usually after 2 replies they run out of any intelligent arguments and refer to the "fuck you, you dont know shit" posts.

The more determined ones keep repeating their arguments like a broken record until you get tired and and either abandon the interaction or tell them to fuck off. These eight bullies pounded the same disinfo at anyone who objected (pretty much only me, so I took a 100 point comment karma beating the first day... and another 50 today). A couple of them were relentless. I told them to fuck off several times, but they refused to let up. Argument From Ridicule was their only argument: Sorcha Faal said that, so you have to dismiss it and never look at it again.

Reddit karma = $ 0:00

Disseminating info = PRICELESS!

I have a whole basket of upvotes.

Whatever shall I do with it?

I have 3 X as many, damned if I know...

Have a Pi.      ♨

The more determined ones keep repeating their arguments like a broken record until you get tired and and either abandon the interaction or tell them to fuck off.

Look in the mirror much? And feel free to throw me on that last because your Libor/holmes crap is just that.

These eight bullies pounded the same disinfo at anyone who objected (pretty much only me, so I took a 100 point comment karma beating the first day... and another 50 today).

Since I am one of those bullies, I like to make my case. What HomegrownTerran describes as disinfo, is the attempt to deconstruct disinformation. Disinformation which has been disseminated by Sorcha Faal and spreaded by lots of useful idiots. Not a single credible source has been presented which links the LIBOR scandal to Robert Holmes. Sorcha Faal made an initial claim which has been repeated again and again, but repetition of garbage is no verification that:

Robert Holmes planned to become a whistleblower.

Robert Holmes is scheduled to testify before an authorative body.

Robert Holmes was involved in Libor supervision, exposure or manipulation.

FICO, the company Robert Holmes works for had anything to do with either the obfuscation or the exposure of the LIBOR manipulation.

For stating these things and adding some further information HomegrownTerran attacked me on a personal level. He accused me of:

I spotted you a few days ago, /u/drunkenshrew. Spewing disinfo.

Meanwhile, you're one of the ones out here trying to cover up bank fraud.

/u/drunkenshrew and the 8 or 10 others actively burying this topic will eventually leave, and we'll be allowed to explore this ... unless the same people keep rearing their ugly faces every time the topic emerges, in which case we should have a good case to argue with the admins about gaming reddit. Meanwhile, I fight this futile battle against these cum garglers.

These were just some of the attacks which were directly aimed at me. But HGT has attacked other posters who disagree with him with smears like fuckers, vermin, “you have bought your account”

Apart from his offensive style, HGT fails miserably at some basic approaches which people who look into conspiracies and subversive information generally use. He does not go to the primary source and he fails to provide a motive and has no answer to the simple question “Qui bono?”.

Hearsay doesn't kick it for me. It seems to be enough for some subsribers of this subreddit, but HGT takes the level flimsy hearsay to a whole new level. He came up with this video to make his case that there is independent verification that LIBOR and Robert Holmes are somehow linked.

Watch this documentary and than look how the The Libor/Holmes connection is sourced [starts at 10:40 and goes to 12:40]. Not a single person, institution or other verifiable source is used. We hear only Mark Howitt aka LordDefiler, the maker of the video. He repeats claims he has read elsewhere on the internet. He uses a more or less blurry facebook screenshot [at 10:41] and then narrates - "this report says". This is were his info comes from.

But now the kicker. The narrator repeats the initial Sorcha Faal garbage verbatim.

[Edited to fix various links and grammar]

Since you refuse to stop masturbating your dead horse, hoping for a bucket full of cum all over your face and the exstacy of being dominated by a dead beast, I'll just copy/paste this one response every time you stalk another one of my comments (yeah, you're now stalking me. might want to check those rules in the sidebar, bitch -->)

You, and the other trolls and shills just like you, determined to bury this at any cost... you're demanding that we prove Sorcha Faal's claim (even though you don't necessarily phrase it in those exact words, you keep beating that dead horse).

The only thing that has to be demonstrated is the likelihood of him being a witness at LIBOR hearings.

If I mention that he worked at FICO, your shillery response is: "thousands of people worked for FICO. what about all them?"

If I mention that he's a programmer/software engineer, again: There are millions of those. what about them?

If I mention he's an expert in financial fraud, the list gets smaller, but: There are thousands of those. What about them?

If I mention that he's the author of a software which does financial predictive modeling, the list suddenly shrinks to a few dozen or less.

If I mention that he's also the author of software which detects financial fraud, the desperation sets in: But that's for credit cards, not for interest rate manipulation!

If I combine this all into one package and say he's all of those things... he suddenly becomes one of a tiny handful of people who could be considered an expert for the LIBOR case.

I don't have to connect Holmes or FICO to LIBOR - that would make him a suspect, not an expert witness in the area of tracking financial fraud.

Now get the fuck off my interent.

Since you refuse to stop masturbating your dead horse, hoping for a bucket full of cum all over your face and the exstacy of being dominated by a dead beast, I'll just copy/paste this one response every time you stalk another one of my comments (yeah, you're now stalking me. might want to check those rules in the sidebar, bitch -->)

I am not stalking you. You shouldn't be surprised that people who you call bullies and shills like to defend themselves against your slander.

While I cannot prove that you are actively engaged in gaming this subreddit, the mass of voting that follows you everywhere you go, hopping from thread to thread, is (IMHO) also highly suspect.

It's not slander if it's true.

the mass of voting that follows you everywhere you go, hopping from thread to thread, is (IMHO) also highly suspect.

No it isn't. I agree with him so I upvote his posts and downvote yours. Not because I disagree with you, but because you act like a belligerent moron.

I haven't been here long but to me it seems banal arguments that detract from the OP of threads and they are huge walls of text that talk about an insignificant detail.

If you haven't, read the guide to internet spies, I believe the link is on the right-->

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Mahatma Gandhi

if you want to know who rules you simply find out who you cannot criticize. -Voltaire

No problem can withstand the assault of sustained thinking. Voltaire

Bring it on.

Under attack from who or what?

Hasbara

Explaining it away since 1913.

People from /r/conspiratard targeting this subreddit and other posters.

And that's not to mention purchased accounts.

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= anyone who disagrees with him.

Good, more people will see the information. Maybe some will see the light.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/v/voltaire.html

We are basically Voltarian thinkers in this thread from what I can tell. This is a school of thought that everyone secretly likes and publicly groupthinks rationalizations to conform to social norms that actually do not exist.

Throw in a few paid schills to lead some ignorant people who have spent zero time researching and you have what we see today.

Frankly, answering schills with Voltaire quotes and answering ignorance with facts and access to new thoughts, with permission to go there is going to lead people to the truth.

There is probably something in the Art of War about not sending a volunteer army to fight a paid army that has more intelligence about the actual truth while the volunteers are still gathering data and determining the actual truth.

While the volunteers may be better intentioned and can see the insane reality ahead, to fight at this point is bad for the volunteers.

When you have a solid set of facts, bring it to an occupy wall street or a tea party rally and share your documents with people. Infiltrate the news by standing in the background and photobombing your info. (Obviously the anti-shill tactics.)

I have no idea what is true these days, that is why r/conspiracy is so awesomely fascinating. Including the memes and including the shills and whoever else wanders in and says whatever. After watching online poker scandals break over the years, those innocuous comments from schills, trolls, memes, and even guilty parties are the evidence that builds. If their are paid shills they are self defeating because they do not understand the internet. Their comments WILL be used against them in a court of law once the data aggregates to that point.

Sorry, that is quite a rant. I approve my own good advice.

What online poker scandal?

It is not limited to 1 scandal. For the last year there has been a new online poker scandal about every 2 months or so.

So they are not cheating the players...looks like they are laundering money, is that right?

Rabbit hole which I am not going to explain.

go to twoplustwo.com section "news views and gossip" and search cheating or scam. From players cheating players to sites cheating players to governments cheating sites.

In some way, I feel it is good that there is any attention at all.

The idea is that people will pay attention if and only if it's worth the effort.

Or, as P.T. Barnum once said:

"There is no bad publicity."

After two solid days of dealing with this invasion, I'm almost frustrated by this truth.

We must be onto something, if they're here to try to bury it.

For personal reasons I wouldn't call it a 'truth.'

I would call it an interpretation - one that seems reasonable.

I'd also say, it's an invasion of an internet forum. I speak for myself when I say: "I can spot bullshit a mile away and am not phased by it." I would encourage you to remind yourself that even if I was easily duped by spam it is my responsibility to think for myself. If the moderators of this sub have to tell the subscribers what to read - or what to think about what they read - then this sub is no better than r/politics.

Take heart. There are minds all up in this bitch. We may not be vocal, but we exist.

s/truth/truism

it's not, you are paranoid.

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Good rule of thumb, not an absolute.

Will they be killed by the bacteria??

It's actually truth that kills them.

You can't kill a spark in the minds of a revolution.

OK so what can we do?

Be aware that an invasion has occurred, adding additional fuel to this fire.

Cary on solder.

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Ron Paul!

Chemtrails

Fukushima

We didn't start the fire!

it's not, you are paranoid.