Anonymous is a CIA psyop. They blow up websites and attack government systems supposedly to fight against the man but in all reality they fuel the fire that calls for more internet regulations.

They're not doing much that can be considered significant (besides hacking government websites, not only U.S.A. websites).

The only thing I know about them is that they're out to do good for the internet! (I hope. :P)

Anonymous is CIA. Chaos brings order(elitism, government). Chaos(revolution, protest) is orchestrated by the top.

I do know this, the general theme I seem to grasp from Redditors is that most people think Anon is still just script kiddies and DDoS'ing random people. Not the case so much anymore.

https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews/ https://twitter.com/AnonymousIRC

You'd be surprised just how much world news goes through YourAnonNews Twitter, and despite their sometimes hypocritical nature, I think Anon is on our side.

People who claim CIA really confuse me, just seems like those are the people who truthfully feel like everyone is out to get them, and at that point I don't get why they even have the internet, a cellphone, etc.

There is a difference between the collective people refer to as Anonymous and those who are apart of the idea and the 'movement' of Anonymous. The hackers still believe in the idea, the movement of Anonymous, but those who are just 'foot soldiers' for the idea, aren't necessarily also hackers.

Anonymous is just a name. The name is being used by a loose knit organizations of hackers who are pro internet but it's also being used by the CIA and whoever else wants to spread disinformation.

The name could be used by anybody, and we have no way to know who.

exactly. I just suspect it's being used by at least those two entities, who knows

I don't think anything of Anonymous because I don't know who they are, don't know what they want, and don't know what they've accomplished. Sure, I've listened to some video and audio tapes of individuals talking who claim to be Anonymous, but since they are anonymous I have no way to know if they are who they say they are.

I agree; I think the thing people tend to overlook when thinking of "Anonymous" is that it is not necessarily an organized group of people. It is anyone on the internet who wishes to claim to be part of the hive mind that is "Anonymous." It's directly related to the chans (specifically 4chan) as I'm sure you already know, and if you look back to the pointless troll raids that took place on various websites such as habbo and the like; it's merely the participants who wish to involve themselves that make up "Anonymous"

Not discrediting the idea that government intelligence could have hijacked the idea to spread propaganda and catalyze their agenda; but for lack of a better way to put it, it's roots are "pure."

Maybe its roots are pure. I have no way to know that or anything else about those who claim to be Anonymous. As you point out, anyone on the Internet can claim to be a member of this headless organization. Its very anonymity renders its claims and pronouncements meaningless. I tend to just ignore Anonymous.

This all seems very reminiscent of historical social movements turned revolution such as the Peasant's Revolt in England and the French Revolution. Often, when the powers that be are brewing up something drastic, a powerful yet anonymous group that seems to have an incredible amount of funding and grass roots support begins dismantling the power structure before our very eyes.

Seeing as how they have yet to make any tangible change, I don't pay much attention to them, although one good thing about them is that at least they addressed the banker issue.

I'd just like to point out that we probably wouldn't know about TrapWire if it weren't for the Stratfor hack.

Sure, fine. All well and good. I'm looking at their track record: Big dramatic video, saying how they're gong to end this or fight that.. then.. crickets. Every time. Things go on as usual. Where's the action?

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Not really hating on them, it's just that they promise so much, yet deliver next to nothing. It makes me wonder what's really going on. Are they the great hope mankind needs, or are they false hope that we need no more of? If they made that tangible change I'd give them more points.

Yeah, forget most of what I said, haha, sorry. Read my edit.

Edit: I like how you framed the "are they <this> or <that>" and honestly, I think they're a bit of both. Hope in any form can have a powerful placebo effect, motivating more well-intentioned individuals to start getting their own acts together. If you know what I'm trying to say?

Yes I do. I think they are a bit of both too. Now if we could just see these swindling bankers go up the river, the public might have some hope and see that someone is on their side. Can the Anonymous make it happen?

Now that, no. I have no faith in them doing much of anything about corrupt bankers at all. The change in that arena is only going to come about through public education, awareness, and possibly a lot of action from 'higher up' as well. Just tonight I found an organization that sprung up almost overnight in my country protesting the banks and their shady practices and exploitation of 100-year-old laws and such. And these guys... Well, these guys I can trust because they aren't protesting behind masks, they're not kids (their chairman is mid-40s) and they're bringing real action and education to the local community. So far their protests are only like 30 people max but damn! So good to see people doing something about the real roots of so much of the poverty and corruption where I come from...

Nice.. Well I must say it's refreshing that crooks are being held accountable somewhere. In America, swindling of peoples' money is sadly allowed to happen. They make some noise about stopping it, but nothing really changes. And just when change is about to happen, oh look! another pointless scandal takes the spotlight off of it. It's disgusting how the media have gone from informing people to making a profit.

Haha, don't worry, the media serves that purpose here too, and everywhere else. Part of the reason I've always kind of liked what Anon are doing in terms of spreading news and information is for that same reason. i.e. they're not bound to any corporate entity or individual that 'owns' them and tells them what they can, and canNOT say. I'm also very much aware of how media functions in society than even most of /r/conspiracy - not trying to be immodest, but the reason I dropped out of my major in media studies was because the more I learnt about how journalism works... The less I wanted to be a journalist. And I really wanted to be a journalist.

I too dabbled in journalism in college, but once I found out the mechanics, I was really turned off.

Don't trust /u/Laurelai.

why not?

I cannot believe that this story isn't public knowledge yet. In fact, I can't believe Laurelai is still a moderator of any subreddit (currently r/Anonymous, but was for a time a mod of r/OWS). ... In fact, I can't believe Laurelai is still redditing.

Laurelai got busted by the Feds for being an Anonymous ringleader, but... they just let her (actually a 'him') go... to continue modding r/Anonymous (and was swept into an r/OWS invasion for a few days).

For details, just plop Laurelai into the reddit search box. Tinker with the "too many returns, pick a subreddit" options in new tabs. Sift, sort. Etc.

And, well, I have info from my mod account, too, but can't mention that.

actually no, a her.

what i know about her is she can be a big mean poo-poo head with her fascist SRS'ing that i don't like, but we're both on the same page when it comes to trans issues. (specifically, in this case, referring to a person as their appropriate identified noun. it's the same courtesy as calling someone by their name.)

but yes, i thank you for this bit of knowledge. i had no idea she was involved with anonymous.

actually no, a her.

You'd better get started with that search. I think you're about to have a big wake-up call.

-.-

Their logo with the roman civic crown (military decoration) makes suspicious of them because all conspiracies lead to Rome and the "behind the scenes" continuation of the Roman empire. But to understand this perspective takes a lot of historical and conspiracy research. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_Crown

Compare thee anonymous logo to the UN logo. Look familiar?

Sure, fine. All well and good. I'm looking at their track record: Big dramatic video, saying how they're gong to end this or fight that.. then.. crickets. Every time. Things go on as usual. Where's the action?