Is Dune an allegory for the middle east? Must the oil flow no matter who is in charge?

48  2011-03-06 by [deleted]

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Spice must flow.

and in that vein...He Who Can Destroy A Thing Controls A Thing.

... and don't forget to milk the cat.

Ah yess my sweeeet Thufir You must milk the sweet hairless Sting body....

Dune is an allegory on the human condition.

Yes! The parallels to the current Oil situation are obvious, and maybe that's where Herbert started from, but the story of a precious resource, imperialists who show up to mine it, and indigenous people caught in the middle is as old as the first time a caveman stole a cheeseburger from another caveman.

Yes.

Frank Herbert from the video: "It's a metaphor for the shortages we are encountering because of overpopulation..."

I think about this all the time ever since I read that book for the first time. I was like twelve and I read about what was going on in the middle east and still wondered who is what house. Is America Harkonnen? Or maybe the empire and the Saudi royalty are Harkonnen? Then does that make the spacing guild...Exxon!?!?! And then Mentats are the CIA! :|.

I thought mentats gave you +2 Intelligence, +2 Perception and +1 Charisma

I'm trying to find out what states produce the most soldiers so I can find out if they're shitty enough to merit an American army/ Sadukar correlation.

Australia busts out some kick ass soldiers and our SAS are some of the best in the world. Also were were, in part, a prison colony. So Australia is Salusa Secundus and our soldiers are Sardukar, maybe?

I concur.

In Libya there is a huge interest in keeping the water from flowing. So the NWO wants to keep the oil flowing and suppress the water.

The sleeper must awaken.

No, it's an allegory for the opium trade. Oil will run out, eventually, but poppies live forever.

Wasn't the fact that melange being relatively unsustainable, like oil, a theme in Dune?

Mu'ad Dib's conquest against the Harkonnen forces is very similar to the Arab Revolt against Turkish forces. Many of the terms are also of Arabic and Hebrew origin.

Muammar al-Gaddafi is clearly the product of the Bene Gesserit breeding program.

Protesters must be the Fremen.

The author wrote that CHOAM was a substitute name for OPEC.

read about Hydraulic Empires.

I don't think he could have been any more obvious about it. Desert people that speak a language extremely similar to Arabic, living on Arrakis (Iraq).

I don't know if you realize it or not, but a lot of the words in Dune are Arabic and Hebrew. jihad, Alam, El Sayal and even Bene Gesserit (pronounced beh-NEI jahz-eret, same word as Jazeerah). Kwisat Haderech is a fairly common and ancient Hebrew prayer for a traveler.

...Duh.

It'd be a metaphor if it were, technically.

During the first Gulf war. The emperor was Saddam(Shadam) ruler of Iraq(us) or desert planet(country). At the same time news broke out of the Martian meteorite life forms(microscopic sand worms from Mars,desert planet)

well, except Dune was written twenty-five years or so before the First Gulf War.

DUNE WAS PROPHETIC.

It's really about midgets and their desire for more respect from giants. I wouldn't have figured it out had it not been for the subtle hints throughout the book/movie/tv series.

Wat.

The syfy mini series was better than the books.

Did you honestly read the books?

I did and though I thought the ideas were intriguing I thought the writing was god awfull unlike the syfy ministries which also had kick ass special effects and superb acting.