Trolls ruin online communities. They should be warned and then banned permanently.

tell that to mr. troll lover mod boi. i just posted this as well.

Interpersonal drama that distracts from the issues ruins communities.

Do you regret banning him? Or put another way, did you consult with another mod about how to proceed?

yes i consulted them, and came to a consensus with one other mod about this. ambiversive was not on that morning, so i was expecting to discuss it fully with all the mods and come to a full consensus before any decisions were finalized. i expected it to be a democracy but it turned out to be a monarchy.

You're are polluting the content of the subreddit with drama.

i thought it was all about free speech and shit?

With posts like this, it's like you are a child who walks into a meeting room and starts yelling "YALALA YALALA WHAT ARE YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT SRS STUFF LOL YALALALA YLALALA" and nobody can focus on the topics at hand. Well done, mister content polluting agent of chaos and distraction.

good job fucking up this sub and unbanning the most abusive user of all time, right next to Herkimer. Hell, why not just unban everybody, including the 12 or so people that were already on that list.

What was the message he was spamming by the way? "Go back to stormfront"? It was really over a hundered times? Jeez

"wonder why he can't talk about anything that doesn't involve jews? http://www.reddit.com/r/White_Pride/about/moderators"

and this: this guy is a moderator on a white pride subreddit. he's totally objective. http://www.reddit.com/r/White_Pride/about/moderators" "

since when are you a moderator? You're not on the mod list. Are you the asshole who keeps fucking with the CSS?

I agree this is just drama btw. Sorry.

lol, no. that is ambiversive. i was a mod for about 2 days before he demodded me, and he continues to keep fucking with the GUI and it get uglier by the minute.

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I like the concept - make everything but the content fade out to be less distracting.

The original execution backfired - the act of fading out as you moved your mouse on or off the content was in itself distracting.

The new version, which is more subtle, I like.

Please repost to r/drama. How is this anything but a distraction from the issues?

crackiswhackexcept is distracting people from the issues with his spamming.

Sure, fine, everyone has the ability to post shitty content to the subreddit. And everyone else has the ability to downvote it. That's the idea of community vote moderation.

Yes, but why should repetitive abuse posting be tolerated when it's the same thing over and over, not contributing reasoned views? There comes a point where the community is being subjected to the same abusive item over and over and it passes free speech.

Before you answer that question, you'd need to answer why the repetitive abuse posting he's responding to is tolerated. The same principles apply.

With an exception: It's hard to explain how posting that bumblingmumbling is a moderator on the White Pride subreddit is abusive, considering that it's true and bumblingmumbling is proud of it.

You're defending a troll stalking a moderator, RS. That's a bullshit proposition to start with. Because it's the holidays, I'll not pursue this further, though tempted.

You're defending a white power skinhead.

Bumblingmumbling posts endless claims that Jews are responsible for 9/11, the holocaust, and virtually everything bad that has ever happened in history. That's being a troll.

I'm defending someone who merely provides some context, that Bumblingmumbling is a proud moderator of the White Pride subreddit.

If some skinhead posts a hate message, users are entitled to post in response. If that skinhead keeps posting the same hate messages, users are entitled to keep posting the same responses. If the skinhead isn't spamming, those responding aren't spamming.

You Zionist motherfucker. I said I wasn't going to engage in this because it's a holiday. But you had to press a Zionist attack, you shit-sucking bastard. You want war, okay, you'll have war. From now on.

Stalking is not 'merely providing context', you lying son of a bitch. Here, it's harassment of Redditors using endless repetition of the same racist comment by crackiswhack. That's not socially valuable context, it is by definition stalking.

And you're defending the right of a troll to stalk Redditors based on his and your own right-wing values that say someone else is not entitled to have his own opinion? How pitifully hateful.

Aside from that you're also just another lying son of a bitch intent on defending neocon policy and Israel no matter how many people they kill, no matter what global shit they pull. Well, be careful what you sow, Roger. Because even trolls are vulnerable in so many ways. Will I need to expend energy through this year on you? Yes, I guess I will. I'm plenty fed up with your lies and distortions. There's a lot that can be done about those. So be it. There are a lot of people very tired of your endless "Your side lost WWII, get over it" loser retorts, your own taunts of 'Stormfront' when you have no suitable debate response, so just forget this white power horseshit of yours. You endlessly dole out exactly what you try to claim other people are guilty of, you sociopathic little asshole. You're guilty of the same racism you pin on others. Only in your case it's Israel Pride and taunts against those not sucking up to that apartheid state. So by your definitions we would justified in stalking you for being a Zionist Pride apartheid lover, you neocon prick.

You Zionist

You just don't get it. I'm not a Zionist. I'm not Jewish. I'm not Israeli. I'm just someone who is offended by neo-Nazi trolls posting hate messages, and closet Nazis like you who will defend their freedom of speech rights to the death, but erupt in fake sanctimonious outrage when someone dares exercise their own freedom of speech to criticize them in return.

I know you want to believe that the whole world is one big Jewish conspiracy against you. I know you desperately want to believe that anyone who dares disagree with you is part of that conspiracy. Frankly, I don't care. When I see someone posting their hate and lies, I and others are going to feel free to respond. If you can't handle people doing that, what are you doing in a public forum?

motherfucker. I said I wasn't going to engage in this because it's a holiday.

Then why did you engage? In the middle of a holiday you post that someone should be banned for responding to your White Power moderator buddy, and yet people shouldn't reply because it's a holiday? "I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas" doesn't mean what you think it means.

Here, it's harassment of Redditors using endless repetition of the same racist comment by crackiswhack.

Racist? He simply states that bumblingmumbling is a moderator of a White Pride subreddit. This is a true statement, and bumblingmumbling is proud of it!

You want war, okay, you'll have war. From now on.

Aside from that you're also just another lying son of a bitch intent on defending neocon policy and Israel no matter how many people they kill, no matter what global shit they pull. Well, be careful what you sow, Roger. Because even trolls are vulnerable in so many ways. Will I need to expend energy through this year on you? Yes, I guess I will. I'm plenty fed up with your lies and distortions. There's a lot that can be done about those. So be it. There are a lot of people very tired of your endless "Your side lost WWII, get over it" loser retorts, your own taunts of 'Stormfront' when you have no suitable debate response, so just forget this white power horseshit of yours. You endlessly dole out exactly what you try to claim other people are guilty of, you sociopathic little asshole. You're guilty of the same racism you pin on others. Only in your case it's Israel Pride and taunts against those not sucking up to that apartheid state. So by your definitions we would justified in stalking you for being a Zionist Pride apartheid lover, you neocon prick.

Should you ever wonder why people talk to you in the tone of voice of a condescending aunt to a retarded four-year-old, simply refer to what you wrote above.

I know you want to believe that the whole world is one big Jewish conspiracy against you.

You are a mentally ill troll. a provable distorter and a substantial liar, and sadly pitiable. You're recognizably a sociopath who defends other sociopaths. It's your type who lies and spreads hate, and you who defends a psycho stalker. Many people encountering crackiswhack see and read his nutcase behavior, but you defend him. Not only that, but you yourself taunt people with racist remarks. You fucking hypocrite.

I'm not Jewish. I'm not Israeli.

A careful misrepresentation, none of which refutes that you very visibly defend Israel, an apartheid fascist state. You defend neocon policies. You are a Zionist, an Israeli sympathizer and a racist prick by extension, motherfucker. You spread lies that protect an enemy of my country. and you run your own brand of hatred on Reddit. And before you can whine about bumblingmumbling, you'll have to stop telling people who disagree with you 'Your side lost WWII, get over it" and "Go back to Stormfront". That's racist. Ah, but you can't stand anyone criticizing Zionists, that's what you really object to about bumblingmumbling and why you defend a psycho stalker like crackiswhack. If you were any more transparent, you'd be a clear asshole instead of a common brown one.

Same claims, same response:

You just don't get it. I'm not a Zionist. I'm not Jewish. I'm not Israeli. I'm just someone who is offended by neo-Nazi trolls posting hate messages, and closet Nazis like you who will defend their freedom of speech rights to the death, but erupt in fake sanctimonious outrage when someone dares exercise their own freedom of speech to criticize them in return.

I know you want to believe that the whole world is one big Jewish conspiracy against you. I know you desperately want to believe that anyone who dares disagree with you is part of that conspiracy. Frankly, I don't care. When I see someone posting their hate and lies, I and others are going to feel free to respond. If you can't handle people doing that, what are you doing in a public forum?

I do get it. You're a lying son of a bitch who will say anything but underneath it you ARE a Zionist prick. You defend neocon policies. Don't play the pious lamb game, that's so obvious it's lame. You taunt people with 'Your side lost WWII" and "Stormwatch!" yet hypocritically claim you're offended when people post hate messages, What the fuck are your posts but that same thing. So don't get all pious, you sociopathic liar.

The demonstration that you're not lying would be to have a history of defending against all types of hate speech. But you only defend against people opposing Zionism. That's pretty selective for a freedom fighter whio isn't a Zionist, isn't it, Roger-the-liar.

As for "I know you want to believe that the whole world is one big Jewish conspiracy against you." what a silly typical Zionist anti-semitic claim. It's what you goons always use when you're caught out in lies and need to deflect things. Transparent as hell.

Again I say, you're defending a stalker using the claim that you have the right to do so because you're offended by the people he attacks. Who does he attack? Someone proud of being Causasian. You don't like that. Do you dislike people proud of being Israeli? No. Ah, well then. You have a hypocritical double-standard. We'll see how far that gets you this year.

Yes, but when it is to the point that people have flagged over a hundred comments, he obviously should have gotten a warning. He did, but he acted like a (foul-mouthed) child. Banning that user does not deserve de-modding. It was without cause. Crackiswhack was just spamming the same crap, pulling away from the real content and comments, and taking 9000sins' mod status away unjustly pulls us even further away, because despite the fact that I'd rather be reading actual content, I feel that this is unjust and I can't ignore it... so consider this a lurker's two cents.

Done.

What exactly motivates you? Are you sure that this is the most productive use of your time?

yeah, you kind of got me going here.

No, he's right you should probably get some fresh air.

tell that to mr. troll lover mod boi. i just posted this as well.

Interpersonal drama that distracts from the issues ruins communities.