NOPE THIS IS ALL LIES BY THE IRANIAN STATE PRESS

THE COUNTRY IS RUN BY EVIL LIZARD PEOPLE AND KHAMENEI IS A DALEK IN DISGUISE

THEY HAVE 8,000 NUKES AND ARE GOING TO KILL POOR ISRAEL AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO CROSS CONTINENTAL ASIA AND TEAM UP WITH KIM JONG-IL KIM JONG-UN AND PRODUCE THE SEQUEL TO PEARL HARBOR

HOOAH

Thank you for breaking it down. My sarcasm detector must be way off. Good looking out!

easily the hardest subreddit to detect sarcasm in

well that's not obvious.

right?

Yeah, in this post.

Pretty much how I feel about every post on this subreddit.

Iranian here. I posted this further down but I want more people to see it.

OP does not realize that Iran is NOT at all similar to its third world "peers, like saudi arabia, afghanistan, iraq, uzbekistan". Iran is a MUCH more advanced country with an extremely high standard of living compared to those countries (perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia and their massive amounts of wealth). The countries OP mentioned are literally shitholes. In many respects the standard of living in Iran in regards to material wealth and to it is much more like western countries. Really the only things missing from the country (which also happen to the most crucial) are freedom of speech, expression, assembly, and religion. Once those things are accounted for under a properly democratic government, Iran will fully be comparable with many western countries. Yes, there is great poverty, ridiculous inflation levels, and general instability in the country, but it is by NO MEANS comparable with Aghanistand, Iraq, or Uzbekistan. Tehran is the nose job capital of the WORLD for cryin' out loud! Iran is by no means the not-so-bad country OP is portraying it as.

Edit: Of course, there's no official evidence of the elections being rigged. Who would gather it? Ahmadinejad? But millions of people and the zeitgeist of the nation can't be wrong. The arrest of the (popular) opposition leaders on the night of the election is not evidence? The continued house arrest of the opposition leaders, even to this day is not evidence? They've built a goddamned wall around one of their houses for pete's sake! The people KNOW they've been played. No need for evidence when there's a national revolution brewing.

As a Westerner, let me just say that I hope the lunatics who are now running Israel and the United States do not bomb your country back into the stone age, as they want to do. In some ways, Iran is actually a shining light of freedom, because it is standing up to the United States and its nasty little master, Israel.

I'm the guy who posted the "evil lizard" thing. This is a very good post! I've spent most of my life living in Iran and I can attest to every point here being true.

Nice try, Ahmadinejad...

Iranian GDP per capita is under $12,000. Private consumption is a bit over a 3rd of GDP. You in no way approach a 'Western' standard of living in regards to material wealth, sorry

Those numbers from the CIA World Factbook don't tell you much, unless you're writing an elementary school report on Iran. Every young guy I know in Iran that drives a BMW, Mercedes, or at the very least a Toyota or Hyundai begs to differ. And so do their female counterparts, what with their nose jobs, boob jobs, and botox treatments.

I'm sure there are young guys in Iran riding Mercedes, and women who get boob jobs. Same as every country. What you've done is ignore the data (and denigrated it even; 'elementary school report lol') and put forth a bit of anecdotal evidence. Iran does well compared to lots of the Middle East. It is quite poor compared to a country like the UK, Australia, or Germany, though. It is 74th in the IMF rankings of per capita GDP (adjusted for PPP, that is spending power). And if it weren't for the oil exports, it would be much, much worse. Understand I'm not trying to slight Iran here.

Here's the difference: young guys in the UK, Australia, or Germany ride Mercedes, and the women in those countries get boob jobs. Not in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Uzbekibeki-beki-beki-stan-stan. No one in those countries drives Mercedes, let alone semi-functioning cars, and plastic surgery to them is about as foreign as a martian. My point is that Iran is more objectively comparable to western countries in terms of moral, cultural, and technological development than to those shit hole countries OP compared it to. In terms of those kinds of developments which OP was making a case on, IMF GDP rankings adjusted for parity are meaningless.

As I said, Iran does better than a lot of other countries in the Middle East. If you'd just said that in response to my first reply, then we'd all have understood each other. Comparing Iran to Afghanistan is like apples and oranges

For Iran, from a business perspective, war is bad for business, unless....

unless you're the one making war your business... I sadly agree :/

Who invited FOX news?

kim jong il is dead dude

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I think THE bank ... the Bank for International Settlements (aka the Rothschilds) is agnostic geo-politically. Iran has been assimilated into their economic borg. I believe there are only 3 (or 4) countries independant of their control - North Korea, Sudan, Cuba!?!?

Libra, Venezuela, Egypt.

Don't forget Sagittarius.

Proper chuckle of the night.

Are you just guessing? Do you think it is funny that half of the world's wealth is owned by one family? Here is a list of compliant, national banks for your personal research regarding the paper trail where your student loans will terminate.

I should have known to stay off reddit on a school holiday.

It was just a lighthearted joke.

TIL about the Bank for International Settlements (30 minutes of googling later). Whew, the shit just gets deeper. Thanks, internet.

Iceland? I mean they're democratically choosing to say FU to the banks. And they're a small, isolated country that everyone thinks is crazy. Doesn't that mean they can join the above list too?

proof?

He doesn't need proof. Nutballs are just like that.

Watch a documentary called "inside job" by Matt Damon ... it is mainstream enough to strike a nerve with your "show me" state, mid-western sensibilities. This documentary will illustrate the absolute corruption inside the US financial system. Also, it destroys the myth of apparent academic financial smarts - your prof has been bought and payed for to regurgitate the horse-shit you and I are taught and indoctrinated to in college.

• http://bit.ly/v9P1Lo

If and or when you are convinced, the monkeys are running the zoo, consider that the same thing is being done by the Rothschilds throughout the world.

• http://bit.ly/uIRWoT
• http://youtu.be/NzLIz27GqWs
• http://www.bis.org
• http://www.bis.org/cbanks.htm

It is Xmas and my intention is to spend time w/ my wife and kids, NOT convince a a kid home from school that he/ she is a victim of Western propaganda. You are ignorant to the fact that "we're #1" no longer applies - did it ever, really? Have a look at the rant by the journalist after George Carlin's video rant here ... http://bit.ly/v44NGX

I wont get into further debate due to the holidays, plus, there is no benefit to me in winning a debate. My young friend, calling me a nut does not change the fact that there is a big, red, white and blue fist being jammed up your all American, college educated ass.

Happy holidays, Merry Festivus, Peace.

Then why are you guys not flocking to these Jew-free havens?

There are loads of Jews in Iran. Try reading.

I wouldn't say "loads" and they also don't have the best living standards on the planet.

I'm unsure of what you mean. Can you explain?

North Korea, North Sudan, Cuba, if there are no greedy Joo bankers there then why are all the conspiratards not flocking to these countries?

That question is so stupid, I doubt anyone will provide a direct answer.

Let me ask you a question, mattman59, since you are not a "conspiratard". Perhaps you could reward us with a few tidbits of your wisdom to calm our nervous and suspicious demeanour about the equitable gentlemen in charge of the world's banking systems?

It sounds like you are OK with the current 1st world banking systems; you are confidant that the systems in place are working and everything is fine. Is that an accurate assessment of your mindset toward the financial sector?

about the equitable gentlemen in charge of the world's banking systems?

What specific parts of the banking industry are you talking about? Finance is not my strong suit but I did read The Ascent of Money so I have a little background.

It sounds like you are OK with the current 1st world banking systems; you are confidant that the systems in place are working and everything is fine.

What gave you that impression? The fact that I consider Cuba, North Korea and Sudan to be 3rd world shitholes run by dictators doesn't automatically mean I think America is the best thing since sliced bread, that is a false dichotomy.

What parts of the current economic system do you dislike the most? Things like Credit Default Swaps can be abused but at the same rate were created as legitimate hedges to help protect farmers during bad years.

Is that an accurate assessment of your mindset toward the financial sector?

Not in the least.

I don't mean to out my Internet nose where it doesn't belong, but I think the original point wasn't to say we should move to those countries and live under dictatorial rule. Instead it was to show how sad it is that the only countries not under the thumb of the banks are those shit-hole dictator-led countries. Sorry to jump in if it wasn't my place.

Which is of course massively ironic since those countries are actually controlled by dictators. As much as people like to piss on America, we have the government we have because of the people, our population is stupid and corrupt and so are those elected to represent us. Do you guys realize what would happen to one of your occupation protests in Syria or Libya? There would be no pepper spray, just 60mm mortars lobbed directly into your "terrorist" crowd. Don't forget that Gadaffi and Assad both labeled their grassroots opposition as terrorist, exactly what so many here accuse the US government of doing.

Thank you so much for that list. I have to show this to my Friends and family. Awesome.

Btw. you can also show them Ahmedinejad's Christmas Speech from 3 years ago.

I'm glad to see this list, but I think there is a pretty liberal sprinkling of kool-aid throughout it. Keep in mind you are citing resources making claims relating to a country with some of the most severe press restrictions in the world. http://en.rsf.org/report-iran,153.html. Where the line between fact and fiction actually lays is quite blurry. Claims of National Greatness are pretty much the oldest tricks in the book. While Iran is not nearly as scary as the US propaganda may have you believe (and war is completely unnecessary), Iran is still a society that brutally oppresses its LBGT community, has a terrible gas rationing program http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2007/06/gas-shortages-i.html has pretty serious inflation http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=ir&v=71 due to the printing of fiat currency really and really is not very nice to religious minorities http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL34021.pdf (discount the veracity it is after all state department). Hope this puts some of this in perspective for some, for the rest I'll enjoy the ride to the bottom.

Edit: had a terrible gas rationing program. Direct to consumer rationing and subsidies to producers appear to have been largely done away with in early 2011, substitute programs are unclear although according some sources it appears that subsidies for 'alternative technology' (the natural gas article from the original post) has been preferred since. Getting a bit bored I looked up the constitution http://www.iranonline.com/iran/iran-info/government/constitution.html check it out if you'd like, there is some interesting stuff that deals with property rights. While not choice but as a quick overview the Heritage foundation's economic freedom index has Iran pretty far down on the list. http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking. On the upside there is some pretty interesting stuff happening in Iran regarding Organ sales http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703481004574646233272990474.html poof no more waiting lines (excuse the old link). meh..

well, yes and no. I think I got a bit off topic, my central point is that Iran is a strange exception to the rule of third world tyrannies, in that although it's press is arguably the most restrictive in the world (DPRK and Eritrea are really the only two that give it a run for the money) and information coming out of and regarding Iran is pretty limited. I'm not sure trusting even some of the sources I cite is really all that worthwhile its a bit of a crap shoot. Regarding the economic underpinnings of Iran there is a pretty extensive rationing system that has resulted in some pretty rough outcomes (gas, 'healthcare' in a broad sense, and access to pretty much any durable goods is limited and connected to political status). The "west" sees what it is allowed to see (read Tehran). It maintains a strong regional presence that is actually justified, it is relatively more effluent, higher educated and posseses a nice valuable commodity (once entirely nationalized, now not quite as much essentially rusting from lack of capital (re) investment) Iran in a lot of ways is really a dressed up better marketed tyranny, lets all hope no-one pulls a trigger and the whole edifice has enough time to collapse from the inside.

Comparing Iran to Eritrea or DPRK shows your ignorance, so is your claim that there's extensive "rationing" - not even gas is rationed anymore. Lots of tourists travel to Iran and can wander around by themselves.

@Hassani1387. I'm glad you can flame. Try making a point instead of being a troll. Read AristotleJR post, the introduction of other third world countries as comps was not my first move, also look at the narrow claim for comparison on the basis of press freedom. FTW this is conspiracy thread.

I made my point pretty clear, thank you.

Heritage Foundation = far right wing NeoCon think tank.

Iran claims of national greatness = normal state propaganda

None of the sources cited are Iranian.

right, they are all western. Most sources regarding Eritrea the DPRK, Iraq, or Afghanistan do not originate in each respective country.

Iranian here. I completely agree with you. OP does not realize that Iran is NOT at all similar to its third world "peers, like saudi arabia, afghanistan, iraq, uzbekistan". Iran is a MUCH more advanced country with an extremely high standard of living compared to those countries (perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia and their massive amounts of wealth). The countries OP mentioned are literally shitholes. In many respects the standard of living in Iran in regards to material wealth and to it is much more like western countries. Really the only things missing from the country (which also happen to the most crucial) are freedom of speech, expression, assembly, and religion. Once those things are accounted for under a properly democratic government, Iran will fully be comparable with many western countries. Yes, there is great poverty, ridiculous inflation levels, and general instability in the country, but it is by NO MEANS comparable with Aghanistand, Iraq, or Uzbekistan. Tehran is the nose job capital of the WORLD for cryin' out loud!

Iran is by no means the not-so-bad country OP is portraying it as.

Edit: Of course, there's no official evidence of the elections being rigged. Who would gather it? Ahmadinejad? But millions of people and the zeitgeist of the nation can't be wrong. The arrest of the (popular) opposition leaders on the night of the election is not evidence? The continued house arrest of the opposition leaders, even to this day is not evidence? They've built a goddamned wall around one of their houses for pete's sake! The people KNOW they've been played. No need for evidence when there's a national revolution brewing.

Loud and clear.

It's not like teaching evolution, adapting a proper model of healthcare, focusing on green energy and efficiently using natural gases is something that'd endear you to a large portion of the neo-conservative population in the US. Honestly, going the other way around on those issues would probably be a good step as far as falling in line with US policy!

My biggest concern regarding Iran is issues like gender equality and LGBT rights, with the latter being especially tricky. However, both of these issues are currently progressing in Iran, and would definitely not be solved by anything the international community has to offer. And the fact that there even IS a gender/LGBT rights movement in Iran speaks tons of the relative political freedom they enjoy compared to other nations in the region, especially under Sharia law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran

Hole... Lee... fuck. I'm going to bring this up like crazy.

Hole... Lee... crap. I'm going to bring this up like crazy.

FTFY

Edit: If I have to explain the joke here, I have lost all faith in reddit.

I don't get it.

His name is expletive-deleted, so I deleted his expletive.

ಠ_ಠ

Yeah, that would be sweet if they didn't encourage that because they prefer it to open homosexuality. Also, trans people still get hella discriminated against.

Myth of "homosexuals forced to change gender" lie promoted by exiles

Who said anything about being forced to change gender? Homosexuals are badly treated in Iran. Trans people are badly treated in Iran. I haven't really said anything beyond that on the subject.

Holy shit, facts about Iran?! You conspiracy people and your 'facts'.

/s

Great list, although Iran is far from perfect it's a lot more advanced than Iraq, something most people don't realize. "Iran, Iraq, it's just one letter different, who cares!". That kind of stuff should be talked about a lot more, but of course it's harder to wage war against people if you know them well and are familiar with their culture. Then you realize they're human beings, like us.

That's fine, I don't think facts ever stood in the way of a good old fashioned invasion.

I would love to immigrate to Iran, then go on Fox News and tell them how nice it is

Just don't get caught being gay.

There's still a fine line between gays being persecuted and gays being fucking killed. You quite obviously cherry picked the facts in this post.

Alan Turing and many members of the LGBT community of his time basically suffered mental and social torture to the extent that suicide (being fucking killed) was the last option. I'm not saying that either is "better" but I will say that I would prefer to just be shot and have it over with were I in that situation.

Edit: just to be clear, I think both are equally horrible in their own ways and I'm not defending Iran's LGBT policies in any way.

/r/Canada would like to have a word with you.

Doesn't Iran have a large transgender population, as well?

This is their "answer" to their gay problem. All those gay men? Women trapped in men's bodies!

If you're gay you can't sleep with other men as a man, but if you ok gender reassignment then it's all good.

You can't get "caught" being gay in many southern states in the US either.

I'm gay and grew up in the south. I can say from personal experience, this dude is right. It's not a place you would feel comfortable letting your freak flag fly.

Any statistics on violence against gays in the south? Not trying to say you're wrong, I've just never looked for it myself and I'm on my phone now.

I live in Canada's bible belt (grew up in a major urban area). LGBT community is not a welcome component to society around here either. I think the hatred has more to do with the reading material than the geography.

I am kinda with you on that

They would probably remove the audio first, because there's a chance you could be sending codes to sleeper cells in america you know. then they would claim that you were kidnapped by the IRG, and you were to be jailed until the destruction of Israel. Then they would run a Newt Gingrich fluffer piece, gently cupping his balls while he shits into the anchorman's mouth. sorry if i'm a little on edge, i can't find any weed. :(

I have friends who have left Iran. They left because of the beatings. They kdinap people who oppose their government and beat them. Then they force them to admit to a bunch of crimes on public television. If a woman isn't dressed right, then she gets beaten by groups of Islamic extremeists who are conveniently not associated with the government but who still seem to have the power and authority to lock down a shopping mall and go from store to store beating women who aren't dressed right. A girl I went to high school with only escaped a beating because a shop owner was brave enough to hide her in a secret room.

But yeah, you should totally move there.

Go there as a jewish lesbian woman and then return and let us know how super awesome it is for you.

There would be no problems being Jewish, sorry.

Depend on how Zionist you are.

That's not stamped in your passport

You guys want to know what all the hubub with Iran is really about?

China.

We know that war with Iran would mean economic disaster. That's why Zbigniew Brzezinski said we should take out Israeli fighters if they try to cross Iraqi airspace on their way to bomb Iran. We don't want a war with Iran, we want to use Iran and other strategic places like Pakistan for one reason: to maintain dominance over China and Russia.

We know the wars really weren't about oil for the US. What they are really about is controlling the supply lines (and potential land pipelines) of natural resources OF OTHER COUNTRIES! China currently heavily relies on its water based shipping lanes (which is why we have a huge sigint presence in Taiwan (the Taiwan straight)) and because we have water dominance, they want to shift to land based supply. Just go look at a map. In the military industrial congression complex's eyes, it's not about the US economy able to rise to it's previous dominance, it's about making everyone else's economy fucking shitty as fuck in comparison.

Nope. ISRAEL. If the US and Iran start to get along, who needs Israel?

Well, with all sufficiently complex geopolitical situations, it's never as simple as one single actor or one motivation.

Personally, I've never understood why it is acceptable for Pakistan to have nuclear weapons, but not acceptable for Iran to pursue nuclear power development (which implies nuclear weapons development... quick quiz: name the ONE country that has nuclear power without developing nuclear weapons). Still, I don't recall Pakistan pulling the old "but we're only developing nuclear power for peaceful, power generation purposes.

name the ONE country that has nuclear power without developing nuclear weapon: Umm, lots. Brazil, Argentina, Netherlands, Japan, S. Korea...The US says that Iran's nuclear program COULD BE used to make nukes but there are 44 countries today that COULD make nukes in a hurry if they wanted too.

Japan, S. Korea

forgot Australia; but, these fall under the US nuclear umbrella (and similarly with the former soviet states).

Netherlands

NATO

Brazil, Argentina

Possibly the only correct answers (it was a bit of a trick question anyway).

According to the IAEA there are over 40 countries that can today make a bomb if they wanted to.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Canada doesn't have any nukes... we just have American ones on our soil

Japan is the only country to develop nuclear technology without weaponizing it. I imagine seeing the devastation caused by such technology firsthand will do that to a people.

Rubbish. Lots of countries have nuclear programs. Brazil, Argentina, Netherlands, Japan, S. Korea.etc. More coming. Over 300 new reactors being built around the world

Pretty sure Sweden doesn't weaponize it's nuclear technology either, and I bet there's more.

Good point, Sweden never even crossed my mind.

Sweden was once considered on the verge of making nukes.

The Persians (now Iran) were some of the most advanced and bad ass people back in the day.

Yes in the 1300s...

No, starting from the Elamite civilization, 3000 BC.

They still are. Arabs are like neanderthals in comparison, culturally speaking and just in terms of outlook and attitude. Persians rock.

Thank you for compiling this list, fantastic.

Merry Judaism-spawned-christianity rebadged-pagan-festival to you all.

this is really good man, have you considered reposting it to a more popular subreddit like politics? I don't know if anybody takes things on /r/conspiracy that seriously unfortunately.

He did - http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/np59v/iran_some_inconvenient_facts/

and a tiny tiny fraction of the US military budget

Every country only spends a tiny fraction of the budget the US spends on military.

Iran's is a fraction of even some of its neighbors, both in gross and per capita.

Too bad the Ayatollahs are still fucking scumbags.

Iran in many ways reminds me of Turkey, just less subservient to the United States and has oil. The sad thing is those are good enough reasons for us to spout bullshit and drum the war drums.

Yes, but they have oil that's not traded in dollars....

Awesome Post and if I might add:

Iran also has a population of over 30,000 proud and nationalist Jewish citizens who are an ancient part of Persian culture. As much as Israel tries to steal these people away from their ancient homeland, in recent years they've been telling Israel to shove it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA7yz2vciGk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Skmj8q0Wg

Iran also has a national "Schindler" Abdul Hossien Sardari, who saved thousands of Parisian Jews by issuing fake documents to send them to south America. Did his government admonish him? Hell no, they expected him to do it.

Somebody should make a movie about this guy.

I find it fascinating that Iran's state-run media created a TV show loosely based about him and have his character fall in love with a Jewish woman. That's not at all what I would have expected after being educated about Iran by watching Fox News.

"you won't know about from computer games" that's some funny shit man.

Why? In fact the only actual exposure most Americans have to Iran is through mass entertainment.

Well, we love us the hell out of shooting virtual slavic/arab/persia/towel wearing muslim terrorists...

Consider it an experiment in classical conditioning combined with the abject failure that is the American public education system.

Yeah, it's all volunteer, in the same way jail is and at the end of the day, do they really have a choice?

Sounds very similar to the Gaddafi's Libya.
And I'm sure NATO has identical plans for Iran.

Except that Iran has elections of presidents, parliaments, city councils...On average, 67% of Iranian voters turn out to vote for their president. And voting is not obligatory

Name the last war started by Iran.

do we get to count terrorist actions committed as a tacit act of foreign policy?

Only if we get to count the nun-raping Latin American death squads that the US supports

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykd-syzZ4ZY holocaust never happened TROLOLOLOL

Post this in r/worldnews or r/politics!!!

I often think this subreddit's premise is a joke (forgive me), but this is actually pretty awesome. It's starting to feel like 1984 sometimes.

Didn't the Iranian government kill and imprison lots of protesters?

He who rules the Banks, rules the World.

USA- "Hey guys look! An independent nation not weighted under the crushing burden of our fiat currency! And they aren't even accepting the generous offers from our bankers and corporations to corrupt the shit out of them on our own terms!"

NATO- "LETS KILL IT AND EAT IT"

Iran is a great country, and more people need to realize this. They also have extreme problems with the divisions of rich/poor and human rights. If you live on the north side of Tehran, life is good, and you may think you are living in a moderate, sane world. Move to the south part though, and you'll see a completely different world - generally a world that most westerners would find disturbing and dangerous

That. Was true only in the Shahs time

just saving this, thanks for the articles

we all want some 15 cent/gal gasoline, that's why the invasion begin soon

Thanks for this: but America needs an enemy...

Looking forward t visiting Iran and a friend there one day.

This is at least as much BS as people on the other side spout. More propaganda, designed to sway the ignorant public, just as much as those beating the war drums.

right. NEITHER EXISTS! IRAN IS NEITHER A SHITHOLE REPRESSION COOKER NOR IS IT A FREE UTOPIA FOR ALLLLLLL!!!!

The point is that Iran is like any other country. There's fucked up shit and there is good shit. People who go into "black and white" mode are the problem with this planet. You could take someone from Norway who has never seen the US on a trip there and take them to only the shittiest, more racist, poor, dangerous inner cities and towns, and they would think America is horrible. That's what we are made to think about Iran. It happened with Libya as well. Part of the justification for war is the undermining of their society in the public's eye.

It's divide and conquer. In this case, divide the public's perception of an entire nation and control the dialogue. How easy is that with this increasingly gullible population who doesn't travel outside the US?

Exactly.

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. You're dead on. You take the bull shit one side says about itself - you subtract the bullshit that the other side says and you're left with somewhere down the middle of both sides bullshit. It's probably just like everywhere else. I'm sure it has its good points, I'm sure it has its bad as well.

And we can have all that do once we accept a totalitarian state which purges non-believers.

You mean Saudi Arabia? The recipient of BILLIONS of dollars of US military equipment? Yeah, that.

How wonderful! Why don't you guys move there and escape our evil oppressive western society!

Yeah! 'MERIKA! LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT!

FAUX news much?

That's fine, I don't think facts ever stood in the way of a good old fashioned invasion.

Myth of "homosexuals forced to change gender" lie promoted by exiles