How do you know there is no Social media/networking account. I mean, I just looked up james holmes and there are many some without pictures.

If he is as described socially witdrawn shy etc he may not have one anyway. I'd imagine hed be likely to have a reddit acccount or two though possibly.

I don't know anything other than what the media is reporting. I do know that every gamer I've ever met has had some sort of social media account (usually FB).

But you are using the lack of one as part of your argument for some kind of manchurian candidate operation. Why would the abscence of a social media account cast doubt on the official story thus far anyway?.

Can you explain what you mean further , maybe I am missing or misunderstanding something.

I made absolutely no claims of any sort of Manchurian candidate operation. As someone who has worked in the intelligence community, I know to look at the details closely. Personally, the whole mind-control stuff sounds like bullshit to me. I would be more apt to think the guy was an insider who was framed as a patsy, or just a really fucking intelligent dumb guy. If I were to commit this crime, I would have done it a helluva lot more efficiently. I would have made pipe bombs for the mass of people. I would have chose a different theater.

Apologies for jumping to conclusions there. In this instance what would be the purpose of framing this guy?

Increased gun control maybe? Tell him, don't worry you're protected. He let's the police take him in without a fight. Watch to see if something happens to him. If he gets killed or disappears, I'd be more apt to believe it was a govt setup.

...Thus all of his body armor...?

plus that theatre is right next to the Aurora Mall, which has a constant police presence (at least when i used to visit there). And also this isn't the first time there has been a shooting or a shoot-out in that area. You bring up some good points and they're points i've been thinking of since yesterday. why does it all seem so convenient and simple for the police to wrap up? i guess also iv'e been bothered by this because i can't tell you how many times i've been to that theatre( i used to work in aurora and still have family that live there)

I think he wanted to be caught. He wanted the attention.

Lastly, how many 21+ gamers do you know, who do not have at least one social media account?

Just because you don' know one doesn't mean they don't exist.

I realize this, but its extremely rare and can't be overlooked or dismissed. Wanting that type of attention is literally a death warrant. Why is the media not considering the logistical factor...you guys need to ask the questions that they aren't, otherwise you wake up finding yourselves amongst the sheep.

It is kind of rare, but if a person has no friends and is pretty much asocial, you're basically not going to know they're there. There are thousands of people like that.

What logistical factor?

I live in Aurora. The police station is just down the street, not even a mile away. Why take so much planning but pick such a shitty location?

Maybe he was planning to kill a lot of cops too. It just didn't work out the way he planned. I read somewhere that his rifle jammed and he had to switch to his pistols sometime into the shooting. Maybe if it hadn't he would have turned it onto the first responders.

Seems illogical. The police station is so close, they swarmed the place in a few minutes. He would not of killed many cops. It makes no sense to rig your house to kill people and then tell them before they can get hurt. You guys are not thinking.

Seems illogical. The police station is so close, they swarmed the place in a few minutes. He would not of killed many cops.

So you're saying that many cops would have come quickly and he, for some reason, wouldn't have killed any of them. But maybe if the police station was further away he would have?

How is that illogical, yet your government false flag theory is?

He didn't kill any of them. The fact that he chose that theater shows stupidity, because logistically it's a terrible location in terms of escape...unless he had no intention of escaping. From a false flag point of view, he has little chance of escape, ensuring that he gets caught and becomes the patsy.

His rifle jammed, maybe that had something to do with it. Things didn't go his way and he gave up.

And, yea, maybe he didn;t want to escape.

None of this justifies that logistically the location was good. It wasn't. If he had no intention of being caught, it's a huge blunder; if he's working with a false flag group, he's the patsy.

I'm really sick of hearing "false-flag" everywhere this weekend. Olympics, Bulgaria, Israel, Aurora. 99/100 times it's not a false flag so stop reaching.

I'm out.

According to what Ive been reading-Holmes was just a shitty person. Complete megalomaniac and sociopath. I am sure he just wanted to have his name recorded in history. How he got into Med School I am unsure.. Also it is weird that he was working on a PhD in Med school... Thats the part of the story that strikes me. (MTV Claimed the med school/ PhD thing).. Also the comments about being a quiet shy/guy don't fly with direct statements by family saying he was a manipulative asshole who would even claim people abused him if he didn't get his way. His family was begging the state to take the worthless shit while he was under 18.

Bet he lied his way into school and was failing-hence the drop out and attack. Had to feed the ego.

Well, there's lots of illogical shit they are reporting. Why would you take the effort to rig your apartment, and then tell the police about it? Why would you be so methodical and chose such a shitty location, just down the street from the police station? Why would you not use explosives on the crowd? A a few pipe bombs would have killed many more people. It just so happens all of this occurs a mile away from a military base with top secret facilities. Also why would you just stand there and surrender? If he ends up dying while in custody, I'd be pretty confident he was a patsy.

people always overlook things, he could've done it better but what is better when it comes to killing innocent people? I think he told the authorities about the explosives after he was captured because he realized he was in over his head, and killing a bunch of officials with his death trap wouldn't have helped him too much. He just sounds selfish, confused and misguided.

Absolutely agree with the selfish point. His universe revolves around himself, everyone else is there to please him. At least-based on what his family has been saying. To reiterate-I think he was failing his grad school and decided that if he did this he would be famous and be able to say "I would have aced grad school if I hadn't done what I did" instead of admitting failure.

I think that your explanation is possible but less likely. This is not the behavior of a typical mass murder. We are dealing with someone with an IQ of probably 140+

I am dubious about that. Keep in mind the artificial heart was invented by someone with sub 100 IQ score. IQ score just indicates speed of conclusions combined with accuracy, has nothing to do with being methodical.

Edit: OR academic achievement.

I'm just saying he didn't behave like a typical mass murderer. Almost always ends in a form of suicide, self or by cop. He has to know he will get the death penalty.

Gotcha, well to note-Megalomaniacs think that no matter what, they will win.

probable, and nasty :<

He was an asshole before he moved to Aurora btw :P Aurora is also a cheaper subburb of Denver if I understand correctly, makes sense for students to setup shop there. As for the rest: Doesn't matter. If the objective is to be famous for all time then to be caught easily and go through a public trial is the way to go. Initially he was even trying to manipulate people by saying it happened cause he played violent video games. IMO the political parties are all using the event of a complete asshole (he isnt crazy, but he def is sociopathic) to further agendas.

Edit to add: Explosives would def bring a terrorism charge. I think this shithead wants to try and game the system and claim that he was abused so bad and broke under the stress of school in an effort to get off on the charges. He wants it public and messy. Also, given he seems to be a control freak-explosives would have been dangerous to employ in a closed area as he obviously wanted to be taken alive.

I live in Aurora. Rent varies from about 500-1000+ in Aurora.

That is pretty cheap :P http://www.rentvine.com/tools/averagerent/

Mind, I am using "Cheaper" as in inexpensive, not saying a ghetto by any stretch.

None of this justifies that logistically the location was good. It wasn't. If he had no intention of being caught, it's a huge blunder; if he's working with a false flag group, he's the patsy.