Yes! The parallels to the current Oil situation are obvious, and maybe that's where Herbert started from, but the story of a precious resource, imperialists who show up to mine it, and indigenous people caught in the middle is as old as the first time a caveman stole a cheeseburger from another caveman.
I think about this all the time ever since I read that book for the first time. I was like twelve and I read about what was going on in the middle east and still wondered who is what house. Is America Harkonnen? Or maybe the empire and the Saudi royalty are Harkonnen? Then does that make the spacing guild...Exxon!?!?! And then Mentats are the CIA! :|.
I'm trying to find out what states produce the most soldiers so I can find out if they're shitty enough to merit an American army/ Sadukar correlation.
Australia busts out some kick ass soldiers and our SAS are some of the best in the world. Also were were, in part, a prison colony. So Australia is Salusa Secundus and our soldiers are Sardukar, maybe?
Mu'ad Dib's conquest against the Harkonnen forces is very similar to the Arab Revolt against Turkish forces. Many of the terms are also of Arabic and Hebrew origin.
I don't know if you realize it or not, but a lot of the words in Dune are Arabic and Hebrew. jihad, Alam, El Sayal and even Bene Gesserit (pronounced beh-NEI jahz-eret, same word as Jazeerah). Kwisat Haderech is a fairly common and ancient Hebrew prayer for a traveler.
During the first Gulf war. The emperor was Saddam(Shadam) ruler of Iraq(us) or desert planet(country). At the same time news broke out of the Martian meteorite life forms(microscopic sand worms from Mars,desert planet)
It's really about midgets and their desire for more respect from giants. I wouldn't have figured it out had it not been for the subtle hints throughout the book/movie/tv series.
I did and though I thought the ideas were intriguing I thought the writing was god awfull unlike the syfy ministries which also had kick ass special effects and superb acting.
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12 winzippy 2011-03-06
Spice must flow.
4 Nutricidal 2011-03-06
and in that vein...He Who Can Destroy A Thing Controls A Thing.
3 winzippy 2011-03-06
... and don't forget to milk the cat.
1 weretheman 2011-03-06
Ah yess my sweeeet Thufir You must milk the sweet hairless Sting body....
12 tttt0tttt 2011-03-06
Dune is an allegory on the human condition.
2 maus5000AD 2011-03-06
Yes! The parallels to the current Oil situation are obvious, and maybe that's where Herbert started from, but the story of a precious resource, imperialists who show up to mine it, and indigenous people caught in the middle is as old as the first time a caveman stole a cheeseburger from another caveman.
4 puffthemagicdragon 2011-03-06
Yes.
4 Thunderbear 2011-03-06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEWM7zIIF9c
5 planckstudios 2011-03-06
Frank Herbert from the video: "It's a metaphor for the shortages we are encountering because of overpopulation..."
4 mahalium 2011-03-06
I think about this all the time ever since I read that book for the first time. I was like twelve and I read about what was going on in the middle east and still wondered who is what house. Is America Harkonnen? Or maybe the empire and the Saudi royalty are Harkonnen? Then does that make the spacing guild...Exxon!?!?! And then Mentats are the CIA! :|.
2 darkrum 2011-03-06
I thought mentats gave you +2 Intelligence, +2 Perception and +1 Charisma
1 mahalium 2011-03-06
I'm trying to find out what states produce the most soldiers so I can find out if they're shitty enough to merit an American army/ Sadukar correlation.
1 j_renae 2011-03-06
Australia busts out some kick ass soldiers and our SAS are some of the best in the world. Also were were, in part, a prison colony. So Australia is Salusa Secundus and our soldiers are Sardukar, maybe?
1 mahalium 2011-03-06
I concur.
3 destraht 2011-03-06
In Libya there is a huge interest in keeping the water from flowing. So the NWO wants to keep the oil flowing and suppress the water.
3 Moracy 2011-03-06
The sleeper must awaken.
2 [deleted] 2011-03-06
No, it's an allegory for the opium trade. Oil will run out, eventually, but poppies live forever.
2 prhln 2011-03-06
Wasn't the fact that melange being relatively unsustainable, like oil, a theme in Dune?
2 lusrname 2011-03-06
Mu'ad Dib's conquest against the Harkonnen forces is very similar to the Arab Revolt against Turkish forces. Many of the terms are also of Arabic and Hebrew origin.
2 prhln 2011-03-06
Muammar al-Gaddafi is clearly the product of the Bene Gesserit breeding program.
1 mrdoom 2011-03-06
Protesters must be the Fremen.
1 Shagata_Ganai 2011-03-06
The author wrote that CHOAM was a substitute name for OPEC.
1 ronsturgill 2011-03-06
read about Hydraulic Empires.
1 [deleted] 2011-03-06
I don't think he could have been any more obvious about it. Desert people that speak a language extremely similar to Arabic, living on Arrakis (Iraq).
1 Yserbius 2011-03-06
I don't know if you realize it or not, but a lot of the words in Dune are Arabic and Hebrew. jihad, Alam, El Sayal and even Bene Gesserit (pronounced beh-NEI jahz-eret, same word as Jazeerah). Kwisat Haderech is a fairly common and ancient Hebrew prayer for a traveler.
1 salt44 2011-03-06
...Duh.
0 77_65_65_64 2011-03-06
It'd be a metaphor if it were, technically.
0 smedleybutler 2011-03-06
During the first Gulf war. The emperor was Saddam(Shadam) ruler of Iraq(us) or desert planet(country). At the same time news broke out of the Martian meteorite life forms(microscopic sand worms from Mars,desert planet)
1 maus5000AD 2011-03-06
well, except Dune was written twenty-five years or so before the First Gulf War.
1 smedleybutler 2011-03-06
DUNE WAS PROPHETIC.
-2 Gobbler007 2011-03-06
It's really about midgets and their desire for more respect from giants. I wouldn't have figured it out had it not been for the subtle hints throughout the book/movie/tv series.
1 demote 2011-03-06
Wat.
-2 moistlotion 2011-03-06
The syfy mini series was better than the books.
1 [deleted] 2011-03-06
Did you honestly read the books?
1 moistlotion 2011-03-06
I did and though I thought the ideas were intriguing I thought the writing was god awfull unlike the syfy ministries which also had kick ass special effects and superb acting.