Los Desaparecidos:

[this list may not be comprehensive -- feel free to add]

• Barry Jennings: Former New York Housing Authority Emergency Coordinator – reported that he and Michael Hess had been blown back by an explosion inside Building 7. He said in an interview he heard explosions in WTC 7 before collapse. He also said he was stepping over bodies, which contradicted the government claim that nobody died in Building 7. Shortly after appearing in a BBC documentary, On August 19th 2008, two days before the release of the NIST Final Report on the collapse of WTC 7, Jennings was found dead in his home with three bullet entrance wounds in the back of his head. The death was ruled a suicide.

http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/e8c77e80-6911-4541-a6cc-9358a1ab120c

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LO5V2CJpzI

• Beverly Eckert: Lost her husband on 9/11. She was among the families organizing for disclosure and had filed suit against the House of Saud and the U.S. government. When she was offered money to stay silent, she refused. She died at age 57 in a commuter airplane crash on February 12, 2009. A week before he death she met with President Barack Obama as an advocate for those affected by 9/11.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6870794&page=1#.T02DW3JSS_Y

• Kenneth Johannemann – a janitor at the WTC complex, he reported seeing a massive explosions in the basement and upper floors of the twin towers. In September 2008 Kenneth died from a gunshot wound to the head – ruled a suicide.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2008-09-03/local/17905673_1_cell-phone-cat-maya

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egIrVyM3FGY

• David Wherly Jr. – On 9/11 Wherley was the commander in charge of the 113th Fighter Wing at Andrews Air Force base, in Maryland. After 9/11 he took order from Secret Service to dispatch a fleet of aircrafts to protect the White House. He played a role in ordering the tactics used by the U.S. government in response to the terrorist activity. On June 22, 2009 Wherley and his wife Ann boarded a Red Line Washington metro and the train car he was in was rear-ended at high speed. Nine people died including Wherley and his wife. Deadliest crash in the history of the Washington Metro.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/getthere/2009/06/victims_identities_coming_out.html

• Milton William Cooper – United States Navy officer, author, conspiracy theorist, and radio talk-show host

At 11:40 pm, November 5 2001, Apache County Sheriff’s deputies attempted to serve an arrest warrant at Cooper’s residence. Cooper allegedly fired on police, and deputies returned fire, striking and fatally wounding Cooper.

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/cooper_m.html

• Prasanna Kalahasthi: Wife of 9/11 Flight 11 Passenger – suicide by hanging:

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20136354,00.html

• David Graham: 9/11 researcher and dentist who reported seeing three 9/11 hijackers with Pakistani businessmen in Shreveport, Louisiana – Died September 2006 – poisoned with anti-freeze.

http://www.ksla.com/global/story.asp?s=7229970

• Paul Smith - flew the chopper in NYC for WABC-TV, as a news pilot. Run over (standing on the sidewalk) by a taxi-cab who swerved to avoid an unidentified black car.

http://911review.org/Media/helicopter_pilot_dead.html

• Michael H. Doran – a 9/11 victims lawyer - killed in a plane crash.

http://doranandmurphy.com/our-attorneys/michael-h-doran/

• Bertha Champagne: Longtime babysitter for Marvin Bush's family- Crushed to death by her own car in Marvin Bush’s driveway.

http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=3079

• Christopher Landis: Former Operations Manager for Safety Service Patrol for the Virginia Department of Transportation, Interviewed by makers of “The Pentacon.” Gave filmmakers a photo collection which pertained to the Pentagon attack) – Died from suicide.

• John P. O’Neill: FBI Counter-terrorism expert, who was obsessed with catching Osama Bin Laden. Suspected Clinton/Bush/FBI complicity in the cover-up and protection of Bin Laden. – He was transferred to a position in the WTC complex and died in the attack.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/

• Deborah Palfrey: Ran an escort service with 9/11 perpetrators as clients. A former NSA official noted that some of Palfrey’s call girls were being chauffeured by Sherlington Limousines to poker parties attended by former CIA director and co-chair of the Joint 9/11 Intelligence Inquiry Porter Goss. – Suicide by hanging.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4788703&page=1#.T02UTHJSS_Y

• Suzanne Jovin – Yale student who wrote a thesis about Osama Bin Laden. Stabbed to death by unknown suspect.

http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/j/suzanne_jovin/index.html

• Perry Kucinich – Brother of Congressman who advocated new 9/11 investigation – allegedly fell to his death.

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2007/12/perry_kucinich_younger_brother.html

• Salvatore Princiotta – 9/11 FDNY Firefighter from Ladder 9 – Murdered -

http://www.slideshare.net/VogelDenise/princiotta-salvatore-news-article-ofdeath-911firefighter-11709069

• Ezra Harel: Chairman of the Israeli Company That Handled Security for all 9/11 Airports – Died from a heart attack.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/business/ezra-harel-dies-of-heart-attack-1.106796

• Bruce Ivins – Respected Army Scientist linked to 9/11 “Anthrax” case – suicide from overdose.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25961053/ns/

I absolutely buy that some of these are ultra-fishy, and some of these were probably murdered, but I do have to point out a fewwww things...

"So here's this guy, he's got inside info, we better remove him from the picture."

"sure thing boss. I'll have 2 of my guys set it up next week."

"No. Wait until 2008."

Ah, you should read the post from Robert Steel AMA where he describes his opinion (he was a CIA spy and doesn't agree with the official story at all.). Here it is:

www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/yj2p2/i_am_amazons_1_nonfiction_reviewer_of_all_time_in/c5w2pcb

Also, yeah - here is one of the guys on the list explaining 911 in detail before his death:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTjPGy2k_U

Exactly. And additionally, how many people with information are there total? I count 18 people on this list. If there are 1000 people with information or connections, 18 people seems pretty statistically insignificant.

Keep it in mind, but don't let it consume you. Find more information.

Okay, I'm doing to start at the first one.

Barry Jennings.

Three bullet holes in the back of his head ruled a suicide.

Care to link a source on that?

Neither your video or the article says what you claim about his death.

AFAIK, the exact circumstances of his death have never been publicly revealed.

Apparently Dylan Avery (the director of Loose Change) hired a private investigator to look into it, but without success: the Investigator referred the case to the police, refunded his fee to Dylan, and told him never to contact him again.

However, we only have Dylan Avery's account to go on, so it's difficult to know what to make of it. I've never seen any corroborating evidence of what actually happened either with Jennings, or the investigator.

I'm surprised that no progress appears to have been made on this case for a number of years.

Framed in a certain light, that would seem suspicious.

I have an alternative theory. The investigator had no idea who Dylan Avery or Barry Jennings were.

He googles it. See all the conspiracy nonsense, and decided not to harass a grieving family. Refunds money. Reports Dylan to the police. And tell him not to contact him again.

I know. I know. My scenario is far fetched knowing the fame and fortune Dylan has achieved that someone might not have heard of him before accepting...

I actually think that's one of the more likely possibilities, but with the almost total lack of info, there's no real conclusion to be drawn. I'm just surprised no-one has settled it. Or perhaps the truth isn't out because it's just that simple, and the magical intrigue of the conspiracy would be lost.

(Certain high-profile individuals purportedly in the 9/11 movement, have a vested financial interest in keeping such stories alive IMO)

Gage paid himself something like 75k from 9/11 truth donations in 2009.

Not a bad gig if you can get it.

Total amount of money I've made? $0 I'm on the wrong team ;)

Source?

http://www2.guidestar.org/organizations/26-1532493/architects-engineers-9-11-truth.aspx#

80k in 2010, gave himself a raise.

990EZ tax forms

I don't see anything except their total revenue of $434,526. Assuming you are correct, 80k isn't much of a salary in San Francisco. Pretty consistent with running a non-profit organization. Can you explain why you brought this up? I'd like to see anyone else hire an architect for 80k.

The 990EZ tax form like I said. You know the big letters that say: Forms 990 from IRS

zero_iq said: Certain high-profile individuals purportedly in the 9/11 movement, have a vested financial interest in keeping such stories alive IMO

I just provided evidence that he has a financial stake in keeping it going.

I just provided evidence that he has a financial stake in keeping it going.

Nope, just evidence he runs a non profit org. Yeah, people are paid for their time.

Paying yourself 80k a year is direct financial stake in keeping it going.

So your saying he's in it for the money and not the truth?

Or maybe the investigator has an IQ over 50 and doesn't want to appear on this list too. An investigator would probably google their clients before signing them, you know - determine what sort of a job it's worth? It's called due diligence.

Yes, I'm sure he was afraid. After all Dylan still lives and breathes to this day with all his exposin' stuff.

Dylan didn't witness & doesn't have first hand testimony. Man it's getting shilly in here.

He is/was one of the major forces behind it. At the relative ease they off other officials, you think a broke college student would have been the easiest.

He is not a whistleblower, and being high profile makes him a risky target. If he was 'offed' it would simply bring attention to his cause. Simple stuff really.

Huh - 99% of the population doesn't know who the hell Dylan Avery or Barry Jennings are.

If he was "offed", it would simply bring no more attention to the cause than Barry Jennings' death did. Wouldn't the MSM just ignore it?

Speaking of Avery, what does he have to say about 911 truth these days? I'll save you the trouble of looking it up. Check out the last three paragraphs.

He says nobody cares anymore. People are too busy with apple apps to worry about complicated issues.

Yes, longtime baby sitter of Marvin Bush family is completely relevant, while Dylan Avery is irrelevant. They could have offed him a long time ago... but miraculously they let him live!

Discussions like these is why nobody takes the truth movement seriously.

I'm a sucker because I sit here and argue with you, smart people just see through the BS and move on.

Discussions like these is why nobody takes the truth movement seriously.

Why are you here? This forum is to discuss conspiracies and all you do is piss in the pool. My favorite example in the past 5 minutes:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/zf2oq/can_we_compile_a_full_list_of_known_whistle/c64k5rm

His death is shrouded in secrecy: http://jenningsmystery.com/

No cause of death has been made public, and the mainstream press has not even covered the death of this American hero.

But he clearly states that Jennings was shot in the head three times and it was a suicide.

If it hasn't been made public, how would he know with such certainty?

Also I don't understand why you would hold him in such regard when he doesn't believe in the conspiracy.

1) You are in conspiracy, if you are looking for an NYTimes expose you won't find it. That point was speculation, but clearly there is foul play involved when details of his death are not public.

2) Any evidence is most likely buried 6 feet deep along with Jennings. Solving the mystery requires a proper investigation with transparency.

3) The piece you posted was propaganda from the BBC, who had the amazing foresight to predict building 7 falling.

Question for you - How are you able to maintain activity 24/7 on reddit without any breaks? Your spend the bulk of your time in conspiracy & 911truth trying to hamper people seeking truth outside official accounts.

You say it is a mystery, he said is was a suicide. Which is it? That is why I was asking for a source as he clearly seems to have details of a suicide and three bullets.

There is another scenario that you aren't considering, that conspiracy theorists tortured this man in their desperate attempt to prove something he didn't agree with. So maybe the family wants privacy to keep you truth seekers away. I think you should also consider that possibility and I find that FAR more likely then foul play. I think the website you linked is clear evidence of this theory.

So let's score it:

Conspiracy Theroists harassing as evidenced by the very website you linked 1

Evidence of foul play 0

The firefighters knew it was likely to collapse because they saw the damage first hand and decided not to save the building. You say foresight, I say saw the evidence of a badly damaged building and fire not being suppressed in any way. A prediction from evidence isn't foresight. And you mean the news got facts wrong? That never happens.

Caffeine. Here I thought these ice tea drinks I have been buying didn't have any caffeine in them. I recently found out I was wrong. I drink way to many of the damned things.

Trying to hamper them? By giving them evidence that contradicts claims from people seeking the "truth"? Truth comes from all the evidence, not just the evidence that support your worldview.

I welcome any evidence that you have that contradicts my claims.

If you have any evidence about Barry's death, post it up! So far you are diluting the discussion with garbage like this:

conspiracy theorists tortured this man in their desperate attempt to prove something he didn't agree with

So, back on track - what information do you have that Barry's death was not suspicious? Why isn't there an investigation?

I don't have any evidence of Barry's death, but the original poster still has up there that he was shot three times into the back of the head and it was a suicide. So I was questioning his sources on that.

Oh, so you are allowed to make baseless arguments and I'm not?

My grandmother died a year ago. How come there wasn't an investigation?

Local police and the family members don't need an investigation. It is their choice not to play your silly game.

Why would the family want privacy? Let's start with the website you linked. I think that is a good reason to want privacy. Do you think it is fair to use his name to support something he doesn't want to be connected with? When does it turn into harassment? How many truthers do you think called up his work? How many truthers do you think called his home?

I think that is a damn good reason to want privacy. They very website you linked.

My grandmother died a year ago. How come there wasn't an investigation?

Did she have witness testimony of 911 foul play on record? How did she die?

Privacy? Maybe they don't want to end up like Jennings. The fact remains, he admitted seeing & witnessing MANY events that are not explained by the official account, and he ends up dead.

The police are afraid to end up like Jennings?

No, family members. Not outside the administration to kill Americans.

So the police would ignore evidence of foul play?

Police did nothing, dead man ignored.

You have no evidence they did nothing, you just assume so because they ignored the conspiracy.

You should include this source for William Cooper where he predicted 9/11 on radio several months ahead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTjPGy2k_U

suicide...'accident'....suicide....

seems legit.

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No it's a bad list, it provides incomplete sources with no proof and in all likelihood these deaths were just coincidental

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Why would the government wait 12 years to kill someone? Everything he wanted to say he could have said in that time

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You're trying to imply it.

Milton William Cooper

Cooper allegedly fired on police...

I'm sure the deputy who he shot in the head could tell us if it was "alleged".

Why would they arrest / kill someone with prior knowledge of 911?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTjPGy2k_U

Yes, the deputies were in on it too. right.

Suzanne Jovin: "...was found stabbed to death in December 1998." - I can't really see how this death could be connected to 9/11.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=12689

Was Suzanne Jovin -- like the heroic beauty in the new television show "Alias," -- recruited to be a spy early on in her Yale career? Was Van de Velde her controller, or just a very unlucky fellow, who got tarred and feathered for being her thesis advisor and who has been personally ruined by both the egg-sucking weasels of the Connecticut press and by Yale's leadership?

Suzanne Jovin was precisely the kind of bright, clever, and multi-lingual operative that any intelligence agency might want to have on its rolls. Who, then, recruited her? Was she working for some group -- kind of like the fictional SD-6 on "Alias" -- that was a renegade group and no longer loyal to the U.S.?

What other reason is there to kill a bright young woman, in the peak of her academic career, if she was not -- even just accidentally -- getting too close to the truth about Osama bin Laden, whatever that really, really is!?! Every murder brings with the possibility of discovery. Murder in the spy business is entirely too common to be remarkable, but it is always risky.

It's because she was basically like Jennifer Garner on Alias, because, hey wouldn't that be cool?

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Yeah, he's a commenter, not a whistle blower.

What's the story with Hunter S Thomson here? I haven't heard much of the details surrounding his death.

It is rumored he was about to publish an article exposing 9/11 truth.

He was also rumored to be writing an expose on a high-reaching DC pedophilia ring.

Edit: Another link about the alleged sex ring.

He left a note and killed himself. Not exactly surprising.

A bit more than that. He was on the phone with his wife, discussing the 9/11 story he was working on. Conversation went like this:

"That's a very good point, I should include it in the article. Excuse me for a moment"

BLAM

I've seen nothing from his wife that indicates that at all, only internet stories passed along with no other sources.

That's actually one of the more interesting aspects of this story. Their own stories are somewhat inconsistent, and there are no avowed witnesses to the act. The only witness present, was listening over a phone. And her depiction of events did develop over time.

Gunshots were reported, but his son later avowed this was a salute. He was also allowed unsupervised access to the body after the police arrived.

The firearm involved appeared not to have operated correctly.

That having been said, it is entirely feasible that the death certificate is correct. That that suicide note was genuine. That everything happened just as it's described on paper.

But feasibility isn't always truth, is it?

Better add Hemingway to the list if you are going to put the Good Doctor up there.

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They mean anyone who has died that had any remote connection with 9/11. You know because people never die.

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Sorry, I apologize for responding with what I thought was a reasonable answer.

As a peace offering I give you this video.

Barry Jennings

Barry Jennings doesn't think there was a conspiracy

Robert Steel, former CIA spy does

That was an interesting AMA.

My favorite part is no proof he actually worked for the CIA. His wikipedia page provides no proof.

If you can find me source that he actually worked for the CIA, from someone other then Robert Steele himself, I would like to see it.

Sure: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/12/how-to-restore/

If you actually check the source of that article he is listed as:

Robert D. Steele, President, Open Source Solutions Group

In other words, there is still no evidence that he was CIA outside saying he was.

If you read the first sentence:

In the mid ’90s, Robert Steele, a former-CIA officer

Oh yeah spies usually are listed in wikipedia under CIA SPIES.

I've done some more digging on Robert Steele. While I haven't found irrefutable proof, I have found enough reputable sources to believe he was very likely in the CIA like he said he was.

Point conceded.

Well I'm pleasantly surprised, up voted.

Like I said, there is no evidence other then him saying that he was.

It is an article claiming he was, but provides no evidence.

Of course there is no wikipedia of CIA spies, which is why anyone can claim they are former CIA without a shred of evidence or proof.

Barry Jennings was a planted shill.

Any discussion about the fact that it's been eleven years and that's a lot of time for people to die?

Why don't you do this thread a service and point out the ones that are natural causes?

Do people only die from "natural" causes? How do you define "natural"?

Speaking of natural - how do you get up-votes within seconds of your post? Pretty popular dude!

Use Google to define "natural", it's pretty good for seeking definitions.

In a world where everyone owns a car, why wouldn't a car accident be considered "natural" for example?

How about poisoned with anti-freeze, that natural? Maybe he thought it was kool-aid, so yeah I guess that's natural.

I have some reading for you:

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/anomaly-hunting/

We need to look into all these mysterious deaths going on in this country. I hear hey publish them in some kind of controlled media called, a newspaper. Yeah, I know that was my reaction. Why won't some one reopen the investigation! Art Modell died, he was only 87, people like him usually live to be to 110. He was shot three times in the back of the head. I have proof that 9/11 was caused by diehard browns fans. They were angry at the team move to Baltimore and changed their name to The Ravens. Ravens, planes! It all makes sense! They both fly! Reopen the investigation!

If you can believe all that.

Bertha Champagne, employee of Marvin Bush.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._O'Neill

Susan Landauer - CIA asset - go between Iraq and Washington gives detail about foreknowledge about the attacks, and heard about the trucks being recorded on video arriving at WTC

http://listverse.com/2011/08/18/top-10-witnesses-who-died-suddenly/

David Wherley Jr.

Someone should also do a list of the experts researching the BP oil spill who either died disappeared or had their reputations sullied.

I'd also like to see a list of deaded biologists and such. There are a lot of those too.

August 19, 2008 Barry Jennings dies.

November 20, 2008 Final NIST report on Building Seven released.

A sample of what he reported.

"When they finally got to us, and they took us down to what they called the lobby, because when I asked them, I said "Where are we?" He said, "This was the lobby." And I said, "You got to be kidding me." Total ruins. Keep in mind, when I came in there, the lobby had nice escalators--it was a huge lobby. And for me to see what I saw was unbelievable."

..."I know what I heard I heard explosions,” said Jennings,"

"And the firefighter who took us down kept saying, "Do not look down." I kept saying, "Why?" We were stepping over people. And you know when you can feel when you are stepping over people."

Barry Jennings

Michael Hess was with him.

Barry Jennings himself disagrees with you. See my link.

And Michael Hess has never supported what Barry Jennings said he saw.

They're watching....

Hey we know the government have been involved in numerous conspiraces since they where founded but to think they where behind another one is just crazy! I mean some of the conspiracies they where involved in are now public knowledge, are you really trying to tell me they are involved in more that are still kept secret? You're insane!

/ sarcasim

With 9/11, I always come back to 4 questions.

1. Where are the black boxes? We've found them at almost if not all other plane wrecks.
2. Where is the $2.3 Trillion that was reported missing by Donald Rumsfeld on September 10, 2001?
3. Why is it we have only been allowed to see the footage from only 1 of the possible 89 cameras (I believe 89 is the right number) watching the Pentagon parking lot that day?
4. In the mid 1970's a massive fire causing a backdraft in one of the WTC's engulfed several floors, however, the building did not collapse on itself. Why?

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Start with the owner Silverstein who says that he was phoned in his car on the way to the office by his wife telling him he had a dentist appointment. So it is just peculiar that of all days, she decides that this day is the day to make him a dentist appointment.

Truther reading comprehension fail:

Maybe you could wait until he becomes a whistle-blower. And then once he is, maybe you could wait until he's dead.

"truther"

get out

You say it is a mystery, he said is was a suicide. Which is it? That is why I was asking for a source as he clearly seems to have details of a suicide and three bullets.

There is another scenario that you aren't considering, that conspiracy theorists tortured this man in their desperate attempt to prove something he didn't agree with. So maybe the family wants privacy to keep you truth seekers away. I think you should also consider that possibility and I find that FAR more likely then foul play. I think the website you linked is clear evidence of this theory.

So let's score it:

Conspiracy Theroists harassing as evidenced by the very website you linked 1

Evidence of foul play 0

The firefighters knew it was likely to collapse because they saw the damage first hand and decided not to save the building. You say foresight, I say saw the evidence of a badly damaged building and fire not being suppressed in any way. A prediction from evidence isn't foresight. And you mean the news got facts wrong? That never happens.

Caffeine. Here I thought these ice tea drinks I have been buying didn't have any caffeine in them. I recently found out I was wrong. I drink way to many of the damned things.

Trying to hamper them? By giving them evidence that contradicts claims from people seeking the "truth"? Truth comes from all the evidence, not just the evidence that support your worldview.

I welcome any evidence that you have that contradicts my claims.