Alex Jones - A NWO Shill?
30 2011-11-02 by gambaa
Why is he still alive? Is he a shill? A fearmongerer? Why do the elite let him spread his ''truth''.
Please enlighten me on who he is (and I already watch the bill cooper vs him).
30 2011-11-02 by gambaa
Why is he still alive? Is he a shill? A fearmongerer? Why do the elite let him spread his ''truth''.
Please enlighten me on who he is (and I already watch the bill cooper vs him).
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10 [deleted] 2011-11-02
Hes not a disinformation agent, hes a muckraker and a hustler trying to make money.
2 its_me02 2011-11-02
That is a very good collection. Thank you very much!
0 [deleted] 2011-11-02
Disinfo agent or not, 98% accurate information is pretty damn good percentage
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1 crackiswhackexcept 2011-11-02
yeah, he's right. it'd be one thing if that 2% was accidental, but i highly doubt it is. if you're getting fed 2% bullshit on purpose, you can bet your ass that the 98% of truth isn't worth as much as that 2%.
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1 presidentofwhat 2011-11-02
Scare you into submission. You're just one person.. what can you do?
0 codephined 2011-11-02
what he's accomplished is pushing real issues into the mainstream and turning them into talking points. there are millions of listeners getting his information now-a-days compared to a very small minority just 5 years ago. as far as being a hustler, he has a business to run. there is nothing wrong with running a business and making money for yourself, hell, i do that.
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1 codephined 2011-11-02
well i've been a listener since '99 ... and he's always called out Israel when people should have. I don't remember which site i read above, it was littered with "his wife is a jew", jew this, jew that.... frankly it's totally ridiculous. i think you just have issues with jews and want to obsess about it. ...and the money bombs....i think it is a great idea for people to donate to a cause they can actually see their donations go to work with more hired help and more professional productions. I guess you believe the Ron Paul campaign moneybomb is terribly bad, too.
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1 codephined 2011-11-02
i have seen these, and was listening live during a few of those....
let me be clear, I support a State of Israel. What i do NOT support is the Israeli gov'ts campaign for genocide against the Palestinian peoples and the Talmudic teachings and practices (zionism).
It would be the same as saying I support the nation United States, but i do not condone or support the government.
You people get so caught up in trying to make AJ into some zionist agent...lol. Most of them apparently aren't even listeners, with the whole Iran thing going on right now and Israel pushing for a war. He's been covering it tirelessly for about a month, damning the Israeli gov'ts push for war. Of course, this will never be used by people like you who are obsessed with jewish ties from AJ to the Easter Bunny...
it's really comical.
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1 codephined 2011-11-02
again, apparently you aren't a listener. i remember that rant, and there was more to that. though, i have heard Jones say some things that i knew were untrue, but almost all of the information stands on it's own legs.
it'd be like if i were a protestant christian and took scripture out of context to fabricate the pre-tribulation rapture theory.
i'm not a part of some cult-of-personality with Jones, what drives me back to infowars.com is not to listen to the grumbly voice of Jones, or the tirades, or the rants, but the caliber of the information.
2 EyesfurtherUp 2011-11-02
that's how you manipulate people. it is much easier to deceive if you add kernels of truth. he is just another lackey that perpetuates the division amongst our fellow humans.
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2 EyesfurtherUp 2011-11-02
exactly
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2 boldtu 2011-11-02
98% is great if you believe what you are saying is 100% correct. if you are intentionally misleading, it is all worthless. Alex Jones is a fear monger. I believe he is full of shit.
0 joe123456 2011-11-02
Zionist disinfo agent!
0 redcardesign 2011-11-02
"Its not the Joos!" -- Bill Cooper
0 timma87 2011-11-02
Interesting
-1 Dragas 2011-11-02
How many fucking times have i seen this post, i have been in r/conspiracy for 2 years now and im sick of these post.
Bill cooper doesnt ever get shit for saying the bilderberg group happend in a sub under the polar ice caps. But i still to this day see.... alex jones y2k, alex jones the arabs run hollywood, alex jones 2009 predictions. For fuck sakes bill cooper said he found secrect government documents in the navy.
Enough of these type of post.
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1 Dragas 2011-11-02
Im not in his "clut". Mark dice is my favorite guy to learn from in this movement.
He claims mock human sacifices, which i still think goes on. I think its been blown out of proportion. But i still feel it could wake many christians up since gays getting married gets them on the front lines in full force.
Could you imagine if alex jones said "he was mislead by various people whom he trusted." Nobody would belive him and he would get flamed like never before.
Do you not see the hypocrisy?
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0 Dragas 2011-11-02
I think you're angry at mark because he is somewhat of a conservative and he is angry at OWS because there are socialist who have pretty much taken over.
Let me ask you do you really think if most people knew what happend at bohemian grove people wouldnt be having major protest.
Besides major leaders have met at bohemian grove in private such as, george bush, newt gingrich, ronald regan, richard nixion ect.
Alex has admited he is wrong in the past about going crazy and shit like that. But my point was what if alex came out and said, sorry i got the wrong info about (insert topic) wont happen again.
The trolls would have there way with alex and make 20 documentaries exposing alex jones.
8 12characters 2011-11-02
Here's how I see it: Alex Jones is flaky, but a lot of what he says is truth. If he were silenced, he would become a martyr. It's better in the long term for them to try and discredit him. My 2 ¢
1 blarfmar 2011-11-02
He puts out some good info but never ever anything about the zionists. Which should be a glaring red flag. Especially how he reacts whenever anyone asks him about zionism.
1 Nobody_special 2011-11-02
There is a few people who get a pass.
2 gambaa 2011-11-02
david icke comes in mind but he's got his pass by them for spreading uber major disinfo such as lezard theory. A pass for a pass I guess.
1 [deleted] 2011-11-02
Donald Rumsfeld does not deny that he is not a lizard.
0 Aufbruch 2011-11-02
He also claims to have been personally visited by the archangel Gabriel.
The question the becomes: Is the archangel Gabriel a Zionist?
-3 tttt0tttt 2011-11-02
That's the one thing about Jones's message that doesn't ring true. If he is as awake as he says he is, he's got to be aware that the Zionists are the main problem facing the Western world, and indeed the entire world in general. He's always ranting about some nebulous "globalists" -- well, Alex, who are the globalists? They are mostly Zionists. His refusal to seriously criticize Zionism or Israel is the thing that keeps me from embracing his message. It just doesn't make any sense, unless he's been shilling for the Zionists all along.
-1 gambaa 2011-11-02
that's how I see it too. but honestly, would it change ANYTHING if he was martyr'd. I mean the people won't rise up for him. I'm sorry, just talk a look at Mickael jackson - they will fake his death. I mean, it could be easy for the elite to fake his death dont you think?
3 Pazimov 2011-11-02
It could be possible he's just affraid to be labeled an antisemite. We all know they love to tar and feather people they don't like with the anti-semitism accusations.
7 dmareddit 2011-11-02
He claimed to have inside sources who said the US was ready to go to war with Iran within two weeks. That's two weeks from the arrest of the Iran bombing plot against the Saudi ambassador. It's been three weeks and I have yet to hear the war drums anymore about going to Iran. Delayed? Maybe. But Alex said he had inside sources close to the matter. He just lost my support and belief he had any credibility. Yes I like when he points out things I was unaware of, but when he cries wolf and says something is being planned, I'll take a pass thanks.
3 tttt0tttt 2011-11-02
Ha! I've been following this prediction also. It was hilarious a couple of days ago to hear him back-peddle on the attack on Iran prediction. Originally, he said uncategorically that there was a green light, and that Israel would attack Iran within two weeks. No uncertainty. The attack would come within two weeks. Well, that was more than three weeks ago, and the other day he said that there was going to be a green light, but that it was delayed, and the attack might or might not come depending on the ongoing political process. Total, sleaze-bag weasel, going back on his own words. That was very interesting to take note of, when it comes to deciding whether Alex Jones is to be taken seriously. He has a selective memory when it comes to what he said, and to the truth.
2 allurersmeteoroid 2011-11-02
He said the same thing about a full scale land invasion of Libya
7 [deleted] 2011-11-02
Sounds likely he's a shill.
4 Magzy 2011-11-02
Weather hes nwo or not he serves them by showing the agenda And, in turn offering no real solution, It serves the NWO because it makes people feel hopelessly enslaved and hopelessly powerless. So he's actually doing them a favor. (and so is about 95% of the conspiracy community)...
If he was suicided, he would become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
1 WTFppl 2011-11-02
If he was beat to death in public by someone on his own side, he would be forgot the next day!
1 crackiswhackexcept 2011-11-02
upvote for "feel hopelessly enslaved."
you're onto something. that's the main purpose of his type of disinfo from what i've been able to gather. same with that haarp bullshit.
"don't fuck with us, we control EVERYTHING. we can even create an earthquake on demand. you can't fuck with that, so don't fuck with us."
it's the same principle as what happens when a cat arches its back and hisses at you. it's saying "come any closer and i'll fuck you up." the problem is that sometimes, other cats are truly intimidated by the display. same happens to people. we get paranoidos who hide from the bogeymen because they don't understand it's just a defensive tactic.
3 Necronomiconomics 2011-11-02
Alex is COINTELPRO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqNKUvCQFok
The NWO = Transnational Corporations.
Transnational Corporations are loyal to no government or country, but purchasing and owning all governments. In effect, this is a de facto One World Government, owned & controlled by Goldman Sachs.
Alex defends corporations, because he says that any laws regulating or limiting corporations having Absolute Power would be socialism.
1 blarfmar 2011-11-02
Oh the irony. If the government didn't have those powers to beegin with what would be the point in buying politicians?
1 redcardesign 2011-11-02
Love the we need to incite violence quote at 4:16. Clearly cut and pasted together.
3 ProfaneInTheBrain 2011-11-02
I think AJ’s job is primarily to exaggerate everything and make things sound as diabolical as possible so that when things really do change, they don’t seem half as bad as AJ warned people.. so people are more accepting of those changes because it’s an improvement on what AJ told them. So the negative change, in his listeners eyes becomes a positive and subsequently results in little resistance.
2 NattyRedd 2011-11-02
I don't want to start a shitstorm but what sort of implications does AJ's involvement with Ron Paul's campaign indicate? Infowars moneybomb is an interesting conduit but not really a top contributor to the Congressman's campaign. Yet AJ is definitely peddling something of a narrative around Paul's electability - something I too have keenly observed over the years. Is this relationship just borne out of larger social phenomena? Or am I simply paranoid? Hints? Suggestions?
2 [deleted] 2011-11-02
Many people believe he used to be Bill Hicks. Their mutual friend and producer Kevin Booth has said he thinks the Alex character is actually funnier than Bill! I concur.
2 SilentNick3 2011-11-02
Because the world at large doesn't know about or give a shit about him and what he has to say.
For ratings and ad revenue? Probably. Otherwise, no.
Yes. He makes up enough ridiculous bullshit and distorts facts that it should be obvious by now that he a fearmongerer.
Because he isn't really spreading any "truth", just a bunch of exaggerations, half-truths, vague "predictions". Once in a while. he might be correct, but as they say: "Even a broken clock is right twice a day".
In a nutshell, this guy is a fearmongerer. If the "conspiracy movement" wants to ever be taken seriously, they need to rid themselves of Alex Jones.
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Ron Paul has hand signs?
1 tttt0tttt 2011-11-02
Jones was great today! I really thought he was going to lose his mind completely. He was screaming and crying and using that fake southern preacher cadence in his voice that he enjoys so much. He ranted incoherently for almost the entire three hours. He started talking about his dreams, and how he gets visions in his dreams, and when he wakes up, he isn't sure if it was a dream or if it was real. Man, when you can't tell the difference between dreams and reality, that's a sign of mental trouble. His first guest, that skinny little English dude who works for him, was so frightened by his crazy ranting, he could barely find any words. I think he thought Alex had finally lost it completely.
1 Aufbruch 2011-11-02
But he enjoys cosplay so much:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFTQjJUjmS4
C'mon, could a man who dresses up like Darth Vader and expects you to take him seriously be evil?
1 digger_ex_pat 2011-11-02
The best way to discredit a "truth" is to let a "nut job" talk about it.
1 EyesfurtherUp 2011-11-02
I would occasionally listen to his podcasts especially after I tired of listening to the MSM circle jerk. one day, days before Giffords was shot he was going off on the NWO and how they were coming to kill you. How they will hunt us all down. How they were coming for us. I was like why are you trying to cause panic?
1 Bbaily 2011-11-02
Honey pot. It is a bit odd that he's never been really accosted by the law. The rest of what he says is hearsay. If I were really looking to put someone away to end the opposition it would be him and then I would take his mailing list and all of his clients and forum and I'd have a huge list of people to arrest and take to camp fema :)
0 wordgirl11 2011-11-02
aj has to bounce around the israel jewish thing or otherwise be black listed....
-1 ThePantheistPope 2011-11-02
He claims to be protected by God, that is why he would say he is alive.
Alex is a nut, but has a lot of good info.
-2 0w1Farm 2011-11-02
Drop the 'NWO' talk. It is a three letter acronym that stands for an international relations vocab term rather than an actual global organization. The 'NWO' you speak of is a conglomerate of the US MIC and multi-national corporations. The black heart of this group is the Zionist outfit in Israel.
Alex Jones is an NWO shill? No. Alex Jones is a Zionist shill? Yes.
addendum: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_world_order_%28politics%29
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1 [deleted] 2011-11-02
You could replace New World Order with "politicians" or "the government" it doesn't matter what we call it. Bad people are bad.
1 tttt0tttt 2011-11-02
True, but I have a minor quibble there. Politicians are the lapdogs of the New World Order. They take their marching orders from higher up. They don't really run things.
1 [deleted] 2011-11-02
it's just an example. I'm saying we can replace words all day, but it doesn't change who the enemy is. Zionist, Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, Atheist, Satanist. At the end of the day, does it matter what they are? It's what they're doing that is the problem.
-7 MartinTimothy 2011-11-02
Alex is damned if does and damned if he does not, he either goes to Hell after a lifetime as criminal conspirator, or he turns on the conspiracy, and 'fesses up to everything he knows.
When a Mafiosi recruit "kisses the gun," he accepts that if he should depart from the role of a Mafia hoodlum, his death will be by the same gun .. the CIA / Mossad ppl who co ordinate Alex' activities, do much the same.
Both men should provide a detailed timeline, for all their movements, in the hours leading up to the discovery of his body!
Then if he does just that, and they do in fact "suicide" him, or torture him to death more likely, since he is an insider .. surely his reward is with Jesus Christ!
1 blarfmar 2011-11-02
Oh the irony. If the government didn't have those powers to beegin with what would be the point in buying politicians?
1 redcardesign 2011-11-02
Love the we need to incite violence quote at 4:16. Clearly cut and pasted together.
0 Dragas 2011-11-02
I think you're angry at mark because he is somewhat of a conservative and he is angry at OWS because there are socialist who have pretty much taken over.
Let me ask you do you really think if most people knew what happend at bohemian grove people wouldnt be having major protest.
Besides major leaders have met at bohemian grove in private such as, george bush, newt gingrich, ronald regan, richard nixion ect.
Alex has admited he is wrong in the past about going crazy and shit like that. But my point was what if alex came out and said, sorry i got the wrong info about (insert topic) wont happen again.
The trolls would have there way with alex and make 20 documentaries exposing alex jones.