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There is life on this planet after all. Regardless of whether you or I ever meet, thank you for confirming that for me. I thought I was alone.

The next levels up are people who self-identify as serious and objective but are actually also pretty simple.

I guess its pretty tricky to tell if oneself is in the category. I mean much of human progress is thought to be related to standing on the shoulders of giants and so we naturally look for others for guidance and knowledge.

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You sir tell it like a boss! I want to have discussions with you about things. It really is a miraculous experience when you realize how stupid you are and actually how little thinking you actually do.

This is so interesting. Do you know where I can read more about this or have any videos that you recommend?

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How do you fight against the insane power of these border less tyrants?

What do you think of the fake ufo/black ops idea?

With all of the disinformation out there...do you think there are secrets hidden at bohemian grove?

To know, to will, to dare and to keep silent.

Britain is the power hub where all the banks and the Royals stay.

USA is a military tool, nothing more.

There's queen's land all over the world.

I'm pretty sure the royal family are descendants of Egyptian rulers.

I live in Britain. We run virtually nothing these days, I can assure you.

Back in the day we'd have slapped anyone down who got in our way, but that was a long time ago.

If you read the very top comment here you might be persuaded the concept of nation is somewhat illusory. That being said , in respect of slimbruddah's comment on britain, The city of london (square mile) seems pretty mysterious and a hub for financial control.

I'm only upvoting this post in hopes more people get to read your comment.

Damn. This. This.

The USA invaded Iraq and Afghanistan because Israel wanted them to. The Zionists both in the US itself and in Israel pull the strings, and Congress dances to their tune.

Yes? Then, could you please tell me what are the zionists in your opinion? And how did they get such power?

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tttttt0ttttt belives that the Jews of Europe are the "synagogue of Satan" spoken of in the book of Revelations and not Jews at all, but inferior Turkic Khazars (likely the descendant of Cain, which explain their inherent greedy and underhanded nature) who have suppressed all information of their true heritage to deceive the world. With that in mind, it's likely that he believes the Jews were given their power through a deal with Satan.

I'm not a big Satan guy. I leave that to the Fundies. I do believe in evil, however. Those who are manipulating the political processes of the United States to force America into needless wars are evil.

LOL @ "Satan". Who believes this tripe nowadays?

People do good and evil - we don't need some mysterious corrupting force or supernatural source of goodness to explain it. It's just human nature.

Here you go:

• http://www.vdare.com/articles/thinking-about-neoconservatism

• http://www.counterpunch.org/2004/02/28/neo-cons-israel-and-the-bush-administration/

Nope. I've got other things to do. Look it up.

Well for one, look at the real powers of influence in the US. Dual citizens with Israel, I'll let you continue that investigation.

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The US "Christian" has been indoctrinated by a bible which for the most part was invented by two people, and claims that what they call "national israel" is an essential part of "salvation". I'll leave it at that, but I think if you're in an investigative mood you could start with the origins of US "Christian's" beliefs.

Look into Evangelical designs on engineering the second coming. According to the Bible, the state of Israel is in existence at the time of the second coming and, as such, the evangelical population of the US has become unlikely allies with Zionists. Some are so heavily invested in seeing this idea come about that they are trying to engineer some of the preconditions for the second coming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heifer). That's a link to the article where Clyde Lott, a rancher who's teamed up with a Rabbi organization to try and engineer the red heifer described in the bible that is necessary for the sanctification of the "Third Temple" in Jerusalem.

Christian guilt for what christian Hitler did.

Poor jews, we must help them no matter the cost...remember the Holocaust???? Forever the victims.

... they HAVE been persecuted in every aspect possible throughout history. Largely because of people who are so indebted to this Zionist theory which doesn't hold up to anything.

So are you saying there is no logical reason throughout history for this persecution? Its an honest question as I have read some bits and pieces before about jews seeing themselves as the chosen people and other humans being animals in comparison. I believe it is written in the talmud.

Undoubtedly a certain subsection of the jewish people are genetically more intelligent than other ethnic groups. That might be a generalisation but Jew stephen pinker seems to agree with the premise and also notes that even accounting for this elevated IQ are disproportionately represented in the U.s in positions of power and influence.

I wonder if the persecution factor is actually a factor that helps with jewish success . A people who fear others and group together effectively acting in their own interest are much more likely to be more successful than the sum of their parts might suggest.

they HAVE been persecuted

And do you know why?

“The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers.” ~ Marcus Tullius Cicero. 106-43 BCE.

"Usury is the practice of lending money at excessive interest rates. This has for centuries caused great misery and poverty for Gentiles. It has brought strong condemnation of the Jews!" ~ Diodorus Siculus, fl. 1st century.

“The Jews should not be allowed to keep what they have obtained from others by usury; it were best that they were compelled to work so that they could earn their living instead of doing nothing but becoming avaricious.” ~ Thomas Aquinas, c.1225-1274.

“Jewish usurers bleed the poor to death and grow fat on their substance, and I who live on alms, who feed on the bread of the poor, shall I then be mute before outraged charity? Dogs bark to protect those who feed them, and I, who am fed by the poor, shall I see them robbed of what belongs to them and keep silent?” ~ Bernidino of Feltro, fl. 15th century. (E. Flornoy, Le Bienbeureux Bernardin the Feltre)

“But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a pernicious race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If they give a prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort twenty thousand from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep on guard against them.” ~ Martin Luther, 1483-1546.

“All the world suffers from the usury of the Jews, their monopolies and deceit. They have brought many unfortunate people into a state of poverty, especially the farmers, working class people and the very poor.” ~ Pope Clement VIII, 1536-1605.

“The Jews who have arrived would nearly all like to remain here, but learning that they (with their customary usury and deceitful trading with the Christians) were very repugnant to the inferior magistrates... that the deceitful race... not be allowed further to infect and trouble this new colony.” ~ Peter Stuyvesant, c.1612-1672, Director General of New Netherland. (Letter to the Amsterdam Chamber of the Dutch West India Company, from New Amsterdam, September 22, 1654.)

“Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to remain here without my written permission. I know of no other troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverished the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending and commit all deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as much as possible.” ~ Maria Theresa, 1717-1780, Queen of Hungary, Croatia & Bohemia; Archduchess of Austria. (1744).

“In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number... and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal... For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate... They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on... other people not of their race... If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty... If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.” ~ Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790. From the dairy of General Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina, 1787.

"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain." ~ Napoleon Bonaparte, 1769-1821, Referring to the Rothschilds' financing both sides of the England-France war.

“They are the great moneylenders and loan contractors of the world… The consequence is that the nations of the world are groaning under heavy systems of taxation and national debt. They have ever been the greatest enemies of freedom.” ~ Charles Wyndham Stanhope, 1809-1881, 7th Earl of Harrington (Speech in the House of Lords, July 12, 1858)

"I know in expressing with this frankness my ultimate opinion of the Jews, I expose myself to enormous danger. Many people share it, but very few dare to express it publicly, for the Jewish sect...constitutes today a veritable power in Europe. It reigns despotically in commerce, in the banks, and it has invaded three-quarters of German journalism, and a very considerable portion of the journalism of other countries. Woe, then, to him who has the clumsiness to displease it!" ~ Mikhail Bakunin, 1814-1876, Russian revolutionary. (Study of the German Jews, 1869)

Can someone institutionalize you? Please?

The main source for information about the world that is not available through one's own direct experience is the media. And in America the media is controlled largely by Jews. The information the media serves up is carefully filtered to comport well with Jewish ethno-politics.

Remember Lebanon?

And Palestine?

But I guess that's forgivable, because it was Christians and not Jews.

WTF?

I don't understand what point you're trying to make, because I cannot see anything in your comment that relates in any way to mine.

His point is trying to take the blame off Israel and put it on the US. Zionists always do this -- they try to mitigate the crimes of Israel by pointing out the failings of other countries, as if that has anything to do with Israel's crimes. It's misdirection.

You won't get anywhere with this conversation. He's already convinced you're a zionist and in on the conspiracy.

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I'm not a zionist. I'm a born and raised American.

Those two things are not inconsistent with each other.

Its like being in the Matrix, everyone is your enemy until they're unplugged.

I know, and I agree with you. However that guy is just nuts. Look at some of his other conversations.

I was just pointing out that your headline is incorrect.

But I'm perfectly happy to blame a good percentage of the problems in the world on the USA, don't you worry about that.

Because, first off, Israel is a front organization set up by the UN for political reasons.

Second, Israel, which ties in to my first point, is a mistake in itself. That land never belonged to any Jew. That said, this isn't about hating on Jews exactly, (though it's warranted as much as the next race goes - niggers are lazy and promote crime - Mexicans work for less than the politicized average american and are happy to do so - etc etc) this is about a much larger scheme.

The problem is, as my first point said, Israel is a front so, naturally, it's the one that gets the blame. The fact that Jews are associated with a farce was no mistake. And for that reason you can learn for yourself from any biblical scholar, or even a skin-head. Hell, read the Talmud, that'll tell you all you need to know.

Im going to get some popcorn......this should be a good thread. I don't get involved in these debates but i sure do like to lurk around and see who sits where around the table here at r/conspiracy, some strong opinions floating around this subreddit, especially when Israel and the USA are at the heart of the topic.

I recently say a documentary by an israel called 'defamation' I'd recommend it to anyone with any kind of interest in Israel. It follwed the reporter on his journey to seek out anti semitism in the Ue.S . he gained access to abe foxmann the chief of the ADL. Now make of this what you will but whether or not foxman was being dishonest with his remark, there was a point where foxman points out that he likes to play up his and the jewish lobby's influence in the U.S. If that is the case and if there is much of this kind of thing going on then people are going to be suspicous of israels influence.

Israel is undoubtedly a very resourceful country and by all accounts fought wars on multiple front without much help from the U.S some decades ago. Oil is an important consideration as is the petro dollar and in many peoples eyes Israel is in essence a U.S military base.

The thing is , it is seen as a pretty powerful institution and is part of the narrative of jewish influence , real or imaginary which feeds into the theories you speak of.

What the people on /r/conspiracy don't seem to understand is that it's neither "Israel", or "America" - it's that the same club of high financiers out of London and New York(yes, some of which are "Jewish" - but it sure as fuck is not the same kind of Judaism given to the ignorant masses at the Synagogues, as is the same with the "Protestant" nobility, and the "Catholic" nobility, it's best to blend in if you intend to lead a herd) control both and direct them to the same ends.

Those ends are NOT "zionism", zionism is one more pixel in a much larger picture of global dominance of the few over the many - it's really not that difficult to understand, and our resident jewbashers seem to be easily confused about this, having looked into and realized "hey, it's not racist, those zionists are evil!"; yes, that is true, but they aren't the end-all be-all, and if you looked into any other great power in the world you would realize the same is true about them.

The peasants in Israel are no higher than the peasants in China or the US as far as the captains of this ship(the ship of Earth) are concerned.

Because Zionists control the U.S. The top answer, however, is MUCH better said.

What's this, zionist soft trolling? Good luck with that; it's hardly a secret who runs the US anymore. LOL

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Was addressing the topic of the US being a tool of zionist Jewry, not whose tool zionist Jewry might be.

I'm sorry, but in the thread where OP asks for a reason to your opinion, you don't state that opinion again, but, provide reason.

He does not ask for a reason, though in this case it's really very self evident. I think maybe you are a new hire.

So maybe I am new here. Now, how do the zionists run the US?

They control the money supply, and by default every institution of consequence. Don't take my word for it; the case is constantly being made in this subreddit, if one cares to look.

Liek omgz Zionism.

I know, not super productive, but that's what came to my mind. This sub is absolutely full of people who think the jews are trying to take over the world.

Trying? They are pretty well advanced, actually, if you discount the Far East.

Maybe conspiracy theorists who blame israel/jews/zionists are like religous folk who believe things written down years ago without evidence. I think people call that freedom of religion. Some would say that is freedom to believe what you want which perhaps should apply in this case.

I don't hate Zionist, I hate Jews.. These people are responsible for the major religious dogmas. They admit themselves that they are a corrosive force to, border, ethnicities, social institutions, patriotism, among others.

Most Jews are not even religious. Many of the Jews who go to synagogue every Saturday are atheists. They go for the Jewish ethnic networking, not because they believe all the mumbo-jumbo about Abraham.

I'm sorry, but in the thread where OP asks for a reason to your opinion, you don't state that opinion again, but, provide reason.

Was addressing the topic of the US being a tool of zionist Jewry, not whose tool zionist Jewry might be.