Disturbing lack of Ron Paul on the front page today. Upvote if you want Ron Paul for president in 2012!
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17 rainbowz 2012-01-15
r/circlejerk?
5 [deleted] 2012-01-15
The best jerk.
-5 9000sins 2012-01-15
Lol. Too crazy in there for me.
5 burnyuppies 2012-01-15
I mean, it's our last best hope.
5 [deleted] 2012-01-15
Is this part of your campaign to become a mod, 9000sins?
0 9000sins 2012-01-15
Lol.
4 SlimFastForYou 2012-01-15
It's all about quality over quantity imo. Although it'd be nice to see Ron Paul succeed, I'm downvoting the submission because I think it's currently overrated and because I don't like being told that I should upvote this submission just because... besides I'm pretty sure everyone else in this subreddit knows about RP and doesn't plan to vote for anyone else.
-2 9000sins 2012-01-15
Nobody told you to do anything. This was merely my way of getting Ron Paul's name on the front page. I'm sorry if anyone finds this offensive, or thinks that it's just my way of trying to steal a bunch of pointless upvotes. I don't really get into the whole karma game, it really is pointless and just serves to boost the ego and activate your brain's reward pathway. Ron Paul should be on all media all the time, but since he's not I try to give him as much attention as possible online. Once again I'm sorry if this was offensive to you or anyone else, but it is only offensive when taken out of context which is my fault. I should have been clearer in the original post. Sorry.
3 mattman59 2012-01-15
Do you realize that you are the reason r/enoughpaulspam exists?
-1 9000sins 2012-01-15
Really? I think that is an outright fabrication. How long has that sub existed? I have only been using this user name for almost a year now and I'm pretty sure that sub has been around for longer than a year. Now if you would have said "you realize posts like this are why r/enoughpaulspam exists?" you would have been accurate and truthful and scathing at the same time. Instead you just framed me as a Paul spammer, which only in this one case could be considered true. I rarely post Ron Paul material, sorry.
2 mattman59 2012-01-15
No I mean people like you, those who worship at the alter of Paul and preach it to everyone, regardless of their intrest. Like a jehovas witness but centered around an elderly gynocologist who has been in DC longer than I have been alive.
0 9000sins 2012-01-15
Any better options for president? Nope. Do I think he is perfect? Nope. Do I think he has my country's best interests in mind? Yes I do. I think this because in all of his years of service he has never once violated his oath to support and protect the constitution. You are implying that anyone who supports Paul worships him as a god, but that is untrue. I believe there is a possibility that he could screw up bad just like everyone else. please stop telling me what my opinions are. You obviously have a hard time understanding why people like what he stands for.
0 mattman59 2012-01-15
That is the benefit of being objective, I have no horse in this race so I can sit back and point out what is wrong with ALL the candidates.
No, I am implying that people like you take your love for him to a religious level. You feel it is "too important" not to share the love of Paul with total strangers and you don't feel bad about making obvious spam posts in non-Paul subs. Again, people like you are the reason enoughpaulspam was created, to point out just how much like a religion you treat your obsession.
I could point directly to many of his policies that would "screw up" most Americans lives.
Statements like this are just more proof of your religious fervor. Insulting the questioner is a pretty common tactic for Paulites. Don't forget, you started the spam posting.
1 9000sins 2012-01-15
Lol. Okay. I can't dignify this conversation with any more responses. I personally don't think Paul will win, and even if he does there is only a slim chance he could fix any of our major problems. I don't really have a horse in the race either. I would like to see him win, but only because I desire to see real change in this country. Good change. It has nothing to do with him personally, just the real change he represents.
4 Jharkie 2012-01-15
This isn't related to this subreddit.
2 [deleted] 2012-01-15
The federal reserve system (conspiracy) is a staple diet of many researchers/theorists, for that reason I'd say he would be the closest thing to a candidate many here could choose. Of course , I guess the general consensus would be that if he did make it to the white house then it would be cos the elite wanted it.
-2 mattman59 2012-01-15
Funny how none of those "researchers" can explain how the American Federal Reserve system works on a day to day basis.
0 9000sins 2012-01-15
why don't you explain it then since we're all so goddamned stupid and misinformed?
1 mattman59 2012-01-15
Why would I waste my time, you are comfortable with the idea that the fed is some evil money priinting agency and boring facts probably won't change your view. The Khan academy has some great videos explaining how federal reserve banking works if you really are interested.
1 9000sins 2012-01-15
So you will waste your time coming here and insulting everyone for having a faulty understanding of how it works, but you refuse to waste your time explaining it? This is why people dislike you here, not because of differing opinions.
-1 mattman59 2012-01-15
If you look at my posting history almost every time I write a wall of text explaining things people here either ignore it or reply with "you have no idea what you are talking about". I'm not a banker but based on the reading I have done about financial history I think I could answer specific questions you have. I'm a young father and small businessman so forgive me for not spending more time educating you.
If you really want you can make a list of questions that I can try and answer but it would really benefit you greatly to watch the video over at the khan academy.
5 9000sins 2012-01-15
Okay I have some difficult questions for you. I already know the answers to these questions, so this is just me and you verifying what we know together and trying to reach a concensus.
Is the federal reserve a public entity or a privately owned bank?
Since it is a private company, what is the goal of the institution?
How do they make money doing what they do? the service provided by them could easily be done by a government body with public oversight.
How was the federal reserve established? Who was the big money behind the group?
Were there any wealthy or powerful Americans who were against the establishment of the federal reserve? What were their reasons? What became of those people?
These questions are the epicenter of the debate. If you can answer these questions in a reasonable way that somehow avoids the conclusion that they are an international banking cartel that has is hooks in American politics and uses America's prosperity to stuff their pockets I will be really impressed.
2 [deleted] 2012-01-15
.. and the troll without answers disappears to do some basic US history research.
1 9000sins 2012-01-15
It's only been 4 hours. Give him a little time. ;)
Edit: 18 hours now. He has been active today and still no answers. I win!
2 [deleted] 2012-01-15
Eh, that kid says the dumbest shit most of the time. Like they said, check their posting history. Evidently poor logic skills constantly being displayed
2 9000sins 2012-01-15
that's why people tell him he has no idea what he is talking about.
2 WcJessen 2012-01-15
Did you post in the wrong subreddit? I'm sure there are a lot of Ron Paul supporters here, but this isn't r/ronpaul.
0 9000sins 2012-01-15
There wouldn't be a lack of Ron paul posts on r/ronpaul, so I'm sure this submission would not fly there.
2 ManyWolvesNearby 2012-01-15
It is actually kind of nice to have a day's break from Ron Paul.
The discourse limitations in America are pathetic, and his inclusion in the Republican debates doesn't make sense to me, nor has it helped him to be lambasted and edited to high noon, appearing as a closet racist hillbilly to the vast majority of the public. In my opinion, he should be running as an independent, as his political leanings are far beyond the narrow spectrum of polity that the GOP envelops. He would be wise to hold on to his campaign funds and wait to run as an independent this summer and into the fall. Perhaps a war may have even broken out by then, which would in my op further strengthen the base of support for Paul's anti-imperialistic, anti-war stance.
We really ought to be rallying around an independent. As the internet has provided, rallying support around an individual is vastly more cheap and rapid a process than ever before.
Ron Paul holds some pretty amazing liberty-induced orgasmic views that resonate with me and a lot of young (& old!) people, but we shouldn't repeat history and overlook where he stands regarding serious issues in America like healthcare and affordable housing, which are the foremost concern of the average American family in my op.
1 [deleted] 2012-01-15
This needs more discussion at the moment. Here's your Ron Paul, though.
3 mattman59 2012-01-15
Do you realize that you are the reason r/enoughpaulspam exists?
0 mattman59 2012-01-15
That is the benefit of being objective, I have no horse in this race so I can sit back and point out what is wrong with ALL the candidates.
No, I am implying that people like you take your love for him to a religious level. You feel it is "too important" not to share the love of Paul with total strangers and you don't feel bad about making obvious spam posts in non-Paul subs. Again, people like you are the reason enoughpaulspam was created, to point out just how much like a religion you treat your obsession.
I could point directly to many of his policies that would "screw up" most Americans lives.
Statements like this are just more proof of your religious fervor. Insulting the questioner is a pretty common tactic for Paulites. Don't forget, you started the spam posting.