Why do jewish organizations support massive immigration and multiculturalism for Western countries but want Israel to be a Jewish only state?

62  2011-08-01 by [deleted]

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Simple enough. They want to protect and strengthen their own group, and they believe that weakening and hurting other more powerful groups in society is a way to do this. Promotion of multiculturalism is a way to weaken the dominant group in Western society -- white Christians of European descent. Jews see Christians as their enemy. They always have, from the very beginning of Christianity, which they did their best to destroy when it was in its infancy. They failed, but they have hated Christianity and Christians ever since, and they have done everything in their power to corrupt and weaken Christian culture. As Jews became more powerful in Western societies, their ability to harm Christian culture increased. The promotion of multiculturalism is their way of destroying Christianity. Of course, they have zero intention of applying the principles of multiculturialism to themselves. To even suggest such a thing is laughable. They want to stay strong. Why would they destroy themselves? No, they want to destroy us.

Kevin MacDonald Discusses Jewish Influence On Western Culture

Someone around these parts turned me on to this a while back. I'd argue though that it is not necessarily about destroying anyone but instead pacifying anyone (turns out to be everyone besides them) who could possible harm them. The Jews are not exactly Skynet from Terminator like you are saying but they do seem to believe that a strong everyone else is a slippery slope towards their demise.

I think that it is obvious that they have pitted themselves against reasonable and moral people but I contest the severity, when you say 'destroy'.

You mean believing you are a "chosen people" makes you assholes? Ya don't say!

This world will never be at peace until all Abrahamic religions are extinct.

Jews see Christians as their enemy.

Jewish christian here. Helloo!

Promotion of multiculturalism is a way to weaken the dominant group in Western society -- white Christians of European descent

they want to destroy us.

So you think Jews use multiculturalism [Muslim immigration] as a mean to destroy your western white christian way of life?

Breivik?

Jews own Hollywood. This is a claim made by a Jewish guy who wrote an article ablout it. It can be backed up fairly well if you look at the history of Hollywood and the major studios.

There's 3 major abrahamic religions. Christians, Muslims, and the Jews.

There's far less Jewish people than there are Christians and when the US was founded, it was done by white anglo saxons.

There was a lot of anti-semitism early on. to combat it, the best way is to get like minded groups to help you fight.

The ADL is an early group that attached anti-semitism to the civil rights movement.

By combining black rights, gay rights, women's rights, rights for handicapped, rights for pets, rights for everyone except white christians, the Jewish groups were able to convert liberal minded people to support them, without even really meaning to.

Take a look at r/politics. You can say anything bad about FOX. Say something bad about Jon Stewart and you get attacked by the hivemind idiots who downvote your comments out of fanboy worship and ingrained social culturing.

Now address the part where multiculturalism (synonym to Muslim immigration) is set to destroy the "white Christians of European descent".

I just find it adorable how white supremacists and Pro-Muslim Anti-Zionists (many of them are Muslims living in America and Europe) are able to bridge to differences between them and join arms to fight a common Jewish enemy that "wants to take over the world".

Most people who oppose the bad behavior of Zionists are neither Muslim nor white supremacist racists. Attempting to hang that label on any one group is pointless because the people opposed to Zionist racism are found all across the planet.

Agreed. Being ant-Zionism isn't a racist thing, it isn't an atheist or white supremacist or Islamic thing either. They are just the ones who are up front about it. But because they are the most prolific groups (intentionally because of media saturation), it is easy to lump anyone who distrusts the government of israel and their heavy connection to US domestic and foreign policy into the same groups. You oppose the gaza offensive? Antisemitist. You oppose the genocide of Palestinians? Antisemitist. You oppose Jewish control of western media? Man you must really hate Jews!

You probably didn't read the OP of this thread:

Promotion of multiculturalism is a way to weaken the dominant group in Western society -- white Christians of European descent

As Jews became more powerful in Western societies, their ability to harm Christian culture increased.

Sounds white supremacist to me. and it gets plenty of upvotes in this here subreddit. don't you agree?

I have different opinions than tttottt. I'm not a white supremist. I value equality between individuals. I don't give a fuck about colour.

I can however point out relative values that are persistent accross different demographics in media.

Yes, I understood the first time you said it - you think Jews control Hollywood. that's quite an eye opener.

I have different opinions than tttottt. I can however point out relative values

I can't find any differences between you two; you are both racists. he hates Jews and Muslims you only hate Jews.

Jews arent a race.

Except when they want to be.

I don't hate Jews and you're making assumptions based on what?

'Oh noes, he talking about the Jews, he's racist'.

Whatever man.

Jewish people aren't my problem. It's the people manipulating the Jews and the Christians that are the problem. According to Joe Biden, you don't have to be a Jew to be a zionist.

Jew, Christian, Muslim. Whatever man, they're all part of the same crappy cult worship nonsense.

But yeah, keep forgetting that Jews are a race and a religion. I have no issues with the race side, it's the religious side I have a problem with cause it's manipulative, exceptionalist, and retarded. Same as the other two.

That wasn't the OP. Just saying.

I think you might get away with such an absurd smear in the Israel subreddit but in this or virtually any other subreddit you'll not be able to and I should not have had to remind you that posting such hateful silliness would only make you look hateful and silly.

LOL

Divide and Conquer

Here's an example of 'multicultralism' in Israel just in case people come here to say it's not true.

All you need to do is ask a Jewish mother if she wants her daughter marrying a Christian or a Muslim. You'll find out damned quick what they think about applying multiculturalism to themselves.

wow. everyone should watch this video. a bunch of jewish racists who want to expel all non-jews from israel. i kept expecting the police to show up and start hosing everyone with tear gas. but that doesn't happen there.

I'm not sure. I do know that most American Jews oppose illegal immigration, and in the Netherlands, a large number of Jews are very much against further immigration to my country. If you are right, I would argue that Jewish organizations apparently don't represent the Jewish people on this issue:

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/10/12/2741253/poll-jewish-support-for-obama-falling

Harris said the most surprising result of the poll is that a majority of Jewish voters back Arizona's new immigration law, which encourages police to check the immigration credentials of persons being questioned on other matters. The law already has sparked an exodus of undocumented workers from the state.

The survey asked its Jewish respondents: “A new law in Arizona gives police the power to ask people they’ve stopped to verify their residency status. Supporters say this will help crack down on illegal immigration. Opponents say it could violate civil rights and lead to racial profiling. On balance, do you support or oppose this law?”

The result was a slim majority in favor of the law: 52 percent to 46 percent.

it seems to me that alot of organizations dont represent most of the people in their demographics...the normal people usually arent loud enough to be heard

I don't know, maybe because not all Jews are the same?

Multiculturalism isn't a 'weakness', there are Jews that are against it, and Jews that are for it, most Jews are for it, and if you look at the numbers, a majority of Jews in Israel and otherwise support it. Just because a vocal group of Jewish people in Israel are against it doesn't mean it isn't there.

Also, many Jews want to feel safe, they feel safe around other Jews because they've faced oppression elsewhere, it has nothing to do with trying to 'weaken' anyone and has a lot more to do with wanting a safe place where they can be Jewish and unafraid.

Christians have dozens of countries, Muslims have dozens of countries, Buddhists have multiple countries, Hindus are almost a billion strong and have their own country, etc.

Jews are a small people and have a small country. I don't really see a plan of "divide and conquer" as being really all that effective.

Also, Multiculturalism doesn't mean omni-culturalism. Accepting and tolerating all cultures is different from wanting to dissolve your own or others cultures and merge them.

Multiculturalism means integration. When have Jews ever integrated with anybody? They live in Western societies, but they are never integrated with those societies. They have always remained aloof and apart. That is how they have survived. Multiculturalism would have destroyed Jews in a few generations. It was only by avoiding it like the plague that they still exist. Yet they want to impose it on us. They don't want it for themselves, but they want to impose it on us. Think about that. What is their reason? Well, obviously they think it will be good for them to impose multiculturalism on us. That does not mean in any way that it will be good for us to have it imposed on us. Just the opposite is true. They see our weakness as their strength. But why should we rejoice and assist in our own destruction? That is insanity. Yet we are being brainwashed by the Zionist-controlled media that we must embrace this suicidal insanity.

I don't think any Jews want to "impose" multi-culturalism on anyway. I think Jews have integrated pretty well, I know tons of Jews that don't even bring up their Jewishness, they have married non-Jewish people and live just like "normal" people (because news flash, THEY ARE.)

How is multi-culturalism hurting anyone? My family is multi-cultural, I have a mixed heritage, and I am a proud and happy American. How has that made me 'weaker'? I tolerate others and am happy with my life. Accepting other cultures has if anything made me a happier and more knowledgeable person.

Also, Multi-culturalism for me is simply about accepting and tolerant, it has nothing to do with integration or assimilation. Multi-culturalism suggests an innate duality, OMNI-cultralism is the idea that we should all merge, assimilate, and integrate.

I think Jews like that idea, because a culture that accepts and is tolerant of multiple cultures would most likely not try to accuse them of not being patriotic or try to destroy them.

ADL of B'nai Brith was the major force behind rewriting America's immigration laws in 1965 to change the mix of immigration from 90% European to 90% non-European. B'nai Brith international was also the major force behind a similar rewriting of Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada's immigration laws at the same time. After these laws were changed, B'nai Brith was also active in upping the limits on the number of new immigrants that could be legally admitted to the USA.

That's probably because Jews at the time were pissed off that so many of their brothers, sisters and cousins were refused entry and sent back to Europe where they were slaughtered by the Nazis. They repaired the immigration system to prevent this from happening again to other ethnicities.

Funny. they don't have the same immigration policy in Israel. Many Arab families still hold the keys and title to homes that are illegally occupied by Israeli Jews. these Arabs are denied their right to return to properties and lands which belonged to their families for hundreds of years.

You're evading my point by changing the subject.

They did nothing to prevent this from happening to other ethnicities. They merely changed the demographic mix of legally accepted new immigrants to one that is overwhelmingly non-white.

Sorry, I forgot that the entirety of a person's merit was determined by the colour of their skin. If you think that brown people are undesirable, you've lost the battle. Might as well commit suicide, which is something you should consider. Last of the whites.

Talk about evading the point!

We put our culture in trunks up in our attics a long time ago. Back then, it was all about strutting around sticking sharp things into people who looked, talked or thought different. Maybe sometimes people who got in the way just for practice. But it was ok though, because it made us feel safer.

At some point, it was informally decided that we could afford nicer things if we didn't incinerate any significant portion of our customers. So we adopted open societies, liberal democracy and constitutions. It's still an experiment in progress I guess, and one that appears to still be very unpopular in many parts of the world. It certainly gets more than its fair share of negative press.

And it's been an amazingly successful one, that's produced more technology and art and freedom than any other system yet.

I think co-operation and tolerance and acceptance are the way to go.

What Jews have faced oppression elsewhere?

Locally, we have a signifigant Jewish community who are all very well respected.

Personally, I think that's kind of a silly argument.

What 'christian' countries are there? Sure, there's countries where muslims are the dominating religion, but just because they have that doesn't mean others need that. No one is forcing Jewish people to not be Jewish. Even Iran has a Jewish community who gets along great with other Iranians.

This seems like a small penis issue. 'We need a big red car cause others have one'.

How can Jews be oppressed when they are better off than any other group in society? Seriously, if only we were all so oppressed, we'd be laughing.

I don't know... a few thousand years of expulsions and genocides for starters? The Holocaust? Pogroms? Forced Relocation Programs?

Jews have been oppressed and treated as 2nd class citizens in most places they have called home for most of their existence (along with any "outsider" group really, Jews aren't special in this case, but their history is tied to it.)

You can't remove people from their historical context, just like you can't remove hundreds of years of slavery and oppression from blacks in America and the West. Just because we have a black President, and a lot of successful black CEO's and media figures, doesn't remove the long history of oppression or erase all the times they been expelled or treated like 2nd class citizens.

Just because you as a majority doesn't understand it and think they are being insecure, doesn't make it true. Let your people get treated like trash and lets see them not want to try to make a home somewhere else where they can be themselves.

Also, contemporary treatment of Jews in the Western world is kind of completely removed from historical treatment of Jews. Just 60 years about half the Jews on the planet were murdered, a person that was born when it happened hasn't even hit retirement yet in most places! You can't just pretend that doesn't have an effect or it doesn't matter anymore.

And yea, "gets along great", Iran is hardly a place to hold up as a great example of religious tolerance and human rights, you can be punished for trying to convert people from Islam, much less for opposing the government.

It's hardly a "small penis issue", if you're oppressed and pushed around for a thousand years, and you decide to go home, it's barely a "Well everyone ELSE has a country we should too!". You'd think they wouldn't have given back so much land if they'd had a complex.

I'm Canadian. Aside from the natives, we're all immigrants. What in the world makes Jews any different than Italians or Irish or any other group?

A few thousand years. That's an argument based solely on religious attitudes, and really, a bunch of Europeans who share a religious background is hardly a realistic argument to anyone who doesn't share their attitudes.

I am not the majority. If it was up to me, i'd take all religious influence such as the 700 club off mainstream tv and force schools to adhere to a public system that doesn't have one favourite over the other.

Thousands of years. That's fucking retarded. I could go start up the cult of the super sumerian and claim Israel's actually my land cause my religion was founded earlier.

The US voted for Barrack Obama purely because Bush was so bad, that of course the democrats were going to win. They picked a chick or a black guy because the US is so culturally battered into political correctness, and so fucking delusional about race issues and thinking that voting for a black guy actually made a step of progress towards eliminating the ignorance of the Bush era.

A monkey could have picked that Obama was going to win, solely based on the social attitudes democrats present.

Voting for Obama did nothing though since he's still at the will of the Jewish lobby groups who have an amazing amount of influence.

Again, I still fail to see how the Jews have been oppressed since the holocaust, and why the actions someone else in the past did, should have an affect on my life. I didn't cause slavery, I never forced anyone to do anything they've never wanted to. Why should I have to cater to a religious demographic that somehow deems it's own self worth more important than anyone else?

Well a lot makes the Jews different, I mean that's why they are Jews rather than Nigerians or Inuits. Everyone is different because everyone has different cultures and histories.

Saying someone is different is a lot different than saying someone is better. Jews are NO BETTER than any other people on the planet, but EVERYBODY is different. A Jewish-Canadian deserves no more rights or protections than an Irish-Canadian, and someone who hates Irish people and throws a brick through the Irish-Canadians window should be punished just as harshly as someone who hates Jews and throws a brick through the other fellows window.

Jews have a unique history and culture, just like every other group, and you can't just remove a people from their identity and expect everyone to act and think identically.

Regardless, you seem to think wanting to value their culture and identity somehow treads on other people? Once again multi-culturalism does NOT equate to forced merging of cultures. Multi-culturalism is simply tolerance and respect of all of the different groups in an area and country. I don't see how that is a bad thing.

A lot of Jews supporting Multi-culturalism doesn't mean that all Jews do, and you can't really claim there is some kind of organized Jewish idea to push the world towards multi-culturalism while keeping themselves "pure".

A far simpler explanation is that some Jews support multi-culturalism, some Jews don't. Some Jews think they are better than people who aren't Jewish, most don't.

Jews valuing their identity and culture does not mean by default that they think they are BETTER than other people. Just because I want to preserve my families traditions and live with my family in my safe home, does that mean that I think my families traditions are "better"? No, I just think it's worth valuing and it works for me, that doesn't mean that I am better or more deserving than anyone else. Obviously, there is a big leap between preferring something, and thinking that your choices are the ONLY choices available.

A lot of Jews wanting to protect their culture and history in no way is any scarier than you as a Canadian wanting to protect your culture and history. You're the same in that regard.

If you're allowed to love your country and value what it means to be a Canadian without being a Canadian Supremacist, then a Jew can do the same without being a Jew Supremacist.

Also, Jews have faced continued hate crimes. Over the 20th century Jews have stayed near the top (even in the tolerant Western nations) of groups who have had their places of worship vandalized or faced hate crimes and discrimination because of who they are. They have faced several invasions of their single country, and been under constant attacks by outside forces, many of which who are open about wanting to kill all Jews everywhere.

Regardless, even if you remove all of that, and pretend that the last 65 years has been honky-dory, you still have families shattered by genocide and war, families that have been held back or destroyed, families and people who don't exist anymore because someone thought they were unworthy of life.

There are still people alive today who remember the pain and are still feeling the effects, you can pretend like that doesn't have an effect on people.

http://youtu.be/4gTYC-lJZvY

This is a comedy bit (the relevant bit is 3:30 onward), but where he mentions you can't remove people from their historical context is important. Did you own slaves? No of course not.

But the thing is literally just a few generations ago you COULD. And you can't throw people off the plantations and be like "Wow, it's been 150 years since you were kicked off of plantations without anything!? You still don't have your shit together!?"

You can't just kill off half of the Jews on the planet, and then say, "OMG WHY DO YOU WANT YOUR OWN COUNTRY!? NOTHING IS HAPPENING TO YOU NOW!"

Also, most of the West has Christian majorities, America is the most powerful country in the world and is a Christian Majority nation. It's not an official "Christian" nation, but you can hardly remove that from it's national identity.

America doesn't limit immigration to Christians only. It also doesn't grant immediate citizenship to every Christian on earth.

Please stop with the false analogies.

Except it totally isn't.

Look, countries are sovereign, they have a right to limit or open up immigration as much or as little as they want. If they want to have a Jewish majority nation, that is their right. If they change that and decide they want to focus on more Finns that's also their right.

The difference is that Israel is a nation of a people who were practically sliced in half just a few decades ago. Their continued existence was threatened, they were in a very hostile place.

Christians don't have to worry about their survival, there are over a billion of them, and they are the majority in major countries from Africa to Europe to the Americas.

But I can promise you if Christian demographics WERE threatened, I mean actually threatened, like there were only a couple of million Christians left, and a few hundred thousand non-Christians could totally upset that demographic balance, they would probably be limiting immigration to non-Christians.

In fact, Christians are the majority in America and there are some radical Christian groups that already argue we shouldn't accept any non-Christian immigrants.

Like hell it isn't. There is such a thing as the Nakba. "Israel" didn't just spontaneously emerge as a Jewish majority state. It forced out 700,000 Arabs to create a Jewish majority state. And as if that weren't enough it continues to engage in acts of ethnic cleansing by moving its Jewish population into the West Bank and East Jerusalem in its quest for a "Greater Israel" and segregating the Palestinians there into bantustan communities.

Stop playing the role of the doe-eyed innocent here. What Israel has done over the last 65 years is deplorable and bigoted. For crying out loud look at how it treats its Arab citizens in Israel proper itself. (And please don't for one minute pretend it doesn't have classes of citizenship).

I've been there. My mother was born and raised there. She is neither a Jew nor an Arab nor a Muslim. She has no dog in this fight. She had watched things transpire there since the mandate all the way to 1970. My grandfather had seen Palestine since before the days of the British mandate while under Ottoman rule. Dozens of my family members--all Christians, all non-Arabs, will unanimously give you a far different narrative than the one you are providing.

By all means please fee free to lay this bullshit down in r/Israel if you want a sympathetic ear and invite the Zio-bots to upvote you here or in the other subreddits if you wish. But for many like me who have seen this and lived this, interviewed people who have seen it and lived it, and who have studied this through scholarly literature as opposed to Zionist rags-- I don't buy into your narrative, nor have a scintilla of sympathy for your crocodile tears and your false victimization whimpering.

So thousands of years of oppression and being the ones that were cut in half over the last century, and being the smallest group in all of this. None of that shows evidence of victimization?

In the year 2011? No, it sure as hell doesn't. Nor does it give you the right to operate an apartheid state and ethnically cleanse Palestinians for 65 years.

You want revenge? Create a time machine that goes back 3000 years and have your damn revenge. In 2011 you don't get to have it on a group of people that never did anything to you other than inconveniently live on some land you claim some Biblical right to because the book about your god which you wrote says so.

You want revenge? Create a time machine that goes back 3000 years and have your damn revenge. In 2011 you don't get to have it on a group of people that never did anything to you

Love it. I had to quote this to save it for later reference. It's not that the argument is original. It's the vividness with which it is presented.

The desire for taking "revenge" on innocents is also widespread among the Chinese. It's sickening. Here's just a sample.

First, apartheid was totally different.

Second, if Israel is trying to ethnically cleanse Palestinians, they are doing a really shitty job of it, you know since they have doubled in population over the last century, and since the majority of Israelis support the Palestinians getting a state.

I don't think anyone wants "revenge", there is a difference between Jews trying to not die out, and Jews trying to get "revenge".

These are the same tired retorts all you Zio-bots make. Yes the Palestinian population has grown (as most indigent populations do), but as I said they were segregated into bantustans and camps to isolate them from the rest of the world.

And yes Israel IS an apartheid state. It resembles apartheid South Africa to the tee nearly. In fact a former US President (Carter) made that claim as well, which was then met with a lawsuit by Israeli Americans.

Yes, and they have failed to ethnically cleanse themselves of anything. If they have been attempting a program of ethnic cleansing then it's failed.

It's been a long conflict, but obviously all of the things you've claimed Israel is doing is not working to achieve the goals, so obviously they are going to have to come to terms with Palestinians on their own terms eventually. Hope it happens sooner rather than later.

Regardless, I am merely trying to answer the question posed by the thread. He wants to know about the disparity, I explained the disparity. Jews support multi-cultural societies, and even have on in Israel, but they also want to protect their own culture.

No need to accuse Israelis of genocide, or to bring up a Jewish conspiracy required, since it has a simple explanation.

What the fuck are you talking about? Every day more Arab families are forcibly removed from East Jerusalem. Every day Jewish settlements expand in the West Bank. Every day Arab homes are destroyed in the West Bank. Arabs are being gathered into ghettos in increasing frequency every day.

THAT is the definition of ethnic cleansing. It's what the Nazis did to the Jews in Warsaw before exterminating them. You of all people should be able to recognize this.

It is alarming the lengths you people go to deny your own brutality while it's transpiring before our very eyes to see. It's shocking. SHOCKING.

Look if you want to cuss and scream, fine. Nothing you said is substantiated. You accuse me of repeating stuff from "zionist rags" and call me names, but you don't offer any proof.

You don't care about my position, you don't care about the Jews almost being wiped out, you don't care that Israel is under constant attack, you don't want to understand their psychology and mentality and try to understand the "why", you just want to criticize and try to demean the Jews by comparing them to their oppressors.

That's not going to accomplish anything but make them feel like they are under greater attack and continue perpetuating the Israeli siege mentality.

Ah yes, the final Zio-ploy... insist on citations to prove the sky is blue, invoke the Holocaust, and play the victim card behind an arsenal of white phosphorus bombs, nuclear war heads, and F-16's

Like I have some kind of strategy. I'm just a guy talking.

If you can't offer citations then get out. If that's your reality, someone else has a just as convincing reality, and I can run off and claim I don't need citations for my version of reality too.

You can try to pretend that the Holocaust doesn't matter, but it's integral to understanding the Israeli siege mentality and modern Jewish culture. It's not about "playing" anything, and simply a matter of bringing up that it's a major event that still has a heavy effect on the Israeli way of thinking.

Let me get this straight, you want me to give you a citation that says Israel doesn't have a right to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians and that they routinely exploit the Holocaust to get away with literal murder?

How about "The Holocaust Industry" by Prof. Norman Finkelstein? How about "This Time We Went to Far" also by Prof. Finkelstein. Hell, I can give you a citation to dozens of scholarly works authored by prominent Jewish academics that advance this claim.

Does that work for you? Or do you want me to jump through some more preposterous hoops?

The United States is, and always has been, a Christian nation. To say otherwise is to play with semantics. However, Zionists are in the forefront of those who would like to change this.

Why are Christians allowed to have their own country and Jews are not then?

Why are Jews trying to destroy the white European Christian culture of the United States?

Why are white European Christians trying to destroy the culture of Israel?

Israel is not a Jewish state, it is the Rothchild's state. Judaism and Zionism are fundamentally opposed.

go on...

I love you for knowing that.

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"Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies [sic] that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.”

This is incorrect. Europe would do just fine without the help of Jewish organizers and activists moving it down the road of multiculturalism. In fact, Europe has had about as much of this "leading role" of Jews as it can stand.

This is a huuuuuuge generalization. Not all Jewish organizations want a jewish only state. I don't think its fair at all to claim that.

Edit: haha no replys, just downvotes. Blatant arrogance or constructive criticism? Or internet. Probably internet.

Jew > Everyone else

Easy. Monsters sometimes wear a mask.

Moreover: there are as many Jains in the world (a religion that hardly anyone in the west has heard of) than Jews yet the Jewish faith (2% of the worlds population each) has tremendous political power in the US including two of the most powerful political lobbies.

Why do they have a more significant influence than say, the automotive industry which employs 1/7 of the people in this country directly or indirectly?

Why is it anti-semetic if you bring up the fact that the Jewish political organizations have disproportinate representation in our country?

Why is it anti-semetic to call circumcision "male genital mutilation"?

Why is it legal for Jewish families to perform male genital mutilation on a child and indoctrinate them into a faith without letting them join of their own free will?

Same reason it's legal for any family to teach their child their culture and religion. If it should be illegal for Jews it shouldn't be legal for anyone.

Because they're the biggest racist, duplicitous bags of douche on the planet.

Said the kettle to the pot.

Antisemite! Six million died. SIX MILLION! And you dare to question God's chosen people? Never again. NEVER! You have been reported.

I know you're attempting sarcasm but, frankly, I think that poorly thought out sarcasm isn't worth the effort it takes to type and save it.

I can't believe you cared enough to type that out to him..

Holy shit. I almost forgot. Anti-Israel == Antisemitism.

Thank for reminding me.

I know you're attempting sarcasm but, frankly, I think that poorly thought out sarcasm isn't worth the effort it takes to type and save it.

Holy shit. I almost forgot. Anti-Israel == Antisemitism.

Thank for reminding me.

Well a lot makes the Jews different, I mean that's why they are Jews rather than Nigerians or Inuits. Everyone is different because everyone has different cultures and histories.

Saying someone is different is a lot different than saying someone is better. Jews are NO BETTER than any other people on the planet, but EVERYBODY is different. A Jewish-Canadian deserves no more rights or protections than an Irish-Canadian, and someone who hates Irish people and throws a brick through the Irish-Canadians window should be punished just as harshly as someone who hates Jews and throws a brick through the other fellows window.

Jews have a unique history and culture, just like every other group, and you can't just remove a people from their identity and expect everyone to act and think identically.

Regardless, you seem to think wanting to value their culture and identity somehow treads on other people? Once again multi-culturalism does NOT equate to forced merging of cultures. Multi-culturalism is simply tolerance and respect of all of the different groups in an area and country. I don't see how that is a bad thing.

A lot of Jews supporting Multi-culturalism doesn't mean that all Jews do, and you can't really claim there is some kind of organized Jewish idea to push the world towards multi-culturalism while keeping themselves "pure".

A far simpler explanation is that some Jews support multi-culturalism, some Jews don't. Some Jews think they are better than people who aren't Jewish, most don't.

Jews valuing their identity and culture does not mean by default that they think they are BETTER than other people. Just because I want to preserve my families traditions and live with my family in my safe home, does that mean that I think my families traditions are "better"? No, I just think it's worth valuing and it works for me, that doesn't mean that I am better or more deserving than anyone else. Obviously, there is a big leap between preferring something, and thinking that your choices are the ONLY choices available.

A lot of Jews wanting to protect their culture and history in no way is any scarier than you as a Canadian wanting to protect your culture and history. You're the same in that regard.

If you're allowed to love your country and value what it means to be a Canadian without being a Canadian Supremacist, then a Jew can do the same without being a Jew Supremacist.

Also, Jews have faced continued hate crimes. Over the 20th century Jews have stayed near the top (even in the tolerant Western nations) of groups who have had their places of worship vandalized or faced hate crimes and discrimination because of who they are. They have faced several invasions of their single country, and been under constant attacks by outside forces, many of which who are open about wanting to kill all Jews everywhere.

Regardless, even if you remove all of that, and pretend that the last 65 years has been honky-dory, you still have families shattered by genocide and war, families that have been held back or destroyed, families and people who don't exist anymore because someone thought they were unworthy of life.

There are still people alive today who remember the pain and are still feeling the effects, you can pretend like that doesn't have an effect on people.

http://youtu.be/4gTYC-lJZvY

This is a comedy bit (the relevant bit is 3:30 onward), but where he mentions you can't remove people from their historical context is important. Did you own slaves? No of course not.

But the thing is literally just a few generations ago you COULD. And you can't throw people off the plantations and be like "Wow, it's been 150 years since you were kicked off of plantations without anything!? You still don't have your shit together!?"

You can't just kill off half of the Jews on the planet, and then say, "OMG WHY DO YOU WANT YOUR OWN COUNTRY!? NOTHING IS HAPPENING TO YOU NOW!"

All you need to do is ask a Jewish mother if she wants her daughter marrying a Christian or a Muslim. You'll find out damned quick what they think about applying multiculturalism to themselves.

wow. everyone should watch this video. a bunch of jewish racists who want to expel all non-jews from israel. i kept expecting the police to show up and start hosing everyone with tear gas. but that doesn't happen there.

You're evading my point by changing the subject.