Let me just say how proud I am of people actually digging for the truth!!!!!!!!!

Me too. I was attacked violently yesterday for pointing out the facts and saying its 100% false flag operation, when I had all the facts researched and came to the conclusion it can only be staged as all the facts pointed to it and a bunch of idiots and/or pentagon propagandists attacked me as delusional and paranoid. Just like they attacked people who instantly after 9/11 knew it was a false and went public flag, they attacked them to try and discredit them and cause in-fighting between the conspiracy theorists.

One actually had a 6 day old account that got over 70+ up-votes, even though my article was popular and obviously the majority of people had done the research themselves and agreed it was a false flag operation. Another other one was a British citizen with history of depression because of physical appearance and knee jerk reactions to pretty much everything, just obvious uninformed European liberal type.

Here is my post. I explained in it what will be gained by this shooting and how it shifts the focus from other things that are happening and how all facts pointed to it being staged.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wxzq9/aurora_shooting_100_false_flag_new_witness_says/c5htlqt?context=3

That's because you're a pompous jackass and don't present any evidence while insulting the people who disagree with you.

I see you are a close minded ignoramus that even when presented with all the evidence you are still a piece of ignorant trash that likes to jerk around from time to time on the conspiracy subreddit.

I see you are a close minded ignoramus that even when presented with all the evidence you are still a piece of ignorant trash that likes to jerk around from time to time on the conspiracy subreddit.

Just like before, fuck you trash.

You do realize you just absolutely proved kkurbs' point, right??

What point is that? That I'm instantly insulted on my normal post without any arguments on kkurbs part, at which point I'm going to return the favor and insult him back?

It proves that kkurbs is a fucking stupid idiot and piece of trash, who goes on insulting people, presenting no points or facts on his own, just going around insulting people, simple as that.

And you are proving that you have no idea what you are talking about!

You could just ignore him/her. Intelligent people don't get into petty bickering and name-calling. You're discrediting yourself by acting like a child.

Upvote for use of ignoramus.

Aw did the nutjob get his feelings hurt?

Aw why don't you ask your whore stupid mom you piece of trash?

I'm genuinely curious

fuck you, fuck your mom and fuck your whole retarded family.

Eloquence is your strong suit isn't it?

Look I'm not starting the bullshit, I write perfectly decent posts and get insulted for it and you better believe I'm going to be going after anyone who starts crap with me and I'd fucking have the last word, including you buddy. So you better open your eyes as to who is eloquent and not and stop jumping into someone else's business with fucking jerk reactions asshole!

You write perfectly insane posts.

Sure moron. Go fuck yourself and your whole family excuse for human beings. Okay?

Piece of stupid moronic trash, fuck you you fucking idiot, piece of zombie puss!

You have a very diverse vocabulary and arsenal of insults.

Fuck you moron. Just go fuck yourself and fuck your stupid whore mom, you listen?

I'm sorry, your fuck density was a little low on that one. Try harder next time.

fuck you

That's still only a density of .5, let's aim for a higher ratio, I know you can do it, even if you need help from the lizard people.

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Have a wonderful day sweetheart!

I feel you and I would get along, or kill each other. you should demean people, dont swear at them, that just closes them off to the emotional damage you wish to accomplish .

Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is a false flag?

When I kill my own dog and blame you. Then I kill you.

a act perpetuated by the the government against its own people to carry out their agenda, the terrorist act is blamed on someone else

I would like to add the story of TDKR. I won't spoil it for those that haven't seen it but it's about a part of Gotham that gets isolated from the police and how the people start rioting and turning into animals. Showing how we can't even last a week without the state. After this horrible shooting in Aurora we will see the state asked to do more to protect us, meaning more laws that take away our rights.

You know, when I first heard about the shooting, my first thought was, "what if this was a false flag operation to spur a crackdown on surveillance in more public places/government violating 2nd amendment rights under the notion of public safety?"

weird

Same here, now the big discussion point will be whether citizens should be allowed to buy firearms, and even on the front page of a newspaper in my city (I live in Australia), the headline was along the lines of 'celebrities rally for gun control'.

Well, at least we're SAFE from the world of evil out there, right?

Our freedom is in their best interests, so of course!

Yes, naturally! You're not some conspiracy nut that believes otherwise, right?

I love how much symbolism all the Batman movies have in them. The first one shows us a creature who uses drugs. They were leaking it into our water line to create mass hysteria.

Also the drugs were used on all of their men who got caught to actually make them crazy.

Take control! Take control of your city...

Aired Oct 21st, 2011 :

Derren Brown - S01E01 - The Assassin

A live experiment where the subject is hypnotized, and without his knowledge programmed to open fire in a theater.

Experiment was sucessful (though the gun had blanks) and subject had no memory of the incident.

this may deserve its own post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJGdwI6QApw

I remember reading about Datura, which contains Scopolamine, the effects of this drug are very strong from minute amounts. These aren't experiments.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143584/Scopolamine-Powerful-drug-growing-forests-Colombia-ELIMINATES-free-will.html?ITO=socialnet-googleplus-dailymail

Walk outside, these plants grow everywhere

Wow. Just wow.

CNN was just discussing some strangeness when interviewing the school official that's responsible for the school Holmes went to.

Him dropping out of his school is important. It's highly unprecedented and the school didn't perform the interviews that it normally does when a student drops out. in his cat he didn't drop out, he quit, which makes it even more suspicious. The school official that the media interviewed got "highly defensive" (that's CNN's quote, not mine) when asked about why he wasn't processed upon quitting the program as an A student and even more defensive when asked about giving that information to the victims.

That's strange to me and should be looked at more closely. WHO is this official, and does he have an ties to "powers that be" who could benefit from a cover-up?

I was in a safety drill like the one at that hospital. Things like that are commonplace. Considering the location of the shooting I'm not surprised there are symbolic and coincidental connections to other events. I'm not sure exactly what it's supposed to imply though other than that we have a pretty death obsessed culture.

Also, that hospital training drill happened after the shooting.

OP - please read that training drill article you linked to. The real event happened at like 12:30am on Friday. And this hospital training, in which they incorporated the day's events, occurred during the day that same Friday. There's nothing spooky about that.

and they decided to do that drill on the spur of the moment? it was not planned in advanced? the fact that it happened on the same day but later in the day means that the planning time of the two events were not mutually exclusive, they coincided.

Edit: punctuation, clairity.

Those types of drills are planned weeks, months, and (if they're very large) years in advance. Can't throw something like that together in a day.

exactly my point. saying that the drill's similarities to the actual events can be dismissed because the drill happened during the same day, but hours after the shootings, is disingenuous at best.

You could be right. I've personally only been involved in trainings at mental health facilities - and they were conducted multiple times per month, and could easily have the details of their curriculum shifted in order to accommodate different details.

But yeah, this training sounds more substantial: 150 people (at once?), pretty detailed simulations (perhaps), etc.

I'm going to guess that a "crisis in a theatre" simulation is a pretty common theme in emergency worker trainings.

I would've cancelled the drill to be honest with you. Why scare people more than they've already been scared?

Because the average hospital worker is not scared by stuff like this and indeed needs to face this sort of stuff to be able to do their job.

dont really but into conspiracy theories anymore, but the boy does look drugged, but thats probably coz he is, i mean he shot up a movie theatre so is probably on anti-psychotics, bit scary tho i have to admit, keeping him compliant and all that.

Seems to me someone should not be considered fit to stand trial if they've been drugged.

BINGO

i tend to agree, if the person is so psychotic they cant function off medication then clearly they arent culpalble for their actions. This guy seemed to be functioning well enough to stockpile weapons and ammo in the weeks before the incident so seems lie he knew what he was doing so if he has now been medicated (i read he refused medication and isnt cooperating with the police) to be kept compliant something is very amiss. I tend to side with others that say his behaviour is probably down to sleep deprivation and/or a psychotic break then some sort of zombie pill.

It wasn't a trial, it was an arraignment.

I could be wrong but I think the arraignment is next Monday.

He hasn't even been charged yet. He's being held on suspicion of 1st degree murder.

I stand corrected. Still, an arraignment is fairly important given that a guilty/not guilty plea is made.

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Judging by how dilated his eyes were, he's under the influence of something. Whether or not he was aware of where he was and what was going on is a different story.

EDIT: here's a link where you can see the dilation.

i disagree. the use of seroquel (an anti-psychotic) is used in jails and prisons with frequency. the main side effect is sleepiness. after shooting 71 people at random, i'm sure the jail's doctors administered some sort of anti-psychotic. they make any one sleepy.

The guy also thinks he is The Joker. Worst part is it seems he is trying to imitate the psyche of Heath Ledgers Joker too by being insane. He booby trapped his apartment and if you look at the messages the Joker gives in TDK, this kid seems like he is trying to live out some sick fantasy. You only shoot up a theatre if you want insanity and chaos. He full on knew what he was doing beforehand, even if he did it in a crazy state of mind or not.

I instantly thought the same thing when I saw the courtroom footage.

He seems to be doing what our local crazy samurai murderer here did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonie_Dixon

http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=antony%20dixon&rls=com.microsoft:*&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

i think it'd be next to impossible to keep up an act like that, but if the difference between life in prison and the death penalty I suppose he would try it.

Question: there has been speculation over no witness or surviving victim actually seeing the guy's face during the attack due to the helmet/gasmask. Is there evidence of this?

What I'm finding odd is the insistence of media and some authorities not to use the name of the guy. Such a difference over all the bad men and boogeymen attacking all over the world, whose faces are instantly publicized and their names blared. Guess has to do to the fact the guy is white, and that also has stopped all media from uttering the T word...

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There have been many people interviewed that were there. If you say nobody saw him then you clearly have not been following the story. He bought a ticket and sat near the front of the theater. 10 minutes in, he was witnessed picking up his phone and walking out the emergency exit as if he had a call. Even the guy that watched him said he thought that was really weird. Holmes was parked outside the exit door. He propped the door enough to not be visible but allow him back in. He geared up and walked back inside. Several people saw him undoubtedly.

Did you even read me comment?

Nobody was able to identify who the shooter was, besides the police. The theater was full of chemical agent, the shooter had complete facial and body concealment, it was in a DARKENED MOVIE THEATER and the movie goers were fleeing in in a state of pandemonium. Imagine the effect on their vision from the muzzle blasts, as well.

There are NO witnesses who were able to identify the shooter; only the individual who opened the door. Assuming Holmes is the shooter at this point in time is a leap of judgement, perhaps greater than mine, as I am not accusing any specific individual of a crime.

I am stating known facts: Holmes opened the exit door and exited the theater, afterwards an individual entered said door and initiated the attack.

You are proposing conjecture: Holmes opened the door and exited the theater (this part is accurate, according to witness statements), he then went to his vehicle and changed into full riot gear (this part is conjecture), before reentering the theater and initiating the attack (this is also conjecture).

Cheers.

You're right then. It is conjecture. And the officer that arrested him with his shit on is also full of conjecture. I guess since all you have to do is wear a mask, you can say someone stole your car, planted your fingerprints on everything, and say you didn't know you could walk out of the movie theater emergency exit to take a call, then you could get away with everything. Someone could put a mask on and shoot up your house and if you lived and I was arrested with the guns in my hand outside your house, I could walk because YOU didn't see my face during the incident. Good to know.

Holmes wasn't wearing any "gear" when he was found.

You should really get your facts straight before you allow yourself to become indignant and start fabricating irrelevant stories; it makes you appear asinine.

Guilty until proven innocent, eh?

Cheers.

Source?

Police radio and photographs of the crime scene.

Actually he is not being charged with domestic terrorism.

Can someone please explain to me what the motive behind this could possibly be, since I can't begin to fathom what it could be.

More dhs presence at public request.

One could theorize to demonize our 2nd Amendment rights in anticipation of a UN treaty regulating firearms, expand the security state, take attention off Arpaio's findings, and divert news away from LIBOR.

excellent spread. i'll take a bit of each, thanks.

What is that little symbol next to your name? JW

They create a problem: Theater gets shot up, innocent people die

The people cry out: We need more gun laws etc etc

They provide their solution: martial law type laws

same shit happened on 9-11 Its obvious what the government is doing wake up.

Problem > Reaction > Solution, formula works every time to allow governments to control their sheeple.

Yes! that's exactly it, cause and effect. It's such a blatant tactic that it's hard to believe people STILL fall for it.

The shooting occurred the first day of Ramadan and right after high-ranking Syrian officials have been killed. Could be retaliation from Hezbollah or Syria. The government would then make a crazy lone gunman cover-story. The government may also leave odd bits and ends for conspiracy theorists to build theories on, filling the Internet with wild theories. This would completely drown, with media complicity, any message that may link the attack to a foreign entity.

what about the gas mask? don't forget to look into why it's relevant where it was found.

what about the initial reports that cops found him wearing all his gear and "shooting towards his car parked behind the building", when it is clearly obvious that the gear had been stripped rapidly just outside the theater door? there are photos of his assault rifle laying right beside the door.

also, what about the security cam footage?

I've seen so much propaganda and cover-up bullshit surrounding this thing, so far, and it is pathetically obvious that the stooges that haunt reddit are crawling all over this. People are learning who you are, and how you guys operate. Nuff said.

Trolling web forums and message boards is very common. I can't link right now because I'm on my mobile but in this subreddit there is a recent article how it works. One of ways is burying useful information will mass amounts of bullshit.

I'm suggesting that there is a cover up underway, which includes a politicizing of these fake facts that is painfully obvious, and a lot of divisive rhetoric as hidden hired stooges and their clueless cronies undermine much needed journalistic inquiry by attempting to associate it with half-brain conspiracy theories or right-wing hysteria. There are legitimate questions, few of which are even being asked. This conversation has been infiltrated, and reliable reportage has been compromised. Keep digging!

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Any surveillance video/other visual evidence will be saved for the criminal trial. People on this subreddit will always not believe the "official" story regardless of what they say so why fuck up the prosecution if regardless of what they show you will not believe it.

Did anyone bother to make that Roll Call public PRIOR to the shooting? To me it seemed to pop up all over the net the day after the shooting. Surely someone would have released it before the event ("Hey look at this this, maybe they are going to install TSA in theatres.." type of thing).

This personally leads me to beleive that it is a fake.

From here...

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

Question: How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?

If you start to look at the really big picture here, the obvious question arises: How does an unemployed medical student afford all the complex weapons gear, bomb-making gear, "flammable" booby trap devices, ammunition, multiple magazines, bullet-proof vest, groin protection, ballistic helmet, SWAT uniform and all the rest of it?

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html#ixzz21TlnP5jl

The words "learn more" and "naturalnews.com" do not go together very well.

Question: How does an unemployed medical student afford $20,000 in weapons gear?

Student loans, credit cards, parents money, etc. This has been covered.

Plus the fact that there's no indication he had $20k worth of gear. His "armor" was a few hundred dollars worth of gear, let's say it's a thousand, those shin guards can be expensive; 2-3k for the guns; another 1k for ammo and his extended mags. Now, I don't know how much the gas canisters are, but I doubt they're 15k.

Naturalnews were the first to post the 20k figure.

I actually heard Rob Dew mention that figure on coast to coast am on Saturday, but it's an absurd number. i haven't heard a single credible source list his true loadout.

I believe he was a phd student at the medical school but regardless, the federal government guarantees money for tuition and room/board up to a universities cost of attendance. This COA number is inflated a bit so students have wiggle room and the schools, and many banks, offer loans on top the COA. I think COA ranges from 60-75k per year at most programs. So, in short, likely the Feds supplied all that cash. Not knowingly but I find some dark humor in that.

Edit: I'm not sure what the phd structure is like but for health students (dentists, docs, etc,) that is how the layout works. My non health phd friends get 30k or so from the school and free tuition if I recall.

Wow. PhD students get a lot more money than undergrads.

Sort of. it's all based on cost of attendance and undergrad is Cheaper. They even pay less than half the interest grad students do. But this isnt the place to debate higher education costs

It is if you're claim is that he's getting $10k extra which he can afford to just blow on fancy armor and stuff... Though I don't currently know any grad students, the few I have known had to be on a fairly tight budget and my peers as undergrads at a nearby University certainly don't get anywhere close to an extra $10k over the summer.

Holmes was a neuroscience graduate student at the University of Colorado Denver Anschutz Medical Campus. All his tuition was paid and he received a $26,000 annual stipend.

Learn more: http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/279255/222/What-bizarre-court-behavior-may-reveal

There's no way Lil Wayne's video is anything more than coincidence. He shot more people than 12, and if 10 more of them had died, nobody would be even making the connection. He was shooting into a huge crowd, how do you think he would be able to do that still keep the number to 12? Not relevant, neither is the comic reference.

This post is largely a load of fucking bologna that isn't anywhere close to dealing with the real issue. Thanks.

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Read what I said. How could he have shot 70 people and only killed 12 of them? He isn't a trained soldier (which would make it only slightly more plausible) so he's not some wicked sharpshooter. People were running and moving anyways, it was pure chance only 12 of the people that got shot died. Everyone that got hit and lived is lucky they aren't amongst the dead because it could easily have gone another way.

A rapper talking about semi-auto weapons in a song? STOP THE PRESSES! That never happens! What about all the other weird shit that happens in the video and lyrics in the song that have nothing to do with batman or a theater?

If you REALLY think they put out the lil wayne video like it is some sort of precursor to the coming massacre, you need to loosen the tin foil hat and go for a fucking walk.

so you think little wayne has been working with the government to pull off a massacre?

not everything is a conspiracy, some things are just coincidences

I don't know anything, but it's obvious that most of the original post has nothing to do with what happened.

Jessica Ghawi:

"In June, she narrowly escaped a mass shooting at a Toronto shopping mall."

Look into this. I find this to be very telling.

If anybody believes in the Illuminati, new world order or anything close or similar to that there has been many examples how they have a hand in everything including the music industry and media. Lil wayne, jay z, and kanye west have all had weird music videos seeming to have multiple and odd secret messages or references. Now my personal opinion is I have no idea what to believe. However, if you look into some simple symbolism and or signs of old societies and underlining groups throughout history they are all embedded in main stream media. Could it all just be one huge coincidence of course but it does raise questions. Also the two victims in military intelligence raises a huge red flag for me, having a father whom is in terrorist intelligence I know he knows a lot of stuff... A LOT!. therefore acquiring information from previous history if someone knows something of great importance that they shouldn't more or likely they will be taken out. A group or single person could do this and has been done in history. But I don't believe this to be the case because the shooter of the theater had a semi-automatic rifle which jammed during the shooting, any trained personal could easily fix a jam with in a couple seconds and return to firing. Sorry for rambling just providing some info to maybe raise more questions and theories. Playing the devils advocate if you will.

So you're suggesting that Jay-Z , Lil Wayne, and Kanye have some Illuminati connections and are giving us subtle hints that the shit is real? As if some ultra secret, shadow government-esque organization (if it were even real) would let that kind of thing take place?

...are you fucking kidding me?

...are you fucking kidding me?

Nice argument.

I'm not making an argument, but thanks.

You got it.

trained personal could easily fix a jam with in a couple seconds and return to firing

He could just be the middle-man. Nothing more, nothing less. Going through a hard time in his life, he was an easy target for whatever they were planning.

Also, mind giving some examples for

Lil wayne, jay z, and kanye west have all had weird music videos seeming

besides the video in the OP-post?

Jay-Z always shouts "Da Rock", which is for Rocafella, his label. While doing this they put up a pyramid symbol with their hands and sometimes look through it.

here

here

lil wayne

his newest recruit

EDIT I know you asked for videos, but these will are just the tip of the ice berg, ill look for some videos for you since op hasnt yet.

Those 4 performers all have one thing in common. No real talent.

I don't imagine they even need any, considering all of their "music" is made by someone else. They're just paper dolls who sometimes shout obscenities at microphones.

Yep. If they knew (and they probably do anyway) that they are simply tools used to get into the pockets of their fans.

If by "music" you mean just the beats, then yes. Jay-Z is an extremely talented lyricist.

He's putting up a Diamond, not a triangle...

Thats what they say it is, its not its a triangle and he looks through it on an album cover

http://imgur.com/u449G

This goes deeper than I thought...

Hahaha i miss those days ddp!

It's a diamond. A quick google search will tell you more about it. Jay-Z is not part of the fucking illuminati.

Yea totally a diamond

Yes, its still a diamond. Just cuz you found a picture of him looking through it doesn't make it not a diamond. People use that effect with smoke rings and all kinds of stuff because it makes for a cool picture. Jay-z is not part of a fucking conspiracy.

I'd love to discuss the conspiracy of JayZ being Illuminati.

I've asked this before, no one's given me a rational response. If you believe JayZ is a Illuminatis or puppet of, what exactly is he brain washing us to do or not do?

How is ppl throwing the diamond up any different than the Florida Gators fans doing that thing they do at their football games?

He's brainwashing you to believe that he's a talented rapper.

Exactly, no substance, just an opinion backed up by nothing resembling fact.

Anyone who claims Jay is talentless clearly has no clue what they're talking about and should stfu.

He sells their religion of money, makes selling crack cool and pushes materialism

Just cause i don't agree doesn't mean i don't respect your answer.

I'd agree with 2 out of 3 of these. He doesn't make selling crack cool, i think he tells his tales of it in an artful way, but the history of media is full of examples of interesting or stylized things that normal people wouldn't dream of doing. For example, it's cool how they rob banks in Point Break and Inside Man, but i wouldn't do it. People would sell drugs and rob banks with or without hip hop, and plenty did before the genre came around inthe late 70's.

I think the number of ppl who sold crack because Jayz told them to is around the same number that killed their wife or mother because Eminem told them to.

And the list of those pushing the religion of money and materialism goes way beyond Jay Z. Very few in media aren't guilty of pushing those things, and most do it a lot more subtly than Jay.

Where's the line though? Bragging and boasting is a common thing in hip hop, as is bragging about money and material things. What separates the diamond his fans throw up from the the Nike swoosh or any other Brand? It's branding, not illuminati.

He is a puppet of the devil, and he is nothing more than a distraction

from what?

Notice how lil wayne's legs are skinnier than his arms?

You're getting close buddy.

Read the Bible. Start with Psalm 2:2:

The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed (Jesus Christ), saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.

They worship Lucifer. The devil. Yes, he's real. Yes, God is real. Yes, the devil reall HAS tricked the entire world. I won't get too deep into this because it's so deep it's scary, but start looking for the signs and you WILL see them.

The humans that you see are merely puppets to the devil and his fallen angels. Everything in this world is related to God. The "illuminati/new world order" conspiracy is just the physical manifestation of a supernatural war going on in the heavens. They are bringing this all about so the anti-christ can rule over the world instead of Christ in his 1000 year range.

The devil has the ENTIRE world tricked. Even conspiracy theorists that start cluing into this stuff are deceived, because they think it's "The bankers" or "the Jews". Well, it is the jews, but not the REAL jews, it's THESE jews:

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Nothing "we the people" can do can stop any of this. Christ and God are going to, you just need to make sure you're on the winning team when judgement day comes.

Haven't you figured it out yet? this is all a simulation we are living in a program in some quantum computer.. Look at how comical its all become.

im not sure if you mentioned all the expensive riot officer-like gear

It's a mad, mad world.

There's been a lot of mention on this thread about the 12 victims, and the 12 skeletons in the lil Wayne vid. But to me that seems unrelated, if only because you can't predict how many would have died. Many more could have succombed to blood loss, or died from shock, some of those who were killed just might have survived their wounds if circumstances had been just a bit different. To me there's no way anyone could "predict" 12 deaths in such a scenario, even if well planned out.

Production screenshots show more like 15 skeletons, anyways.

I think he was sent to kill certain people in that theater by a government or shadow government organiztion. He was sent to also kill others to make it look insane and random. The movie connection, the explosive rigs, dropping out of the grad program, dying his hair red, getting denied to the gun club because of weird messages, all carefully staged to make him look unhinged so later the blame could be placed on him. Think Manchurian Candidate theory. He was recruited for this through his connection to the government. Weren't there military related people in that theater who died? Anyone been looking into that? Plus that reporter who nearly died in that shooting in Canada. I don't think he could really afford all that stuff himself and I think someone was helping him get it, and I think someone is telling him exactly what to do now. They wanted the people connected to the military and the reporter DEAD, for whatever reason, probably because they knew too much or were getting in the way somehow.

As for the Illuminati and the lil Wayne video that shit is creepy. Don't really know what to make of it besides maybe it was meant as a coded warning or message to someone involved in the shooting. Maybe it was a message to Holmes to go through with it, the details of the visuals in the video a code of instructions. But then the whole Illuminati thing...I always feel like people against or interested in the Illuminati tend to be deeply religious, or at least that's what I've been seeing a lot of, and they loose me in the dogma. The government needing to kill certain people for whatever reason sounds more plausible and less complicated to me, and if anything I think this video may have been a part of it as a coded message to Holmes.

I have another theory, or agree with one, that perhaps Holmes isn't the shooter, but a patsy, and someone else did the actual shooting to ensure the targets were killed. One opposing point to that theory that comes to mind is perhaps limited visibility from the dark and from the smoke bombs. But maybe nightvision was used. Now I'm just reachin.

edits: details

I'm pretty sure that comic books have covered every imaginable scenario and then some. One could say that comic books predicted an alien invasion where humans are harvested for their meat if it ever were to happen.

Here's another coincidence that some are overlooking: the guy was also a kook in a high-pressure academic program while taking heavy pharmaceutical drugs.

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Vicodin.

Have they released that Holmes is medicated? I hadn't seen yet, but honestly I have had about enough of the reports. It's all the same rehashed bs, but I am curious about his medical information if it has been released.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/james-holmes-court-colorado-shooting-suspects-strange-dazed-16842840

They make some good points here about them not being able to give him meds, and yes, they DO want to monitor his state to see what if anything is going on, but it doesn't mean he wasn't.

I have heard in several places that Holmes was on Vicodin and admitted it to police. The source is the ABC news affiliate in Denver. They do not name their source and the statement is kind of glossed over. It could be true, although without identifying the source it's just hearsay. Unfortunately, with the records sealed we will most likely never find out about his drug panel.

The NY Post has an alleged witness to Holmes' pot smoking. The witness is Lance Bradshaw, 25 and he says, "I’d see him smoking weed behind the apartment." At least the person is identified and it seems legit. It would be interesting to get more details though. The link is to page 2, which is where the reference is, but if you want to read the whole article you'll have to go to page 1.

The Chicago Suntimes claims only that Homes' was "found in possession of Vicodin." This article is weird, it's basically 3 factoids about the case and then it goes into some other crap below without much segue. However, one of the factoids unrelated to the drug claim was interesting, "Fact: Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates, who is a friend of Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy, previously worked in the intelligence division of the New York City Police Department."

Most of what I've read is that he was on "100 mg of Vicodin".

Standard dose is 5mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen. So he'd have to have taken 20 of them.

What gets me about his initital encounter with the cops is that he was forthcoming with info. He tells them he's on Vicodin? He tells them about the explosives in his apartment? Then, later, he is refusing to be cooperative? ABS News now reports him spitting at guards, and using the plastic bags placed over his hands to save the gun powder residue evidence as "puppets." Story here: http://abcnews.go.com/US/james-holmes-spitting-correction-officers-forcing-spit-guard/story?id=16844456

Pot wouldn't suprise me. I don't think it's very relevant unless he is truly mentally ill. Drug abuse could exacerbate his symptoms.

Yes the vicodin claim comes from the Denver channel 7 article and is not verifiable so I don't know. I agree it's weird that he just hung out and waited for the cops to show up and essentially confessed. Then in jail the cops have to wear spit guards because he is constantly spitting at them and other people and shit, something is fishy here. I don't know what it is but it's not sitting right. What the police/ FBI are claiming is just not adding up and now the case is sealed sooooo... I guess all we have is suspicions and gossip to go off of.

Also, there was a report that an inmate (conveniently) released today was the one who claims to have witnesses Holmes spitting and acting violently towards guards.

The same news report went right on to contradict itself by saying that Holmes was being kept away from other inmates. Oops.

One of the victims wrote movingly about an "odd feeling" that led her outside and to relative safety, just before a similar berserker shooting in a mall in Toronto. This is her blog entry.

http://deadspin.com/5927673/aspiring-sportscaster-killed-in-shooting-at-colorado-movie-theater

she steps outside and avoids one theater massacre then is later killed in another theater shooting in colorado

Am I the only person who thinks he just looks bored and tired? Like he's just zoning out not giving a fuck what's going on around him?

check out his pupils

I agree he looks like he needs REM sleep. However I also believe he is drugged, since they would not confirm or deny it.

Oh, come on. You can't see me, but i'm rolling my eyes right now.

and in the music video at 3:50 it depicts exactly 12 skeletons! this can't be a coincidence.

i hope you're being sarcastic.

Something's fucky.

the most fearsome thing about that article is that lil wayne is the oracle of my generation

This is never going to be seen, but he came in an exit only door... It didnt even have a handle on that side. Teenagers would always try to sneak into movies if those doors were accessible. Sorry about spelling, posting from my phone.

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Thanks for explaining that, I didnt hear that update. Is this confirmed? Im curious how the door was propped open for that long.

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Thats interesting. The huge theatre complex in my city has 2 of those doors in every section, and they definitely dont have alarms. (i walked out of them to "steal" the imax 3d glasses one time ... )

The problem is that most theaters have doors at the front to allow for quicker exits for customers after the movie and aren't in fact emergency exits (and thus not covered with alarms). He'll have no case there.

So in 1984 Frank Miller plotted out a theater shooting scene with the CIA? Will you now edit your post and include the fact that the comic scene in question was written in 1984?

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You may want to add that Holmes' father works for FICO (which absorbed his previous company, HNC Software, which was funded by the DoD). His father, Robert Holmes, is now working on what amounts to the precursor to 'Skynet' technology (‘cortronic neural networks’), funded by DARPA.

Check it out for yourself. You can't make this shit up.

What? OMG, I did not know about this. The rabbit hole just goes deeper.

You didn't make the leap linking Orwell's 1984 and a pending distopian future resulting from this mass murder.

aka the "I can't explain it because it isn't there. So if you don't see it you're dumb." excuse

But, you'd drawn out everything else they were supposed to think. Why stop now? The unfortunate part is that with people like you just wildly making up connections it makes other's who might take time and pride in their research look like fucking idiots. You're irresponsible.

Will you call yourself irresponsible if it shows that there was more to this than the government is telling us? Will you be held culpable or are you only interested in judging others?

Not at all. I do NOT discount the possibility, but it is irresponsible for people to put out disinfo just because they think it's ironic or coincidental. That's just fucking stupid. BTW you should also learn to read before you get on your high horse. I didn't say anything about what this was and was not.

I only put the same onus on you that you were putting on others. None of us know shit. We should keep an open mind, even if we disagree.

I was critical with the OP. That's what I did. You put nothing on me. If more of you people were critical you wouldn't be such laughing stocks...in case the down vote befall me, yes many of you are laughed at by everyday people. Shocking I know, but that's what you get when you want to be pseudo intellectuals.

We don't have to be critical of each other because we are not delusional to the false utopia of control that is ever pushing forward in the world. I don't care if sheep laugh at me, for they are nothing more than sheep. We are here to speak freely, to mention our ideas, to connect with others of similar ideologies. Not to be harassed by internet white knights who feel they have to step into the wilderness and expect to tame it. Everyone lives a delusion, whether it's the person being controlled, the person controlling, or even the observer who happens to notice what's really going on. You are watching numerous people jump into a volcano and calling it nothing more than people jumping. You fail to acknowledge the volcano all. As we sit and point and say "Hey, those people are jumping into volcanoes! I don't think I want to do that," you waste your time and ours by going "You're wrong, they are jumping and there is nothing more to it!"

Wow. A volcano. The OP posted bullshit. I called bullshit. It's really that simple. I'm sure whatever you're talking about might make a lot of sense to you, I'm not saying it doesn't but I'm going to keep this simple. The OP did not post a "theory" based on any types of facts. The OP posted disinfo. Maybe this sub should be renamed r\conspiracy_ideaithoughtofwhileplaying360 I'm sure you're right about your volcano thing, but you aren't correct about what I am saying until you accept that fact that making up lies shouldn't be defended.

He didn't make anything up you fucking prick. He simply stated a list of information, and drew no conclusions from it. All the while saying that they were coincidences. You drew your own conclusions from it and called him a liar, that seems like your own problem.

No cunt, read above. I told him that the comic came out in 1984 and he posted that information without checking. I gave you dick brained idiots a litteral example of how the OP was making up facts. Then after point this out to him he said "whatever". Suck a dick moron. Learn to fucking read before you run your mouth.

Usually we're not critical each other because most people don't come here and deliberately provide us disinfo, like you did, being a fucking "cunt" that you are claiming others to be. You're starting a god damned fight by being dishonest and calling other people idiots. What makes you "right" and why the fuck would you even care if you were so "right?" Go be a bag full of Asian dicks somewhere else.

Why do you think that insulting people is okay? Do you really think people are going to take you seriously when you're acting like an asshat half of the time?

Grow up. You want us to be critical, which is exactly what we are doing by accepting all possibilities rather than the one fed to us. Meanwhile, you are insulting people for not believing what you say as if we're scientologists and you are Tom Cruise.

Maybe if you engaged in a conversation with us instead of shouting insults you would be getting further. Also, do some research into Monarch programming. Just a slice of what's "real".

And frankly, imaginary people can laugh at me all day. Your ridicule only strengthens my resolve. It's like finding water mid-way through a long hike; just amps me up for more.

I don't think I'm being insulting at all. Water is wet and you assholes are stupid. I know all I'll ever need to know about Monarch Programming, mind control, Alistair Crowley, 666,777, Liber number you people make shit up. It's all out there on the internet. Anyone can Google. You're not intelligent because you can sit through a fucking YouTube video. If you are capable of critical thought you have yet to even suggest it. I'll make this simple; The OP (still following me?) made shit up(that's the important part). Now I know that those five words are troubling you because I am corse so let me try something different with you...get comfy...are you hungry? Want a warmer blanket? Okay. The OP...remember him? He is a bwaddy who makwes up widdle wies. Is that easier for you to understand?

Alistair Crowley

Never read his stuff. Anything you can enlighten me on?

666

Does this have a single definition? If so, I don't know it. I don't even know what it means except some Christians have attributed it to the devil at some point

777

WTF does 777 represent?

Liber number

What the fuck is Liber?

So wait, who's stupid again??? You ramble on for a paragraph talking in baby language when you bring nothing to the table and can't even properly name simple concepts. You are purely insinuating that you know things and others do not, when you obviously know nothing more than how to insult others as a defence mechanism for your ego.

Yeah I'm the one who's all over the place. You went from "enlighten me" to
"you're a douchebag". I'm sure all your arguments are valid after that. I'll do this for you. Look up Crowley and Manson, the CIA, Monarch Programming and Scientology. Then top it off with a search for Jack Parsons, Bablyon and NASA. After all that feel free to email me and lecture me for my heavy handedness. Good luck. Don't take it personal...any of it.

I don't take it personally at all.

Why am I being held to a different standard than yourself? My small slag was a pebble compared to the boulder insults you were throwing my way... you can dish it, but obviously cannot take any of it back.

I'm willing to have a proper conversation with you, but you seem only interested in playing games with your ego.

You're not going to understand anything I'm saying until you're not worried about being "right". I understand how that seems hypocritical but it's not, its rather a matter of semantics. I was insulting to people because I felt like it. I also understand how that makes me appear to be an asshole or what have you and that is also correct, but since I'm not worried about making friends it amounts to little. The context of what I was saying is true regardless of behavior. The OP was making shit up and people were accepting it as truth. I can't understand how that is acceptable. Who cares about my bedside manner? Why be so preoccupied with opinions? There was a fact and that was ignored. I'll shoot you a pm if you're seriously interested in learning about those things I mentioned.

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self righteous explanation why your own rules you hold over others don't apply to yourself

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appear as an authority on subjects but offer nothing of substance unless you are pestered into it

blah blah blah

I'm not gonna play your game, man. Have a good one. You know where to find me.

I assume sucking dick in an alley. Have fun with that.

Stay classy bud.

Let's play who gets the last word. I'll bet you'll win.

Is that the equivalent of "no comment"? Looks like I just did something. I schooled your ass, don't forget your books.

Glad we agree.

As you can see, the rest of the internet also like totally agrees

The rest of the internet is six people. You've just made it to the front of the class.

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Also, the OP threw the 1984 point into his surmation after I suggested he do so with no research on his part. The comic came out in 1986. Maybe you're doing yourself a disservice by assuming that people here, including the OP is capable of independent thought.

Did you just contradict yourself, mere seconds apart?

I'm glad you skimmed that vigilantcitizen link as well. Too bad the rest of us don't have the mental capacity to do the same, right?

Why are you focusing on such an insignificant detail? Why are you attempting to be divisive? Why are you so indignant? Why resort to personal attacks, so quickly?

LMAO. Seriously you people are hilarious. IDK what you're talking about with the VC link. Try to be somewhat specific when you're communication. I know that you'll have to deal with being incorrect all the time but it'll eventually help. If you're referencing when the issues were published, I dont need a link for that. I own them and can read them perfectly fine. Im sorry that the details about the OP making shit up without verification is cumbersome to you, but some of those "details" that you seem to disdain sometimes help people solving crimes. Good thing you're not worried about confusing thing like details or the truth. Making shit up and blaming some unseen force works much better.

The VC link, is the link you clicked on, a few posts below. No need to be disingenuous. If you have a copy of this Batman comic, would you mind posting a picture of you holding it with a timestamp?

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/x0tz8/too_many_coincidences_and_strange_things/c5iamw7

The rest of your comment appears to be an angry diatribe, unrelated to the topic we are discussing, and is full of the conjecture that you have such disdain for.

The fact is, I accused you of prejudging the majority of redditors here, you denied it, and then confirmed it in the very next comment. I fear the longer this conversation carries out, the more disturbed you will become.

You understand, this is a sub devoted to conspiracy 'theories', correct?

Time stamp? Look up the publishing date. What is wrong with you people? It's simple fucking deduction. It's Occam's Razor . This asshole was posting disinfo. Even if it was a conspiracy theory sub as opposed to a conspiracy sub, it wouldn't excuse lies. At that "theory" would denote a scientific process. Guessing and blatantly making up shit to whip hysteria is not science no matter how much it would make you feel better.

Don't play dumb.

I know the date the book was published.

You claimed you owned the issue of the Batman comic in question, as opposed to clicking on the link I reposted and feigning intellectual superiority.

I called you on your claim, as little lies like that tend to expose liars for what they are, more often than big ones. Rather than comply, you chose to act ignorant.

I now am no longer interested in a timestamp, nor continuing this pathetic, one sided debate. Consider it a favor, as the more you post, the more irrational and fallacious your responses become. Clinging to minute, meaningless issues as you are, is a hallmark of an argument from a position of bad faith.

I have no interest in debating someone that has made themselves known to be a liar, especially involving a detail so insignificant.

Cheers.

Well your feint didn't work, so...? I'm not a liar because you're too lazy to read comments. I'll cut and paste it since that's what dip shits like you seem understand... [–]deanasaurs77 3 points 22 hours ago So in 1984 Frank Miller plotted out a theater shooting scene with the CIA? Will you now edit your post and include the fact that the comic scene in question was written in 1984? permalinkeditdeletereply [–][deleted] 22 hours ago [deleted] permalinkparent [–]deanasaurs77 -6 points 21 hours ago You didn't make the leap linking Orwell's 1984 and a pending distopian future resulting from this mass murder. permalinkparenteditdeletereply [–]I_ROPE_HORSES[S] 3 points 21 hours ago people can make that link themselves if they want permalinkparentreportreply [–]deanasaurs77 -4 points 20 hours ago But, you'd drawn out everything else they were supposed to think. Why stop now? The unfortunate part is that with people like you just wildly making up connections it makes other's who might take time and pride in their research look like fucking idiots. You're irresponsible. permalinkparenteditdeletereply [–]I_ROPE_HORSES[S] 4 points 20 hours ago Why are you still here, go do something.

Are you feeling okay? It is like you are having a nervous breakdown before my eyes. What the fuck did you just post?

I'm not arguing with you about the date on the comic book, as the idea of this book being related to the shooting in anyway is a novelty at best.

Curious, how you immediately sought of the most insignificant detail.

I'll give you one more opportunity to post the Batman comic in question, with a timestamp. Proving to me that you are not a petty liar. Don't expect a response until then, you aren't worth the effort.

Boring. I can't be bothered with this shit anymore. I promise you I didn't bother reading what I'm sure was a carefully crafted email. I'm sorry but you're just too much of a fucking numb skull for me to bother with this anymore. I did enjoy getting stupid asses like you riled up and again you are too stupid (not being mean. You're just stupid) to understand the simple point of contention, but rest assured that your family and friends are most likely as dim witted as yourself so you should have a comfortable life surrounded by half wits. Peace dickface!

LMAO. You call me self righteous and then guess. What a joker. No pun...maybe a little. I'm not stupid enough to assume anything. I asked questions and proved myself correct. The OP was irresponsible and I pointed it out. You can defend speculation if you'd like but I don't play guessing games. That's for asshole.

You are so transparent it's almost sad.

I can say things that dont make sense too if you'd like. The sky is so big it's sad. How about the water is so wet its sad. Now you try one, but this time try to formulate a complete sentence. Edit. Am I a CIA agent now? Please tell me that's where you're going with this. PLEASE!!!

Why don't you answer my original question, rather than acting like a clown?

Whats the original question?

Oops, that was not you, I apologise.

Calm the fuck down.

No, we are simply calling you an idiot.

"we" would need to because none of you are intelligent enough to do so on your own.

"Wahhh! These people are talking about something I don't believe in so they are obviously unintelligent, WAHHH!" Go try and correct the homosexual community, apparently you like taking on impossible and unworthy time wasting tasks.

LMAO. You're the only one making baby noises. "apparently you like taking on impossible and unworthy time wasting tasks." Like leading a horse to water. I never cared if you suddenly understood your ignorance. I just wanted to point it out.

You might as well be pointing in a mirror. You're arguing with someone over the internet, if you think you have something to prove you are certainly idiotic for thinking this would be the medium to do so.

You've almost completely worn me down with your idiocy. I'm writing these words. They're easily referenced. i didn't say anything of that nature. I mean it's right fucking above you. how hard is it to just look up and correct yourself? Please cut your dick off. any reproduction from you will eventually clog the gene pool. I'm kidding, but seriously don't have any children. They're liable to be retarded.

Wow, your argument has officially fallen to nothing but insults. I believe we're done here.

Wakka wakka

I'm pretty sure I read that the GS preview wasn't airing at that theater for the premier showing. Maybe I'm wrong though.

The Denver Rescue Mission provided a turkey dinner for approximately 350 people. Officials are reporting widespread food poisoning after some people became violently ill

relevance?

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Is this the attitude I deserve for honestly wanting to clear up something I don't understand?

Maybe you think I am implying that it doesn't have relevance?

Poor guy... wonder what kind of horrific mind control experiment he was involved in. Hope he doesn't get a death sentence.

I'm glad that there is always somebody out there willing to connect dots for me, i would have missed the whole 9/11 thing otherwise. But on this one you dont have it. Not from what i can see, the evidence makes sense to me thus far except his hair color, i mean come on that orangy red is so lame.

Wasnt he a neuro science major or something? Psycology major breeds crazy. But there is a little lack of closure until he speaks, so i guess you still have a littl room to present a conspiracy case. Im not sensing any push for reform springing from this so i cant see the reasoning behind it. But two or three more of these in short time would put a strong push towards the security state. We shall see

I also believe that I had tuna for lunch, just like the 1/2 the cast of The Dark Night Rises on the Thursday before leaving for Los Angeles.

300 million people, a complex society, you manage to find some coincidences ? compelling really ?

There is no way a crazed gunman could ever shoot up random people and you people would not find some way to make it suspicious

Now you guys are reaching far. If he was some sort of trained agent or intelligence drone or whatever you're professing, you're telling me that with hundreds of ammunition at his disposal he was able to only kill 12 people? The kill count is the strongest arrow pointing to a an amateur, a stupid immature kid with no idea what he's doing.

You're forgetting he injured a lot more than just 12 people, this was one of the largest if not the largest mass shooting in the US in quite awhile.

There was a military person in the theater who supposedly called into 911 and said that the shooter was probably military. The audio from different 911 calls also supposedly shows short bursts of gunfire. I don't know what the answer is, but there are absolutely inconsistencies with this story, add to that the possibility of an accomplice and you've got a potential for conspiracy. Does that mean it is? No. Maybe he's just on anti-depressants and is yet another example of how feeding people pharmaceuticals like they are frickin' candy leads to trouble.

...The pentagon is just fucking with us now

You get a nice delicious downvote for your flair. I'm just happy I didn't see prior to finishing the book.

Better?

totally. You get an upvote because "a Redditor always pays his debts."

Someone please honestly connect this Lil Wayne music video to the shootings!!!!

WHY WOULD THE GLOBAL ELITES LEAVE A CLUE LIKE THAT, THAT CONSPIRACY THEORISTS COULD THEN SOURCE!!!

I don't like Lil Wayne, but he's made several songs where he takes a pretty hard stance against the elite ( See "Georgia Bush").

It doesn't make any god damn sense what so ever. It's a theory that grasps at straws and make people who are actually awake and actually want to wake other look moronic!!!!

Okay, so why is he taking pot shots at George Bush, the handling of hurricane Katrina and the government blowing up dams in that song?

Let me guess "It's to cover up the fact that he works for the illuminati!!!"

It's a trick. An illusion of dissent. You don't really think that he means everything he says in his videos?

So exactly what I said you would say?

It doesn't diminish the value of what I said.

Yes, it's essentially just a ruse, nothing more.

I'll let Grant Morrison answer this one: “The most pernicious image of all is the anarchist-hero figure. A creation of commodity culture, he allows us to buy into an inauthentic simulation of revolutionary praxis. The hero encourages passive spectating and revolt becomes another product to be consumed.” The Invisibles

why is he taking pot shots at George Bush

sales on Kanye's coattails

That could be true, but it would totally discount global elitists being involved, which is ridiculous!

No, it neither confirms nor denies tie-ins others have made. Just invalidates your point is all.

No it doesn't! Says Lil Wayne is doing it to ride on kanyes coat tails implies he's doing it for financial gain, not for some ridiculous agenda of PROJECTING PLANS TO THE MASSES!!!

THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!

lol wut? too many caps bro

have you seen the video? I am skeptical too, but it's creepy as all fuck. Not only are there skeletons in a movie theater, there is sacrificial/occult symbolism all throughout, and there are even exploding gas canisters as Wayne walks through the dark night. Many people linked Lil Wayne to the evil PTB long ago, and this is by far their best argument (imo). Frankly, I am growing increasingly terrified of the blood-stained elite.. which is probably exactly what they want: to control people via fear and an illusion of all-reaching power. 2012 my friends, this shit aint a fairy tale.

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What kinds of conclusions?

I'm kind of with you on this stuff. Are they so cocky that they purposefully leave clues like this just to laugh at us? Or do they leave "obvious" but practically worthless connections like this just to make conspiracy theorists seem extra crazy? Or maybe it's just that not everything that makes the news is their doing.

I imagine it could be any or a combination of three things:

• -mockery

• -ritual (I'd imagine occultism takes symbolism/ritual very seriously)

• -hide in plain sight

it's really not that bizarre that the elite would communicate its vision through mainstream media. and shit, I thought Lil Wayne seemed inhuman and demonic long before all these conspiracy theories....

It could be an attempt to discredit anything people might have to say about anything as "crazy" or worse yet, label it as a "conspiracy".

Even if the messages were overly obvious, everyone would dismiss them because people have their heads too deep up their own asses to notice.

Its to show those who are awake and would oppose, who is in control

Seriously. If such an organization existed, it wouldn't dangle fucking carrots in your face about it via one of the most popular artists in today's music industry.

Why not?

Because it exists in shadow, and exposing itself would not be conducive to being a secret organization?

You need to look more into Luciferianism. These aspects are a part of the religion. The more information they give to the public at large as they exploit them, the more power is given and consumed (they believe). Sounds crazy, but so are many positive religious people who think the opposite.

Audacity, audacity, always audacity.

BTW that comic came out in 1986. Way to research asshole.

Every time I see a comment on this thread and die a little more inside, it always seems to have your name on top of it. Give yourself a pat on the back

I knew self congratulating was something you guys were into.

Exactly! "Whatever" let's be cunts and make shit up about a fucking mass murder, but "Whatever"!!! Child.

He doesn't look drugged. He looks like a guy who lost sleep after he realized what he had done and how completely screwed he is now.

I read on the news that he took a drug to chill him out right before he did it... Can't remember the name of the drug it was in an article.

Vicodin.

Apparently 100mg of vicodin. The equivalent of 20 x 500mg

wat?

The equivalent of 20 x 500mg

That would be 10,000mg.

Are you kidding me?? He looks totally drugged. And on a lot more than a vicodin or two...

The original "Scary Movie" had a scene where movie goers gang up on a person for talking to much, while "Shakespeare in love" was playing. Clues to this incident are everywhere man, Illuminati and bigfoot always create foreshadowing events to desensitize people to the atrocities they plan on committing.

That scene was a spoof of "Scream 2" which was directed by Wes Craven, who has been sighted at Bilderberg group meetings

Wes craven at bilderberg group meetings? Got a source?

(Check your trolldar)

Lol I see I see.

Not to mention the Lil Wayne video that debuted days earlier with scenes explicitly forshadowing the events (12 skeletons in the movie theater, 5 womens heads (5 women were killed)).

Folks, you need to get serious about GOD. This is not "illuminati vs the people". This is the Devil, his demons and fallen angels, vs God, and you need to pick a side. Stop being a slave to the devil, and get righteous and right with Jesus QUICK because time is going to run out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=384MuLdLW6s <---- Lil Wayne video

How did Lil Wayne get his contract and start recording songs? He met a demon named MURMUR:

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&amp;sclient=psy-ab&amp;q=lil+wayne+murmur&amp;oq=lil+wayne+murmur&amp;gs_l=hp.3..0l3j0i30.168.2042.0.2188.16.11.0.5.5.0.171.1026.7j4.11.0...0.0...1c.FcEGdUDwdes&amp;pbx=1&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&amp;fp=f59a3d6c63eeb2c7&amp;biw=1280&amp;bih=929 <----- "lil wayne murmur" search results

Oh.... hmmm seems you made that connection.

WELL, I hope everyone takes my post seriously, and realizes that our fight is against SPIRITUAL evil, not HUMAN evil. yes humans are doing these things on earth, but they are being influenced and guided by the demonic.

Ephesians 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

We're plenty evil all by ourselves w/o demonic overlords guiding it. And if Jesus or God were involved then they too would be in control of the demons b/c they are omnipotent. So your statement is a paradox in and of itself. Lets stop praying for some Father in the sky to save us and lets start saving ourselves.

I was totally on board until you brought religion into it. There's not a shred of evidence that God has anything to do with anything on this planet. His teachings, supposedly continuous, are fairly contradictory, and I find many of them detestable and immoral. And they're supposed to have come from a "loving and forgiving" God. Fuck that shit. He's like the abusive father who says "its because I love you" but really he's just a fucked up abusive parent. I don't want to live under his rules even if he is a real entity.

While I admit the attack was weird and that there's more to it, I don't believe divine forces have a part in this at all.

How would they have known how many women would die?

If you believe in the supernatural, the implausible ceases to be so.

Yeah... you lose your credibility when you bring demons into it, and start quoting the bible. If you believe that shit, you'll believe anything.

You get a nice delicious downvote for your flair. I'm just happy I didn't see prior to finishing the book.

I stand corrected. Still, an arraignment is fairly important given that a guilty/not guilty plea is made.

Whats the original question?

I could be wrong but I think the arraignment is next Monday.

He hasn't even been charged yet. He's being held on suspicion of 1st degree murder.

It is if you're claim is that he's getting $10k extra which he can afford to just blow on fancy armor and stuff... Though I don't currently know any grad students, the few I have known had to be on a fairly tight budget and my peers as undergrads at a nearby University certainly don't get anywhere close to an extra $10k over the summer.

Just cause i don't agree doesn't mean i don't respect your answer.

I'd agree with 2 out of 3 of these. He doesn't make selling crack cool, i think he tells his tales of it in an artful way, but the history of media is full of examples of interesting or stylized things that normal people wouldn't dream of doing. For example, it's cool how they rob banks in Point Break and Inside Man, but i wouldn't do it. People would sell drugs and rob banks with or without hip hop, and plenty did before the genre came around inthe late 70's.

I think the number of ppl who sold crack because Jayz told them to is around the same number that killed their wife or mother because Eminem told them to.

And the list of those pushing the religion of money and materialism goes way beyond Jay Z. Very few in media aren't guilty of pushing those things, and most do it a lot more subtly than Jay.

Where's the line though? Bragging and boasting is a common thing in hip hop, as is bragging about money and material things. What separates the diamond his fans throw up from the the Nike swoosh or any other Brand? It's branding, not illuminati.

Time stamp? Look up the publishing date. What is wrong with you people? It's simple fucking deduction. It's Occam's Razor . This asshole was posting disinfo. Even if it was a conspiracy theory sub as opposed to a conspiracy sub, it wouldn't excuse lies. At that "theory" would denote a scientific process. Guessing and blatantly making up shit to whip hysteria is not science no matter how much it would make you feel better.

"we" would need to because none of you are intelligent enough to do so on your own.

"Wahhh! These people are talking about something I don't believe in so they are obviously unintelligent, WAHHH!" Go try and correct the homosexual community, apparently you like taking on impossible and unworthy time wasting tasks.

exactly my point. saying that the drill's similarities to the actual events can be dismissed because the drill happened during the same day, but hours after the shootings, is disingenuous at best.