Hmm. I got a different one for you. The flu shot. Ask yourself this: will they ever eradicate the flu? So why a vaccine for it? And what's the long game here?

Basically, since they will never eradicate influenza, the long term effect will be a much more virulent and lethal version of the virus. You'll know we are getting close when the flu shot stops being free...

I was under the assumption that vaccinations had nothing to do with regards to how severe you react to in this case the flu if you contract it but in the hopes of increasing immunity to the one of over 120 typically active strains. What strains they decide to immunise for being at best an educated guess.

If the spanish flu or a flu with similar characteristics was to go pandemic you would have to be immunised for it because just having a generic shot wouldn't necessarily work. It may but odds would not be very favorable.

Our bodies do already have a natural defence to most illness but it helps if our bodies are in a healthy state this defence system also works better if it is exposed to a moderate degree of pathogens. A completely sterile environment is not possible and not healthy, however it can be overstressed. so keep clean go outside eat and live healthy and the flu shot should't be necessary.

Well if you feel that way fine get your shot. You will be immunised against pathogens that the non-immunised may carry so why push for all to be immunised. Some see it as a personal choice and regardless of your view it shouldn't be up to someone else what someone should have to have done to their bodies.

Vaccines don't do what they claim to do. Largely, they do the opposite. Most childhood and "vaccine-preventable" illnesses are not life threatening at all. It's the vaccines that are the "dangerous game."

1st paragraph: Yes.

Second paragraph, Yes, and sickening and crippling a population would best be done through the vaccines.

You make an excellent point, but everything I've read/heard around this subject is a bit darker than what you outline. Vaccines have been linked to many long-term conditions, e.g., allergies, other auto-immune disorders, cancer, mental debilitation, epilepsy (and other seizure disorders), sterility, MS/MD, polio, and death. They help to achieve long-term goals of population reduction and weakening – plus in many cases, lifelong addictions to prescriptions offered to counteract the various chronic illnesses, which helps feed the "healthcare" industry.

The attack (especially in the U.S.) is multi-pronged, as you outline – with plastics, aerial spraying, water and food contamination, etc.

TPTB want just enough people on the planet to do their bidding and the rest can be done with the growth of automation and AI.

Your assertion assumes that vaccines work, and there's no evidence that injecting a live or disabled pathogen directly into the bloodstream provides any short- or long-term immunity to that pathogen.

Unfortunately the studies that show links between vaccines and seizures are buried in scientific trade journals; you can still find many re-posted on the net by others, but you won't find those studies in JAMA, for example. We can also find guilt by association, e.g., aluminum and other heavy metals have been linked to seizures and other mental disorders, so there are studies on this in journals that cover metal toxicity – and aluminum is used in vaccines as an "adjuvant."

For most or all "vaccine preventable" diseases, there was a natural herd immunity that developed before the vaccine was introduced, such that the rate of infection was already on the way down or nearly absent. Smallpox disappeared for this reason, quarantine, and cleaning up the environments/water that were allowing it to proliferate. This is good reading:

https://preventdisease.com/news/10/102510_vaccines_did_not_save_us.shtml

First, I'm impressed that you took the time to actually look through that and think about it critically. I suspect that the numbers in Sweden weren't accurately tracked before the vaccine (especially in that time period when data keeping wasn't the same as now) – since that's when the statisticians took a keen interest.

I can't cite a reference currently, but I've heard in lectures that the cases where a "vaccine preventable" disease results in something catastrophic (like death or losing a testicle) that there are always extenuating circumstances resulting from a secondary ailment, birth defect, malnutrition, etc. I say "always" but I'm sure that's not entirely true – but the point being that considering that mumps is relatively rare and 1/4 of 1/2 of the population contracting it could lose a ball, then yeah, take your chances.

Your first point is well-taken; everything is fucking poisoned at this point. You can even get a good dose of Roundup from organic bread because that wheat is grown in the vicinity of conventional wheat – and on and on. I think the best we can do is minimize it, and also realize that ingesting or breathing these metals/toxins gives the body a better chance of elimination than if it's injected directly into the bloodstream and can settle in tissues directly because it bypasses mucous membranes and the digestive system. I'd rather give my kid aluminum on toast than have it in a shot.

I highly recommend this incredibly intelligent medical professional who has devoted her career to this cause:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFQQOv-Oi6U

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAAHAHA. You're extremely wrong. So.... their master plan is to actively attempt to crush any discussion of the health impacts of vaccines... even removing every message board which exists anywhere on the internet... so that... more people won't vaccinate. And they are removing our legal exemptions for the same master plan of... pushing people too far? so that when vaccination rates hit 90% instead of 93%.... chaos insues and they make a power grab?

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So our only hope is blindly submitting to vaccines where they go so far as to SKIP THE TESTING... and after fast-tracking they suppress reports of catastrophic brain damage and severe injury..... THEY ARE BENEVOLENT THOUGH, MERELY TESTING OUR FAITH. surrre.

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There's a reason biological weapons aren't utilized in warfare, friend. They aren't effective. Every virus and disease that exists... how does it play out as it spreads? 98% experience few or no symptoms, 2% experience some horrific event. Polio, smallpox, etc.... VACCINES ARE NO DIFFERENT IN THEIR DANGER. The protection they provide is fictional, whilst the damage is completely real. Ah, but soon enough the reality WILL BE REVEALED. Allowing nameless corporations given the freedom from any accountability the power to inject whatever proteins, metals, and adjuvants they care to into ... the whole of humanity. IF A BIOLOGICAL WEAPON CAPABLE OF MASS DEATH EXISTED IT WOULD BE UTILIZED. However contagions contagiousness is... greatly exagerated. It's destructive capacity... inadequate .. in reality... the need for a balanced population demands a plague, and one has been provided. It IS THE SALVATION OF OUR SPECIES. And that salvation lay in death, infertility, and anesthesia.

look at how many peoplr you know with autism

You do realize its 1 in 59 children are diagnoses wih autism as per stated by the CDC. This number is also increasing, and its not all "big bang math guys" most shools report low functioning as being anywhere from 60% to as high as 85%. We don't have an actual number because its almost like people don't want to know hoe bad it is, but the costs of autism exceed that of diabetes and CANCER. You want a global epidemic? here you go, its already arrived and is still rapidly increasing, but go ahead and say better detection, because you'll soon find it will be 1 in 50, 1 in 30, 1 in 2, when does it become a problem? trillion dollars is the expected costs for autism by around 2025-2030

My behavioral genetics professor from a few years ago actually found some compelling evidence that it could be a combination of plastics, lead, pesticides, etc all contributing an effect towards genetic expression being negatively altered during critical neural development producing autistic symptoms.

Just because other environmental factors also contribute to neurological damage in humans does not exempt vaccine ingredients, which have been found to contain glyphosate. They are synergistic in their contribution to human deterioration of health.

You are willfully misrepresenting the evidence of your claim, or you’re just ignorant of the actual science. I’m gonna guess that you’re just parroting the bullshit spewed by Natural News and other unscientific anti-vaccine groups, who claim vaccines contain a few parts per billion of glyphosate.

Not only do they not support their claim with actual evidence, but the average person is exposed to an exponentially higher amount of glyphosate every second of every day all around them. Furthermore, both the basic biology of how organic life metabolizes glyphosate, and the processes in which vaccines are created make it virtually impossible for any glyphosate to end up in the final product.

Glyphosate may very well have a significant link to the neural development disruption that produces autism, and there is evidence that it may, but claiming that vaccines are the vehicle for the delivery of it is simply idiotic.

Only someone who hasn’t looked at sites like Natural News thinks they do not back up their claims with linked research, you know, actual science. Which is more than you can get from pro vaxxers, who can only repeat the mantra, ‘safe and effective’... like zombies. Oh, and spewing insults. Must think insultology is effective at covering up for complete lies.

Asked to produce the supposed “rigorous science” used to test vaccines and you get zero studies, for example, for the flu vaccine in pregnant women. You get one flawed study to test for aluminum adjuvant. There are also zero studies showing the effect of several vaccines at one time. Zero studies for most of the other ingredients in vaccines, True story.

Glyphosate is in the food chain, so the source is not just from a vaccine. But, it’s effects are synergistic, making other vaccine toxic ingredients much more toxic. More brain damage. More organ damage. More sick kids. Like, mane why 54% kids are sick from a chronic illness today.

You're making the mistake that people only blame vaccines, therr are definitely other issues like pesticides and poisons in our food, water and every day lives. They also say vaccines because they are given at a young age where neurological issues are more likely to occur in this still developing mind. Vaccines are injected directly which many have shown it causes a more severe absorbtion whereas our body properly filters moet other toxic things we eat through our organs.

The rates of autism are definitely going up and have been since he 1970's we know this for a fact especially when you look at costs. This is why many believe vaccines are a major contributer but not the only, because the increase in vaccines runs along the increase in autism, its not proof but its proof of a trend that should be studied.

I only talk about vaccines here because I don't use reddit for anything else, I just come for the vaccine discussions. And you say propoganda machine, meanwhile multiple pro-vax/anti-anti vaxxer posts on the front page of r/all and are allowed to be shoved in your face for advertisement literally everywhere where other drugs are not.

It's a correlation, nothing more as I stated and thus is an area of interest that should be studied. The reason I state it needs to be studied is that it has not been, give me 1 major study beyond thimerosal in the mmr which had a whistle blower bring fourth documents proving they omitted data, so 1 ingredient in 1 vaccine that had a whistle blower against it, what a compelling argument that vaccines and autism are unrelated.

Also areas with less rates of vaccination have lower rates of autism, chronic illness, and cancer. Sweden, Japan, iceland, etc.

Also i don't need a smallpox vaccine, it was eradicated even from areas with low-no vaccine because of economical changes like people stopped drinking poop water, less crowding, sanitizing, life improvement, etc.

Thimerosal is still used in the flu shot and when they took it out of others they just replaced it with aluminum which many have found to be just as bad if not much worse.

http://www.rescuepost.com/files/gr-autism_and_vaccines_world_special_report1.pdf

Not everyone uses the same schedule as the U.S and immunization rates are not the same as amount of vaccines used.

I think you should stop while you're ahead, I simply stated a fact, that other countries have lower vaccine uptake and lower autism rates. I didn't say it was proven that vaccines cause autism, I said there was a trend, a correlation that needs to be looked at and you freaked out.

You make an excellent point, but everything I've read/heard around this subject is a bit darker than what you outline. Vaccines have been linked to many long-term conditions, e.g., allergies, other auto-immune disorders, cancer, mental debilitation, epilepsy (and other seizure disorders), sterility, MS/MD, polio, and death. They help to achieve long-term goals of population reduction and weakening – plus in many cases, lifelong addictions to prescriptions offered to counteract the various chronic illnesses, which helps feed the "healthcare" industry.

The attack (especially in the U.S.) is multi-pronged, as you outline – with plastics, aerial spraying, water and food contamination, etc.

TPTB want just enough people on the planet to do their bidding and the rest can be done with the growth of automation and AI.

Your assertion assumes that vaccines work, and there's no evidence that injecting a live or disabled pathogen directly into the bloodstream provides any short- or long-term immunity to that pathogen.

I only talk about vaccines here because I don't use reddit for anything else, I just come for the vaccine discussions. And you say propoganda machine, meanwhile multiple pro-vax/anti-anti vaxxer posts on the front page of r/all and are allowed to be shoved in your face for advertisement literally everywhere where other drugs are not.

It's a correlation, nothing more as I stated and thus is an area of interest that should be studied. The reason I state it needs to be studied is that it has not been, give me 1 major study beyond thimerosal in the mmr which had a whistle blower bring fourth documents proving they omitted data, so 1 ingredient in 1 vaccine that had a whistle blower against it, what a compelling argument that vaccines and autism are unrelated.

Also areas with less rates of vaccination have lower rates of autism, chronic illness, and cancer. Sweden, Japan, iceland, etc.

Also i don't need a smallpox vaccine, it was eradicated even from areas with low-no vaccine because of economical changes like people stopped drinking poop water, less crowding, sanitizing, life improvement, etc.