James Holmes father works for FICO. Attached to LIBOR scandal. (MIC)

125  2012-07-26 by [deleted]

[Robert Holmes Linkedin Page](www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-holmes/4/47b/24a)

(Wiki on FICO)[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FICO]

Daily Mail with verification of father and where he works:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2178852/James-Holmes-Did-Dark-Knight-gunman-snap-failing-meet-expectations-brilliant-academic-father.html#ixzz21kPkxky4

Additional Backround:

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2012/jul/20/holmess-father-is-anti-fraud-scientist/

According to his LinkedIn profile, James Holmes’s father, Dr. Robert Holmes, who received a PhD in Statistics in 1981 from the University of California at Berkeley, worked for San Diego-based HNC Software, Inc. from 2000 to 2002. HNC, known as a “neural network” company, and DARPA, beginning in 1998, have worked on developing “cortronic neural networks,” which would allow machines to interpret aural and visual stimuli to think like humans.

The cortronic concept was developed by HNC Software’s chief scientist and co-founder, Robert Hecht-Nielsen. HNC merged with the Minneapolis-based Fair Isaac Corporation (FICO), a computer analysis and decision-making company. Robert Holmes continues to work at FICO.

Robert Holmes brief bio at linked in states the following: “My educational background is in Mathematics and Statistics. My experience over the last 10 years at HNC and FICO has been in developing predictive models for financial services; credit & fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.”

Robert Holmes has developed computer algorithms that demonstrate predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models. He is one of several scientists who patented a predictive model system used to detect telecommunications fraud.

Check this out:

According to his linkedin profile:

"Management Experience: I am currently managing a team building Falcon Fraud Manager Credit card fraud models. I have also managed teams in the Telco and Identity Theft fraud areas."

Now check this out right off the FICO website:

The new release of FICO Falcon Fraud Manager 6 is the most accurate and comprehensive solution for detecting payment card fraud, reducing losses by up to 50%. No other system detects as much fraud with as little impact on customers and low operational costs

http://www.fico.com/en/products/dmapps/pages/fico-falcon-fraud-manager.aspx

I'm trying to find information that Robert Holmes was going to testify at the LIBOR trial, this is still speculation, but a man of his position might be a key witness in a trail such as this.

(Write up with some out there ideas, but some good points)[http://getreadyportland.com/app/the-storm-is-coming/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-storm-is-coming]

Some interesting work Robert Holmes worked on.

http://www.legitgov.org/Colo-shooters-father-Robert-M-Holmes-authored-US-Navy-military-reports

http://dl.acm.org/author_page.cfm?id=81100345670&coll=DL&dl=ACM&trk=0

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44 comments

Just when I thought we were reaching the bottom of the proverbial rabbit hole...

There is no bottom.

Fractal reality!

reality is just the mind doing kegels, forgetting which way the shit flows.

Is there any way to verify that Robert Holmes is indeed James' father, and that he is in fact involved in the Libor scandal?

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Is there proof he is involved in Libor?

I think that is a fabrication originating from sorcha faal

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1600.htm

Sorcha Fail.

Sorry conspiracy theorists, that is not a credible source.

I think that's why he said fabrication buddy.....

Comment was not aimed at hidden hand buddy...

Who in here has said that Sorcha's articles are legit? For the most part I think the general consensus is that he's full of shit

It was a general comment. No need to get your back up.

You responded to him, I think its pretty reasonable to assume you were responding to his post.

you know what they say about assumptions. Why are you dragging this out anyways?

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The final piece to the puzzle would be confirming if he was indeed about to testify.

However everything in his LinkedIn just screams wtf.

The final piece to the puzzle would be confirming if he was indeed about to testify.

this.

This has nothing to do with LIBOR.

Exactly. FICO is focused on consumer credit and fraud, not interbank commerce. Not a single fact here to back up the speculation.

My cousin is a bank teller. She's closer to the LIBOR scandal that James Holmes.

Essentially, no.

More questionable information possible about his father (note I cannot confirm this but based on the name, location, and companies involved it seems pretty likely.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/96057/000095014206002034/ex3_sc13d-sys.txt

ctrl+f robert holmes

Now I can't say for sure that this is the same robert holmes who is the father of the shooter. But I do know that robert holmes works for FICO based out of san diego. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2178852/James-Holmes-Did-Dark-Knight-gunman-snap-failing-meet-expectations-brilliant-academic-father.html?ito=feeds-newsxml This appears to be some kind of SEC filling related to a merger between SYS Corp and AI metrix.

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=113926

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SYS_Technologies

SYS Technologies NYSE Amex: SYS, also known simply as SYS, provides information technology products though services and wireless communications systems for the Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security and various industrial customers.[1] For large industrial customers in the telecommunications, utilities, construction, chemical, and biomedical industries, its products and services are used to manage remote assets.[1][3] SYS also provides financial and management services, primarily to U.S. government customers.[1] Since the company was founded it has been based in or around San Diego, California.[2]" they are now owned by

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratos_Defense_%26_Security_Solutions

according to these filings, Holmes owned 138,194 shares of SYS. Sys was bought for stock in kratos at a rate of 1.26 shares SYS/KTOS. The market value at the time of the transaction for kratos was about 19$ /share. This would me he had stock with a value of 138194 * 1.24 * 19 = $3,255,850. This just seems odd because he is being described as having come from a middle class background, but most people in the middle class I know don't own 3million in stock in a single company.

seems like I got the wrong robert holmes http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-holmes/3/668/53a

This just seems odd because he is being described as having come from a middle class background, but most people in the middle class I know don't own 3million in stock in a single company.

If he was a lead scientist or important developer or whatever it's pretty likely he could have received stock options. Maybe that would account for it.

But I can find no record that he actually worked for SYS - All indications are that he worked for FICO and before that HNC

In your other submission you were mentioning a link to the defence industry via kratos. sys is a subsidiary of kratos I think . but that company he used to work for HNC is linked to darpa

Like many San Diego-based software companies, HNC Software Inc. traces its origins to the defense industry.

the link is via the stock ownership, not employment.

Sorry, I am being dumb again. Not sure what you mean.

you are saying he could have gotten the money via options, but I'm saying he wasn't employed there so why would he get stock?

This guy called Robert Holmes worked at sys.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-holmes/3/668/53a

so he did. I am going to censor my post as it likely seems inaccurate given this info. Thanks!

Just reread my comment above wasn't really anything to with your comment that I replied to . but hnc does link to the defence industry which was the original connection you were trying to make in your submission, I was commenting on earlier.

prediction: not a lick of this ever reaches mainstream news, and Robert Holmes either "commits suicide" or appears to be in a catatonic trance.

It is or will be that way because almost every person out there will say the same thing. Not because it is true or even because its the only option. It will be that way because we say and do nothing. Then we compound the problem by "giving up" and saying nothing ever comes of acting on these issues. People new to the bullshit/system "think" this is the only option and carry on saying that. Few people stand up to say "Hey! We're being fucked with, let's ACTUALLY do something!".

What kind of person are you? Defeatist comments come naturally to you or are you just apathetic? Is your comment the end result you're looking for?

What could you change to see some actual "change"? Maybe its what you say and how you say it?

Think about what you say. You determine your reality and people DO hear and sway one way or another depending on others views (right or wrong). If everyone understood that I think we'd be in a totally different place.

thank you for writing that. seriously. it changed my perspective completely.

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dead video link?

hey, what is the conspiracy here?

sorry but this is the first time I've heard of these companies and I'm having a hard time understanding whats going on...

Either a sacrifice for his masters, or a victim for his knowledge.

Financially speaking, credit card fraud is not in the same dimension as LIBOR fraud.

I would say that HNC, known as a “neural network” company, and DARPA beginning in 1998, have worked on developing “cortronic neural networks,” which would allow machines to interpret aural and visual stimuli to think like humans is more of an interesting angle to investigate here.

edit: but who knows?

His father is very good with calculations

Stop the madness!! This slaughter had nothing to do with his Dad. Good grief people. The Federal Reserve was all too aware of the LIBOR situation - did Geithner or Bernanke have something to do with the massacre as well? Wise up Reddit.

It's so funny watching conspiracies build. Taking bullshit and then stacking more bullshit on top of it. Till there's just a big collection of weird coincidences and false claims until people can tie their beliefs on. Fascinating.

Much like any other scientific hypothesis, which gets scrutinized & either collapses under its own bullshit or stands up to become a historically-recognized conspiracy. Thankfully, Woodward & Bernstein had no use for people like you. Unfortunately, we had no conspiracy theorists working at the Washington Post or NYTimes in 2001-2002, so instead we got both papers promoting WMD lies & missing the scoop on Enron & Tyco & Worldcom's criminal conspiracies. For which those corporations were criminally charged with: Conspiracy.

Superb.

Just like the holocaust conspiracy. That shit is air tight in heindsight.

Which Holocaust conspiracy? You're a Holocaust denier too? Or trying to smear anyone who calls Watergate a conspiracy a Holocaust denier?

Am I supposed to recognize a double-entendre in your misspelling of "hindsight"?

Some conspiracies are obviously bogus from the start. This is the first time I've seen one catch a blaze so fast. Thanks to r/conspiracy, I saw the inner workings. Thanks for the spelling correction.

Oh and no, I don't deny the holocaust. Watergate sure, Iran-contra scandal sure. Those are real conspiracies.