I'm sure you'd have called whatever else could have happened in 2012 a pretty neat coincidence too... still pretty cool we finally found the Higgs (maybe), regardless.

Maybe man, maybe. I don't have cable and need to re-sub the Netflix & VPN, so I'm entertaining myself.

ELI5: I never totally understood what's up with people freaking about 2012 anyway? Reading and analysis tells you even if it DID mean anything, it basically just announces a new era for Man. Why does that equal the Apocalypse?

Is that just fear instilled by the Church years ago?

Reading and analysis tells you

Most people don't do that, they just hear "omg, they say the world is going to end in 2012 because the Mayans said so, and the Mayans predicted the occurrences of regularly occurring astronomical phenomenon, therefore they're right."

Yeah we are around 10,000x better at predicting astronomical phenomenon than the mayans ever were.

It does NOT equal the apocalypse, that's what the media made it. Also, one thing that annoys me very much with the 2012 thing, with every news article about it some people come along and claim that "researchers found that de date was not correct, and that the correct date is 2212". There's just so much wrong with that statement, I don't know where to start complaining.

A new world order is going to come that we know of. Whether we are enlightened and a new gold era of humanity comes or a new dark tyrannical era is still to be seen.

Is it coincidence to the Mayan calendar, is it divine knowledge, doesn't even matter at the end of the day.

I think we both know where it's headed.

Yeah, all skepticism aside..

So if we predict something catastrophic is going to happen in 2013, every 'major' thing will also be a coincidence.

And 2014, 2015, etc.

I didn't predict anything. I just think the people who did would find this as enertaining and fascinating as I do.

They announced the discovery (creation?) of a new boson but did not claim it was the Higgs, only that it may be.

Also, dark matter hasn't been directly detected yet.

True, I took editorial liberties and over-simplified in the hopes of a light discussion on my theme of stuff "just kinda fitting together", with tinfoil headgear or without. Didn't wanna provoke a physics argument, the edit should help avoid that. Thanks

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If it had happened in 2013 would you correlate it with the fact that they found another mayan calendar that extends the supposed end of the world?

Nope, not a believer at all, actually. I just find this to be an interesting time. I'm not correlating or suggesting, I just find 2012 to be one of the more interesting years I've lived to date, and it's still going strong.

The only thing that "the" mayan calendar predicts is the end of an age. Like the end of the week. So because of that, yes, there will be other calendars predicting ends of other ages. Like the end of the month.

What is the probability that two major events will happen in a 365-day period..? SMH -_-

Dark matter has been confirmed before this year but we still don't know what it is. As for the Mayans, it doesn't matter what year they pick; human brains are hardwired to look for patterns - even the inconsequential ones.

Considering that the whole Mayan 2012 thing is ONE historian's interpretation of ONE Mayan calendar, I think its pretty silly people badger on about this at all.

The Higgs Boson is damn cool though, I agree.

What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls a butterfly.

We found them, yes, but how do we use them? If it took equipment the size of a small town to just find these illusive phenomena, what will it take to manipulate and use them? That's the next question to be asked.

Zombies seem way less far-fetched now. Sweet :)

When they prove that what they found is the source of gravity, then I'll believe it's the higgs.

Hate to break it to you, but by the Mayans' calendars themselves, 2012 on that schedule has already come and gone.

yeah, all skepticism aside, throwing out any critical thinking, discarding any notion of statistics, ignoring that every year has its headlines, sure...

Big coincidence indeed.

Actually what I am amazed about is simpler stuff.

Do you imagine the beginning of the millennium? the 2000?

Do you have an idea how much society has changed in just a decade?

The amount of information we absorbed? the amount of events we lived through?

I do, man.

The more advanced we get as a civilization, the quicker we'll advance. I remember seeing a presentation in seventh grade (which could be totally inacurate but it may have some truth in it) that said that in the 2050s, our technology should have become so advanced that it doubles every three days.

I'm not saying turn into an idiot, nor to start changing belief sets. I was just observing the amusing ways the world can appear to connect dots, whether illusory or otherwise. It's simply interesting and entertaining.

Forgive me for not losing MY joy for life and imagination when I personally learned to question the world. Is no longer being the life of the party and enjoying myself a requirement to post here? Lighten up, man. I upvoted you for common sense, but some of the folks here aren't so much for giggles...

No offense but I seriously can't wait until 2012 and the Olympics is over. I hope you guys fucking stop trying to predict shit after this. You sound really ridiculous.

Have a small downvote brigade, you jerkoff!

They did not find the Higgs Boson. They actually discovered the opposite, that the universe should not and does not exist. But think about what would happen if they spent 40 years and all that money only to tell you they confirmed something doesn't exist. So they keep it as a government secret, release some videos you can't figure out or understand, and try to figure out what the universe really is while people like you promote the opposite in public, making people believe the universe exists with your assumption of blinding trusting authority.

Those who just decide to believe the opposite of whatever the official stories are simply because its the opposite of what officials are saying are just as blind as those who do nothing but trust authority. Your beliefs are guided by the same authority, you're just applying your own faulty logic to it.

Learn it yourself, they didn't find the Higgs Boson and this post says they did. Whether it is toungue in cheek or not, anyone who alludes to the fact that these scientists proved the universe exists (which is what the discovery of the higgs boson is all about) is misleading you.

The reason all this $$$$$ is pouring into this project is to prove the universe is a real place, that kind of fact is and should be kind of important for intelligent beings to figure out.

Too bad they DID NOT find it, meaning the universe doesn't exist until someone can in fact find the higgs boson. But all these cover stories and toungue in cheek bs posts are providing cover for the money spent on finding out that we are all fake along with the fake universe around us. Why give that secret out? Just pretend they found something, and declare victory, just like the Iraq war.

8/10 would be trolled again.

IAM Gene Ray, AMA

anyone who alludes to the fact that these scientists proved the universe exists (which is what the discovery of the higgs boson is all about) is misleading you.

What in the hell are you talking about? Where did you get the idea that this is what the Higgs boson is about?

Either you're high or someone slipped something in my drink, because I can't follow that.

If you think I blindly trust in authority, the tongue-in-cheek nature of this thread completely escaped you.

To argue your 'point', wouldn't sheep blindly dismiss the whole shebang as nonsense? I'm not sure how fundamentalists would feel about their Creationist mythos being possibly called into question by ahem "God Particles"...

Just because you can't understand it doesn't mean that nobody else can. There are thousands of scientists from every major country at Cern, and an international community of particle physicists who have spent their entire adult lives studying this stuff. Do you think "they" can pull the wool over all of their eyes?

Plus...bath salts!

Nope, not a believer at all, actually. I just find this to be an interesting time. I'm not correlating or suggesting, I just find 2012 to be one of the more interesting years I've lived to date, and it's still going strong.

The only thing that "the" mayan calendar predicts is the end of an age. Like the end of the week. So because of that, yes, there will be other calendars predicting ends of other ages. Like the end of the month.