i just don't understand this buying gold shit. Gold is at record high prices right now. Don't throw your money down the toilet. And I think you're right, unless the nukes start to fly, gold won't do you much good.

My plan is to head for Canada and live in the mountains near Vancouver until the US comes back to it's senses.

As the dollar falls, the value of gold tends to go up. As long as the Fed continues quantitative easing, gold will rise. If you look here gold tends to move in inverse to bear and bull markets. As we hit the bursting of the internet and housing bubbles, the price continued to rise. Like any other market trend, its not perfect, but its movements have been reliable over the years.

BTW, if you haven't seen The Colony on Discovery channel, check it out. Worth it.

buy a 4 wheel drive (you can get a used bronco for like 2k and they all come with 4 wheel drive and plenty of power) outfit the vehicle so that it can be mobile on any surface and survive any environment/civil unrest. keep emergency kits in this vehicle. understand your local environment. know how to obtain water and purify it. know your local plants and which you can eat. dandilions are pretty much everywhere and can make a great salad. keep yourself in good physical shape. always keep rope and a knife. just be creative, fire can be made from so many sources, my favorite is using different types of glass to magnify the suns rays...or having a lighter handy. i have completed a number of survival classes maybe you should sign up for one. i once paddled 60 miles in a kayak in a 4 days, on salt water, with no food, i made my fresh water, and caught my food, it was awesome. i also did one in the woods where i built a shelter and used a snare to catch a bunny for dinner. the one in the woods was very tough because all i was given was what i could carry on me without the use of a back pack. I wouldnt say that i have restored old 4x4s, run everday, practice wilderness survival, etc. to prepare for anything i just found it interesting and made them hobbies of mine.

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nah man, I fuck girls

Nice... good stuff, I like that kayak thing trip, that's right up my alley. So pissed I sold my Dodge Ram Prospector.

In a shtf scenario I don't think the government is going to allow people to drive around the countryside living off the land. I think they will claim you are some kind of security threat / radical, and they will come for you.

I dont think in a shtf scenario I would stay in one place for long, but I would want a vehicle that could carry me to a secure location as effectively as possible. In an shtf scenario I would... whoa whoa wait...nice try secret government agent by the name of starfarts

Western Canadian winters are milder than many US states. I rarely need to shovel my driveway in the winter. Granted it's colder up on the mountains.

yeah, but once you're east of Hope it's effectively the same winter most years, that's a very thin band of warm space on the coast.

Cool, I'm already here so I guess I am covered. Whistler is good, you could do some skiing while waiting for your society to emerge from its dystopian dark age.

The main lineup will be at the border, always difficult to get through customs. Buy some duty free on the way, you can use booze and cigs as currency in Canada (since the US$ will probably not be accepted).

I'm gonna hide in a FEMA camp and form a gang much like Hogan's Heroes.

Nice try, Government.

I have some silver and will buy some more.

I stock enough food to last about a month.

I am looking to buy a diesel car and convert it to burn veggie oil.

I have friends who have bought guns. I dont' have one, but will get one if needed.

I have friends who have a place in the hills. I'm ready to get the heck out of dodge when the bottom falls out.

You will not want to stay in the city if or when this happens. Let's all hope it doesn't.

One month of food is nothing. At minimum you need 6 months. Ideally you need 2-3 years worth.

A more important point is that water is way more important than food. You would need 2 weeks worth bare minimum. Ideally you have 2-3 months worth, but it's hard to store.

I absolutely agree. I will stock water when I need to. I also need a generator and yes maybe a gun if things get bad.

Many people have not done any preparation. You have to start where you are. Start stocking some things and then keep building it up. It's like saving money. Some preparation is better than no preparation and more is better than a little.

I live in a small city. I could stay here for awhile, but if things really break down I'll have to get out of Dodge. I'm not currently in a place in the country that I would plan to hold up in for six months. I do have a place to go up in the hills, with water, food and friends. I may be living in a tent for awhile, but that's fine.

If civilization collapses, silver is worthless. There's no going back to silver and gold until everything stablizes - if ever. It's just not as useful as it once was.

Currency would gasoline. Solar panels. Wind-up radios. Tents. Outdoor winter clothing. But mostly non-perishable food: Canned goods and dry goods.

and bullets. I would much rather have 10 lbs of bullets than 10 lbs of silver or gold. If you have enough bullets you can get all the precious metals you want.

Gold is valued too high to be practical, but silver will be used. All the other things you mentioned will be used as well. Anything truely useful.

I think the collapse will be quick, still it will be somewhat incremental. It will come in waves. I think some people will not be able to adjust, but may of us will be OK.

• Stock pile food, silver and water. Hide some of it in various places around the city or in a rural area.

There is an old book on burying goods but the name escapes me. Make a map if you're not familiar with the area.

• Purchase a firearm and learn to use it.

• Find a place to camp if necessary. Storage unit out in the country? A friends place to stay? A buried or hidden emergency kit? Stockpile food and water in those places.

• Learn to barter and start practicing your negotiating skills today and on a regular basis.

• Learn to hunt, fish, purify water, start a fire, cook with limited resources.

The financial and monetary system will collapse. Martial law will be declared. The world wide economic system will collapse. Debt and paper money will have no meaning. Governments will collapse. Gold and Silver will also be worthless.

Daily existence will be focused on obtaining the basic necessities to maintain life - water, food, shelter, and weapons. Hoarding will be rampant.

Force will rule. Daily encounters with other humans will be confrontational in nature. Only the strongest and most resourceful will survive.

Billions will die.

The Machines will rule.

That is all.

Escape plan? No, when shit hits the fan, I will be coming for those involved. Hopefully others will do the same to scare the shit out of anyone tied into this.

Stay put... I live in a rural area of werstern australia. I live on 23 acres with my own rainwater, veges, cattle, sheep and goats. I have recently brought another property (land only 90 acres) that is 30min drive away that borders national forrest that has abundant wildlife eg rabbits, kangaroos, emu's and pigs(so I could set up camp there if required. I have four firearms (3 rifles one shotgun) I will stay put and defend with my wife and kids. For power check out this And I reload my own rounds have starting butchering my own sheep and goats, cattle I havnt yet and I am going to start stockpile desiel. Oh and I am trying to pay the mortgage as quickly as possible so (hopefully) when the shit hits I do not owe the government a cent.

if you actually believe this is true, what are you doing still living in a major city? You should at least be moving to the outer suburbs or a small town.

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I've only jokingly thought about this in the event of the Zombie Apocalypse, but I do have a plan of sorts, however I'm fleshing this out on the fly.

I was thinking of putting together a go-bag, to contain basic essentials, change of clothes, survival tools, tent, etc.

I'm in the UK so don't have immediate access to weapons. However, my old school has a cadet force and has many semi-automatic SA-80 rifles onsite along with plenty of ammo. Reasonably easy to get to if you have the tools and know exactly where they are, plus the added benefit that I would probably be the first there and not many people know of it.

However, I'm a bit of an airsoft geek and 99% of the British public wouldn't know the difference between an airsoft G36C and the real steel. Especially if I was wearing my navy coveralls, combat boots, and webbing. It'd be enough to get the majority of people out of my way immediately, just by intimidation, enough to at least shock them. However, it wouldn't be long until I got my hands on a real rifle.

I'm fortunate enough to live in Surrey, close enough to London to be in a big town, but only 15 minutes from the country if I'm properly going for it. Being a large town there are a lot of luxury vehicle showrooms, my preference would be a Mercedes G class.

So the plan would be this:

• Shit hits the fan, complete anarchy, people dying in the streets.
• I work from home, so would simply grab my go-bag and get kitted in my mil-sim kit complete with airsoft G36C and Glock side-arm to complete the illusion.
• The wife knows to come straight home. A 15 minute walk, or a 7 minute jog.
• We jump in the car and head for the Mercedes dealership, picking up a G class. Using my airsoft rifle to scare the shit out of anyone who might put up any resistance.
• We drive to Ikea for supplies. Why Ikea? Because they have a food section, tinned, dried, and fresh (albeit Swedish food). Everyone else is going to head to the major supermarkets, Tesco, Sainsbury, who's going to head to a furniture store for food? Only me.
• We then head to the petrol garage to stock up, including filling a few jerry cans for good measure.
• We then head to my old school and acquire rifles and ammo.
• Behind my old school is a massive field, crossing this would cut maybe 15-20 minutes of regular traffic (more time saved if the roads are a nightmare) and leads straight onto the A roads to the motorway. G Class comes in handy.
• Get to the motorway fast, using progressive driving techniques.
• Motorway progress should be good, most people would still be in shock at this time (and wouldn't even have a plan).
• Get to the country, find a nice area of woodland with a stream, and set up camp.
• Turn on the radio and await further updates whilst drinking a cup of tea and cooking up some baked beans.

Total time from putting the plan into action to arriving at camp (fag packet maths) - 105 minutes.

Although this was conceived tongue-in-cheek, I'd appreciate any criticisms or recommendations. A joke (but achievable) plan is better than no plan at all.

What about gridlock.

Wouldn't be a problem in that timeframe, most people wouldn't be reacting as quickly as me.

Plus, it's mostly dual carriageways all the way to the motorway, which wouldn't be too much trouble to navigate at pace even if there was traffic.

The thing with our road networks down here is that, if you know of them, there's always a number of side roads and lanes that you can take that will bring you closer to where you want to be. So even if the main roads were jammed you could find a way through.

Plus, I'd be in a big hefty Merc, I would be able to push stubborn vehicles out the way.