When I first learned about the conspiracy, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya were all on the list. The axis of evil is actually anyone without a Rothschild-controlled centralized bank...

What abour China, Russia, Venezula and so on?

China yes. I think China is the only country who did not take (or refused to take) IMF loan.

And that's why they are on top economically. Ya ok a lot of people are poor over there but China is opening more and more to private companies to come to China. No way the world will ever declare war to the Chinese. They would win with ninjas if they mass invaded the US. It's 3 Chinese to 1 American.

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Anybody in the world can put a shinobi shozoku with a mask and say they are a ninja :)

They wont have to invade US. lots of there already there.

OK OK... troll i know.

Question has been answered:

Ctrl + F, search for: 1949

Actually it hasn't, lol the link just claimed that the rothschilds created communism, and then claimed that a bunch of people who aren't Rothschilds somehow are. There are also no citations anywhere in the article, there's a bibligiography to a bunch of pseudo history books, but not actual facts.

I would love to see the peer-reviewed and researched papers you love some much to prove all the dates, names and events in this post wrong. Please point us to them.

So what you're saying is, you're going to throw out a bunch of unsupported bullshit, and then ask other people to spend all their time pointing out how it's bullshit? Why couldn't the guy who made the site actually provide citations?

Reddit is a big site. You can spend your time doing that or arguing with the people at /r/conspiracy or spend your time in sub-reddits you enjoy. If you are going to come here however and do what you're doing then, yes I expect you to refute with your own sources saying the contrary.

Sure

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2000PNAS...97.6769H

The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora.

[3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20560205

The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry.

[4] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1274378/

The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East

Thus, the common genetic Middle Eastern background predates the ethnogenesis in the region. The study demonstrates that the Y chromosome pool of Jews is an integral part of the genetic landscape of the region and, in particular, that Jews exhibit a high degree of genetic affinity to populations living in the north of the Fertile Crescent."

Really? Because Ashkenazi Jews look SO MUCH like the rest of the Middle Eastern people. I can hardly tell the difference between them. With their white skin and physical traits. I have as much trouble distinguishing them from other semites as I have distiguishing shiites and sunnis. FOR REAL.

The Middle East is a big place, the "middle eastern people" don't have a "look". I think you're confusing "Middle Eastern" with "Arab" Saudi Arabians spread throughout the middle east under Muhummad. Israel is near Lebanon, Turkey etc. Of course there's been genetic influx as well, hence the reason Jews from different regions look different.

Some more studies btw

"neither the NRY haplogroup composition of the majority of Ashkenazi Jews nor the microsatellite haplotype composition of the R1a1 haplogroup within Ashkenazi Levites is consistent with a major Khazar or other European origin" - http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/400971.pdf

"if the R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazi Jews do indeed represent the vestiges of the mysterious Khazars then, according to our data, this contribution was limited to either a single founder or a few closely related men, and does not exceed ~ 12% of the present-day Ashkenazim." http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1274378

Yeah, I also have a hard time buying that claim. How a people can be physically indistinguishable from the general European populace and simultaneously genetically identical to North Africans is difficult to swallow. But we've been told to swallow, my friend, so we must obey.

Chinese here, are you saying Mao got Rothschild support?

Yes, I'm saying that. I gave you a year, I explained how, I gave you names. Use that information, look into it yourself.

What about China and Russia? The Rothschilds have heavy currency influence there. Venezuela keeps going back and forth between accepting them and not accepting them.

You're in the wrong subreddit. You are thinking.

Now what about you? Are you thinking? Are you taking the time to follow your doubt up with hard research, or are you the lazy one who would rather just casually ignore something because it's too unfathomable. Since we are in r/conspiracy this is HOME of the skeptics, perhaps some believe in any fringe idea simply because it is the fringe. However there are people who are rigorous in the methods.

Taken from a comment by the OP from further down.

China: The People's Bank of China (Sounds pretty official doesn't it?)
1949: On October 1, Mao Tse Tsung declares the founding of the People's Republic Of China in Tiananmen Square, Beijing. He is funded by Rothschild created Communism in Russia and also the following Rothschild agents: Solomon Adler, a former United States Treasury official who was a Soviet Spy; Israel Epstein, the son of a Jewish Bolshevik imprisoned by the Tsar in Russia for trying to forment a revolution there; and Frank Coe, a leading official of the Rothschild owned IMF.

Russia: Central Bank of Russia
1917: The Rothschilds order the execution by the Bolsheviks they control, of Tsar Nicholas II and his entire family in Russia, even though the Tsar had already abdicated on March 2. This is both to get control of the country and an act of revenge for Tsar Alexander I blocking their world government plan in 1815 at the Congress Of Vienna, and Tsar Alexander II siding with President Abraham Lincoln in 1864.

Now if you want to question the accuracy of these events and do more than just doubt but back those doubts of historical evidence, then have it. A lot of information on the Rothschilds is publicly available information in business libraries.

Don't worry - I'm open-minded enough or I wouldn't be here. I think the title of this thread is a wee bit exaggerated though.

BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST COMMENT I WILL WRITE THIS AS A REPLY HERE:

If you want to know exactly how is it that your local central bank is controlled, hit Ctrl + F and in the search field type: Other important information

Bottom line, any country with a BIS affiliated central bank can be deflated through it.

As of, today, It is my understanding that, Brazil does not own anything to IMF anymore and actually has investments on it, also stand its grounds saying that won't push measures that were pushed to us in the past to countries that take loans.

What about Canada? You know, since the Bank of Canada isn't owned by a private citizen.

Let us talk more about the bank of Canada. Who does own it?

How much do you know about the history of the Bank of England? How much do you know about the BoE's role in the American revolution, centered around colonial scrip? Furthermore, how much do you know about the Rothschild's involvement with the government of England?

To me, I see the Bank of Canada as a foregone conclusion, but I have a lot of information available. It would help if I knew where to start, I don't want to tell you things you already know or disorient you by starting from a point that does not resonate with you.

From wikipedia:

The Bank of Canada (French: Banque du Canada) is Canada's central bank and "lender of last resort".[1] The Bank was created by an Act of Parliament (the Bank of Canada Act)[2] on July 3, 1934 as a privately owned corporation. In 1938, the Bank became a Crown corporation belonging to the Government of Canada.[3] The Minister of Finance (on behalf of Her Majesty in right of Canada) holds the entire share capital issued by the Bank.

According to that, the bank is currently owned by The Crown, a private corporation. I have a feeling you don't know just how involved the Rothschilds are with the Crown, otherwise you would have phrased your question a bit differently. The Crown is one of the most powerful entities on the planet. When I say "The Crown" I mean the entity known as the Crown, not the royal monarch per se.

Thoughts? Questions, concerns, comments?

Crown corporation belonging to the Government of Canada

ehh ill bite

the corporation belongs to the govt of Canada therefore its privately owned by the govt of canada. In paper it may belong to the crown, but The Canadian parliament has de facto control.

And you missed the next part of your wiki quote

"Ultimately, the Bank is owned by the people of Canada."

Thanks for responding, insaneHoshi. The bank of Canada being owned by the people of Canada is someone's opinion. The bank being owned by the crown is a legal fact. They were using wishy washy emotional language to make people feel as though people owned the government and therefore the bank, but in practice, this simply isn't the way things work.

And you already admitted that on paper it belongs to the crown. So what you mean to say is that they have contractual ownership of that bank. I don't care who runs day to day operations, the crown owns it. I don't really see what's hard about this?

I lost a lot of the fire I had 11 days ago when discussing this, but seriously...The Crown owns the bank, end of story.

Its the same way that the crown owns canada, everything that we pass must be ratifies by the queen. But she cant really say no.

Powers of Queen Elizibeth II

1) The power to choose the Prime Minister

2) The power to dismiss ministers and the government

3) The power to dissolve parliament and call new elections

4) The power to refuse legislation passed by the parliament

5) The power to issue proclamations with the consent of the parliament

6) The power to command the armed forces and raise a personal militia

7) The right to read confidential government documents and intelligence reports

8 ) The power to declare a state of emergency

9) The power to dismiss a prime minister

10) The power to advise and warn

11) The power to call elections and enact laws in her majesty's name

12) The power to pardon convicted criminals

13) The power to exercise "Crown Prerogative" - [which means the Queen can declare war through her prime minister without even the agreement of Parliament]

14) The power to grant and bestow titles

Why has the queen been allowed to retain these powers - for the sake of tradition?

What exactly is the meaning of the term 'The Crown' ? The Crown is defined as executive powers exercised in the name of the Monarch. The actual crown itself is a symbol of Executive Powers.

The parliamentary oaths act of 1866 requires all leaders of 54 commonwealth nations to swear an oath of loyalty to the Queen, not to the people who elected them. "I swear by almighty God that I will be faithful, and bear true Allegiance to her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors according to law, so help me God." Those who do not swear allegiance to the Queen are deemed unfit for office, including the prime minister, police, military, judges, legislators, lawyers, and public servants. New citizens to the Queen's common wealth nations must swear allegiance to the Queen. Public land in the Queen's colonies, like Canada, is called "Crown Land". Government corporations are called "Crown Corporations" The Central bank of Canada and the Canadian Mint are Crown Corporations, independent of most government control.

Yes for the sake of tradition and that nothing needs to be changed. She may have the power to do these things, but in general these only happen at the request of the person who has the support of the house of commons.

Back in the day (1800's iirc), the crowns representative, the Governor general would do these things, Then we had a couple of rebellions which caused Responsible government to come in to effect. This meant that the Governor general can not do anything (those 14 points) without the house of commons approval.

There has been like two cases out of a 160 year history where The GG broke responsible government first being the King Bing Affair and Canada's automatic declaration of WW1. But at that time Canada was still quasi independent, which changed in 31 which resulted in Canada's not automatic declaration of war during WW2.

And your oath act was probably superseded by Statute of Westminster. And on that note, that Oaths are largely symbolic. And on that note you dont even have to do it in Canada anymore, as some separatists refused http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_%28Canada%29#Opposition_and_augmentation

Thoughts? You are a paranoid nutbar.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but you're wrong and I'm right. I have facts and you have an opinion, which is misguided and not based in historical study.

Why did you bring up the bank of Canada if you didn't want to talk about it? Are you mad that I proved the Bank of Canada is privately owned? I say good day to you sir.

Are you mad that I proved the Bank of Canada is privately owned?

You proved no such thing actually. You just showed absolute ignorance as to how the government in Canada works.

Sounds like we found someone who knows nothing about Crown Corporations. I believe I said good day, sir.

Yeah, that someone is you. The guy who seems to think the Rothschilds control the Canadian crown. You're a joke.

Rothschilds own property on three sides of Buckingham palace, look it up. There is no such thing as the "Canadian Crown", the entity known as "The Crown" is an entity which resides within the City of London.

I wanted to have a nice civil discussion about this, of which you are incapable. For a Canadian, you're pretty fucking rude, seeing as how your very second response was an insult to me, an entirely unprovoked insult, as I was being rather kind.

Furthermore, you've provided zero content, zero cites, zero sources. All you post is your opinion, which is sheep-like at best. You have not done any higher learning on the subject. I'm done attempting to share information with you, because it is time wasted.

For an idiot you're sure pathetic.

You don't use logic or reason to form the basis of your arguments, you use paranoia, inference, coincidence, confirmation bias and faulty reasoning.

Hint: You are a paranoid moron in you believe in a secret worldwide conspiracy anything.

You obviously know nothing about Canada and the Crown-in-Right of Canada so stop commenting about it. You shouldn't talk about stuff you are completely ignorant about.

You are an ignorant slackwit who learns just enough to form paranoid conspiracies in your mind but not enough to know the real truth about anything.

Just hurling insults is not a coherent argument. You need to actually offer facts and counterpoints. The vitriol coming from you as someone challenges your beliefs is nothing short of amazing.

I agree. Ad homimem attacks, name calling, etc does not prove anything in the most logical sense.

Youre_So_Pathetic has not engaged in any debate what-so-ever. No counter-argument, not even a counter-statement other than "you're wrong", no direct refutation and only anger.

I suggest you pause, take a deep breath, and think "what personal goals would this Redditor have to use paranoia, inference, coincident, and confirmation bias to come up with a conspiracy 'theory'"? The reality is many people are starting with ZERO ASSUMPTIONS, look at data without bias as to the outcome, and draw conclusions from there.

Well said.

I agree with you, keep up the good fight

Many months before NATO was able to chase Ghadaffi out of town and kill him, the so-called 'Rebels' set up the new National Bank of Libya.

Yeah, and the "rebels" who set up that bank were exposed as having ties to the CIA. It's all about banking and the control of money.

COME ON BRO DON'T GIVE IN! KEEP BASHING THE "THEORYISTS" BRO THEY ARE ALL LOONS BRO FOR SERIOUS.

I'd love to reply to this comment, but it unfortunately does not make sense.

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There's nothing looney about noticing that everytime a country tries to take their own currency back, they are suddenly invaded. For example, did you know that to be a member of OPEC, you are required to sell your oil in US dollars, effectively making the dollar a petrol-backed currency?

Did you know that in Nov. 2000, Saddam moved his oil bourse from the dollar to the euro? In less than a year, we had Americans calling for an invasion of Iraq.

Money, and control of its creation, is the real reason for so much of what we see today. I'm sorry you cannot make that connection.

Yes. Most of the stock of the FED belongs to them too.

Income taxes approximately represent the same amount that the government spends on interest on Treasury Bonds. Treasury Bonds are exchanged by the Federal Reserve for Federal Reserve Notes. If we didn't have to pay interest on our own money supply, we wouldn't need income taxes.

Now consider the implication that 33% of your income goes to interest on T-Bills a large chunk of which goes to the Fed, which you have just said is largely owned by the Rothschilds. They receive these interest payments for lending pieces of printed cloth (money's not really paper anyway people) that cost them pennies regardless of bill size. Coins are the costliest part of currency. Dollars are a couple cents to print, whether $1 or $100. And we rent it, and pay interest on it with 33% of our income.

And it's the only thing we're allowed to use.

pieces of printed cloth (money's not really paper anyway people)

"Man of the cloth" - has a ring to it, doesn't it?

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Well, that's one silly way to completely misunderstand the issue.

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Do you truly think that the entire income of the United States Federal Government is from income taxes?

And what I said is equivalent to saying, if you reduce your unnecessary expenditures, you can reduce your income while maintaining your standard of living. That is, stop wasting your money on booze and whores and you won't be in debt.

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Are you able to count?

http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/revenue_history

What I am saying is how would we replace the lost revenue

We wouldn't need it, you asshat, because we'd be eliminating 33% of our liability at the same time we eliminate 33% of our income!

For fuck's sake man.

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Are you too stupid to see the part where I said

If we didn't have to pay interest on our own money supply, we wouldn't need income taxes.

Or are you just ignoring that?

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So you're only interested in talking to yourself about nothing?

Why do we pay interest for our own money supply? Why doesn't the government issue debt free money? Those are two questions that when answered will answer your question

Edit: This was the list of Rothschild controlled central banks. An easier to read version was provided by goldegl.

Easier to read version

Albania: Bank of Albania

Algeria: Bank of Algeria

Argentina: Central Bank of Argentina

Armenia: Central Bank of Armenia

Aruba: Central Bank of Aruba

Australia: Reserve Bank of Australia

Austria: Austrian National Bank

Azerbaijan: National Bank of Azerbaijan

Bahamas: Central Bank of The Bahamas

Bahrain: Bahrain Monetary Agency

Bangladesh: Bangladesh Bank

Barbados: Central Bank of Barbados

Belarus: National Bank of the Republic of Belarus

Belgium: National Bank of Belgium

Belize: Central Bank of Belize

Bermuda: Bermuda Monetary Authority

Bhutan: Royal Monetary Authority of Bhutan

Benin: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)

Bolivia: Central Bank of Bolivia

Bosnia: Central Bank of Bosnia and Herzegovina

Botswana: Bank of Botswana

Brazil: Central Bank of Brazil

Bulgaria: Bulgarian National Bank

Burkina Faso: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)

Cameroon: Bank of Central African States

Canada: Bank of Canada - Banque du Canada

Cayman Islands: Cayman Islands Monetary Authority

Central African Republic: Bank of Central African States

Chad: Bank of Central African States

Chile: Central Bank of Chile

China: The People's Bank of China

Colombia: Bank of the Republic

Congo: Bank of Central African States

Costa Rica: Central Bank of Costa Rica

C?te d'Ivoire: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)

Croatia: Croatian National Bank

Cuba: Central Bank of Cuba

Cyprus: Central Bank of Cyprus

Czech Republic: Czech National Bank

Denmark: National Bank of Denmark

Dominican Republic: Central Bank of the Dominican Republic

East Caribbean area: Eastern Caribbean Central Bank

Ecuador: Central Bank of Ecuador

Egypt: Central Bank of Egypt

El Salvador: Central Reserve Bank of El Salvador

Equatorial Guinea: Bank of Central African States

Estonia: Bank of Estonia

Ethiopia: National Bank of Ethiopia

European Union: European Central Bank

Fiji: Reserve Bank of Fiji

Finland: Bank of Finland

France: Bank of France

Gabon: Bank of Central African States

The Gambia: Central Bank of The Gambia

Georgia: National Bank of Georgia

Germany: Deutsche Bundesbank

Ghana: Bank of Ghana

Greece: Bank of Greece

Guatemala: Bank of Guatemala

Guinea Bissau: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)

Guyana: Bank of Guyana

Haiti: Central Bank of Haiti

Honduras: Central Bank of Honduras

Hong Kong: Hong Kong Monetary Authority

Hungary: Magyar Nemzeti Bank

Iceland: Central Bank of Iceland

India: Reserve Bank of India

Indonesia: Bank Indonesia

Iran: The Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran

Iraq: Central Bank of Iraq

Ireland: Central Bank and Financial Services Authority of Ireland

Israel: Bank of Israel

Italy: Bank of Italy

Jamaica: Bank of Jamaica

Japan: Bank of Japan

Jordan: Central Bank of Jordan

Kazakhstan: National Bank of Kazakhstan

Kenya: Central Bank of Kenya

Korea: Bank of Korea

Kuwait: Central Bank of Kuwait

Kyrgyzstan: National Bank of the Kyrgyz Republic

Latvia: Bank of Latvia

Lebanon: Central Bank of Lebanon

Lesotho: Central Bank of Lesotho

Libya: Central Bank of Libya

Lithuania: Bank of Lithuania

Luxembourg: Central Bank of Luxembourg

Macao: Monetary Authority of Macao

Macedonia: National Bank of the Republic of Macedonia

Madagascar: Central Bank of Madagascar

Malaysia: Central Bank of Malaysia

Malawi: Reserve Bank of Malawi

Mali: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)

Malta: Central Bank of Malta

Mauritius: Bank of Mauritius

Mexico: Bank of Mexico

Moldova: National Bank of Moldova

Mongolia: Bank of Mongolia

Morocco: Bank of Morocco

Mozambique: Bank of Mozambique

Namibia: Bank of Namibia

Nepal: Central Bank of Nepal

Netherlands: Netherlands Bank

Netherlands Antilles: Bank of the Netherlands Antilles

New Zealand: Reserve Bank of New Zealand

Nicaragua: Central Bank of Nicaragua

Niger: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)

Nigeria: Central Bank of Nigeria

Norway: Central Bank of Norway

Oman: Central Bank of Oman

Pakistan: State Bank of Pakistan

Papua New Guinea: Bank of Papua New Guinea

Paraguay: Central Bank of Paraguay

Peru: Central Reserve Bank of Peru

Philippines: Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas

Poland: National Bank of Poland

Portugal: Bank of Portugal

Qatar: Qatar Central Bank

Romania: National Bank of Romania

Russia: Central Bank of Russia

Rwanda: National Bank of Rwanda

San Marino: Central Bank of the Republic of San Marino

Samoa: Central Bank of Samoa

Saudi Arabia: Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency

Senegal: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)

Serbia: National Bank of Serbia

Seychelles: Central Bank of Seychelles

Sierra Leone: Bank of Sierra Leone

Singapore: Monetary Authority of Singapore

Slovakia: National Bank of Slovakia

Slovenia: Bank of Slovenia

Solomon Islands: Central Bank of Solomon Islands

South Africa: South African Reserve Bank

Spain: Bank of Spain

Sri Lanka: Central Bank of Sri Lanka

Sudan: Bank of Sudan

Surinam: Central Bank of Suriname

Swaziland: The Central Bank of Swaziland

Sweden: Sveriges Riksbank

Switzerland: Swiss National Bank

Tajikistan: National Bank of the Republic of Tajikistan

Tanzania: Bank of Tanzania

Thailand: Bank of Thailand

Togo: Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO)

Tonga: National Reserve Bank of Tonga

Trinidad and Tobago: Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago

Tunisia: Central Bank of Tunisia

Turkey: Central Bank of the Republic of Turkey

Uganda: Bank of Uganda

Ukraine: National Bank of Ukraine

United Arab Emirates: Central Bank of United Arab Emirates

United Kingdom: Bank of England

United States: Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Washington)

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Uruguay: Central Bank of Uruguay

Vanuatu: Reserve Bank of Vanuatu

Venezuela: Central Bank of Venezuela

Yemen: Central Bank of Yemen

Zambia: Bank of Zambia

Zimbabwe: Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe

That's not any easier to read. That's just more depressing because it's longer.

Iran is on the list? Huh?

Yes. Thanks for noticing it should not be. Also Venezuela prepaid its debt to the WB in 2007 so you can eliminate those two. Although a 'revolution' can happen anytime over there. "Like the 1973 coup in Chile (September 11th, 1973), started by the US and which lead to the deaths of 11,000 civilians." Also s70n3834r said the following which puts China and Russia in doubt with the following comment:

"They have central banks, of course; but they are not private at this time. That's not to say NWO has not tried, of course; their efforts have indeed been vigorous all through the 20th century and into this one, as you say; but they were ultimately not successful in getting control of those countries' money (such rotten luck with strongmen), that's why NWO is ramping up WWIII; Russia could not be intimidated into it by the cold war and subsequent depression, and the ring of missiles thing is not catching on very well; China double-crossed them by taking the American manufacturing base and not the PCB, and it isn't clear at all that getting control of all the oil and other minerals in the rest of the world will make them. Putin keeps a Rothschild oligarch in prison as a warning to the others, and Hu keeps telling the Chinese Rothschild agents to be patient, someday they'll take it when the time is right; it can take China a long time to get around to things though, LOL. Meanwhile, both the US and NATO are beginning to falter before even getting to Syria, and NWO has certain astrological deadlines to meet; so yeah, shit's about to get real. They always do this."

and NWO has certain astrological deadlines to meet

I wonder what he meant by that.

Some crazy wormhole shit, because greed and psychosis aren't enough to turn men evil.

I believe he means the Rothschilds and other families who control different aspects of the economic and political infraestructure of the world (Astor; Bundy; Collins; duPont; Freeman; Kennedy; Morgan; Oppenheimer; Rockefeller; Sassoon; Schiff; Taft; Van Duyn.) have pagan beliefs. Numerology, Astrology and many other related things. Hence they belong (and the people they control) to various masonic lodges and other secret societies. For instance a 1st degree mason would think his lodge's activities relate only to welfare and community development and higher degree masons would know this is not the case. Everything works in a need to know basis , the higher you climb the more you know. Rik Clay covers dates and numbers in relation to this topic.

Bare with me. My connection won't let me load any youtube video at the moment, it's pretty fucking slow.

What kind of pagan beliefs are we talking about? And if the most powerful people on the planet believe in nonsense, wouldn't it hold some truth in it after all?

Here is where we truly engage in speculation. However, if they control education and want you to believe it is nonsense, perhaps it isn't. But this is not the type of astrology you read about in the newspapers. It's very complex. That's why they refer to these subjects as 'occult' knowlege. Perhaps it is nonsense what they believe, perhaps it isn't, we really have no way of knowing. Except based on the knowledge we already posses, we qualify it as nonsense. Perhaps you should research 'occultism' on your own and judge for yourself.

Hint: A way of knowing: read facts that are peer reviewed and researched, not unnsourced bs from a hate site.

"Here is an exhaustive list proving, once and for all, that the radical homosexual movement in the United States is a jewish movement. jews created it and run it from top to bottom. They are pushing the perversion and degeneracy that is spreading disease, sin and sickness through America like a wildfire." - This is the guy you get your news from? Fred Phelps?

Also where did you get that anti-semitic quote from? We are talking about Ashkenazi Jews who are zionists extremists who support the apartheid in Palestine, private central banking and invasive foreign and internal policies. Not about all Jews.

From the front page of the site you linked to.

Ok. I can point to the same information that I'm defending here but from other sources. If content that I didn't link to in the first place from the site offends you.

The whole subject I brought up is another one. With dates, names, locations and events included. If you want to refute them, go ahead.

So you asked me a question, I answered it, and then you completely changed the subject. Nice.

There's plenty that you did link to that is extremely offensive as well. Y'know like the claim in your link that 90% of Jews are liars. This flies in the face of all genetic evidence as well.

90% of the Jews of today do not come from the land of Judah but from Khazaria and are not semitic in nature but white European.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

If the whole population of China converted this second to Islam and declared themselves the muslims then will they be semitic too? Should they claim Meccah for themselves or engage in extremist wars?

Have you gotten your peer-reviewed and researched mercury shots yet? They're good for you.

i realize that this post is a few days old now, but since the paganism thing came up after all (I was assuming it wouldn't and wasn't going to mention it myself) I present you this odd taste in jewelry.

http://imgur.com/yaYtY

Who is Putin keeping in prison?

PM s70n3834r he provided that information.

Thank you

Why do you say the Reserve Bank of Australia is controlled by the Rothschilds?

It is controlled through the BIS. Come back to the post (hit full comments). Then press Ctrl + F and in the search field type: Other important information

Why do you say the BOE is owned by the Rothschild when it is not? I seem to believe they advised on the creation of such a bank but it was put under control of the Treasury.

The BOE became private by the hand of other individuals (Dutch) in 1688. (No national debt existed in England previous to this.)

The Rothschilds gained control of the BOE (already private) in 1815. Buying bonds at near null prices taking advantage of the Napoleonic-British war disinformation incident.

Also this is the year Nathan Mayer Rothschild makes his famous statement:

I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply.

Can you please explain what this means "1997: Brown sets Bank of England free The Chancellor, Gordon Brown, has given the Bank of England independence from political control. "

How does Gordon Brown have influence over a private bank?

By diminishing government regulation. Private enterprises of all kinds are government regulated.

Hello, you can hit enter twice to make newlines.

You sound like a central bank asking people to just create new lines out of thin air!

That would make this list take up 5 screens.

Screens are almost free.

You can also put two spaces at the end of a line
to make a new line without making
a new paragraph.

Did not know that
thank you.

How can you prove to me that the Federal Reserve Bank of NY is "Rothschild" controlled? just listing banks is no evidence at all...

1791: The Rothschilds get the nations money through Alexander Hamilton (their agent in George Washington’s cabinet) when they set up a central bank in the USA called the First Bank of the United States. This is established with a 20 year charter.

1811: The charter for the Rothschilds Bank of the United States runs out and Congress votes against its renewal. Nathan Mayer Rothschild is not amused and he states,

"Either the application for renewal of the charter is granted, or the United States will find itself involved in a most disastrous war."

1812: Backed by Rothschild money, and Nathan Mayer Rothschild's orders, the British declare war on the United States. The Rothschilds plan was to cause the United States to build up such a debt in fighting this war that they would have to surrender to the Rothschilds and allow the charter for the Rothschild owned First Bank of the United States to be renewed.

1816: The American Congress passes a bill permitting yet another Rothschild dominated central bank, which gives the Rothschilds control of the American money supply again. This is called the Second Bank of the United States and is given a twenty year charter. The British war against the America therefore ends with the deaths of thousands of British and American soldiers, but the Rothschilds get their bank.

1832: President Andrew Jackson (the 7th President of the United States from 1829 to 1837), runs the campaign for his second term in office under the slogan, "Jackson And No Bank!" This is in reference to his plan to take the control of the American money system to benefit the American people, not for the profiteering of the Rothschilds.

1833: President Andrew Jackson starts removing the government's deposits from the Rothschild controlled, Second Bank of the United States and instead deposits them into banks directed by democratic bankers.

This causes the Rothschilds to panic and so they do what they do best, contract the money supply causing a depression. President Jackson knows what they are up to and later states,

"You are a den of thieves vipers, and I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out."

1836: Following his years of fighting against the Rothschilds and their central bank in America, President Andrew Jackson finally succeeds in throwing the Rothschilds central bank out of America, when the bank's charter is not renewed. It would not be until 1913 that the Rothschilds would be able to set up their third central bank in America, the Federal Reserve, and to ensure no mistakes are made, this time they will put one of their own bloodline, Jacob Schiff, in charge of the project.

1913: On March 4, Woodrow Wilson is elected the 28th President of the United States. Shortly after he is inaugurated, he is visited in the White House Samuel Untermyer, of law firm, Guggenheim, Untermyer, and Marshall, who tries to blackmail him for the sum of $40,000 in relation to an affair Wilson had whilst he was a professor at Princeton University, with a fellow professor's wife.

President Wilson does not have the money, so Untermyer volunteers to pay the $40,000 out of his own pocket to the woman Wilson had had the affair with, on the condition that Wilson promise to appoint to the first vacancy on the United States Supreme Court a nominee to be recommended to President Wilson by Untermyer. Wilson agrees to this.

Strangely enough, the same year that they do this they also set up their last and current central bank in America, the Federal Reserve. Congressman Charles Lindbergh stated following the passing of the Federal Reserve Act on December 23,

"The Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this Bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized.......The greatest crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill."

It is important to note that the Federal Reserve is a private company, it is neither Federal nor does it have any Reserve. It is conservatively estimated that profits exceed $150 billion per year and the Federal Reserve has never once in its history published accounts.

Yes, I understand the Federal Reserve is a bit shady and whatnot. You didn't answer my question at all of proof that it's controlled by the Rothschilds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Bank_of_New_York

The Federal Reserve banks are actually controlled by members of other companies. The board consists of

CEO of JP Morgan, CEO of Popular, CEO of Adirondack Trust Company.

So...are these secret Rothschilds? Do the Rothschild have controlling influence in those banks...?

TIL JP Morgan died owning only 19% of JP Mogan % Co. - The rest was owned by The Rothschild Family -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPMorgan_Chase#J.P._Morgan_.26_Company

Keep in mind, JPMorgan Chase owns shares in the NY Fed. (the other 11 as well)

Much better answer. I wonder how much they still own or how much influence they have?

Banks Who Own The Federal Reserve:

-1- Rothschild Banks of London & Berlin -2- Warburg Banks of Hamburg & Amsterdam -3- Lazard Brothers of Paris -4- Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy -5- Goldman, Sachs of NY -6- Lehman Brothers of NY -7- Kuhn Loeb Bank of NY (Now Shearson American Express) -8- Morgan Guaranty Trust of NY (Levi P Morton - J P Morgan Bank - Equitable Life - are principal shareholders) -9- Hanover Trust of NY (William and David Rockefeller of Chase National Bank NY are principal shareholders.)

It's all for profit and not for the people look at this ->

Bernanke in Denial 2005-2007... Bernanke telling people not to worry about housing, mortgages, or car companies in the years before the recession, like denying a train wreck that is coming down the tracks. Bernanke was chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisers, and now as chairman of the Federal Reserve, he's the fourth most powerful person in the world according to Newsweek.

Yes, I understand the Federal Reserve is a bit shady and whatnot.

Ah, delicate understatement. How grand.

Other important information

Bank for International Settlements (BIS), Basle, Switzerland Created in 1930 by the Rothschilds

Currently BIS holds:

• 7% of the world's available foreign exchange funds.
• 712 tons of gold.

"BIS sees as its primary job the stabilization of world financial markets. It accomplishes this through control of currencies."

*The BIS can launder money. E.g. U.S. tax money can be passed through the BIS to the IMF and from there anywhere. *

Officers and employees of BIS "enjoy immunity from criminal and administrative jurisdiction."

** No claims against BIS or its deposits may be enforced "without the prior agreement of the Bank."**

The Global Economy Meeting (GEM) of central bank governors under the auspices of the BIS is the primary group for the governance of central bank cooperation. All systemic emerging economies’ Central Bank governors participate.

You forgot some stuff.

Diamonds the complete control of the diamond market through debeers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Beers ) , rothschild owned and still operated( look at board of directors).

Gold, The Rothschilds ( specifically NM Rothschild & Sons in London) controlled the worlds gold market up until recently and mysteriously pulled out, http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/the-rothschild-story-a-golden-era-ends-for-a-secretive-dynasty-756388.html. ( not such a mystery imo, they are moving into bio sciences).

Bio-tech
Lately the Rothschilds have been moving their investment assets away from standards like gold/property into the bio sciences.
2011 - Chairman of BIO Europe (http://www.ebdgroup.com/bes/index.php )
World Vaccine Manufacturing Congress Lyon 2011
European Neurotech Investing and Partnering Summit 2011
Jenavalve -->http://www.jenavalve.de/
Deep brain Stimulation ( no joke)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/01/idUS158098+01-Jun-2011+HUG20110601
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_brain_stimulation

This list goes on and on, but they are heavily investing in the future of bio-tech.

Deep brain Stimulation is also via your commercial TV advertisements and brightly coloured childrens programmes (programming).

Diamonds are worthless rocks though. And there are huge diamond fields in Russia about to open up, completely out of the control of the deBeers company.

Um no there are not, unless you think US$9 billion anually is worthless. Also 80% of mined diamonds are for industrial use (27,000 kg annually).

It is true that there is competition, namely Russia ( there are some others), but remember that when you control distribution you control the market, and debeers has not only a wealth of global operations but also runs the actual distribution process. It's not simply a matter of finding something and selling it, they did not become the top players from being dunces.

Sounds like whoever there is an "officer or employee" is the ring leader and knows about all that's going on.

While all of this is good information to have, I think the average person is left saying "Ok, but what does all this mean?" I think it is widely accepted (whether we like it or not) that power tends to consolidate over time, until a point at which it tips the balance and the whole thing is dismantled. That being said, even if the IMF owns all the debt of all countries, what does it tell us? That power is already more consolidated than they would have us believe? The people in this subreddit already know this to be true anyway.

So the question is, how is the information useful? I think most people can see that we, as a civilization are heading toward times in which the rich and powerful enslave the proliteriat. Truth is though, that it is only in the developed world with our shiny objects and constant distractions that we don't acknowledge our already complicit slavery. The things that all people strive for... home ownership, business ownership, and even the institution of marriage and family are all ways that further bind you to the system, to force you to work jobs that you may hate in order to keep moving down the line.

The future is not bright. We know this. The dream of having a better and brighter tomorrow than we have today is only a tool for control or the dreams of the blissfully ignorant. There will come a day when we CAN ostensibly dream for a better tomorrow, but it will only be because THAT day is rock bottom. And if you don't know what rock bottom is, it is this: world-wide slavery, a destruction of intellectual materials, and death, lots and lots of death.

You all would be best served making only short-term plans and coming to terms with the fact that even if you believe it to be a priority to leave behind a better world than you inherited, that the masses AND the powers that be do NOT hold that as a priority. You're fighting an uphill battle. Please though, even with this information, do not allow yourself to become a cynic or stop attempting to make small positive changes. There will come a day when enough of the masses will become motivated to cast off their oppressors and at that time, you do not want to be a cynic.

Enjoy your little moments of happiness and spread them.

So the question is, how is the information useful?

JFK can answer that question.

"Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed — and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First Amendment — the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution — not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental, not to simply "give the public what it wants" — *but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold, educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.***

Great quote. Thank you.

Thank you for posting that exert from his speech. Amazing.

excerpt

thank you

RT @CNN

Those countries are public enemy number's 1, 2, 3 and 4 :/ This is astounding! The countries that are 'the axis of evil' are really only the ones with the balls to refuse to be owned.

Quick Question. I live in New Zealand. We didn't feel many of the effects of the recession, and the standard of living here is very high (I'm a student, i have ~$100 spending money per week and it's very manageable which says something about how my country works). Is our bank also controlled by the Rothchilds? Because I havn't seen any effects of this control so far.

If it wasn't for the Rothschilds you'd have ~$500 spending money per week.

The standard of living in the developed countries today is the same as it was in US and West Europe in the 70s. Think about all the increases of productivity since then, an average working man today probably does at least 500% more.

Every corporation and government agency used to have rooms and rooms full of typists - replaced by word editors and printers. A simple financial question like "At what price do we need to sell our main product next year to have $45M profit after tax" would take back then 20 accountants a week to answer, now it takes 5s with an electronic spreadsheet. A small change in the design of an airplane, car, building would take days to draw (by rooms full of technical drawers), now it's instant. Sending a business mail would take hours, days, weeks, now it's seconds. There are way better materials, batteries, measuring devices, etc. used in construction, agriculture, elsewhere.

Where did the money from this progress go? It went straight into the Rothschild banks, a small part was then redistributed among the supporters - the top 1 - politicians, ppl in financial industry, corporate C-level officers, media stars, etc.

The question I always ask when confronted with this stuff is:

To what end?

You're buying up the planet, consolidating the world's workforce, etc.

It can't just be 'because we're really, really greedy'. There's gotta be an endgame. So... you 'buy' the world... okay... then what?

You could travel back in time and ask Alexander 'The Great' or Julius Caesar:

Ok, we're invading all these kingdoms and making them part of the Empire. To what end? One day all the other kingdoms will be part of the Empire. Then what?

My interpretation. It is just about power. It is just the modern supremacy of the Khazarian empire. Working through the zionist disguise, along with others.

But... it doesn't mean anything. Not anymore. Okay, you own everything. No one knows. Unless that's the point. You buy everything and then, oh, I dunno, someone from the Rothschild clan comes out twirling a moustache and cackling that 'We own you all'.

Still... doesn't mean anything. You're a slave to the US, you're a slave to the Rothschilds... you've been owned since the day you were born.

Of course there's an endgame. Imagine controlling the world. Making history what you want it to be. Making the education of the masses what you want it to be. It's not about:

someone from the Rothschild clan comes out twirling a moustache and cackling that 'We own you all'.

It's about a few people using humanity as they please. Now, it's not the Rothschilds alone either. Also: Astor; Bundy; Collins; duPont; Freeman; Morgan; Oppenheimer; Rockefeller; Sassoon; Schiff; Taft;Van Duyn.

Different families control different parts of the pyramid . For example drug trade must remain illegal in order for some of these people to have an unfair income source. Drugs will not be legal if they do not want them to be. The government really has no say in this. The Rothschilds provided the basic infrastructure for everything else. Also these people keep having intermarrieges with each other.

People actually think the Walton family is the richest on earth, because they own a supermarket chain. While these other families run banking, manipulate governments, rule by proxy and have wealth beyond imagination.

Okay, so once the world is all proper divvied up then what? The families all turn on one another?

What's the "Khazarian empire"?

The territory controlled by the Khazars. Long after the fall of the Khazar Kaganate in the tenth century the name “Khazaria” continued to be used as a designation for the eastern Crimea.

The Great Soviet Encyclopedia, 3rd Edition (1970-1979)

Warren buffet said in a interview a few years back that he wasn't interested in making money for spending, it was all a game from that point on to see how much he could make. So you can see you get to a point of ultimate wealth and it becomes a game of power.

Power is an end in itself.

I work in a law firm and often think about how much more productive and automated everything is now than 50 years ago. The lower level associates still make the same basic live able wage. I've just assumed the partners make way more now. Any one know?

me_and_1 commented on this same topic as response to another comment located in a lower position of this post:

"Every corporation and government agency used to have rooms and rooms full of typists - replaced by word editors and printers. A simple financial question like "At what price do we need to sell our main product next year to have $45M profit after tax" would take back then 20 accountants a week to answer, now it takes 5s with an electronic spreadsheet. A small change in the design of an airplane, car, building would take days to draw (by rooms full of technical drawers), now it's instant. Sending a business mail would take hours, days, weeks, now it's seconds. There are way better materials, batteries, measuring devices, etc. used in construction, agriculture, elsewhere.

Where did the money from this progress go? It went straight into the Rothschild banks, a small part was then redistributed among the supporters - the top 1 - politicians, ppl in financial industry, corporate C-level officers, media stars, etc."

Another question if you have the time. Bill Gates is often referred to as 'the richest man alive' with a fortune of ~200 billion dollars. How has the rothchild banking cartel not made the head of the organisation much much more wealthy? Is the money tied up in some sort of investment or something so it doesn't appear as actual wealth to be counted? And what is your estimate for the true wealth of the 'world monarch' so to speak

Bill Gates at his peak back in 2000, before the dot com crush, had a little over $100B. In the last few years he has been transferring most of his money into a foundation. Rothchilds have done this back in the 19th century.

Their true wealth is surely hard to estimate, but it's probably in hundreds of trillions. US economy has around $50 trillion of debt, small parts of that are owned by China, oil and gas exporting nations, but the majority was lend by the Rothschilds. Europe, Japan, the rest of the world has massive amounts of debt also. Rothschilds and a few other Jewish banking oil families own all the big non-state banks in the world, control shares of all publicly traded corporations and so on.

Bill Gates is an interesting example of the banking racket. As Microsoft has been extremely profitable starting in the middle 80s, when DOS took up, he was very reluctant to sell his controlling share.

All that money is paid to middle management overheads. If you spend any time at a large company, you see it drain away.

Your country's economy could be deflated through the BIS at any given moment. If there was an interest to do so. Click full comments, hit Ctrl + F and in the search field type: Other important information. Economies plummet by deflation, if it were to happen they would blame it on bubbles or other superficial reasons but not on deflation. They will not ever blame your central bank for a recession.

And this applies to every other country in the world too?

So what your saying is, the world economy can crash at the whim of one person...?

Not one person. That's why they have 'The Think Tanks' like Bilderberg to decide what set of events should take place next in benefit of the agenda. The Rothschilds are just one of the most important families. They've provided most of the 'infrastructure' needed (economy wise) to be able to manipulate other aspects such as the political. 'The Think Tanks' are composed of both the people they influence and themselves. Other powerful families that work with the Rothschilds and have the same objectives in their agenda are Astor; Bundy; Collins; duPont; Freeman; Morgan; Oppenheimer; Rockefeller; Sassoon; Schiff; Taft; Van Duyn. They also practice intermarriege. If you want to know more research them individually.

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what do the Rothschilds have in their hands that prevents the central banks (or anybody actually) from resisting them?

bonds. i would guess. there are many examples where they crushed countries' economies for not cooperating.

Not only that, but this conglomerate pretty much dictates the direction our military goes. The united states is notice more than a military machine/cash cow for the Rothschild cartel.

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Surely it's a little bit more complex. But all those banks mentioned are governed by people selected by the Rothschilds.

Rothschilds&Co buy any media that gets popular, and people nowadays vote for whoever they see on TV. If some politician tries to disobey, well as a final solution there are airplane accidents, car accidents, medical accidents, lone shooters, etc.

Why is DR Paul alive then?

Because he hasn't done anything.

Iceland is a little bit further out from the mainland, plus it's full of white people. So, strafing the population with NATO's F16's is a little more difficult than it was in Libya.

If only dominating all the countries in Pandemic 2 were so easy. How did they get Madagascar and Argentina so easily?

It's called privatisation. Leaders see other nations 'advancing' and 'devoloping' faster than them. They look around, notice there's free-trade around them and just follow the herd. The minute they utter the word 'privatisation' you can bet the WB and the IMF will be at their doorstep and glad to assist them. The wiser nations that don't fall for this trick are the ones being invaded right now.

I was making a bad gamer joke. Apparently I failed.

Argentina's Economic Collapse (FULL VERSION)

Globalists created and control the biggest international groups (UN, NATO, WHO, IMF, UNICEF, IPCC, World Bank, EU etc.). They can put pressure on every nation with those international control systems. Plus they control also the media. Rothschilds have their agents all over the place and some are very well known (e.g. Rockefeller and Soros). Those agents are the ones who created those globalist institutions. Rockefeller for example created "The League of Nations" that was replaced by the UN.

so what will the Rothschildren do once they have conquered the world?

90% depopulation, then when the tech is good enough to make the remaining goy slaves superfluous, they'll be liquidated.

That makes no bloody sense. Accumulate massive amounts of wealth, conquer the world... then destroy 90% of your workforce? That's just silly.

90% are unneeded, they aren't a work force.

True. They're useless eaters.

they have been wanting to do this ever since the eugenics craze. well at least openly.

Yes, in their terms, that's how they view us, cattle to be used or done away with, not human.

Ah so that's why they built their Chiropteran army. It totally makes sense now.

Don't worry the reptillians will protect us. We've been wrong about them for so long.

I hope they launch all of our missiles. I'm so for the annihilation of the human race right now. We are a plight on the universe.

blight

Nice, a self-hating human being. Your daddy should have beat the ever living shit out of you when he had the chance.

Thanks for helping me make my case.

1 person fucks up = EXTINCT HUMANITY, ALL IS HOPELESS

Are the members of this family bad people?

Go to youtube...search Rothchild. There is a ling history of evil doing going back centuries.

For an unbiased, objective, both sided discussion right?

No, it's jus tone sided with a political motive, which would be considered porpoganda if it wasn't an 'alternative' viewpoint.

Yes but all families has it's assholes. The relevant question is: are the rothchild family evil by nature? Do they all cooperate to commit evil acts? I've seen no evidence to prove that, only conspiracy theories. Just being rich and successful is not evil in itself. And despite the reddit hivemind, being a zionist (by it's core value: the jews need a homeland and that homeland is israel) is not evil by itself either.

Yea, the evil part is the apartheid government where they make Palestinians walk on the other side of the street, build walls between their primary farm trading routes, destroy homes that have been there for decades, without even any compensation, to build new permanent settlements and bombing entire apartment complex in retaliation for lone bombers.

If you're so concerned that Israel is perhaps unfair in it's treatment of Palestine, perhaps you could use a refresher on the Arab apartheid... It seems Israel is the only nation that ever cared about them, even in the face of crushing oppression and endless libel from Arab countries (especially Egypt). Enlightening bit of history.

"...Tens of millions, among them Jews, suffered from the “nakba,” which included dispossession, expulsion and displacement. Only the Palestinians remained refugees because they were treated to abuse and oppression by the Arab countries..."

Let's assume what you're saying is 100% correct for all israeli streets and 100% of israeli population supports this.

This still does not counterargue what i just said! I said that the core value of zionism, which is that jews need a homeland and that homeland is israel, is not evil. If you want to argue with what I said then argue with that.

And it's still not my main point. My main point is that there's no evidence the rothchild family is evil by nature in any way or has more assholes than any other family. Is your family free of assholes? How would you like if the world judged your whole family based on those few assholes? That's called prejudice, which sadly is common among people talking zionist conspiracy.

I dunno why you are getting down votes. Of course they're not evil BY NATURE.

That is to say, if you took a Rothchild baby at birth, and raised them in an average family in Wisconsin, it would be an average American kid.

Theres nothing in your family DNA that makes you do anything, it's learned behavior.

I dunno why you are getting down votes. Of course they're not evil BY NATURE. That is to say, if you took a Rothchild baby at birth, and raised them in an average family in Wisconsin, it would be an average American kid.

Fair enough. But would you then argue that the rothchild family is evil by nurture? Do you think they have an evil culture, an evil ideology? And does all rotschild members share these evil values? I bet they are pretty much like any other family in terms of morals and values. I feel this demonisation of a whole family is just discrediting the people who argues like that, while they might have a point about individual familymembers doing immoral acts. Why not just state the facts about the individuals instead?

Why do the Jews NEED a homeland? As a full blooded Acadian ("Cajun") my ancestors were sent into exile, but we never got our own country. And why do the Jews get to take their "homeland" from the Palestinians?

Perhaps this will convince you why the jews need a homeland of their own:

Hitler responded to the news of the conference by saying essentially that if the other nations would agree to take the Jews, he would help them leave. “ I can only hope and expect that the other world, which has such deep sympathy for these criminals [Jews], will at least be generous enough to convert this sympathy into practical aid. We, on our part, are ready to put all these criminals at the disposal of these countries, for all I care, even on luxury ships.[3] ” Ultimately the conference was a failure, at least from the point of view of the Jews and their sympathizers, with both the United States and Britain refusing to take in substantial numbers of Jews. Most of the countries at the conference followed suit, the result being that the Jews had no escape and were ultimately subject to what was known as Hitler's "Final Solution to the Jewish Question". The conference was seen by some as "an exercise in Anglo-American collaborative hypocrisy."[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89vian_Conference

Basically, the rest of the world had a chance to save the jews from the future holocaust. But they chose not to. How much would you trust other nations to protect you after that if you were a jew?

Also the jewhate is common both in the islamic and christian world, put those together and that's a hell of a big part of the world.

Israel is a very very small country. And "the jews" didn't take the homeland from palestinians, there has been jews living there for thousands of years and much land was bought. And there has never been a nation called palestine.

Just because Zionists believe Israel should be a Jewish homeland doesn't mean the rest of the people living in that area agree. And they haven't ever agreed, even though Israel continues to pursue extreme measures to provide more living space for Israelis. Some right-wing nuts in Israel have outright called for the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people, or at least their complete removal. So, perhaps Zionists need to learn to fucking share or compromise? Why do we, non-Zionists (and this includes many thousand of secular Hebrews) need to feel such concern for recognizing a Jewish state? If this is correct logic, then we all need to pack up the US and give it back to the Native Americans. This whole isolationist stance of the Zionists simply doesn't work in a global village.

expansive settlements needs to stop. So does all ambition of destroying israel. Don't mix up the extreme right in israel with the israel mainstream. I bet you don't like when american conservatives mix up extremist muslims and mainstream muslims? Well same goes for israelis.

I don't feel that, after re-reading my post, I've confused the two. I'm aware of the protests going on in Israel, and the extremist, right-wing political dominance in that country.

Yeah I should've been more clear in my wording. I didn't mean you specifically, I meant people in general need to stop demonising israelis and see the dynamics within the country.

I dated a Jewish immigrant from the Ukraine, and she has lots of family in Israel and is very proud of that country. She taught me a lot about the beauty of the nation. I have Palestinian friends, as well, who've had some absolutely nightmare situations to pass along to anyone who would bother hearing it out. It's a really tough situation.

yeah idd. It's the peaceful moderates on both sides that are the hope for peace for both people, and the extremes fucking it up. It's a sad and very frustrating situation.

Steady as we grow. I think moderation is starting to peak its head out all over the world now.

Lets hope so!

Also, I just want to say that I am not trying to "destroy" Israel. I don't think it's balanced to see my disdain for Israel's actions against the Palestinians as anything but trying to address human rights. Those extend to everyone, Israelis and Palestinians, alike. We are all in this together.

Robbing people does not equal success. I don't care if your last name is Capone or Rothschild.If the Ashkenazi Jews really wanted a land to be "safe" they should've made Israel in Alaska. There's no justification for them to take the land away from the Palestinians. Much less take it away. These "Jews" aren't even semitic in the first place.

Hijacking the banking system to manipulate American politics is a crime.

The FED is illegal, per Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution. Not one state legally ratified the 16th Amendment making income tax legal.

We are talking about criminals here. Who are using America's army to fight zionist wars and hijack the banking system, political system and resources of other sovereign nations.

Rogue from the Cruxshadows is one of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_(musician) All hail our goth overlords.

What? Where in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_(musician) does it say anything about his connection to the Rothchild family? Genuinely curious...

born Virgil Roger du Pont III, July 4, 1972. He's possibly a duPont

Edit: formatting inept

I have a hobby as a genealogist that makes me for sure attached to Henry Longshanks the ass in the movie "Braveheart". I have as much identification with this genetic attachment as I'm sure our Cruxshadows friend does. BTW it's crazy but I have met them and I actually really like a few of their songs lol.

I believe this is the exact question for which the phrase "LOLOLOL" was invented for. Yes, they are quite bad and I'd say a bit weird : they seek wealth instead of happiness.

Really? Even if the person genuinely isn't informed? It's not the question where you can enlighten someone, but laugh? Okay, thanks for being so helpful!

Ah, this is the problem with no-body-language on the internet. I was NOT being sarcastic or disdainful at all, just laughing, and informing you that they are quite evil, actually. To my discredit, I didn't really educate you, so my bad.

Dr. Kitty Little

awwwwwwwwww

What about Finland or Norway?

The Bank of Finland transfers its debt to: London bank, N.M. Rothschild & Sons.

The Central Bank of Norway transfers its debt to: Basle, Switzerland, Bank for International Settlements (created in 1930 by the Rothschilds.)

Hi I live in Sweden and I have read about the rotchschild family, and how do you find where all the banks transfer their debt to? Also where does Sveriges Riksbank (our national bank) transfer it's debt and can you give me a source for future use?

Sveriges Riksbank transfers its debt to: Basle, Switzerland, Bank for International Settlements. (created in 1930 by the Rothschilds.)

Acquired shares in the BIS when it was established in 1930. Currently the Riksbank holds 17,244 shares

Riksbank governors have been elected members of the BIS Board of Directors with few interruptions since 1937.

I too would like to know about sources, cause pulling data out of nowhere is not going to convince me.

Do you have more details on the Swiss National Bank? And again, what is your source?

I would like sources too.

source

I don't think you understand what the BIS is for.....

It's to maximize your gear!

Is that simply because they are the bondholders?

When I think about global conspiracy, I have to stop and consider all of the HAARP stations around the globe, the chem-trail situation, mind-bending audio sub-frequencies used in electronic music, the rapid succession of natural and man-made disasters that have taken place over the last 5 years. All of the questions surrounding 911 and other potential "false-flag" events, the rapid advance in holographic technologies, etc. I am having a more difficult time believing all of this isn't somehow tied together. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but when it piles up it's hard to dismiss outright...especially when many of the incidences that the world's seen recently line-up with what I read about "The Blue Beam Project" back in 2005. At the time I thought it was complete lunacy, but over time it's starting to coincide accurately with what's really occurring in our world. I'd say everyone should pay very close attention and don't believe everything that you see/hear. Trust in your neighbor and your community, not your government.

"I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but when it piles up it's hard to dismiss outright...especially when many of the incidences that the world's seen recently line-up with what I read about "The Blue Beam Project" back in 2005. "

I felt the same way due to reading a certain book that was published in '91 explaining the ties between the Bush family and Bin Laden. (among many other things)

Boards of Canada are out to get you.

oh nos!

At the same time, you may come to find that what one calls a conspiracy theory, actually is a conspiracy of it's own. Time and again it's been suggested that these or those technologies are all being used against you to this or that end, but it's typically not the rather pedestrian technology that you should worry about - it's the suggestion. That suggestion has such a profound effect, just watch how it affects how you act and who you trust. Perhaps there are things in plain sight which you should be paying more attention to.

There are those who benefit greatly from rabble-rousing, and when you trust them enough to overstep reality, it can cost you dearly. That is all.

I have a hard time seeing my post as rabble-rousing. The fact is, though, that with the chemtrails, HAARP, and other dubious technologies, it's hard to dismiss the fact that none of the explanations provided about any of these actions have adequately satisfied the questions posed about their nature and purpose. I'm not jumping on a fringe theory without giving it due consideration, and the jury is still out with many of these circumstances, but I feel it's important to take it all in to consideration, especially when looking at the direction our world is heading and trying to define the real intentions behind government activities that are less than forthcoming.

To be honest, I didn't see your post as rabble-rousing either. I was referring more to those who take such "mysteries" and presume to tell you exactly what they are for, who's doing what, why, and what you should do about it, when few of such claims really pass any cursory examination, though they may seem true. The causes for concern may remain, but you may be distracted from their actual origin, which may often be much simpler than you think.

Case study: Alex Jones, for instance, assigns evil character and personality traits to even the most well intentioned, benign organizations, and in a few cases I've seen, openly condemned groups that he should be rooting for if he knew better - but you can't tell him anything. You can scarcely oppose his viewpoints in the forums, and even if you could get through to him, his mind's made up. I truly believe that given the chance, He would have stood beside Ahmadinejad at the UN and condemned the "New World Order" not realizing that to them it means "America"(as in, "Death to"), the solution to which is the election of those who are for shariah rule, as is the stated goal of "Moderate Islamic" organizations throughout the Middle East, Europe and America... Libya is only the beginning... You can be a 99%'er if it makes you feel better, but don't let "the elite" distract you from the even bigger picture. While many of such are opportunistic and seemingly corrupt, they're not as much in control as some would have you believe, and there may even be worthy motives behind some of the kleptocracy that we see (not all, but some).

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If you join AJ in shouting "9/11 was an inside job, there were bombs in the buildings," you will find there is evidence against your claim. If instead you were to state "9/11 seems suspicious because people were aware of this possible scenario and it was still allowed to happen, and by the way we were attacked by enemies" then you might have something more accurate and engaging to look at. "Bombs" may well have been the biggest strawman argument ever. This coming from a former advocate of AJ. Just ask anyone in /r/conspiratard

Ugh...Alex Jones thinks everything is out to get everyone. I don't pay him any attention.

Hmm i wonder how long till they fall also.

Sudan and Iran won't last long IMHO.

Cuba and North Korea may go on as experiments on totalitarian control.

China and Russia don't have private central banks, nor does Venezuela. I can't help wondering if Israel does.

Yes. They do.

China: The People's Bank of China (Sounds pretty official doesn't it?)

1949:

On October 1, Mao Tse Tsung declares the founding of the People's Republic Of China in Tiananmen Square, Beijing. He is funded by Rothschild created Communism in Russia and also the following Rothschild agents: Solomon Adler, a former United States Treasury official who was a Soviet Spy; Israel Epstein, the son of a Jewish Bolshevik imprisoned by the Tsar in Russia for trying to forment a revolution there; and Frank Coe, a leading official of the Rothschild owned IMF.

Russia: Central Bank of Russia

1917:

The Rothschilds order the execution by the Bolsheviks they control, of Tsar Nicholas II and his entire family in Russia, even though the Tsar had already abdicated on March 2. This is both to get control of the country and an act of revenge for Tsar Alexander I blocking their world government plan in 1815 at the Congress Of Vienna, and Tsar Alexander II siding with President Abraham Lincoln in 1864.

I cannot put everthing in a comment, that's why I provided links to the history.

They have central banks, of course; but they are not private at this time. That's not to say NWO has not tried, of course; their efforts have indeed been vigorous all through the 20th century and into this one, as you say; but they were ultimately not successful in getting control of those countries' money (such rotten luck with strongmen), that's why NWO is ramping up WWIII; Russia could not be intimidated into it by the cold war and subsequent depression, and the ring of missiles thing is not catching on very well; China double-crossed them by taking the American manufacturing base and not the PCB, and it isn't clear at all that getting control of all the oil and other minerals in the rest of the world will make them. Putin keeps a Rothschild oligarch in prison as a warning to the others, and Hu keeps telling the Chinese Rothschild agents to be patient, someday they'll take it when the time is right; it can take China a long time to get around to things though, LOL. Meanwhile, both the US and NATO are beginning to falter before even getting to Syria, and NWO has certain astrological deadlines to meet; so yeah, shit's about to get real. They always do this.

It doesn't matter if the central bank is private, what matters is who sets the policy and nominates the executives. The central banks of EU, UK, France, Germany, Japan, etc. are state owned, but they are as closely controlled by the Rothschilds as is FED.

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It's a big chess game, of course. Just guessing, I'd say they are buying time by being as non-confrontational as their interests allow.

probably buying time...

But why Libya than ?

part of a plan for african subordination

control the middle east and northern africa and you control land routes

& if you control the sea already .... then you have a larger control over that area

About Venezuela you're right:

The government prepaid its debt with the World Bank in 2007. Since then there is no active Bank project or lending portfolio in Venezuela.

I actually don't see the U.S. invading Venezuela any time soon. Perhaps we'll see another 'sudden revolution' happen.

Those are popular these days. :)

Like the 1973 coup in Chile (September 11th, 1973), started by the US and which lead to the deaths of 11,000 civilians.

Or when we the CIA tried to overthrow Chavez a few years ago.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/5437251/CIA-plot-to-kill-Hugo-Chavez.html

Interesting facts, it makes all the shit more real.

What exactly does that mean when you say a Rothschild controlled bank. How is the Central Bank of Nigeria such a bank?

Syria next?

So it seems.

Amazing find. Thanks

syria?

They come next. Apparently.

Any chance you could throw in some of the history of how they outsted the Bank of Canada and took control of the Canadian system?

Click full comments, hit Ctrl + F, in the search field type: Other important information

Canadian author Linda McQuaig has looked into the Bank of Canada.

Any recent pictures of head Rothchilds? Do they look like vampires?

Here's the Family tree.

Google images for the ones that are currently alive.

it's amazing their fortune all started here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb3jAtSzSrs

the intolerant and offensive nature of your comments are being discussed in our subreddit. if you have anything to say in your defense, we'd like to hear it.

There's nothing intolerant and offensive in here. Only your ignorance.

Is it shocking that none of the above countries can survive without massive imports? Not a single one can even produce enough food to feed it's own people. Why don't more of you guys who know the "troof" look into relocating to these places? Iran is a haven for the expression of free ideas, ask Neda.

I'm genuinely curious - do you guys actually believe this shit, or do you just play-pretend to spice up a dull reality?

A few of you are of course paranoid schizophrenics, but I'm guessing a lot of you just find this crap titillating. Correct?

Hi I live in Sweden and I have read about the rotchschild family, and how do you find where all the banks transfer their debt to? Also where does Sveriges Riksbank (our national bank) transfer it's debt and can you give me a source for future use?

Is that simply because they are the bondholders?

1 person fucks up = EXTINCT HUMANITY, ALL IS HOPELESS

Some crazy wormhole shit, because greed and psychosis aren't enough to turn men evil.

I believe he means the Rothschilds and other families who control different aspects of the economic and political infraestructure of the world (Astor; Bundy; Collins; duPont; Freeman; Kennedy; Morgan; Oppenheimer; Rockefeller; Sassoon; Schiff; Taft; Van Duyn.) have pagan beliefs. Numerology, Astrology and many other related things. Hence they belong (and the people they control) to various masonic lodges and other secret societies. For instance a 1st degree mason would think his lodge's activities relate only to welfare and community development and higher degree masons would know this is not the case. Everything works in a need to know basis , the higher you climb the more you know. Rik Clay covers dates and numbers in relation to this topic.

Bill Gates at his peak back in 2000, before the dot com crush, had a little over $100B. In the last few years he has been transferring most of his money into a foundation. Rothchilds have done this back in the 19th century.

Their true wealth is surely hard to estimate, but it's probably in hundreds of trillions. US economy has around $50 trillion of debt, small parts of that are owned by China, oil and gas exporting nations, but the majority was lend by the Rothschilds. Europe, Japan, the rest of the world has massive amounts of debt also. Rothschilds and a few other Jewish banking oil families own all the big non-state banks in the world, control shares of all publicly traded corporations and so on.

Bill Gates is an interesting example of the banking racket. As Microsoft has been extremely profitable starting in the middle 80s, when DOS took up, he was very reluctant to sell his controlling share.

I dunno why you are getting down votes. Of course they're not evil BY NATURE. That is to say, if you took a Rothchild baby at birth, and raised them in an average family in Wisconsin, it would be an average American kid.

Fair enough. But would you then argue that the rothchild family is evil by nurture? Do you think they have an evil culture, an evil ideology? And does all rotschild members share these evil values? I bet they are pretty much like any other family in terms of morals and values. I feel this demonisation of a whole family is just discrediting the people who argues like that, while they might have a point about individual familymembers doing immoral acts. Why not just state the facts about the individuals instead?

Screens are almost free.

I would love to see the peer-reviewed and researched papers you love some much to prove all the dates, names and events in this post wrong. Please point us to them.

Do you truly think that the entire income of the United States Federal Government is from income taxes?

And what I said is equivalent to saying, if you reduce your unnecessary expenditures, you can reduce your income while maintaining your standard of living. That is, stop wasting your money on booze and whores and you won't be in debt.

Powers of Queen Elizibeth II

1) The power to choose the Prime Minister

2) The power to dismiss ministers and the government

3) The power to dissolve parliament and call new elections

4) The power to refuse legislation passed by the parliament

5) The power to issue proclamations with the consent of the parliament

6) The power to command the armed forces and raise a personal militia

7) The right to read confidential government documents and intelligence reports

8 ) The power to declare a state of emergency

9) The power to dismiss a prime minister

10) The power to advise and warn

11) The power to call elections and enact laws in her majesty's name

12) The power to pardon convicted criminals

13) The power to exercise "Crown Prerogative" - [which means the Queen can declare war through her prime minister without even the agreement of Parliament]

14) The power to grant and bestow titles

Why has the queen been allowed to retain these powers - for the sake of tradition?

What exactly is the meaning of the term 'The Crown' ? The Crown is defined as executive powers exercised in the name of the Monarch. The actual crown itself is a symbol of Executive Powers.

The parliamentary oaths act of 1866 requires all leaders of 54 commonwealth nations to swear an oath of loyalty to the Queen, not to the people who elected them. "I swear by almighty God that I will be faithful, and bear true Allegiance to her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors according to law, so help me God." Those who do not swear allegiance to the Queen are deemed unfit for office, including the prime minister, police, military, judges, legislators, lawyers, and public servants. New citizens to the Queen's common wealth nations must swear allegiance to the Queen. Public land in the Queen's colonies, like Canada, is called "Crown Land". Government corporations are called "Crown Corporations" The Central bank of Canada and the Canadian Mint are Crown Corporations, independent of most government control.