Mayan Elders to do a ceremony that was last performed 26,000 years ago

51  2011-10-20 by [deleted]

First off I find this interesting because I believe Mayans sit on vast knowledge, so why are they doing this - publicly? On 11/11/11 and some more events after that.

Source: http://www.spiritofmaat.com/oct11/crystal_skull_pilgrimage.html

On 11:11:11, another group of thirteen Elders will arrive in LA from the Mayaland to come together in a Gateway Event that will be highlighted by the performance of the Mayan Crystal Skull Ceremony. The Elders, whose traditions have always been kept within their inner circle, have been instructed to perform all of their ceremonies in public from this point on; for this reason, the Ceremony of the Thirteen Crystal Skulls, a ceremony that was last performed 26,000 years ago, will be open to the general public.

If you read it through, there are some other interesting things as well.

Tamuanchán (the original Mayan name for the USA) will be once again the sacred site that must enlighten the whole of mankind in this world.

Also, for 2012:

At 11:11 PM, on the night of the 2012 Winter Solstice spectacular, at the exact moment when our Sun and the Earth go into alignment with the center of the galaxy, the Elders, and the Cirque de Soleil performers will present a guided meditation that will unite over two-billion viewers in their hearts and open the space for all of humanity to embrace the unconditionally-loving light of the Divine Feminine. The time has come; the 'Quarantine' is about to be lifted. This event, and all of the ceremonies and performances leading up to it, are the manifestation of a dream, and of a rise in consciousness that will help us to remember who we really are and guide us out of the darkness into the Light.

2 billion viewers? In which way?

And, this:

In collaboration with Cirque de Soleil, 'Google', NBC, Santana, Elevate Films, and others, all of the above have come together to sponsor a series of spectacular performances that will carry the seeds that are sown in the soon to be actualized Crystal Skull Ceremonies to hearts and minds all over the planet.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out and what is going to happen.

48 comments

24  KevZero 2011-10-20

So, the Mayan Elders are in collaboration with "Cirque de Soleil, 'Google', NBC, Santana, Elevate Films, and others"? What a lineup! I'm psyched!

14  dr00min 2011-10-20

I looked into this a while ago and yes it is profound.

One question, why r/conspiracy?

15  [deleted] 2011-10-20

Because this is the only place where people are open minded and stuff like this does not get downvoted as much. An article involving even a notice to "Crystal Skulls" and whatnot would be an insta-downvote everywhere else.

9  dr00min 2011-10-20

So true my friend.

6  RogerStrong 2011-10-20

That's be because being fictional, it doesn't belong in /history or /religion.

Even the crystal skulls themselves are a European invention. They're known to have been manufactured in the mid-19th century or later in Europe, and do not figure in genuine Mesoamerican or other Native American mythologies and spiritual accounts.

Crystal skulls are to pre-Columbian Mesoamerican culture what Frosted Lucky Charms (TM) are to pre-Christian Irish culture.

1  [deleted] 2011-10-20

Well, yea I don't know what to think of them. However, I would not use wikipedia to find some absolute truths. There is one side saying that certain skulls are very old, that they store a lot of ancient knowledge and are impossible to make as perfect even with todays tools, while the other side say that all of them are pretty much fake made-up toys.

What I do know though is that:

  • The Mayan Elders obviously see them as important, and Native Americans use quartz crystals a lot in their ceremonies.

  • Around all ancient things there are truths mixed with a lot of lies, making it hard to see what is true. What I would think is that quartz crystals can indeed store a lot of information, but that there are a lot of fake skulls. As for the ancient ones - who knows? I just keep my mind open about it, and leave it at that.

In the end I don't really care about what the crystals are or what they do - I just hope for these events will lead to this "rise in consciousness", creating a better future for the planet and humanity.

5  RogerStrong 2011-10-20

There is one side saying that the crystals are very old, that they store a lot of ancient knowledge and are impossible to make as perfect even with todays tools, while the other side say that they are pretty much fake made-up toys.

Read the link I provided. Different research teams were able to show how and when skulls were created. The "impossible to make today" claims are pure hokum, and demonstrably wrong. No-one has ever provided any evidence "that they store a lot of ancient knowledge."

The Mayan Elders obviously see them as important, and Native Americans use quartz crystals a lot in their ceremonies.

That's may be true of quartz crystals, but not crystal skulls.

In the end I don't really care about what the crystals are or what they do - I just hope for these events will lead to this "rise in consciousness", creating a better future for the planet and humanity.

Well sure. But continueing my comparison above one can say the same thing, with the same credibility, about Frosted Lucky Charms.

4  [deleted] 2011-10-20

Research carried out on several crystal skulls at the British Museum in 1967, 1996 and again in 2004 has shown that the indented lines marking the teeth (for these skulls had no separate jawbone, unlike the Mitchell-Hedges skull) were carved using jeweler's equipment (rotary tools) developed in the 19th century, making a supposed pre-Columbian origin problematic.[8] The type of crystal was determined by examination of chlorite inclusions, and is only to be found in Madagascar and Brazil, and thus unobtainable or unknown within pre-Columbian Mesoamerica. The study concluded that the skulls were crafted in the 19th century in Germany, quite likely at workshops in the town of Idar-Oberstein renowned for crafting objects made from imported Brazilian quartz at this period in the late 19th century.[9]

4  Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2011-10-20

"The Mayan Elders" sounds so much more legitimate than "some old guys who claim to be descended from an extinct ethnic group."

2  [deleted] 2011-10-20

lol the Mayan aren't an extinct group. There really are Maya, with their own language and everything today.

1  Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2011-10-20

Sure, and people today are "Mayan" in the same way that Italians are "Roman."

2  VMChiwas 2011-10-20

Wrong analogy, mayas preserve their culture, language, the same way Cherokee, Apaches do.

2  Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2011-10-20

Yep, as long as they're sponsored by NBC.

1  dr00min 2011-10-20

We'll see.

1  RogerStrong 2011-10-20

We already do. This isn't idle speculation; the Crystal skulls are shown to have been made in Europe. They do not figure in genuine Mesoamerican or other Native American mythologies and spiritual accounts.

2  dr00min 2011-10-20

Then this should be easy for you.

7  eggrole 2011-10-20

The Chichen Itza Pyramid will be transformed into a stage, upon which the artists and performers of the Cirque de Soleil will work their incredible magic.

This wreaks of capitalism to me. :(

8  sunshine-x 2011-10-20

SPONSORED BY COCA COLA AND BIG OIL!

just wait..

3  s70n3834r 2011-10-20

Mix them together, and what do you get? Brawndo.

6  tttt0tttt 2011-10-20

Nobody knows what rituals were performed 26,000 years ago. No written records 26,000 years ago.

1  [deleted] 2011-10-20

That's not necessarily true. Look at the Rg Veda - passed down for a very long time, word for word, before writing.

Mnemonic technology was at a very high level of development back then, and for some it still is.

2  tttt0tttt 2011-10-20

Sorry, I don't believe that. Messages get distorted when passed from mouth to ear. I would be willing to grant that a ritual technique might survive in a culture without written records for a few centuries, but 26,000 years? I don't buy it. It's too long a period.

4  esthers 2011-10-20

Brought to you by Google, NBC, Cirque de Soleil, and Santana!!! Get your tickets right heeeerrrreeeee!!!

Sounds like a good way to make cash off of the new age 2012 nuts. Some people are so gullible.

3  dr00min 2011-10-20

I believe the 2 billion are the approximate amount of us that will feel something when this happens.

7  [deleted] 2011-10-20

That's how I interpreted it as well.

5  SemiSeriousSam 2011-10-20

Am i crazy for thinking that my generation (mid 20s to early 30s) are the ones that came down from the 11th or 12th density to help out? Too many questions XD

4  Cservantes 2011-10-20

WTF is the 11th or 12th density???

2  SemiSeriousSam 2011-10-20

It's an odd theory LINK that i find rather intriguing.

1  esthers 2011-10-20

Bullshit.

2  [deleted] 2011-10-20

Yes. That might make you slightly schizophrenic.

1  VerbalJungleGym 2011-10-20

Ever read Babylon Babies by Maurice Dantec?

Many relevant connections in that book, but it posited the idea that the schizophrenic mind holds far deeper secrets than the malady we see on the face of it. Anyone in /conspiracy, would probably dig the book.

1  [deleted] 2011-10-20

I was certainly not using schizophrenia as some sort of insult. That would be insanely rude (pun intended).

I'll check it out though.. I don't think I'll have time to read it but I will definitely check it out

2  [deleted] 2011-10-20

You might find this interview with Alex Collier from 1994 interesting. He is talking about the 12 densities/dimensions and that there were some ancient beings coming down from 11th to create 3rd.

1  SemiSeriousSam 2011-10-20

Yea, that's where i originally came across it. Normally i don't believe things based on hear-say, but 99% of what he says, and how he says it, kinda speaks directly to me.

2  entropy_police 2011-10-20

Have you read E.T. 101 The Cosmic Instruction Manual? It is a fun one.

http://www.mediafire.com/?02rxo7x0vs57hvv

3  [deleted] 2011-10-20

I trust Bill Cooper, Serge Monast and Rik Clay in that a hoax celestial event or alien invasion is in the agenda. Project Blue Beam. So this sounds highly suspicious. Also: What do the masons, skull & bones and the Mayan calendar have in common?

5  [deleted] 2011-10-20

I'm sure the first "alien invasion" or public visit will be either faked or done by malevolent forces. Never buy into anything directly.

2  vemrion 2011-10-20

I doubt it; people have known about Proj. Bluebeam for years and won't buy it.

1  ganon2234 2011-10-20

less people know about that than 9/11 truth, and just look at how thats working.

3  melomaverick 2011-10-20

That last video you linked to is quite dumb. Sure the skull and bones pic recreates the mason emblem and that is very interesting....but i dont see any real connection to the mayan calendar, none the less 2012.

-1  [deleted] 2011-10-20

Look at the video again. In the mayan calendar, you have the same two triangles. One pointing upwards, the other downwards, interlocked just like in the mason emblem, and skull & bones. In the middle of the mayan calendar you have a skull. Remember what the clock symbolized in the skull & bones picture? The time is short. I think 'the time is short' means the las secret society needed before the creation of the NWO.

My interpretation: The mayan calendar is a fake. They created it in the image of their own symbol, "hidden in plain sight" as they do most of the time. Previous to watching this video you saw the picture of the skull & bones secret society and you didn't realize the masonic emblem was "hidden in plain sight" The purpose? to introduce the idea to the masses that a significant event is going to happen in 2012. It was supposedly found under a cathedral and so on... Of course not everyone gets interested in a discovery like the mayan calendar and the multiple discovery/nat-geo/history-channel documentaries that come out of such a discovery. So they also make movies related to the topic (2012) and bombard the so called 'news' with people talking about the possibilities of such events, they sponsor books... etc. etc. They reach all crowds. I highly doubt many people in the developed world have not yet heard of something related of 2012. I think this is conditioning of the masses for a hoax celestial event or alien invasion. I'm pretty sure there's a lot classified technology that will allow to fake it. Even publicly tested technology is very impressive.

1  melomaverick 2011-10-20

Every skull and bones pic has the clock in it. It must have some significance.

2  [deleted] 2011-10-20

Godspeed Hunbatz!

Incredible undertaking. I'm a bit weirded out by Santana and the rest of that stuff going on as a "show". The work the elders are undertaking is a bit more "sacred" than the rest of the events.

1  s70n3834r 2011-10-20

Perhaps a festival accompanied the former ceremonies as well.

2  [deleted] 2011-10-20

Oh yeah, a festival is alright. I just feel like having google and NBC there isn't really in tune with it. Thats just on a personal level though, I just don't think they "fit".

1  SemiSeriousSam 2011-10-20

I can't wait. Fascinating stuff.

1  delusr 2011-10-20

Last performed 26000 years ago and people get the steps wrong to moves that were brought about yesterday.

Were the moves painted on a wall?

1  tttt0tttt 2011-10-20

Arthur Murray. Just put your feet in the little black footprints.

5  RogerStrong 2011-10-20

There is one side saying that the crystals are very old, that they store a lot of ancient knowledge and are impossible to make as perfect even with todays tools, while the other side say that they are pretty much fake made-up toys.

Read the link I provided. Different research teams were able to show how and when skulls were created. The "impossible to make today" claims are pure hokum, and demonstrably wrong. No-one has ever provided any evidence "that they store a lot of ancient knowledge."

The Mayan Elders obviously see them as important, and Native Americans use quartz crystals a lot in their ceremonies.

That's may be true of quartz crystals, but not crystal skulls.

In the end I don't really care about what the crystals are or what they do - I just hope for these events will lead to this "rise in consciousness", creating a better future for the planet and humanity.

Well sure. But continueing my comparison above one can say the same thing, with the same credibility, about Frosted Lucky Charms.

4  [deleted] 2011-10-20

Research carried out on several crystal skulls at the British Museum in 1967, 1996 and again in 2004 has shown that the indented lines marking the teeth (for these skulls had no separate jawbone, unlike the Mitchell-Hedges skull) were carved using jeweler's equipment (rotary tools) developed in the 19th century, making a supposed pre-Columbian origin problematic.[8] The type of crystal was determined by examination of chlorite inclusions, and is only to be found in Madagascar and Brazil, and thus unobtainable or unknown within pre-Columbian Mesoamerica. The study concluded that the skulls were crafted in the 19th century in Germany, quite likely at workshops in the town of Idar-Oberstein renowned for crafting objects made from imported Brazilian quartz at this period in the late 19th century.[9]

4  Sir_Edmund_Bumblebee 2011-10-20

"The Mayan Elders" sounds so much more legitimate than "some old guys who claim to be descended from an extinct ethnic group."

-1  [deleted] 2011-10-20

Look at the video again. In the mayan calendar, you have the same two triangles. One pointing upwards, the other downwards, interlocked just like in the mason emblem, and skull & bones. In the middle of the mayan calendar you have a skull. Remember what the clock symbolized in the skull & bones picture? The time is short. I think 'the time is short' means the las secret society needed before the creation of the NWO.

My interpretation: The mayan calendar is a fake. They created it in the image of their own symbol, "hidden in plain sight" as they do most of the time. Previous to watching this video you saw the picture of the skull & bones secret society and you didn't realize the masonic emblem was "hidden in plain sight" The purpose? to introduce the idea to the masses that a significant event is going to happen in 2012. It was supposedly found under a cathedral and so on... Of course not everyone gets interested in a discovery like the mayan calendar and the multiple discovery/nat-geo/history-channel documentaries that come out of such a discovery. So they also make movies related to the topic (2012) and bombard the so called 'news' with people talking about the possibilities of such events, they sponsor books... etc. etc. They reach all crowds. I highly doubt many people in the developed world have not yet heard of something related of 2012. I think this is conditioning of the masses for a hoax celestial event or alien invasion. I'm pretty sure there's a lot classified technology that will allow to fake it. Even publicly tested technology is very impressive.