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You don't have to trust me. I am just trying to help us all in the right direction. If you are against one world government, what is the alternative? What is supposed to protect us from corporations taking over and ruling with impunity? This is the true function of government, but corporations and billionaires have found how to make government say uncle. We can take the power back, but we all need to be on the same page. Patriotism is only foolish when it is blind patriotism. America is not what we see and hear every day from the media. We have been taken over from the inside by a group of very powerful and very evil men who seek to use our military and police state in order to subvert their enemies, all the while convincing us that this is America doing these things. The same is true of Israel and practically true of every aligned nation. So to be patriotic to the destructive elite is absolutely a fools game, but to be patriotic to the true spirit of what your government does right is not. Our government is the last protective layer we have against the tyranny of the elite. If we let it go out the window we can kiss our freedom goodbye. This is why I say we should be patriotic in the truest form. But I digress, if you still do not trust me. I only say these things because I feel it will lead us to victory. I have no ulterior motives.

america is a country stolen from the natives, with pathetic child poverty rates juxtaposed with global imperialism. has been from the beginning. "true" patriotism is pacifism- refusing to violate human dignity through violence against anyone.

we do need a world government, just not one run by bankers. we need a world government that is an assembly of delegates from regions which are assembled from delegates of cities which are governed by delegates from neighborhoods.

we need a ground-up global government. the bankers are going down, but nationalism is a disease too.

come to OWS, we'll figure it out together! :)

Very nice response. Let's hope humanity will allow this.

Exactly. We need Anarchy. Not chaos and anomie.

Anomie describes a lack of social norms; "normlessness".[1] It describes the breakdown of social bonds between an individual and their community ties, with fragmentation of social identity and rejection of self-regulatory values.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomie

i had never heard that word before, figured others hadn't either.

Thanks for that, also, I feel we should all be true globalists and realize we're all on this rock together. Nations are unescessary for a functioning society. We will never beat TPTB until a large enough people understand that. The heads of state, various secret societies, plutocrats and other so called globalists are not, they have fraudulently claimed the title globalist. We are the globalists and Iceland is but one example of a highly functioning society. While still having a faulty and corruptable democracy, their size makes it much more difficult for their leaders to stay aloof and certain important decisions are made by referendum.

that's why i want OWS to focus on election reform, even before citizens united. CU is only a symptom of our unresponsive electoral system.

if we untie our hands from behind our backs with instant runoff, referendums, etc., we can tackle CU and the next half dozen things in the time and effort it would take to fix CU alone without the benefit of election reform.

the plutocrats will always use their money in politics, whether it is a bribe or whatever. but their worst nightmare is to have ten thousand responsive candidates that know they will be held accountable to the electorate; candidates that know they need to do better than hiding behind the party bosses and just being the lesser of two evils. that is just too many people to bribe simultaneously. their lobbying system would fall apart.

Ordo ab chao.

For the newer members to this subreddit. This latin term means ORDER OUT OF CHAOS. "They" enjoy making you think that the idea to do WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO was your idea in the first place. For example, people out there think the RFID chip is super neat and a fun idea.

In the end, people will SCREAM and possibly beg for a new world order compared to the bloodshed they plan to unleash.

I personally will not and would rather die. But I am a dinosaur after all. It's you young people that will have to deal with it.

Great album. =)

It's so tiring to have to repeatedly explain that the reason I follow all this crap and try to make sense of it all is exactly BECAUSE I love my country. I love it enough that I'm pissed about what's happening to it.

sorry... I'm not feeling so great about the US these days.

Which was the point of this post.

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Speak for yourself ProudLikeCowz.

so, according to you, we should love our government in order to oppose the globalists?

Yes, but only the parts they hate like the constitution and human rights and freedom.

maybe you should back up a little and think about what a "government" actually is.

"Government is not reason, it is not eloquent; it is force.
Like fire; it is a dangerous servant and a fearsome master."
~ George Washington

And then he turned around and did the whiskey rebellion thing. But power corrupts absolutely, it isn't reserved to government.

the Whiskey Rebellion? that's not even an inch of it - he signed the charter for the First Bank of the United States.

he was one of the people we were fighting against. which is amazing, considering he was, what, commander of the colonist forces?

A Freemason above all, apparently. Nothing has changed.

yep, history's pretty fucked up.

This is exactly why New Ager's have a messed up perception of the world. The "one world, one love" is nothing more than propaganda to make people think in groups instead of individually.

that may be a little overly simplistic. a lot of the "one world"/"one love" stuff comes from people who are working for real social justice, and not the government's fake kind. especially in the hip-hop/reggae cultures...

the Democrat politicians try to appeal to that sensibility, and then push for tyrannical policies in its name. that's the only place where i'd draw a distinction there.

I was kind of referring to people like him.

I probably should have used better words to describe what I was trying to say. I'd probably say it's the one world religion type of people pushing for it.

i suppose i see what you're saying.

I hate everybody!

Lol. Banned.

(jk. =P)

The folks who really control the planet want to divide us and make us fight against each other in any way possible, just like in a prison. Prisoners are easier to control when they're busy fighting against each other.

It's done with our political system, pitting two parties against each other. It's done with racism, pitting ethnicities and nations of them against each other. It's done with religions, pitting fundamental beliefs against each other. It's even done with professional sports, to a more obvious degree.

All of this keeps us from banding together to figure out what's really going on, who's really running things, and how to wrestle back control from them.

Well when was the USA a just and moral society? Just ask the Native Americans and Hawaiians? Its been corrupt since Christopher Columbus stepped ashore. Bringing with it their form of tyrannical government to replace the one that existed.

Don't get me wrong I love the concept of the US Constitution. However this is a poor argument to use against those who want to implement a new government. Your asserting from one angle of a POV.

The government is an emulation of the American people. Corruption running rampant through them as well as reddit and even in this subreddit.

The owners want you to hate yourself, if you are not Jewish. Everything in the media is designed to cause Christians, especially white Christians, to hate themselves, their history and their heritage. This is the only reason whites hate themselves -- they've been brainwashed into it through decades of control by Jews of television, movies, and other mainstream media.

white christians have a proud history of colonial genocide and stifling scientific progress.

So do most groups of humans.

many large political groups do have dark histories, but can any of them really compare to the catholic church?

i don't think anyone should be ashamed of their race, but one can definitely not pay money to tax-exempt scammers. fuck religion.|

white people could also stand to be compassionate towards people whose ancestors were killed by our ancestors. can you imagine how it would feel to see a rich guy drive by, knowing that he got that way because his ancestors killed yours? brutal.

OP is trying to make this a race war, when what we need is a class war.

What we need is no war. Also how am I implying a race war? That is insanely ignorant and off base.

No war? Are you crazy? Even the bible tells us we need war! Cmon man let's stay in reality.

Jesus died for our firing pins.

sorry, i was referring to tttt0tttt.

maybe original replier? OR? idk.

also, i'm all for non-violence as long as the plutocrats are no longer in charge. if it is between violence and being put in paupers' camps, we all remember what happened in the warsaw ghetto. but yeah, non-violence all the way.

Why did I read this all in Alex Jones' voice?

SO we continue to be separate but kill each other for resources, or abide to a global government with no conflicts, shared resources and no debt??

I'm not for this nwo global government business but honestly, it's better then killing innocent people everyday (assuming we stop killing people once it happens, but then there is overpopulation...)

Yeah we're screwed.

A Freemason above all, apparently. Nothing has changed.