I have always been curious about the radiation detected by a 2005 helicopter survey of NYC by the Department of Energy. Large radiation spike was seen in the area of the Israeli Embassy... but that is pretty much all I have read about it. I have always been curious as to why it was a hotspot.

probably unrelated to the original topic... but could be.

Have you heard of the Samson Option?

Now how do you defend against that kind of psychopathy?

dayan makes the perfect unwitting villain

A second Holyhoax, except this time there will be no questions

HH

88

FTJ! BTA!

refernces?

ionizing radiation ? EM patterns?

Just do a Google search on something like "2005 department of energy NYC radiation" or "NYC radiation Israeli embassy" and you will find pretty much everything I have read about it. I've not read much detail about the type of radiation. Most of what I have read was very vague about it.

There would be so much 'Blow back', I wouldn't know where to start...

Ever see that scene in X-men: First class where they have all the mutants on that island and decide to kill them all in one fell swoop? This reminds me of that scene.

An attack on the US by Israel being blamed on Iran doesn't make any sense because it gives us the opportunity to do the same and finally be rid of the Israel problem the US faces by having to cater to their interests time and time again. If they nuke us and blame it on Iran, this puts the US in the uncomfortable position of having to attack Iran. Well, if they are going to do that, why wouldn't the US nuke Israel, blame Iran, then attack Iran? That way, Iran is gone, and so is Israel, and the US never has to be held by the balls again. It would be the perfect opportunity that they would probably take, given the chance.

Iran is innocent in all this. Don't even joke about bombing them.

Iran is more corrupt, no doubt about it

It would be pretty hard to get away with that.

They've gotten away with 9/11 so far....

"Dr. Sabrosky"? Who's he? Couldn't find anything about this guy's background. For all I know he could be me.

sadly, yes. but the science for the whole 9/11 thing wasn't exactly in the public domain, that's changed a huge deal since 9/11.

Its a pretty well known fact that uranium can be easily traced back to its point of origin, Chernobyl is a good testament to this when they found traces of uranium isotopes half way across the world, soon after Russia had no choice but to go public that Chernobyl went meltdown.

Also, it is known Iran has been trying to build nukes, but most officials agree that its not exactly an immediate threat for several years.

so how is Israel going to get ahold of Iranian nukes that don't currently exist? and how are they going to launch it from Iran without anyone noticing before hand, espically the Iranian government, that somethings fucked up?

the iranian government isn't stupid by any means, they are pretty extensive about documenting shit that could be used by another country to frame their ass. Oh, and Iran has a few allies that would side with them before they side with the US or Europe any day. One of them pretty much owns our entire economy at this point.

whatever is said in the media becomes the truth. it wouldn't matter if the uranium could be traced.

this would never be said in media, the knowledge is entirely too mainstream and well-known. if anything, the media wouldn't talk about it at all.

Also, it is known Iran has been trying to build nukes

No, that is not known, it is Zionist disinformation.

well if that's the case, then it goes with what i am saying anyways.

edit: but thanks for the correction if i am wrong.

Here's the thing, Iran's uranium signature is most likely unknown/unknowable, so any mystery nuclear devices of an unknown origin could conceivably be blamed on Iran. There's also the issue of Israel's nuclear ambiguity, they have undeclared stockpiles of weapons so there could very well be an unknown uranium signature somewhere in the mix. Personally I wouldn't expect to see this unless America was somehow in on it, I'm just putting the info out there.

I can go along with them WANTING to do this, but actually doing it? No, i don't think it will pan out.

Our alert authorities and efficient surveillance and defense agencies would never, NEVER let such a heinous act happen, and even if somehow it managed to be carried out, they would easily unmask the real culprits and act accordingly, instead of just blindly retaliating against a past enemy ¬_¬

I disagree. Not only would some in power allow it to happen, they would help plan it and then cover it up. All to gain even more power.

He was joking, but I have to say sarcasm doesn't seem to work very well online. I've seen sarcastic attempts at humor backfire so many times online, because not enough people could pick up on it.

I thought it was sarcasm until I saw the expression at the end. That makes me still think it's not.

I'm always sarcastic. And I always tell lies. –_~

Thanks for clearing that up.

Iran would never bomb the U.S..

Somethign like this already happened but not with nukes. It was called the Lavon Affair.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

In 1954, Israeli agents placed bombs in American and British properties in Egypt, and wanted to try to blame the Egyptians for the bombings in order to undermine Egypt's relations with the US and UK.

The Israeli agents were mostly caught when one of their bombs went off prematurely. Israel of course denounced the whole thing as an "antisemitic plot" but later fessed up. NOTHING WAS DONE to israel by the UK or the US - if Israel outright bombs Americans and Brits, nothing happens.

if Israel outright bombs Americans and Brits, nothing happens

USS Liberty

exactly And more recently, Rachel Corrie, and Furkan Dogan - two Americans killed by Israel, and nothing happened.

Suitcase nukes... it's possible.

I mean, how is it inconceivable that they got away with a BLATANT and OPEN ATTACK on the USS Liberty and wouldn't get away with a covert op to give America's hijacked government the excuse to finally attack Iran with the wholehearted blessing of the war-weary people?

I think the real question is why would any middle eastern country bring that type of heat on their own country? And the simple answer is 'they wouldn't.' They would gain nothing and lose everything. Israel on the other hand....

They should rename this subreddit from r/conspiracy to r/wildbaselessspeculation or r/pointlesshearsay.

Who did you hear it from? Some guy? Where is the evidence that this plan may be in the works? What report, released declassified document, leak, or general witness is there to this actually being a plan at all? If you're not asking these questions yourself you're not doing it right.

You are either an idiot, or your friend is an idiot, or you're both fucking plants to spread misinformation to willing idiots who are looking for another reason to think they're in absolutely no control of their own lives, thereby excusing their own failures and foibles. I leave it open. Maybe you're not an idiot, and you are just pathologically paranoid and you genuinely believe this is a possibility despite an obvious lack of any evidence of the possibility.

Shit like this makes everyone who reads this subreddit seem like they're all crazy, and it discredits everything associated with it by proxy. If you can't present evidence of any sort then don't fucking post it. It hurts the genuine discussions that need to happen that ARE based on some few facts that have been painstakingly gathered by people doing something constructive. Stop the conspiracy circlejerk. Downvote shit like this to hell.

EDIT I waited till it happened. I didn't think it would, but it did finally. Fuck this subreddit, I'm done. You fucking morons have proven to me that you'd rather hear the musings of a retard than actually prove any sort of real conspiracies. The fact that people have downvoted this more than upvoted without A FUCKING SHRED OF EVIDENCE TO A COUNTER ARGUMENT is proof that the majority of people here are as stupid as everyone actually thinks the community is. Fuck all of you. If you love this subreddit I'm talking to you. You love a place that spouts bullshit based on nothing at all. You love another mouthpiece of disinformation and subterfuge. I'm out. Fuck you.

I downvoted you because you came in here with vagrant insults, now you're shouting vulgarities.

Be a grown up and go fuck yourself if you cant handle my vernacular.

And you should be more civilized if you really want genuine discussion as you say.

Shit like this is what I love about this place. It's like watching five year-olds play soccer. They all just chase the ball no matter where it goes and it's hilarious to watch.

Hadn't thought of it like that.

I think you don't have a very good grasp on atomic chemistry.

and he's supposed to take your word for it?

based on what? the only thing he did is ask if it's likely for Israel to blame the U.S. and bomb Iran. he didn't even make a single claim.

i'll tell you, it seems like the people in your little "subreddit" have nothing better to do than harass us and try to make our credibility disappear. what's the deal with that?

Have you heard of the Samson Option?

Now how do you defend against that kind of psychopathy?

refernces?

ionizing radiation ? EM patterns?