In the pilots for 9/11 truth post, they detail how 911Blogger posted Barrie Zwicker's endorsement for CIT's work at the Pentagon for about 30 minutes before taking it down.

Then this: However, just ten days later, 911blogger published a 3100 word article from an anonymous poster, titled “CIT is useless.” The amateurish writing and ad hominem attacks are evident from the very first paragraph: “Some time ago I wrote an article about not wasting time on CIT. Most of their followers are impossible to convince and consequently the endless debates with them are entirely fruitless, resulting in nothing more than distraction.

The moderators for 911blogger have also been found to ban people outright for posting articles related to CIT and doing their very best to censor any information that may be related to it.

I hate this TL;DR crap but...for those who have a short attention span......911Blogger is the embodiment of what Cass Sunstein wrote in his paper calling for Conspiracy Theories to be made ILLEGAL. He also calls for conspiracy groups to be infiltrated and have mis-information and dis-information disseminated through them in order to discredit and disrupt.

Why go to such lengths to muddy the waters and dissuade people from looking into 9/11 Conspiracies if they are all outright false?? If we're all dealing with fiction and bullshit, why would they need to make thinking about Conspiracy theories illegal?

It's a threat to them. It means we have the information to crack this wide open. They need to discredit in order to buy themselves time. They must know it.

My pleasure.

I don't know if its worth getting into that in THIS thread, but maybe post your own and show some of the information you've collected. I myself have a hard time believing in something like that. I'm not at all saying its not possible. I know they're withholding technology that would change the world. I just don't yet know about the mind control/telepathy angle. So feel free and post something and show people.

Sure there were a lot of people who saw the plane. No question. Beyond that, these people were not always in any position to actually see the impact spot.

It is hard to imagine, but if you watch CIT's video and their supporting video, you will get an idea of the topography of the area. It is very misleading, and its not just exact straight lines of view to the side of the Pentagon. A lot of the views are obscured by trees as you come up VA27. Anyone else who was closer to the Pentagon and in a position to see it were like many of the witnesses. They ran scared for their lives in the other direction. Not knowing where the plane was heading or if it would come down on top of them or what.....they just turned the other way and ran.

William Lagasse jumped into his cruiser, Sean Boger who was in the heli-port control tower DUCKED! The others weren't specific about what they did but its clear that they were all fooled into thinking it impacted the building.

Again, it cannot be possible. The north side makes it impossible to hit the light poles and the generator and therefor that angle of the damage path through the building.

Again keep in mind that that they had the FDR for years before producing a "video" showing what the plane did and how it "crashed". They also had all the evidence showing DNA and whatever else to prove their story. The accused (Gov't) had access to all the evidence that supposedly shows it to be innocent. Its' like trying to dig up evidence against the mob and the mob is the only ones with access to the evidence. It just doesn't work.

Also, and besides the testimony of all these people, the fact that they could simply release ALL the videos that surely would show the plane impacting the building are locked up somewhere and will not be released. How much sense does that make? That solid evidence shown 86 times would prove their claim way beyond a reasonable doubt, but yet they hold onto it??

That is beyond ridiculous.

There was and is no real evidence at all for an such missile theory. It was or has just turned out to be more of what they want, Dis-information. Again, they had just finished a renovation of that section of the Pentagon against "bomb blasts". That is the key bit of info showing they could have easily rigged the place to blow. That is the only likely answer. They outright blew the place up and the plane flew through the smoke in order to cover it as it flew away.

People would be fixated on the fire/smoke and the building. Its not like the plane just pulled up and was in the sky. Consider how it would look to people who are in the area, and already know and expect planes to be taking off from Reagan/Washington National Airport, which is right next door to the Pentagon! They have planes taking off and landing every 4-5 minutes all day long. They are so common, people likely just ignore them. So the plane flew off level enough to get out of view before pulling up and going where ever it went.

I am not of the same opinion that all of this simply leads to an "expanding conspiracy". As in, more and more people would have to be in on it in order for this to all happen.

There are levels within the Gov't and especially the military that keep information on that all too well known "need to know" level. How about this short video as a good example of how things can be kept close to small groups of people in order to maintain a flow of BS information to achieve the desired results.

Watch this video regarding Dr. Zelikow and his role with the 9/11 Omission report.

It is not impossible because honestly, we are living it right now. It happened. Just as you say, there is no evidence showing that plane crashed, yet they were able to control the flow of information and push the theory that the plane crashed and all these innocent passengers died etc. etc. but....it just can't be that way.

Yes they were grounded, but that doesn't have to include this plane. Cheney was in control of the PEOC at the time as told by Norman Mineta. I cannot account for everything, I don't have all the answers here. These things are just the accumulation of all the data that fits and is relevant.

The plane that we're talking about wasn't likely the same plane with all the passengers. Hani Hanjour was an incompetent pilot. He could not have pulled this maneuver, nor could he have flown a Cessna. The plane was also described as white, all white by many of the observers of the plane. So, I believe that it was something else, maybe a remote plane. It's a guess, but either way it did a maneuver that few people could do.

I also want to post this pic I found whilst doing my searching. HERE which was posted by someone who MAY have seen the event. I honestly cannot be sure if this is all true or not, but it seems unlikely that it could be made up, especially when it damages the OT. The average person is not going to make this up regarding this event.

Either way, take it for what its worth, with a grain of salt as usual but I think it shows that someone saw what happened.

Also, if you want to absolutely crush the Official Theory, then watch Keith Wheelhouse. The sole person who pushed the story of the "second plane" shadowing the 757 as it flew into the Pentagon. Which is total absolute bullshit.

If you watch the Mineta testimony, you'll see that Cheney ignored the fact that the flyover plane was coming in on radar at 50 miles out all the way into its "destination". If he was in control, and let the plane get that far, what makes you think there would be any problem with letting it fly away after the fact?

As for DNA and the whole bit after the event, who knows how it happened. I don't know how it happened, and I cannot and will not speculate. All I can say is that the evidence points to this whole thing being bullshit. It couldn't have ended with a crash soooo......the DNA and all evidence produced after is suspect as well. However they did it, its all horseshit. However they "got rid" of the passengers, however they got rid of the plane.....you know it had to be the worst case scenario.

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