This might possibly be the most stupid idea i have ever read.

Well you want to attempt to invade government facility by force, which for miles around it is monitored so they will know that you are coming, which is also no doubt guarded by the military. So honestly i don't think that would be a good idea unless you want to get arrested or worse depending on how much force you want to use to get in there.

You are talking about bum rushing a military facility with a bunch of tin foil conspiracy nuts. You would never get within fifteen feet of the gate without being cuffed, detained, and hooded. You would be locked away, possibly charged with criminal trespass, they would throw in charges of terrorism since that is the latest McCarthyism.

It is a hilarious mental picture though, thanks for the post! xD

Agreed. Hence why I think it is a bad idea to try this.

It may work. 2012 is the year of revelation.

It would be in vain, a direct assault on a military compound without military strength backing you up, is akin to suicide.

On the other hand, getting enough U.S. Citizens to voice their concerns on military black budgets, state secrets, etc etc.

I don't think the government should be about keeping secrets, because it breeds distrust. If ALL governments took an open info approach, and worked with people, we would be in a whole new age of humanity, instead of stunted.

I feel like this timeline is all wrong. We aren't where we are supposed to be.

All they will do is label the group terrorist and create a bigger panic. It will give them the excuse they need. And we all suffer.

Gathering all those people to do that on one day would be near impossible, plus i'm sure the government would know it would happen before it does if that many people were going to do it. The news of something like that would reach the government pretty quickly.

... Live Mainstream media wouldn't show up, it's a taboo to televise anything that contradicts the official vetted stories they have been handed. A few live stream bloggers is about as good as you would get. Then there is the actual idea of people showing up to something like this, I some how doubt that 80 million americans believe in UFOs, maybe they believe in the mathmatical probability that there is other life in the universe, not specifically in UFOs. Again, this is a milatary facility, armed guards, surveilance, barbed wire fences, artillery, you name it. They don't do tours, they don't let the press in, they don't let people look through the fences.

Don't take too much offense to this, but where have you been living for the last 5 years? America is in so much more turmoil over the economy, the dollar is weak, banksters have been manipulating rates to make a huge amount of profits on nonexistant money, and you think people will organize and overthrow a military base for a chance at seeing a UFO, or something else of extraterrestrial origin?

If they shoot at you, it is because you are attacking a military compound.

Military compounds aren't like a library or other public buildings, where you can approach with a mob of people safely. Something like this, you had better bet that they will have sights lined up before you get within 100yards. A large group of people even in a motorcade convoy would be intimidating for soldiers to see approaching, all it would take would be a few agent provacateurs, and they would have enough cause to waste the entire group. It would be seen as an act of rebellion even without provacateurs.

... Because it is government funded doesn't mean that just because you pay taxes, you have a right to it. That is like saying because you pay taxes, you should get to fly a fighter jet.

It is Military. It is above civilian clearance. Area 51 probably doesn't hold anything alien anymore anyways, it has probably been relocated to a deep bunker, probably under the mountains in south dakota.

If aliens exist, and the government is holding out, it is obvious why. Because Aliens would prove most every religion wrong. The techs they could introduce would change the entire world, but currently, the only techs being released as viable, are the techs that corporations can make bank on.

While I admire your Gusto, I think you are taking this in a too direct approach.

No, it's great you have zeal, and drive. That is all I wanted to understand and know, that this wasn't just some tin foil helmet bull charge. Yes we are sentient, yes there is a lot that would change if those facts were revealed, and I think that is change the world needs. Not some fabricated alien invasion mind you, but genuine contact.

hundreds of thousands of people.

You're joking, right? You actually think that 1) Hundreds of thousands of people believe the same crazy shit you do, 2) they believe it strongly enough to risk their lives starting a war with the government, and 3) that you could organize them without being found out?

This is, quite literally, the dumbest thing I've ever read. Charles097 is right.

Well in any case, i honestly do not believe there is anything to hide except for the new technology that the military tests there and that is why it is secret, because it could compromise new military technology that they don't want getting out. I think there is nothing more because of the fact that so many people talk about and want to know more about Area 51 that it wouldn't be too smart to actually keep the most top secret information and testing there due to the fact that it would make a target for attacks.

No, they would have moved everything alien or topsecret to a more central location, more secretive, off the books kind of location.

they dont care how many people are in the group of invaders, they will kill everybody. if you think i'm being overly-dramatic, go ahead and prove me wrong.

Yeah, I'm sure invading a supposedly-top-secret government facility is basically the same as occupying public property with protesters. No big difference!

That's...pretty batshit stupid.

We could occupy Area 51.

575 square miles (1490 km^2). Good luck with that.

What do you honestly think there is an aliencraft that we are trying to replicate? Do you think there are aliens there? There is nothing there of that magnitude.

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Im sure the airforce is very frightened by a single Itallian man.

I doubt they have had anything interesting there for decades. Also they would just kill everyone.

It could be like Burning Man. Or end up with burning men.

They'll probably ask you to leave.

Not sure if this is an inside joke but I think they have a shoot on sight policy once you cross a certain boundary. Could be wrong but this is suicidal.

And it's not an inside joke, thats actually true. They have tiny pillboxes in the hills and such, so you wouldnt even know where the snipers are, and there is no photgraphy either. There are also warning fences that say "Do not stop here" "no photography" and "no tresspassing, shot on site" etc. Even if you clear the first fence, it gets a lot more serious further in.

In which case, OP should try this.

This idea is the same as your username. "Propostris".

Preposterous :

Adjective:
Contrary to reason or common sense; utterly absurd or ridiculous.

All it means is that proggR was making a joke at your expense.

propostris sound like proposterous , which is what (in the opinion of ProggR) your proposition is. Can't say I really disagree either.

Do you really think this is an idea with merit?

Well everyone else has done a pretty good job at listing the reasons why this is a silly idea but childish naivety seems to go a lot further than I remember so I'll retype it all here. There's no way you'd get "millions" or even thousands of people to join you. You'd likely get a dozen if you were lucky. And put simply, you'd all be arrested for trespassing before you made it anywhere near the complex. Resist at all and you'll get worse than a trespassing charge. You'd have a better chance at robbing a bank than you would at making it into Area 51, at least the former has been done before.

Here's something to try. Since you're so optimistic that you could rally hundreds of thousands of people and somehow overcome the military grade defenses I'm sure would be awaiting you, how about you start smaller. Say 100 people. Plan an event, any event, that pulls even 100 people and I'd be impressed. Now once you see how hard it is to get people to come to something normal, try imagining how much harder it is when you'd have to find people who don't care that they'd be ruining their lives by getting arrested, or worse, just to make it to the walls of some buildings that would require keys, cards and other security methods to enter. It's a horrible "plan" (if that's what you want to call it) and I second the above comment that it's possibly the worst "plan" I've ever heard.

That's not how things work. You pay for the services they provide, not the right to have access to everything they do. Just like when you go buy something at a store, you pay for the product/service, not the right to access all of their accounting, inventory, distributer lists, communications, etc.

I'm all for transparency, but you really have to listen to what you're suggesting. It's all around poorly thought out. Claiming its as simple as using the Internet and some marketing shows you don't know what you're talking about. It's like when people make a blog and think they'll get rich from ads because of "the Internet and some marketing". Things aren't that simple and if you think they are, you should spend some more time researching them until you realize they're not.

You are Italian not a citizen of the USA.

I am guessing you are about 16 amirite?

There is nothing there, why would the government keep top secret things in the place where most people think they are? and even if there were "secrets" located at area 51 there would be not way in hell that you would be able to get to them, no matter how many people you had. Your being a fucking moron.

You're grammar is good.

I can't join you bc I'm east coast but take lots of pics and post videos, I'm sure you'll have a great time!!!

I think that they probably have a lot more bullets than number of people that will actually show for this...

I don't see this ending well for anyone...

Nice try NSA PS: everyone in America is too fat and inundated with debt to take off work for a week Nd go to the desert to do this

Relevant! Forum manipulation article http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

There will always be the mystery.

have fun getting shot in the face, morons.

Watcha smokin i want some!

I am pretty sure their security fires at sight.

oh my god you are hilarious

lol there are bigger problems then what the american government is doing in area 51! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vla-ut8_vv4&feature=em-video_response_received

Preposterous :

Adjective:
Contrary to reason or common sense; utterly absurd or ridiculous.

Well everyone else has done a pretty good job at listing the reasons why this is a silly idea but childish naivety seems to go a lot further than I remember so I'll retype it all here. There's no way you'd get "millions" or even thousands of people to join you. You'd likely get a dozen if you were lucky. And put simply, you'd all be arrested for trespassing before you made it anywhere near the complex. Resist at all and you'll get worse than a trespassing charge. You'd have a better chance at robbing a bank than you would at making it into Area 51, at least the former has been done before.

Here's something to try. Since you're so optimistic that you could rally hundreds of thousands of people and somehow overcome the military grade defenses I'm sure would be awaiting you, how about you start smaller. Say 100 people. Plan an event, any event, that pulls even 100 people and I'd be impressed. Now once you see how hard it is to get people to come to something normal, try imagining how much harder it is when you'd have to find people who don't care that they'd be ruining their lives by getting arrested, or worse, just to make it to the walls of some buildings that would require keys, cards and other security methods to enter. It's a horrible "plan" (if that's what you want to call it) and I second the above comment that it's possibly the worst "plan" I've ever heard.

That's not how things work. You pay for the services they provide, not the right to have access to everything they do. Just like when you go buy something at a store, you pay for the product/service, not the right to access all of their accounting, inventory, distributer lists, communications, etc.

I'm all for transparency, but you really have to listen to what you're suggesting. It's all around poorly thought out. Claiming its as simple as using the Internet and some marketing shows you don't know what you're talking about. It's like when people make a blog and think they'll get rich from ads because of "the Internet and some marketing". Things aren't that simple and if you think they are, you should spend some more time researching them until you realize they're not.

Im sure the airforce is very frightened by a single Itallian man.