-deep-state and anti-populace?

Where is the pro-deep-state sub?

Why couldn't such a person believe in conspiracies perpetrated by the peasantry?

/r/politics

"That’s right, porn can actually overpower the brain’s natural ability to have real sex! Why? As Dr. Norman Doidge, a researcher at Columbia University, explains, porn creates the perfect conditions and triggers the release of the right chemicals to make lasting changes in the brain."

Umm... Dr. Norman Doidge, a respected psychiatrist and lecturer on neuroplasticity who literally wrote a book called The Brain's Way of Healing on how these are not lasting changes?

Also, what's up with the source? Let me guess, the new drug is... porn?

FIGHT THE NEW DRUG: PORN KILLS LOVE™

Heeeeyyy I won a million dollars.

"All addiction involves long-term, sometimes lifelong, neuroplastic change in the brain" and regarding sexual plasticity "the main point is that in our critical periods we can acquire sexual and romantic tastes and inclinations that get wired into our brains and can have a powerful impact for the rest of our lives."

And yes, he has written extensively about how porn can destroy love relationships, often using clinical examples. "most striking were their reports, almost in passing, of their increasing difficulty in being turned on by their actual sexual partners, spouses or girlfriends, though they still considered them objectively attractive."

Did his 2015 book somehow discredit his own extensive body of work?

Fair enough, I'm not experienced with his other work outside the one book and some YouTube videos (and I guess my previous experience with the book was in relation to an ill family member), but I remember a much more positive take-away and a specific focus on case studies of the brain's ability to overcome those kinds of neurological changes?

I feel my point still stands that the posted link is literally from a site declaring a war on porn with the same wording and mindset of a war on drugs. Also, I feel that you personally make some great moral leaps back and forth in your SS, like:

I am speaking out against the very advanced, mkultraesque, violent pornography of the gonzo age that is creating a culture of sexual violence and insecurity.
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Nothing wrong with looking at hot tits online.
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A common argument in favor of pornography is that it has always existed. I agree, degeneracy has always existed, but not to the extent of what we see in the gonzo porn industry of today. I think it is disingenuous at best if a person is comparing Greek vases to Sasha Grey's gang bang videos. There is a big difference between prostitution (actual sex) and the mkultraesque flashing images and scenes of modern online pornography.

But thank you for keeping it civil, and if those quotes are accurate I will concede the point about pornography causing changes to the brain, according to the author. I still have concerns about your motive, and I feel that it is more morally-based than you're letting on.

It was not my post or submission statement. I have no motive here, friend. Just a question.

I am not too familiar with his 2015 book, so I just asked because I thought you might know. The first quote was from his 2007 book "The Brain That Changes Itself" and the second was from a 2014 paper the would have been written while the 2015 book was being worked on. If something new was learned since 2007, then it would be possible that Doidge, in good faith, would modify some of his previous positions. That being said, both positions you mention above have been thoroughly explored by Diodge.

It was not my post or submission statement.

Well, fuck. I did it again. Sorry, I confused you with the OP somewhere along the way.

Also, I definitely agree that quotes from years apart could mean totally different things. Like I had said, my personal take-away with The Brain's Way of Healing was that the brain has enormous potential to alter the way our thought processes work in response to external or internal stimuli, but the book's focus was on positive methods to use it to overcome mental illness and addiction.

Porn is addictive. The science is there. Addiction has been EXTENSIVELY studied. So what is your motive? What are the positive effects of a daily habit of watching incest videos? It doesn't have to be a moral issue but porn is morally corrupt at it's core. Maybe you personally enjoy moderate viewing of porn made by two loving, healthy adults. You would be in the minority. Healthy porn is always much less exciting and rewarding than spending time being intimate with someone. Sexually or otherwise. Yes cocaine makes things fun, it also make fun things less fun when not on it.

Nietzsche predicted this. He foresaw the end of western civilization's dependence on religion for moral guidance, and noticed that it would be absolutely necessary for it to be replaced with an equally widespread and well-defined set of communal values. So far, no replacement has been found, and religion's guiding hand is ever weakening.

That's all very true, and it's worth noting that at the same time as this is occurring, humanity is also going through a revolution which is only the 3rd true revolution in human history. The Neolithic revolution, the industrial revolution, and we're currently right in the middle of the communications / technology revolution. All of the old morals and norms are gone, we're experiencing instant 24/7 global communication which is completely new and has already dominated our lives, and people aren't sure yet what the new norms are supposed to be. It's a very rocky, confusing time for everyone

I'll have to agree with you on this subject. I didnt even know what the term cuckold was until it was brought up in this sub. The incest crap you see on the web is disturbing. Think about all the young kids that are in grade school and high school watching this. It kind of gives them the ok or normalizes it enough that it wont be looked down upon in the future.

No shit man. They or whomever is wanting this pushed so our kids grow up to this. Look at the are subs on reddit that advocate or show these images. 17 year olds and younger have straight access to this garbage.

Not really since it's those that wanted it in the first place that keep it going. It's only being made because people like it. If people didn't like it, then it would only exist in a small manner.

Big time. Its fucking scary. My son is only a year or two away from being exposed to it

Explain and protect him as much as you can.

Been trying since day one!

And why exactly should a fetish (as long as it doesn't harm anyone) be looked down upon in the first place? It's weird when you see a conspiracy sub wanting regulation in people's bedrooms / private lives when you'd think they would want the opposite

Your right in what you just stated. If that's what people want to do in the bedroom I cant stop them nor do I care. My problem is how easy it is for children to gain access to such materials.

Ah okay well then yes I completely agree...coming from someone who found this shit at a young age and looking back, probably shouldn't have lol. I'm not sure how much can really be done about that though on a societal level. But I do agree it's concerning

I too was young once and should have just listen to my folks better. But just talking about it with others in our age range could steer the way of the whole industry. Like I said I could care less about what consenting adults do behind closed doors.

It makes them feel fucked up and confused is what it does. Imagine heightened emotional state, viewing that shit and then having dinner with your sister and mother. It's alienating poison.

A weapon of mass... turbation ba dum tiss

Hit the knob on the head

Nailed it

Repeatedly

There’s a joke here but I just can’t finger it out..

I came.

Here for this.

That made me laugh out loud on a Friday. Take your upvote.

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Has anyone ever noticed how almost every title of Porn vids on the internet is "Fucking your sister" this "Fucking a young girl" that? Well what if instead of it just being a "conditioning" tactic, what if it's a trap and they will try and use you clicking on videos with sketchy titles as a weapon?

I have thought this as well.

It didn't happen as often before.

People try to play it off that our tastes are changing or people are coming out with their weird kinks. However, half the videos that say sister and such are just retired Brazzer or other content that has nothing to do with siblings.

Survival of the fittest. Click on something like that once, I get it. Twice. Maybe. Repeatedly viewing porn that is described as incest or child related, then I don’t really care how you got caught. You did. And if you think you won’t get caught, look into what HTTP is. It’s not just four letters. It’s a protocol. And your entire life on the web is not stored just one place. It’s distributed. Everyone potentially knows what you’re actually like. That is a good thing.

I wish I had a sister. This was before I discovered incest porn. mercy plz.

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What I've personally noticed is an insane amount of bbc porn and shit degrading white men. Basically next to 0 white supremacy black slave porn in comparison. It's almost as if someone has decided destroy the white race by tapping into their sexual subconscious. Look at all the useless fags pardon my language, addicted to soylent with their moobs and pot bellies and lumber sexual beards, who I can only assume fantasize about foreign invaders impregnating their girlfriends. You know they can't get hard for shit and get tired after 2-3 pumps anyway, and what else reason would they have for wanting this open borders bullshit if they weren't brainwashed into utter self loathing. Then you provide them with these "answers" as if it's just natural for you to be a useless shit so go ahead and let it happen, let the invaders come in and get your women pregnant even against their will because they want it anyway deep down and those guys over there already know all women love rape and are just playing coy, which you can't seem to get cuz you have this strange obsession with consent, no man worth his salt ever fucks with consent he'll rip that butthole open and she'll thank him for the opportunity to prove her worth, and then clean off the mess she made when he's done with her mouth because if she had lubed up and done some stretching exercises there wouldn't be all this blood all over the place, so make sure to apologize for that too. Meanwhile the impotent soy addict is like oh yes plz sir, may I have some more, as if it's the natural order of things for barbarians to rape women and for men with a conscience to just watch it happen, and this is apparently what the women want too because hey my bible says so, and there's this whole thing called the red pill where they teach you that all women are so unstable that 100% of them have daddy issues and love abuse but only if you go full psychopath only pussies go half psychopath and say something nice to her afterwords, and don't even think about saying thank you I had a nice time, and it's just a function of nature and you're a beta pussy if you don't accept the naturel ordurvz. Drink up nubs. You know there's cultures out there where they have the boys blow and drink the semen of the older men to apparently absorb their knowledge and experience. I think personally if their women did a better job cleaning their man's pipe they wouldn't have to resort to making up shit like that. The reason why they don't do it with the little girls is because cmon no one wants to marry a girl that took old man dick in her mouth, say what you want that's just nasty and would uproot the entire system completely, so they bite the bullet and make the bois clean the old man pipes. Kind of like in america how the infantry are boys slurping up old man general pipes, making sure his rod is clean and his wallet full of that green. Look I know the spartans were fags, but I just sense this connections between military and homosexuality.

Are you okay?

Yes, thank you for asking.

Tldr..Watch more porn with white men stallions, build trump wall, better to not have young boys blow old men than young girls, Spartans were fags, gays in the military will kill to protect eachother

I like you.

Yeah idk why I noticed that shit also

So much fucking simulated incest

A weapon of... ass destruction.

Spot on

Yeah ehats with all those inces themed clips on porn sites? Gross. That's where i draw the line imo.

It’s shaping behavior. Combine a stimuli with an orgasm and you are conditioning yourself to associate that stimuli with pleasure. It’s kinda like the way a fetish develops. The amount of readily available porn is concerning. It’s know that new/novel stimuli is more arousing than a know stimuli ... for example, what may start out as arousal by “rough sex” may over time after repeated exposure can lead someone down the road to violent, degrading sex. (Which may have never been the persons original desire but seeking the novel stimuli the person may increase the severity of the sex act) .

Also, it’s important to realize that this proliferation of incest, gang bang etc etc porn is changing people’s interest not the other way around. You are aroused by this because you are readily exposed to it. They are not making this type of porn because people have been asking for this type (excluding the part do the population where this is their natural interest ) they are producing it because they want you to ask for this.

I don’t know why this is happening, there are many theories. Also, I have nothing against porn, I am concerned about classical conditioning being used on the population.

They are also producing it because the industry as a whole is as poisoned as the people consuming it. More so. To be a producer is the height of degeneracy. Actually abusing people, children on camera and selling it. It's all so shameful. It's a poison which is why people generally feel like shit after an hour+ porn session. Shame.

The reason incest is an attractive category in pornhub is simply because people feel more connected to people they know and talk to so it turns people on, not because anyone is going to practice it at home or because it damages anyone's psyche.

At the end of the day if you think about it, having a normal relationship with your wife could be seen as incest if you argue your wife is part of the family and someone you talk to and close to you.

The 'forbidden' has always been a turn on. For me personally it's that they have much better scenarios and hotter actresses, I don't get off of just punding, I need a sexy story. The incest ones happen to focus on making a story.

Some types of porn are already illegal, as are many other Internet activities, they'd just use those to justify monitoring everyone's Internet. If they weren't already, which they are, so your point is moot. What you're really worried about is not being able to watch porn as freely as you've gotten accustomed to.

Your ad hominem is way off, as well. Incel types are the most pro-porn people around. And yes, there's some of those on 4chan. What gets most men going against porn is realizing that it has negatively affected their boner and ability to have sex that is enjoyable to the woman. Virgins would have no way of knowing whether they could stay hard for a real woman, and would probably just assume they could, and would never make the connection.

Most of us who are against porn are having sex regularly. When i see anti-porn discussions on 4chan i assume they're mostly men with families or relationships that they value.

"like what happens in real life". Not at all. Go ask incest victims. Or incest participants. You may have seen some on Dr Phil. Not quite as exciting when you take real life into consideration.

You are being intentionally difficult here. I said teasing, playing and building sexual tension instead of just jumping straight to sex is what happens in real life - talking about sex in general here, not incest.

I told you I do not have a daughter or a sister (and never had), so I am not fantasizing about fucking a family member. Did you even read any of what I wrote?

Yes I read it. Just speaking the truth. The truth is MANY of the teen's in teen porn are actually teenagers. You have no idea how old they are. All the eastern European and Russian teen porn is literal child porn with trafficked teens. All over pornhub and the like. You are fooling yourself if you believe any of them choose to be involved with the kind of criminals abusing them.

Dude, I was just saying that I could not possibly be fantasizing about fucking a family member, like you claimed I was. If you keep taking moral indignation perhaps people won't notice that you're not actually answering any of my points, or bringing anything relevant yourself.

Keep digging, LOL.

Yeah, all the videos on PornHub have the victims, I mean actresses flash their ID's before the video starts. I forgot about that. Listen dude.. do you want degenerate old fucked up men telling you the porn you are watching is good for you? Because that's who's telling you it's ok. And I'm not judging. I've seen it all. I'm talking honestly about it. I'm right there in the shit myself. It's garbage and unhealthy.

You have yet to present a single argument why 'porn is bad'. Yes, child porn is bad, but no, pornhub, which is a huge American company with massive revenue, does not host child porn, they would have been taken down by the police a long time ago if that were the case, so they are careful to make sure they keep earning big money. No, I am not fantasizing about fucking my family when I watch incest porn, I just like the story having some sexual tension. Too much of anything is bad, but as far as bad habits go, masturbation and porn is among the healthiest. Porn is not the cause of your virginity, sorry.

No, really, your comments are absolute idiocy. I can't possibly believe you believe this. Truly astonishing levels of ignorance here.

Congrats on one of the worst comments on reddit ever, LOL.

The incest shit was been online as long as I have so 22 years that I know of.

Have you ever read anything by Andrea Dworkin? You might find yourself agreeing with some of what she's had to say about this.

Why do you say you are not making your argument on moral grounds? If you're opposed to modern pornography because of the harmful effect it has on people, and on their communities, that is a moral argument, and I don't think you should be afraid to frame it that way.

I think I agree with you generally, but its a sensitive area. The US in particular seems to have a hard time understanding how one can oppose a practice, or try to discourage a practice, without criminalizing that practice or invoking the violence of the state against it. Pornography gets tied up so closely with legitimate issues of free speech and sexual freedom that its easy to understand how well intentioned people can find themselves on the side of depravity. Perhaps that was what you were trying to get at by saying yours wasn't a moral critique? That sex isn't inherently bad, and people seeing sex isn't inherently bad, but that the particular way that most modern Americans see sex is bad?

Pornography gets tied up so closely with legitimate issues of free speech and sexual freedom

Sexual Liberation and Political Control

You are very eloquent.

This is exactly why porn is great as we now have the option of not needing a relationship to have a satisfying chemical release. Bang one out and within a few minutes, you'll no longer feel compelled to find a GF and put up with a woman's BS 24/7.

I don't know about that. Got to stick to my budget. Plus I love more than one person that I like to spend money on.

You just haven't met that person yet that changed your outlook on life. But it's understandable to feel that way in this day and age.

I am more likely to agree with your point of view although I'm a bit torn on the subject I see both sides perspectives. Has anyone ever thought maybe we are being programmed to get married so that men are essentially feminized. How do we know marriage is the correct way to be? Personally I feel like women can be good company but 24/7 GF is a bit demanding and any sort of progress made to better man kind is forgotten. Women are all about having fun 24/7 or at least being entertained. Hence the song "girls just wanna have fun". If the men are married to women they are going to be essentially slaves to the women, who are mindlessly obeying the government every step of their lives. Since women are naturally less likely to dispute group thought. natural followers if you will, see "david koresh" and waco texas. Or the fact that women are 98% of the time victims of pimps. not men.

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I think the problem is Girlfriends are not very good at sex, and porn makes this very apparent. Girls just lay there or get way too excited. And GF's don't want to do alot of things that we see in porn. Thats for sure. My GF's are always afraid of my man essence , or sperm. Which I think is' kind of ridiculous since If I go down on her she is going to being getting some fluids in my mouth so whats the difference? Anal is out of the question for sure.. lol.

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All of my experience leads me to believe that men and women are not meant to be married in the current situation of the world. We are meant to hook up and be together for extended periods of time, but a whole lifetime? I dont think so. That would make more sense in a colonial type of world, where a woman would have a bunch of children and that would be her whole life. But today women want to have more choices and less children. Doesn't make sense to be tied to another person.

speak for yourself brah. My wife is extremely competent psychologically, partially as a result of my teaching her and discipling her for that matter, and she obeys me and honors me. Different types of people attract different types of people.

Are you talking about your wife or your dog?

my bad, are you not worthy to learn from or be obeyed for some reason?

Lololololol...delusional.

haha. So foreign to you that you don't even believe it's real! How does that feel for you?

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I don’t believe you’re superior to your wife. What I believe is that you found a weak minded woman because your fragile insecure ego could never handle an intelligent one.

an intelligent woman submits to instruction.

That makes literally no sense, you’re a delusional idiot. Keep dreaming about being superior to women when you know you’re lying to yourself because you’re just that insecure and pathetic

A man with a shit fetish who posts about groping women thinks he’s superior to me 😂😂😂

when did I post about groping women, probably never. I anticipated your attempting to attack me on the grounds of my post history, so I was scanning through my post history earlier. I didn't find anything objectionable in it, I guess you must've looked even harder than I did.

nobody said I was superior to women by the way, that's just something you're projecting onto this. Some people are in a position to lead other people, sometimes it's optimal for one kind of person to play a particular role unto another kind of person, it has nothing to do with superiority. I don't think it makes sense to make judgments about the value of human beings period, since where does the value even come from, and what bearing does a person's choices even have on it?

but yeah man, submitting to instruction, not that complicated. When a kid disobeys his parents and tries to do everything his own invented way, it doesn't matter if the kid is a genius or if the kid is dumb as bricks; he's not intelligent or high status for disobeying his parents,; he hasn't earned extra credit for seeking his own independence; on the contrary, his submitting to his parents is the most pragmatic thing he could do for himself, and his failure to do so indicates his childishness. Same thing with my wife and my marriage, not sure what's so terrible about that

What’s terrible is that your wife is not your kid or your property. You are disregarding her desires in preference to your own. The relationship is unbalanced and unhealthy...unless she just happens to get off on that. Maybe if it’s a master-slave sexual fetish thing, that makes a bit more sense if she really wants to be dominated like that. But that’s not women in general. Putting the idea of women “obeying” their husbands out there will get negative feedback because we are sick of that. Historically women have been suppressed and told to obey because their desires and ideas were considered less important due to them being inferior. Also there are many independent women who meet resistance from certain men in life all the time due to outdated gender-based behavioral expectations that generally benefit males only. That’s why women are being so vocal and annoying now. We are just not obeying anymore. It’s time for us to discard gender roles and accept that women differ in nature just as much as men, and can be just as complex, independent and ambitious. And when we have equal power we will be subject to the same criticism, expectations of behavior and responsibilities of male leaders. Women are not children. women are often the most hardworking and mature people around. Women have been shown to be the most effective leaders in business. Men don’t even have a concept of the strength required to be a woman sometimes, or what women actually go through and experience in their lives. They don’t want to hear about it, it doesn’t give them a boner. We don’t care anymore- we’re saying it anyway. We’re done.

Still I think it’s nice if you have a truly happy marriage, that’s something to be proud of. The groping comment was in reference to your first Reddit post about a sexual assault and harassment sub that should most definitely be removed from the internet.

I didn't delete the post, it's still there. It was a post requesting ownership of a subreddit. There's nothing wrong with the post.

I never presumed that my wife is my kid or my property, that's something you're adding to what I'm saying. What I do presume is that my leading my wife is the most advantageous thing for my wife. I don't disregard her desires; that's not what I'm talking about. Rather, I use my strength to lead her in what she does, so that she is not inhibited in what she does by her weakness. In her submitting to me, the correctness of my headship is revealed to her, and she is made to receive my acting in honor toward her in a way she could otherwise not receive.

I know that there are plenty of useless, incompetent, evil men out there, and that many are not using their resources responsibly, to put it gently. I don't blame you for seeking some alternate arrangement, or for not seeing what I am seeing. All I can tell you in response is this: different types of people attract different types of people.

cheers homie.

my point is not everyone can be so lucky.

I don't believe that, I believe different types of people attract different types of people. What I'm saying is, have hope dude, keep maturing, you will find a mature partner and you will also become equipped to handle one.

You may not be coming from a moral ground, but what a hell of a validation for it.

As listed in https://docdro.id/tOGC06z

I will never advocate the prohibition of pornography. I truly believe in freedom and a person's right to choose what he or she wants to consume. But man is it weird the people who vehemently defend porn use when porn use gets a touch of criticism.

why are you putting words in my mouth?

That's his job.

Yeah, it’s RFMN’s shtick. I think it’s a defense mechanism.

You do that quite often. That’s really all there is to it.

What if they want to consume child porn

leave the kids out of this

I truly believe in freedom and a person's right to choose what he or she wants to consume.

child pornography is wicked.

Do you think people should have the right to choose to view it

what are you even trying to argue lmao the context here is adult porn not cp which is a different animal.

Your distinction is completely arbitrary, it's a thing that can be consumed and some people want to consume it. You made no qualifiers in your statement.

You've had ample opportunity to provide a simple yes or no answer and haven't done so.

damn dude u rly made me think

Lots of people read this sub so if other people see my point and get it that's my goal

I say that there is a TON of what would be legally considered child porn on porhhub etc. As well as other illegal porn.

Agreed, similar to the gun argument - we can't say it's an all or nothing situation. When some overuse or misuse what they have available to them, it causes a cascade of problems. Let's use porn in moderation, folks! Balance it with an awful Rom Com to reset your expectations, like eating your vegetables after ice cream.

I haven't always agreed with you man but this hits the nail on the head.

Why stop at porn, the Spectacle has many faces

I mean if the Proud Boys wanna refuse porn, that is their hair shirt to wear

Hey i'm not the one scared of my libido here

Why did you respond to yourself?

I can't even watch the 'quality' of modern porn. It's gross

Any moral that is accurate typically can be empirically witnessed.

What’s funny is the same amount of upvotes on quite a few comments. It’s kinda crazy how transparent they are.

Is it manipulation, or simply the consumer pushing the industry.

This could still have pretty negative affects. For example: (Made up numbers incoming for example sake) If 30% like incest, then an algorithm to put the most popular videos up top would have more incest videos than others that maybe 20% into lesbian or whatever. The consumers interests are pushing this type of consumption in this scenario.

The problem however, is that then it pushes that in front of other people, possibly changing their minds like you indicated to then want that type of thing.

I agree that it can definitely be bad for you, and is causing some issues.

But I am not sure it is intentional manipulation, but could also be the consumption by a group of individuals causing an algorithm to put out the top videos that end up being what that portion are watching.

Somebody else mentioned who owns all of the porn websites, does anybody have that info?

Canadian company called MindGeek

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“Canadian”

This might have been mentioned, but check out the article, “The Butterfly Effect”. Just brings up some interesting info regarding the money behind the porn.

It's definitely consumer pushed. I mean porn gave us HD video and realistic prosthetics. It's like a neccessary evil at this point. I mean netflix was literally based off of porn delivered to your door.

That's why I stick JAV, the reason they still censor their videos is to counter the mind-control effects of more graphic pornography.

On one hand I hate censorship. People should e allowed to see something in its entirety if they so choose.

On the other hand, it leaves them to their imagination too. Sometimes not seeing everything can make something more attractive.

At the bottom of the financing of porn you will mind old money and foundations whose sole purpose is the depopulation agenda. Sure porn twists the mind, they don't care. As long as you're whacking it you're not creating babies.

Who though?

I’m not one to ever agree with porn stuff like this but tbh you may have a point. Idk if it’s as far reaching as govt involvement, as I think the industry (like any other) will produce what generates the most views/money which I guess now is cuckoldry and incest. It is weird though as others have said it kinda happened all of a sudden.

Anyways, I have noticed that since watching porn on a very frequent basis it is sometimes harder to actually find fulfilling sex with a partner. Not always but sometimes definitely.

If you look at almost every single Internet porn company it is owned or at least somewhat run under a company named Mind geek along with a few others, and if you look at them the CEOs are (((trusted flaggers))) also noticed how more to generate pornography has become more and more socially excepted, Incest, very under age looking actresses, and if you look at digital art it gets even worse. In my opinion the reason that (((they)) Do this is to weaken what we know as the west as well as Asia, great example of this is Japan, men in their country don’t know how to talk with women and their birth rates are in the negatives.As the white European becomes less and less common it will be easier to replace them. This is also one of the main reasons for open immigration from South America into the US as well as sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East into Europe. It’s systematic replacement. At least that’s what I think

This is the best original content I've ever seen on reddit. Great job, man.

When I discovered a porno magazine at nine years old, I thought it was the most bizarre thing in the world that a sheet of paper could give you a hard on. I mean - a sheet of fucking paper, man! I thought men were supposed to be strong. How easy are we to manipulate?

We're all staring into a fucking light bulb - even right now. Light bulbs can give you a hard on, too - but what else can they do?

We're so easily manipulated it's not even funny. Pornography proves this beyond any doubt, yet we continue to hold ourselves responsible for our thoughts and our actions.

I was recently reading that we used to warn kids against the drug dealers on the corners handing out free drugs to get the kids hooked and more sales. The article argued that porn companies are modeled in a similar way....get free porn out there, get people addicted. Changed my perspective a bit!

Except that porn addicts never have to pay for it.

Yes they do. That's the point.

I meant monetarily...

Plenty of porn websites like PornHub and Men.com have a lot of content locked behind a premium paywall. (You can also buy it by the video but almost nobody does that.)

Who the hell pays for that? No one I know. Other sites re-upload that locked stuff for free.

Well whoever the first one to re-upload it technically did....

Or is a good hacker...but yes, people often take one for the team.

Who the hell pays for that? No one I know

You discuss your porn life with people? “No one I know” in this instance is dumb.

Yeah, because of advertising.

Porn is advertised less than any other thing. Zero mainstream adverts. People just search for their specific fetishized and then buy it once they can’t find anymore free content.

So there seems to be a more sinister goal than just making money. I wonder if its Eugenics. Or maybe orn trying is meant to undermine brain waves. Of course meeting the eventual goal of mass manipulation.

What would the Eugenics angle be?

Well, its actually a long plan if eugenics are involved.

Porn creates long-term malfunctioning sperm problems. Cases of epididymitis caused by over-exertion (too much jerking off) are at a 200% increase since 2001. This means (at an epigenetic level) they're sperms are going through constant change. For long-term quality of sperm, this is not good.

Healthy children are born to healthy young adults. Young men who jerk off too much are more likely to be fat and not able to have normal sex. Then when these fat adults finally do settle down and find a wife, theyre children end up being fucking mongoloids because their fathers are fat, porn-addicted head cases. These men are lower in testosterone in their middle-age, and these traits are passed off to their children.

When these men pro-create, they are creating a generation of weak and addiciton-prone children. In the future, the difference between well-bred humans and the rest of society will be stark. This may take several generations.

By that time, will all this cuckolding and incest, we are going to have an entire population of babies with birth defects and who come from broken homes. This will be a slave population.

Although who is to say that isnt already our present.

So you think porn is changing users' genes making people and their offspring weaker and/or more docile/subservient? I'm not for or against your theory by the way, I'm just asking for clarification.

Not only changing genes, but narrowing the amount of healthy partners available. To be clear this can be true both in obese households and other broken households.

Ultimately, it comes down to the family. A healthy family unit is the single most important factor when it comes to raising healthy adults.

Porn, or any other addiction, is whats setting men off course. Society as a whole is depraved. Porn is the thing that has climatized our society to this.

I wish your entire post could be illustrated and published in one of those health textbooks for health class taken in middle-school and high-school. It could really motivate people, especially teenagers, to stop tolerating pornography and think for a second that pornography might not be a very good thing for their growth into adulthood. Too much of "it's okay to masturbate to hard-core violent cuckolding pornography!" (i don't even know what people watch these days but i've read that pornography is becoming more violent, depraved and weird) kind of thinking going on... how do people watch that stuff and feel clean afterwards is beyond me.

I used to disagree. But, I gave up porn about 2 months ago. Huge improvements to my sex life and actually overall. It was tough the first two weeks. But after that now I actually can’t watch it. Too violent.

Good post OP a lot of people overlook this part of the conspiracy.

So u tried watching it but couldn't handle the violence? Of porn???

So u turned off the porn before you got off?? No fuckin way greatest conspiracy on this site if u say it's true lmao

I didn't use porn for 1 year in my last relationship. Didn't do jack shit for me, plus she didn't put out as much as I wanted, so I was just blueballed all the damn time.

Nofap works for some, but is shit for others.

That's because you were brainwashed into thinking you need it. You even said it yourself: "Plus she didn't put out as much". What does that tell you? Exactly what I said. You are brainwashed into thinking that's what you needed. Substitute your "blueballs" for VRIL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn4UDTWEF_s

That’s right, porn can actually overpower the brain’s natural ability to have real sex! Why? Well..... std's.Availability, variety, low cost, nobody gets their feelings hurt, no unwanted pregnancy and my personal favorite no chance of STD's.

There is a big difference between prostitution (actual sex) and mkultraesque flashing images and scenes of modern online pornography.

I think it's important to keep the ancient Reality in perspective though. These girls weren't usually willing, weren't usually over 18, and didn't usually grow up to be very old. They may not have had pornography but sex slavery and the sex slave trade was a very real part of the ancient world. It's a trade off of evils- I wouldn't say it was better though.

Thanks for posting. The chemical withdrawal is what I think it’s for. We have access to it now, but let’s say the power goes off for months or years. What will you do then? You might go crazy and force others to get your fix.

I disagree. The bible has it correct here: the man and the woman should give their body to the other one in marriage. Porn actresses may not be married but they showcase this perfectly.

So I don't believe the problem with porn and fornication is not the sex act, the problem is the lack of marriage.

The reason incest is an attractive category in pornhub is simply because people feel more connected to people we know and talk to, not because they are going to practice it at home, or because it damages anyone's psyche.

I'm just gonna say that starting from the very basis of how we're supposed to understand sexuality ( the Kinsey studies) are covered with allegations of child sexual abuse and other non ethical behavior. Also, the orgasm is a free drug.

It's not free. You pay in bodily resource and finite mental capacity.

You're right I agree

Agreed! Gave up porn 6 months ago and I'm never looking back. Shit fucks with your mind.

Dude Im seriously considering doing this. What should I do when I have urges though? Just use my spankbank?

Just the spank bank. After the immediate gratification feedback loop with porn was stopped and you detach from it, spank bank becomes more enjoyable anyway. You are the master of the fantasy 😎

Spank bank = internal thoughts?

Yeah - your memories, real girls in your life.

Sound like charity donation.

Walk. Stretch. Breathe. Put your attention on your mood, physical response and internal dialog as you become more compelled to use porn. Regulate mood with l-tyrosine and 5htp. Don't take it everyday, only after you become more aware of your rhythm. Porn is a full addiction. Pound off if you need to BEFORE going to porn. Lot easier not to look after you blow a load. Think about the people in the porn and how shit their lives are, how out of control or victimized they are to allow or want a video like that out for general consumption. Think about their lives moving forward. As they age, how that burden negatively shapes their lives.

Thanks so much for this. What about porn depecting fictional characters? Would that be ok you think?

A lot of "pro-porners" or "pro-sex positive" (read: seemingly most of society) would say those porno actors and actresses 'enjoy it' and are 'in control of their body'. human's rationalization of depravity and immorality has no bounds when society is sitting in a hedonistic basin.

Build up Vril. Look it up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn4UDTWEF_s

What should I do when I have urges though?

How do you break a smoking habit by smoking?

Learn about time delimitation and learn to practice things and study. Self improvement and remind yourself that masturbation is self detrimental.

Remind yourself its detrimental because its wasting energy, both now in the "action" and later when your body spends resources to recoup what you literally flushed away.

remind yourself that shitting is waste, before you prepare a meal and it'll get you to think about what you need to eat that won't turn to waste.

It's all circular, follow the rabbit hole to perfection

It really does, it becomes an addiction, I'm improving though I went from masturbating daily and feeling like shit to doing it twice a month.

Interesting point of view. I'd also like to add that it has the effect of some form of birth control because less people need sex with the use of pornography.

This can be very useful for societies that are over populated or approaching.

And yes, it may be very heartbreaking that the relationships between men and women have deteriorated but this is just part of our evolution.

People dont want to commit incest, its just an easy scenario to act out.

You know most sites you videos they think you'll like based on your viewing habits. I'm just saying some of you guys are telling on yourselves.

Yeah I never see cuck or invest porn only big natural tits like a normal guy

I don't have incest porn views on my Pornhub account, nor cuck porn, yet Pornhub insists on that crap being the first section on their website when I visit. There is a "recommended for you" section which does host the correct videos I enjoy, but I don't watch any of that other crap and it still comes up as the first videos on the website.

Yeah I only get hentai ads

Lol same here

Since we're on this subject.

I only enjoy solo porn of females masterbating. Anyone else a boring old prude like me?

I don't want to see some guys junk while I'm trying to get off.

https://youtu.be/rFzYF_eldSU

What gets me, as a seasoned masturbator, is how much porn has changed. Once it was "lonely housewife meets plumber" or some variant. Then it became "all women are potential whores" -- "Debbie Does Dallas" through "Bang Bus".

But now the Porn Hub front page seems filled with "step" sister, "step" daughter, "step" mother storylines. Ugh. ot that plot matters in the videos themselves, but it clearly does to the titles or they wouldn't be putting them on there. Also, hardly anybody even pretends to feel the slightest affection. They barely even pretend any excitement. It's more like watching aerobics.

Look, I get it. Watching transgressive behavior is exciting for the viewer, and the more transgressive the better... up to a point. At some point, horror and/or disgust is supposed to kick in. It has for me. I don't look at any of those sites any more. Heh, sometimes I regret throwing away my old VHS tapes from the eighties. The pictures weren't as clear, the people weren't as fit (and a lot more bushy!), they took a lot longer to get to sex, and there was a lot less sex per minute... but they were a hell of a lot more erotic. Some even had decent plots!

I wonder who would promote cultural degeneracy as part of an agenda.

Spoiler alert: It's the Eskimos.

Oi v**

hmmmmm

Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation Political Control by E. Michael Jones

(E. Michael Jones is in Corbett's league)

Excellent post, right on the money! Wouldn’t be surprised if the CIA is behind PornHub and all the others too. Porn addiction has destroyed countless lives and it’s only getting better. Picture a once happy confident family man sitting buck naked in his newly rented one bedroom apartment. All alone of course with a stupid looking VR headset on beating his meat till it’s raw watching the newest VR porn! Hold on to your masculinity men!!! Don’t let them take it from us!!! We are better than this!!! It’s clear to me that the government must be behind this. If they really cared about it, there would be some controls in place to protect our society from this attack.

Yikes, that imagery really did put a sour-taste in my mouth.

I wanna add that even in the YouTube comments, I always run across comments about VR Porn, or sex robots.

Then again, this type of stuff is really low-vibrational and you can tell those who are leaving those comments are immature. I try not to pay it any mind.

I find this very interesting. What's your opinion on written pornography or erotica? Without pictures and the like

here's a challenge for anyone who doesn't believe in nofap.

go 2-3 weeks without masturbating/ejaculating at all... then go ahead and rub one out... and see how you feel the next day.

they want to push porn/masturbation as normal because it keeps you docile, sedated, and weak.

i believe it. even here on reddit gonewild is designed as such. half those accounts aren’t real girls. population control and mind control are (i think) the goals but can’t really prove this.

lol

Is that not just the law of diminishing returns? Obviously if you masturbate every day it's not going to be as good as doing it every 2-3 weeks. Same with anything really

I think there is manipulation going on btw just continuing the conversation

I'm not talking about how it feels in the moment heh.

I mean how good you feel overall and then the day after you bust a nut you will feel lethargic and weak. I think most people who masturbate daily or every other day don't realize the weakened state they're in.

Boxers and MMA guys agree with you. No sex or masturbation for a month before a prize fight.

And Qigong masters. It's science. There's a lot of information related to this dating back 1000s of years. Regulation and control of ejaculation leads to longevity and life.

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I already only masturbate 1 or 3 times a month at most. And I’ve never ejaculated because you know I’m not a dude. Makes me wondering what you guys are doing.

As far as I'm aware, the male norm is at least four times a week.

You mean a day

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I went 140ish days w/the nofap thing. Avoided porn too. Honestly made me feel suicidal and depressed. Porn, I realized, while a lie/drug of sorts, was still better than the cold brutal truth of reality. Which is to say that all drugs have their place.

That's the drugs talking.

Can confiem. I did no fap just to try it once and lasted 11 days. After that fap, the next day I felt extremely sluggish, like my life force was taken or something. I felt exhausted mentally and physically. I do think there is some truth to is as well. Some of the benefits I've noticed most was increased focus, confidence, and I couldn't sleep over 6 hours but felt really well rested.

I do think there is a problem and that porn itself can be really dangerous. But I also think it depends on the person. Forinstance there are people that need more to receive the same stimulation mentally, and this is where they will seek more exotic types of porn that are more out of the norm of reality. I think for these types of people, porn is a much more dangerous thing. I think for others it's not nearly as bad if they are looking for typical guy on girl. But I still think it's potentially dangerous regardless. I think their should be more studies on this.

Has anyone else noticed that an unusual amount of women like to be tied up, spit on, slapped, punched, choked, hurt, degraded, humiliated? So many women want sex to be ugly, humiliating, painful, and shameful. I’ve only slept with 22 girls but at least 50% of them wanted to be hurt and it made me feel really weird. I don’t like hurting people, but they acted like they made it feel good? That can’t be normal, and I didn’t understand why they were begging to be treated that way. I did a lot of research into it, psychologically it seems to be a manifestation of their own lack of self esteem. But after reading your post, I can’t help but feel like their desires must be heavily influenced by the pornography they watch. Someone won’t just wake up one day and asked to me fucked, punched, choked and called a pig, right? They must have seen it somewhere first. My only question is, why? What are TPTB gaining why psychologically damaging and implanting these desires in so many women?

Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by market demand. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy to explain why these keywords are popular. The hidden powers don't have to push vice upon us, we're more than happy to heave it on ourselves.

nah there's definitely feels like a sudden and unnatural shift with how perverted the shit has gotten.

I hate this to you, but most likely you've just recently started noticing it. Maybe it's a recent development with how easy it is to access sick shit, but that sick shit has always been available.

I can attest to being dragged into the porn hole. It prevented me from having normal sex with my now ex-wife. I just let it get into my head, totally on me.

Doidge is a hack his book is written like dogshit

I miss the good ol days of getting a VHS at my local porn shop and using that one video for the next 1-2 years. Then, when it came time for the moneyshot scene, it was all scambled because the VHS was worn out from rewinding and playing so many times LOL.

JUST GOTTA TIME IT RIGHT...AHHHH

The genders are being divided from multiple angles. Western reproduction will fall to an all time low.

I was watching a documentary about sex lives of couples in Japan and this one poor lady was in a degrading situation where she got on him and he told her to wait a second, he got his phone and turned on porn and got off that way. No intimacy with his wife or anything. She said she felt so degraded. Felt so bad for her.

That's a story I've heard a lot from women. It's very, very common.

I would suggest any podcast fans to check out Jon Ronson's (Men who Stare at Goats, psychopath test, Frank) podcast called the Butterfly Effect.

It examines the rise of free streaming pornography starting with the algorithm developers for websites, working in the porn directors and how their business suffered, and pornstars that are falling to the wayside to the algorithm (Such as one pornstar mentioning that she cannot act as a 25 year old porn actress without having an excessively large ass to fit into the pre-milf 'big ass' sections.

He also examines a child with an intense pornography addiction and Asperger's or autism, I'm not sure which it was off the top of the head. This kid's entire interactions with women are basically controlled by what he sees and subsequently kicked out of school for telling a girl he wanted to hold her down and fuck the shit out of her.

It's a very interesting listen, the final parts goes into freelancers who have found a niche market in making kink videos, such as one dude in Norway who had a huge stamp collection. He was so ashamed by his hobby that he hired one of these niche camgirls to burn it on video while making fun of it.

It's a wild ass ride.

Porn is really ideal when crowd sourced, no industry just regular people who aren't opposed to filming and posting themselves having sex like normal humans. Weird shit will pop up but it will be the product of an individual, not some highly organized push into sex=violence like you mentioned.

We must realise that we are being manipulated.

really? for what purpose?

you make no claim other than it is degrading the relationships - into what end?

your claim is an emotive religious statement that contains no substantiated proof.

animals and humans seek dopamine rewarding pleasures bc the brain is wired that way...

to say its a "conspiracy" and that its MKultra'ish is just a laugh

Your comment history says it all. What a dumpster fire. Keep living in your bubble and jerking it til it’s raw.

bravo :)

Actually, a very enlightened opinion, you hit upon something that has actually occured, during the Nazi occupation of europe the Gestapo flooded occupied area's with low grade porn of every stripe as a way of pacifying the locals.

I feel quite sure that you are correct. Porn can give kids twisted ideas about sex, and destroy male-female relationships by giving unrealistic expectations/understandings of relationships.

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It was one thing if dad got a copy of Playboy 50 years ago. It is quite a different thing to have Pornhub pumped into your house 24/7.

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It is worthwhile to note that one of the stated objectives of at least one Jewish porn actor was to destroy the culture of the Christian majority around him.

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Porn is very powerful stuff and that is why they use it.

It is worthwhile to note that one of the stated objectives of at least one Jewish porn actor was to destroy the culture of the Christian majority around him.

Source?

I can7t find the thing I read but here is something similar: link

Thanks.

When is your average man at their creative and imaginative peaks these days?

Does having readily available pornography atrophy those capacities?

Are there broader implications of this?

This will sound absolutely nuts, but it is true. I have a close friend who is now a very successful surgeon. This guy is a high level genius and the most honest person I have ever met. He told me when he was med school he was "experimenting" with things that may alter perception. He swears that while in an altered state he was viewing porn on a computer. He said he could see what clearly looked like Reptilians/Demons superimposed on the adult performers, almost like shadows. His opinion was that somehow these beings were parasitically absorbing the sexual energies of the people viewing the pornography.

The guy that told me is 100% convinced that what he saw was really there. It seems porn is a feeding ground for malevolent entities. It keeps humans focused on the lower chakras and therefore a very dense low vibrational level.

I have actually held the same belief for a while now. The first chakra is primitive animal energy and it actually terrifies me how everyone is focused there constantly to such unhealthy extremes. I don’t talk about it much because people think you’re crazy but this is how I view the world. Maybe because I’ve done a lot of experimentation as well. But obviously you don’t have to be empathic to know that porn addiction is unhealthy.

He saw his own subconscious interpretation of what was going on. Just imagine someone doing porn purely for the money, not ejoying it. Even if you consciously don't see it as obvious your subconscious might pick it up.

Lol wtf. I actually know a dude who is a pretty successful lawyer and I heard similar rumors about him saying stuff like this (apparently he uses drugs on the side)

I used to date a woman who had “powers”. She would feel heat in her hands in certain churches, she could see auras, heal certain ailments, etc. She did not talk about it as she realized it was “abnormal” and didn’t want to pass off as crazy. It fascinated me so I would question her and try to learn as much as possible about the world she was living in.

Anyway, she said the exact same thing about porn. She also said this about most people on TV, i.e. actors (whether journalists, politicians, or overt actors).

Yeah that is reptilian theory. That doesn’t surprise me.

Pornography will one day be looked at like a drug

It already is.

However, in this day and age, porn is safer for the average man to consume over having sex with an actual woman, for fear of traps they walk into that women set.

I'd much rather use porn than risk bringing hellspawn (children) into this earth and having my life taken away from me via money-sucking child support and bitch exes. I have enough of those already.

I'm pretty sure the "pushing the more extreme porno" stuff is generally a small subsection of the people that watch porn. I do agree that porn is conditioning most people to take it over having sex with the other sex, something that happened to me as well, only because sex is too time consuming and I only have so many hours in my day to get a woman worked up. It's just not worth my time. So, porn is there. 5 -10 minutes on a website, blam, I'm done and back to what I want to do with my time.

Much safer than a relationship and more life-fulfilling.

Lol I don't think its so much the safety of sex as the convenience vs having to go out(making sure you look good nd presentable), risk your ego, money, etc, then gamble on the chances you are successful and that the chick doesn't back down at the last minute, etc, etc

Yes, it is really easy to run away from your issues and avoid learning about why you can’t make a relationship work. But you should keep watching porn and leave procreating to healthier people anyway so carry on, carry on.

Unfortuantly you are correct which bothers/offends a lot of people.

Lol it's the liberals that are making cuck porn popular

Most porn is a hell of a lot more wholesome than murderous violent garbage like Game of Thrones.

Watching people fuck is a hell of a lot more healthy than watching them murder each other. Get a grip.

There's rape victims in both porn and Game of Thrones. Only pornhub blatantly advertises and pushes what is legally considered child porn and other criminal acts on video.

Millions of Americans cuddle up on the couch eating snacks and watching people being beheaded, disemboweled, burned alive etc. Then they go to work the next day and talk about it around the water cooler. All of this is considered normal.

There's a lot of sick porn out there too, but people often overlook the degeneracy of popular entertainment when it comes to violence. It is more socially acceptable to show a woman being raped and murdered on television than to show her enjoying sex. It is a sign of a fucked-up culture.

I dont think it's more acceptable to show simulated rape and murder of women than it is to show women enjoying sex. Not true at all. But I totally agree that the entertainment industry pushes the limits of what is acceptable and it has an overall negative effect on people. Especially children. And ultimately the people in the entertainment industry and porn industry that promote garbage are screwed up themselves.

OP should never go to Japan lol

Heh, I kind of messed myself up getting to into some of the Japanese stuff... Variations of bukkake and multiple guys with a girl kind of stuff. and it definitely was effecting my sex life negatively.

Gave it up 6 months ago and have a much easier time enjoying my 'vanilla' sex life!

We have a whole generation of young prepubescent boys who have easy access to hard-core porn, just a few clicks away at any given time. We are definitely beginning to see the effects of this on society, in many ways. Early onset of E.D. being a major new thing I see mentioned often in r/relationships & r/sex. A lot of young guys have unrealistic expectations of women sexually. They seem woefully ill-informed about intimate interactions in general, & it often leads to treating women like shit. Over-masturbation to porn often causes loss of erections in the middle of sex.

Major disconnect seems to be developing between many younger men & their female counterparts with regards to intimacy & I think porn is part of the problem. Actually let me rephrase: Easily accessible porn for young boys who form beliefs about sex based on that porn, is part of the problem. This bad information gets perpetuated within their peer-group (the worst source of information for young boys), especially since this is not something these young kids talk to their parents about.

Something seems to be happening, and easy no-risk access to porn at such a young age can't be a good thing. This is about the sexual health of the species, not about being prudish. I don't know what the solution is, other than just being aware of the negative effects of this over-stimulation & being willing to talk about it with our young boys.

Early onset of E.D. being a major new thing I see mentioned often in r/relationships & r/sex. A lot of young guys have unrealistic expectations of women sexually.

It could also be due to environmental toxins, just look at all the gay frogs and transexuals which happened to cohencide.

What kinda porn y’all watching? None of this sounds like what I watch. Which granted is like maybe 20 minutes a week and fairly specific.

Real people. Sound off so no plot. Prefer mfm.

thank you for your post.

We have a society with a lack of love and a surplus of isolation. Frankly, many children don't get affection/love from their environment/community growing up; sex is often viewed/learned as the only acceptable form of affection. Porn offers many things- a solution in some ways- false intimacy in another. an insincere (and shitty) substitute which requires you to tune out enough to take it in. (Often the performers are pretty tuned out too.)

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porn, including its' ramifications (insincerity, dissociation, isolation, etc.), facilitates/propagates itself through our relationship with it. Of course, I'm speaking a bit dramatically, but somewhere in me i hear the more we go to porn and vitual reality, the further we turn from real human connection (what we're really after).

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A negative energy accompanies porn. I decided to comment because I was thinking about a year or two ago and wanted to reflect on it a little more. You could get very multidisciplinary with this conversation though- it's a big one. The reflections/implications porn and sexuality lay on society go very deep.

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now on with the rest of my night!

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remember, love starts with yourself - feed love, not fear :)

Why would the government want to disintegrate the family unit? They incentivize having children and they certainly don’t make divorce easy.

Some say by destroying the nuclear family, it creates more economic and emotional weakness to exploit.

Yeah I can see that but I’m saying that everything else the gov is doing is attempting to keep the nuclear family together. Tax breaks for children and married couples, laws making divorce more difficult. I don’t get the logic.

Ok cool imma go beat off now.

Pornography is another Jewish trick to turn white men into inebriated weaklings.

Most of the porn stations/channels are owned by Jews.

My point exactly. The Mossad even broadcasted porn on state channels during the Palestine revolts, presumably to weaken Palestinian resistance.

kink.com.

the shit on that website is... fucking DARK. it’s difficult to even get aroused when I watch clips on Pornhub.

I suppose it’s “nice” that that niche is getting recognized, and I know the female actresses are consenting to what happens, but you can’t help but wonder if they actually wanna do it. some of them are straight up crying, specifically in the UpperRoom collection, and I just have to turn it off. I understand that sex parties, or swinger parties, happen, but damn that shit they put those actresses thru can be straight up mean!

(also, side note here, when they tell the woman they aren’t allowed to cum, what does that even mean? how could they possibly hold that in??)

I tend to stay to the more amateurish side of porn, but I have to agree that the main stream porn (bangbros, reality kings, kink, etc) is just pushing the boundaries.

Ted bundy blames his necrophilia rape and murder on porn js

It's a pacification tool. More panem et circenses than weapon imo.

tl;dr: there is nothing new under the sun

Isn't one of the main characteristics of porn being that it "wears out" quickly? One is always having to find new stuff. And that's whether it's printed on magazine pages or propagated online. I recall plenty of incest and gangbang (and lots of other kinky) porn in the pre-internet days, but it tended to be more narrated out in text in pulpy paperbacks. In those days there were rumors of "behind the counter" materials available in the porn shops, but I had no first hand (heh) experience. Anyways, the constant search for novelty among the porn-consuming public will eventually tend to push the envelope towards ever more "forbidden fruit".

I would say that overall, pre-internet porn wasn't as "segmented" as it is now, with all the narrow specialties available today.

Easily accessible? When I worked as a bag boy in a supermarket in the 70's I would take my break at the magazine rack where I could study the latest issue of a magazine/comic book called "Sex to Sexty". It was a thick read, chock full of drawings of all kinds of fetishes and borderline kinky stuff, and plenty of ordinary porn too. There were no efforts to keep "Sex to Sexty" away from kids, it was simply among all the other magazines on the open rack. The backlash began a few years later with Edwin Meese, atty. general under Reagan who began cracking down on certain kinds of borderline porn like bestiality and (as I recall) incest.

Ever hear of Hustler magazine? Which regularly featured a cartoon character named "Chester the Molester"? Who was always inventing new ways to get close to the kiddies?

I find it

It’s a violent pornography. Choking chicks and sodomy.

Hmm... maybe. I've noticed when I stopped watching porn for a long while (months) I got more shit done and really wanted to be around my SO. Obviously it made sex with her much better, but I also just wanted to be around her more; to want see her, hear her, smell her, touch her more often and even just think about her would be common. I'd also study more, read more interesting stuff, etc. Mind you I'd occasionally masturbate too, but without any porn. Maybe there's some truth to this.

deep addiction that requires more drastic expressions of sexual behaviour

To a point.

Anybody else jerk off to this?

constantly

If something is free, you are the product.

If something is free, you are the product.

If something is free, you are the product.

Only the most cliched line in reddit history. You guys are all as dumb as shit.

Im a chick, i like porn. I find it so odd that on the front page of pornhub and redtube its always incestual (step brother fucks sib) type shit. Thats not something i look up. Weirdness.

Only really two types of porn at the moment as it is-

A- The palest whitest girl having sex with the darkest black man

B- having sex with my daughter/sister/brother/mother

You're 100% right about the dangers of porn addiction but "degeneracy" is such a meaningless buzzword at this point.

I'll acknowledge that pornography is a drug that is damaging to a person's life & mind if you acknowledge that sex is drug that is far more dangerous to a person's life & mind.

Bros. It's not just about twisting your mind with porn. Porn absolutely does wrecks your mind, and makes you numb to the smaller pleasures in life, anxious, and depressed. But it is also about getting you to waste your semen, your "vital essence", your "jing". You're literally speeding up the aging process, weakening your immune system, and shortening your lifespan every time you do this.

https://archive.org/details/successmethods00butlrich/page/48

Imo, porn that imprints anything besides vaginal intercourse is a means of population control, and I think most of us understand the limitations of Earth's resources, so maybe it's not such a bad thing after all.

Gonzo porn creates new, twisted pathways in the brain leading away from good old-fashioned sexual desire, and that's the whole point. I think it's fair to say it's bad for the individual person, but good for the Earth in general.

In a perfect world, we'd be able to satisfy the typical male libido without leaving heirs all over the place because our women wouldn't be ovulating constantly, so there would be no need for porn / population control in the first place. Perhaps the typical male libido would be reduced along with the reduction in the presence of female pheromones in the air. This is a scientific issue, not a moral one.

We've been conditioned to take moral responsibility for all our own thoughts and desires, even though we know we can be influenced by forces beyond our control. This world is fucked, and it's not our fault. Not even the worst of us (them) can claim responsibility for creating the human condition. It's fucked because of the moon, which means we could probably fix if we really wanted to.

Thanks for sharing. Woah, very interesting, I didn't knew sexual fantasies could create a vicious cycle like that.

Dude, make sure to check this thread I linked: https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/9nvmi7/how_postmodernism_fucked_over_the_west/

It gives a very good description about the way Post-Modernism completely fucked over the west.

Have you read it yet? what do you think? pretty interesting analysis isn't it?

I think part of the sex talk to teens should be the unreasonable expectations porn sets.

We shouldn’t be ashamed of self gratification, but we shouldn’t have a subculture that objectifies people.

Sasha Grey is overrated.

leave the kids out of this

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what are you even trying to argue lmao the context here is adult porn not cp which is a different animal.

Good thread about mindgeek.

I don't have incest porn views on my Pornhub account, nor cuck porn, yet Pornhub insists on that crap being the first section on their website when I visit. There is a "recommended for you" section which does host the correct videos I enjoy, but I don't watch any of that other crap and it still comes up as the first videos on the website.

Yeah I only get hentai ads

Heh, I kind of messed myself up getting to into some of the Japanese stuff... Variations of bukkake and multiple guys with a girl kind of stuff. and it definitely was effecting my sex life negatively.

Gave it up 6 months ago and have a much easier time enjoying my 'vanilla' sex life!

Plenty of porn websites like PornHub and Men.com have a lot of content locked behind a premium paywall. (You can also buy it by the video but almost nobody does that.)

Who the hell pays for that? No one I know. Other sites re-upload that locked stuff for free.

“Canadian”

It's not free. You pay in bodily resource and finite mental capacity.