I think this is the Elite last plan if they can't succed trough corruption,FED etc.

Succeed in what exactly? They already apparently control the world. What more do they need?

A New World Order.

They aren't full in charge they are controlling most things but not everything.

So what don't they control?

You and me.

In order to maintain the size of the current ruling class, more profits must be had. But we have exceeded the age where both human rights and the level of profitability that can be had from adhering to human rights is acceptable for supplanting the elites with their needs.

And so, they work to get control of you and me, so that we will agree that we have no rights as human beings. The elite own everything but our souls, and would have us submit to indefinite slavery to allow them to maintain their way of life - at the expense of your own.

But I thought we were already slaves to them through the financial system? Lots of companies make questionable choices regarding human rights in the name of profit but to assume its required is silly since the vast majority don't do it nor need to.

Do you bank? Or live in a country? Work for a company? According to all these theories I'm reading here you're already under their power.

Also who are the elite? How many of them are there?

Being part of a shit society but realising it to be so is better than living a lie, which millions do every day.

Why is it better to know you're in a prison of your own choosing(If you know all this and still live in modern society thats your choice) than to not know?

So you can live a life with a pure psyche and not be run down with all the shit we are pumped with. For the betterment of global consciousness for those of us who experience it.

Because if you know you are in a prison then at least there is SOME chance of your escaping or having the proper mentality to be in the world, but not OF the world. If you don't know and have no idea whatsoever, then there is a much more likely chance that you will take for granted the horrible state that you are in as WHAT YOU ARE and how things "should" be, and will thereby 1) likely never do anything to get yourself out of a situation that there actually is a chance you could get out of if you were but to try, and 2) you will likely simply rot in the shitty state that you find yourself in.

So they apparently control everything of power in the world and you still think you have a way to escape? Either you don't believe one or the other.

What is shitty about the world to you? Do you not have food? Access to unimaginable bounties of data? Shelter? What do you really lack for that you feel makes this a shitty state of life?

Or is it just that you're jealous of rich people and have to find a way to convince yourself that they are evil so you can feel happy about having less material wealth than them? Masking your own built in greed?

So they apparently control everything of power in the world and you still think you have a way to escape?

They do not control everything of power in the world. I don't know where you got that idea from, but it is incorrect.

Either you don't believe one or the other.

I tend to not "believe" anything really. I work hard at staying away from belief. I have an understanding - something much greater - that they don't control everything in the world.

What is shitty about the world to you?

There isn't enough room on here to answer that. Neither you nor I have the patience to really go through that answer.

Do you not have food?

Yes.

Access to unimaginable bounties of data?

Lots of data? yes. "Unimaginable bounties" of it? No.

Shelter?

Yes.

What do you really lack for that you feel makes this a shitty state of life?

The idea that you would think or even insinuate that the few things you mentioned here are sufficient to keep any and everyone who has those things from feeling shitty about the world is enough to keep me from talking to you about my experiences, for it seems likely that you would simply not understand them.

Or is it just that you're jealous of rich people and have to find a way to convince yourself that they are evil so you can feel happy about having less material wealth than them? Masking your own built in greed?

This is an extremely shallow assumption on your part. It indicates a deep, deep chasm of ignorance - a very real lack of awareness that requires much more help at fixing than I am willing to provide here.

So what do you understand them to control and how do you know they control that? What is their goal or purpose?

You don't consider the internet to be full of unimaginable bounties of data? Serious? You have almost all the scientific learning of human history available anywhere you go plus so very much more. What more could you possibly expect?

So what do you understand them to control and how do you know they control that?

They being TPTB? Is that what you're asking? What do TPTB control? What kind of a question is this exactly? Is it a trolling question or a real inquiry? If it's a trolling question, then neither shall I answer it, nor shall I persist much longer in this conversation. If it's a real inquiry, then it indicates that you yourself are unaware of the extent to which this society is controlled and contrived. If you are unaware of that fact, then, again, I really don't have enough time or patience to walk you through all the many examples that exist on this planet over the course of current recorded history showing the many FFs and contrivances that have occurred specifically designed to covertly manipulate the populace.

What is their goal or purpose?

I cannot say that I know for sure what exactly it is. That I know that there is contrivance going on does not necessarily have to include a knowledge of exactly what that contrivance is or what its specific goals are.

I, of course, have various ideas as to what the goals are - some of which are well based and have a foundation of solid research to back them up, others of which are more speculative on my part - but what specifically is their goal is something so convoluted and complex that I don't think anyone would be well-advised in alleging that they have "the answer".

You don't consider the internet to be full of unimaginable bounties of data?

Of course not. If it's on the internet, it's OBVIOUSLY been imagined by at least someone. That much is simply logical.

Serious?

Yes. Serious.

You have almost all the scientific learning of human history available anywhere

There is much information indicating that this is far from the truth and that human civilization, contrary to the rosy perspective that most people are indoctrinated to believe, has in fact been in a state of not evolution but devolution for quite a long time now.

plus so very much more. What more could you possibly expect?

Truth that is more readily available and accessible to all.

This is by far nowhere near the case on this planet.

Yes, I'm unaware, so enlighten me to who you know TPTB are that are working together for a world governance or other purpose? Or are they conflicting power centres?

There is much information indicating that this is far from the truth and that human civilization, contrary to the rosy perspective that most people are indoctrinated to believe, has in fact been in a state of not evolution but devolution for quite a long time now.

Devolution how? Physically? Mentally? Technology wise?

Yes, I'm unaware, so enlighten me

Nope.

Devolution how? Physically? Mentally? Technology wise?

Mostly mentally, emotionally, and spiritually, but definitely physically and technologically as well.

See, you're just another one of the boring no proof people here. You make tons of fanciful claims about not having believe but knowledge and etc then when asked to back them up or provide proof you just say no or look it up yourself. You're a plague, why are you even here? Do you just come to try and live in an echo chamber to make yourself feel better about your belief structure?

See, you're just another one of the boring no proof people here.

Okay. If that's how you feel, why do you keep "wasting your time" continuing to respond here? You yourself have proven yourself to be one of the many that dogmatically naysay data regardless of what's provided, so why waste my time with someone like you?

You make tons of fanciful claims about not having believe but knowledge and etc then when asked to back them up or provide proof you just say no or look it up yourself.

Awww. I'm sorry that you're not spoonfed the information that exists in Gerber baby formula manner so that you can ingest it like a dutiful sheep. It seems to really get you upset when you're not given information in a manner that you can unquestioningly digest. I guess you're just too used to the drivel you call "science" to understand what true critical assessment and responsibility is. Sorry to butt hurt you, little baby.

Don't worry. I won't bother wasting my time any more with you - scaring you by making you have to actually think (gasp! no!) lol

Go ahead and feel better about yourself by having the last word, son. :)

I guess you just don't understand what its like to not be a sheep. I question sources. You only question data from certain sources. You are no different that someone that just follows the MSM.

That is our difference.

You want now a complete list or what?

practical every US President,Mainstream Media,Major Banks,different Foundations,UN,CFR,Trilateral Commisson, NATO to a big extend, European Union,China to a big extend, Russia more or less.

They are holding the major key figures in Companys/Goverment and can so set their Agenda.

So those people are all part of the conspiracy or outside of their realm? Because I asked for what you believe they DON'T control. Since judging by your list it would be a very small list indeed.

a conspiracy controlling the administration of an organization is different than all the members of that organization being complicit in the conspiracy.

That doesn't answer my question at all.

he answered your question by giving you the inverse of your request: a partial list of involved parties, all but one of which are organizations of people.

you then asked him, "so those people are all part of the conspiracy or outside of their realm?"

and then i clarified that only the administration of an organization has to be knowingly complicit to gain the cooperation of its members, and in effect, guide the actions of the organization. provided, of course, that the hidden nature of the required cooperation does not become obvious and objectionable to the members of the organization...

I asked him who they didn't control. He gave a list of people but then indicated that they were under their control. I asked him to clarify if they were or weren't under their control. Nothing to do with knowledge of that control or conspiracy just inclusion.

then i guess the two of you are talking at cross purposes with each other. he is trying to describe the structure of a system of control to you, and you seem to be inferring, by extension, that he believes everyone is complicit.

you're essentially asking for a list of everyone who's a good person...he is saying, in so many words, "well, i don't know all of those, but the people running these definitely aren't."

No, hes saying they control almost everything but they are missing key points. I am asking which ones.

He's implied almost everyone is under the control of a bad person. I'm asking who isn't and possibly why not. Then he's given no reason for why he believes some places are and others aren't.

you're opening a can of worms with that question, that's kind of infinite. many people have participated to some degree, in different capacities, in a manner of speaking, in ripping at the flesh of society, through fraud, sale of harmful products, pollution, etc.. at that level of vagueness, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people. when you're talking about people who are actively complicit in a conspiracy to control the whole society, all of a sudden you're talking about only a few thousand, usually with isolated roles.

If you want to keep splitting hairs have at it. It's boring though and doesn't actually answer any questions. You keep posting your random replies though.

what is it exactly that you want to know?

Like i said Asia,Russia aren't full controlled.

Most People are compartmentalized so they don't need to control everyone.

Example you know as journalist you can't write about 9/11 is a inside job because this would get you fired.

Where did you say that? How do you know they aren't fully controlled? What parts of Asia? It's a big place you know full of lots of countries.

Do you know many journalists? How do you know writing about that would get you fired? Do you have any examples of cases where this has happened?

China to a big extend, Russia more or less.

Make some own research i can't list you everthing or i would be tomorow still here.

How do you know writing about that would get you fired?

common sense.

So you can't answer any of the questions I ask which should be easy to answer if you actually had any proof?

Just as I expected.

There is no proof there is evidence.

If you can't see how a journalist gets fired for talking outside the mainstream you are either complete living not in the real world or you are just playing dumb.

Make your own research but you are probably to lazy.

I have no intrest talking with you again if you can't do some research for yourself.

Ok so what evidence besides unbacked up claims do you have?

So I'm the dumb one for not believing a claim that you, a random person has made on a website with absolutely no proof? So I should just follow you like a sheep then to be smart?

You seem to believe everything to read online with little care for proof or evidence other than your own personal believes and a strong love of confirmation bias. So with that in mind "You will go find me proof or evidence that is more than just one mans words".

I'll wait here.

Dont expect an answer. He's the type of nut that just believes anything he is told. Basing your knowledge of facts on "common sense" isnt very logical. For instance the dude who released the Pentagon papers didnt get fired, in fact he became a national icon. The logic is all against him and he still claims truth. Dont worry about a response this guy is a waste of time.

You won't find proof there, but based on your initial question you might be interested in this

I found the "Hidden Hand talks" amazingly fascinating.

Did you happen to also look into the mentionned law of one ?

I'm currently on Book 49 of 106. Definitely LOTS of material to get through on it, so I'm doing it in a piecemeal manner, but going through it via the method that I linked here kind of allows me to actually listen to it and then read along if there are any areas that I want to go through again - so it works out.

A lot of the information in The Ra Material certainly does indeed mirror what HH said - so much so that I wondered for a moment if HH himself didn't just actually steal the material (or at least mirror the general "feel" of it) from The Law Of One and use it for his own stuff. Honestly, I actually don't get the feeling that he did, however. Especially when I came across information like this long video right here that, in its own way and in various areas, absolutely corroborates much of the information that both HH and The Ra Material mentioned.

That last link I included is both very long AND has a bit of stuff that I actually don't agree with at all. It's also a bit dated and the production value definitely comes across as a bit "cheesy". However, there is enough interesting corollary information between what is said in it and the information contained in both HH's data and The Ra Material that it leads me to feel that there is indeed at least some significant level of truth in much of what HH mentioned.

It's all about cross-referencing the material and data you find. If you have various disparaging, unconnected sources all mentioning similar things, then it gives the veracity of information that's being imparted a LOT more weight and credibility.

Thank you for the link, I hope I can free up some time this weekend to see it all.

I'm also at about part 40; I actually bought the books because that computerized audio drives me crazy after a while and I sit in front of a computer all day to begin with, so reading hardcopy is refreshing to me.

As you mentionned, doing personal research is the only road to comprehension.

However, i'm beginning to struggle at this level and I would like to run something by you.

It just doesn't compute to me that, according to the data, people that won't ascend (positvely or negatively) will have a mystical experience/dream and wake up as if nothing happened. How could they wake up as if nothing happened if let's say 1 person 10 should be gone.

I haven't met many people that made it this far, so I'm curious about your opinion.

that computerized audio drives me crazy after a while and I sit in front of a computer all day to begin with, so reading hardcopy is refreshing to me.

I can definitely understand that.

I am more accustomed to reading an actual, physical book in front of me and not on a computer as well. However, the fact that 1) the link at least has a MILDLY tolerable computerized voice reciting the words slightly helps - and I actually otherwise despise computerized voices. I think they sound utterly stupid, and simply don't listen to them otherwise. Also, 2) I'm poor and cheap so I didn't look into how much it would cost to actually buy the books. Last but not least, 3) I've decided to allow myself to be a bit lazy and just passively listen to the text as opposed to actually read it (which, ultimately, gives you a lot of the same information anyway since you are going through the words themselves). These are all factors that have ultimately caused me to opt for the particular method I'm using to go through the material as of late. :)

It just doesn't compute to me that, according to the data, people that won't ascend (positvely or negatively) will have a mystical experience/dream and wake up as if nothing happened. How could they wake up as if nothing happened if let's say 1 person 10 should be gone.

Yes. That indeed seems like a point of particular contention.

Here's a breakdown of what will happen to my limited understanding:

• About a third of humanity whose general energy is something like 54% or more "service to others" will go to a 4th density positive realm at some other location in the galaxy or even further beyond in the cosmos where literally everyone will have greatly advanced abilities, understanding, connection etc.

• About another third (? - Not sure about the exact percentage on this one - don't know if it's a third or more or less) who are something like 91% or more "service to self" will go to a 3d density negative area/planet somewhere else in the galaxy or further out in the cosmos which will be practically indistinguishable from planet Earth, but where the negative crap that exists on this planet will not only continue, but actually get much, much worse. This will give those on that planet the opportunity to see the effects of a "service to self" way of being and they will get the opportunity to work their way through such a realm.

• The remainder of the population will remain here on this planet, but will undergo a temporary spell within which they will enter a state of suspended animation of sorts, have a type of mystical experience letting them know what awaits them as they progress further along, and will then wake up with no conscious recollection of the experience, yet feeling a sense of wonder and renewed spiritual vigor as the experience will indeed still be influencing and effecting them subconsciously.

The approximate number of people that, according to this theory, will undergo this last type of transformation will either be a third of the entire human population of approximately 7 billion (i.e. roughly 2-2.5 billion), or it will actually be more people if my estimation regarding the number of people that will go to 3d density negative was overestimated and the number going there is actually less.

Either way, it is fair to say that, according to this theory, there will be a significant reduction in the number of humans that are on this planet - going from about 7 billion to less than 3 billion.

This is something that pretty much EVERYONE will notice right? Right. It would definitely seem so.

Okay...so how does one actually account for that drastic reduction right? That is the question you're asking and trying to get at/resolve in your head. This seems to be a bit of an issue or problem to me as well. My mind has the capability of being a very benefit of the doubt giving one when it wants to be, however. Not necessarily "incredulous", but "benefit of the doubt" giving. I like to try to imagine what circumstances would indeed need to occur for a thing to even possibly take place or be true in this manner. With that in mind, I could imagine that either there might be some sort of major war or catastrophe - flood, disease, famine - that would wipe out a TON of the population.

The thing with this theory, however, is that - given that today is officially December 1st - it would seem that we would have about 20 days until all this happens...and if it really WERE to be any one of these things like disease, famine, etc sufficient to wipe out THAT many people from the face of this planet (whether they actually die or go to another realm/density, who knows)...then one would think that we as a people would have ALREADY begun getting at least some kinds of signs or something that "shit's about to hit the fan" in a way that no one currently on this planet has ever previously experienced since we ARE that close to the actual date right?

And well...I don't know about you, but my life seems about as normal and average and mundane as it's ever previously been. There doesn't seem to be anything different "feeling" about things to me. Perhaps we're all just a week or so away from "things" finally beginning to happen, and perhaps I'm just not a very sensitive type, but - again - I don't feel anything too particularly different inside of me or in the environment around me that leads me to believe that this life will be anything any different than "an average life" where I live and eventually die.

Another thought that occurs to me regarding just how something like this could be possible is that, well, birds of a feather flock together right? That means that it is likely that the circle of associates, acquaintances, friends, loved, ones, etc that people keep are likely ALL in the same "group type" that will move toward one realm or the other. Perhaps the change might not be all THAT noticeable if you AND your entire family and friends all end up in the same place, right? This way, the change(s) can occur and many might not even notice it because their life hasn't really changed all that much...because EVERYONE in their family/circle moved along with them and are still around.

Even so, however, it seems that one should notice some changes, right? You would think that sooner or later you would find out that - as you turn on the TV and/or go on Youtube - two thirds of the entire population of EARTH is gone.

Yes. Indeed this is an issue that I've questioned as well.

The good news is that we'll all find out in about 20 days what if anything is going to happen. :)

Thank you for the link. I've not read it all(Down to where he starts talking about the mayan calendar). My question is, if their lord proclaims that they must communicate with the public regularly why has it only been done 3 times and always to conspiracy websites? He says they do it to only target people that are already open but that sounds like a bit of a cop out to me.

Have you read the whole thing? Any concrete points in it that you think would be of interest to me further down(predictions or details about how they control stuff?).

What I can tell you without being dismissed is that a while ago I stumbled upon the link I gave you, after having been in "monitoring mode" for some time prior to it.

Meaning that I felt like I looked up most that was available about all kinds of these fringe subjects, from nwo to aliens (which apparantly always ends up the spiritual .. think project chemelot).

The interview, abstract and full of plotholes as it may be, seemed to tie a lot of things together and the general concept which is being communicated fits as a framework on most things I can think of.

FYI: after that, currently, I started looking into the mentionned ra channelings. It is extremely long, abstract and requires a truckload of salt. I'm reading it slowly because even with the objective of entertaining an idea without accepting it, it's quite heavy to take in.

Bottom line: Just sharing some of the rare possible answers which I found about "beyond the nwo".

Ignore is bliss might apply.

Also notice the picture on the right.

:)

How about Amber Lyon? She was pretty vocal about it.

Remind me who controls the NWO again? Jews, Illuminati, UN, USA, Zionists, Fed. reserve, Rothschild, Catholic Church, etc?

Globalist or the "Elite" they most famous members are Rockfeller Family,Rothschild Family,Bush Family etc.

I think their last plan would be to take everything down with them

Here's another one. Bill Cooper discusses how he was originally led to believe an extraterrestrial presence was real, in his case by being shown false evidence by higher ups during his military service, but that, over time, he came to realize this evidence was shown to him intentionally, in order that he would go on and proclaim the extraterrestrials were real, himself believing it was true. In other words: he was set up to be a phony whistleblower, to trick people.

I don't merely entertain this idea: I am actively watching for it to begin.

What specifically are you watching for?

I don't know. Aliens? Any pseudo-reason to control mass conglomerations of people?

Well, I think a monetary collapse will come first which would definitely bring about chaos on a massive scale here in the US. As far as my research goes, the US was set up to fail from the start of the "13" original colonies..13 because we all know the significance of the number 13. If you don't, here is a breakdown of the bloodlines. The US is essentially Babylon, set up for destruction for the bringing about of the New World Order. (if I am wrong please correct me, but this is just from my understanding of my research).

I would agree that the US is a modern Babylonian empire but I disagree that it was initially set up to become that. The founding fathers such as Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, and Thomas Jefferson seem to have had a very different ideal in mind than what the US became. The character of the US changed fundamentally when its currency has appropriated by the financial elite.

The negative associations with the number 13 are a modern superstition. If you go back further, for example by examining the significance of the number 13 in Mayan cosmology (Hunbatz Men - The 8 Calendars of the Maya) or in Hebrew biblical gematria (Rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh's writings and lectures on the numbers 13, 7, and 137), a very different meaning emerges.

,The alien "invasion" already happened. ETs walk among us. If anything they'll fake a war with the ET's, but really we can't fuck with them cause their ships are the size of planets and there's over 12 trillion of them. Disclosure IS coming tho, so don't piss yourself when it does. If the ET's meant us harm, it was in a different timeline where we no longer exist.

I just had a flashback to the Summer Olympics

I thought they would have done this during the 2012 Olympics as well but, then I figured it would happen when the most amount of turmoil was going on just to throw the world off even more.

You guys remember that GIANT UFO at the 2012 Olympic Games? Oh wait.. that was a blimp, nvm...

Why would they screw with the Olympics, this is one of their flagship breads-and-circuses. Face it, there may be a few people yelling on the internet but out in the world a vast majority of people are actively and happily working hard every day to prop the feudal system up. There is no need for an alien false flag.

Maybe all the SAM missiles they had deployed was to shoot down a fake alien encounter? It may seam a bit over the top for a terrorist attack but maybe it wasn't intended for terrorists?

Rik Clay

Just wondering...what would this achieve?

• Government covertly sets up alien FF.

• "Aliens" (i.e. the government masquerading as ETs unbeknownst to a dumb, unsuspecting public) start killing everyone left and right.

• The public freaks out. Everyone absolutely SCCREEEAAAMS for the government with its big guns and ammo to help and protect them.

• The government says "Okay, people! We'll absolutely help you against this terrible threat! However, in order for us to help you, you must allow us to do 'X, Y, & Z'!"

• The public says "Yes yes yes!! Whatever! Do it already! Just make the mean aliens stop and go away!!"

• The government does "X, Y, & Z", shoos the aliens (that they created) away, and everyone celebrates the "freeing of the human race".

Woo hoo!

However, after the dust has settled, the population comes to realize that the "X, Y, & Z" they agreed to involved involuntarily tagging everyone with a microchip that not only tracks and monitors your every moment in life, but can essentially "shut you off" (i.e. kill you) for whatever reason TPTB choose or decide.

Welcome to the NWO, courtesy of an "Alien Invasion" FF that TPTB got the public to buy into and seek "help" from.

Think about it as a 911 from space.

Rinse and repeat.

Also population control/reduction.

Yes, sir. This is also very correct. Forgot that one. Thanks.

Also the threat of aliens could always be kept alive, there never has to be a final victory.

One really good way to combat that is with an aware public but, alas, that's the catch: Most aren't aware.

Depends on your perspective, whether it's a religious/simple control agenda or genuine fear for people losing their minds and perspective on the thought of aliens.

I personally think the alien agenda is of demonic/religious agenda. Just read Patrick Herons' book "Return of the Anti Chris and The New World Order" He explains through the scripture of the Bible of a new world order, and this alien reveal as merely a by-product of the end times.

VEEEEEErrry relevant

Thank you for this, as I don't have much time to search through the history of r/conspiracy as much as I'd like..very busy IRL. Work is a bitch.

No worries. Cheers. :)

This was a plan of the Elite. The latest news on this is that it has failed and they won't be able to implement it.

Latest news? Please let us know where this news comes from.

divinecosmos.com

why has it failed? And what could be the alternative?

information porosity and a moral awakening among their 'subjects'. it's harder to suppress the leaks when the peasants realize that the emperor has no clothes (or is a reptilian hybrid shapeshifter).

So the reason for not staging a fake alien invasion is because the real invading aliens cannot hide the fact that they are invading aliens?

:/ You know you sound insane right?

we need a sarcasm font.

You need to remember your /s :/

wait...that works?

The hardware for the Alien False Flag has supposedly been destroyed by benevolent ETs.

Check out Bill Cooper, Behold a pale horse

I'm sorry but are you really using that Olympic ceremony as an encounter with a UFO? Just from watching the video I learned that it was designed by Bob Gurr and weighs two tons.

Top link on a Google search: http://articles.latimes.com/2009/aug/12/sports/sp-wolper-olympics12

He's not using the video so much as an actual alien encounter, moreso as a predictive programming event.

If you're not familiar with predictive programming; it's where the elites essentially make their plan public by revealing details in TV shows/movies/public events that are perceived at the time to be no more than part of the plot, but eventually come true in reality.

Precisely what I am getting at, IDCimSTRONGERtnUinRL, thank you for your response. I need to make a post on predictive programming...and I would like all of r/conspiracy to join in the post when I make it.

PM me. I'd love to talk about that.

You should use predictive programming beforehand to promote your coming post on predictive programming.

/yo-dawg

Haha, glad someone caught on to what I was getting at.

I understand predictive programming, but I also understand that this was an Olympic ceremony in Hollywood in the mid-eighties. Return of the Jedi had come out the year before, they even used the music from 2001. In my mind this was about using what was already in people's heads from pop culture at the time and using special effects to "wow" them. I get your point but I don't feel PP was the goal with this particular instance.

And it very well may not have been. All things are left open to interpretation.

I was just pointing out that OP was using that video in the sense of PP and not a real life alien encounter.

Wouldn't it be a bit soon ?

I think they would hold on to that move until there has been more unification and it could be useful in accepting a more global defense force.

In what actual way are any of the items quoted by your summary related?

I mean, other than the fact that you have a pre-existing idea which you want to support, so have looked for singular items that might support it.

You guys remember that GIANT UFO at the 2012 Olympic Games? Oh wait.. that was a blimp, nvm...

Like i said Asia,Russia aren't full controlled.

Most People are compartmentalized so they don't need to control everyone.

Example you know as journalist you can't write about 9/11 is a inside job because this would get you fired.

Why would they screw with the Olympics, this is one of their flagship breads-and-circuses. Face it, there may be a few people yelling on the internet but out in the world a vast majority of people are actively and happily working hard every day to prop the feudal system up. There is no need for an alien false flag.

Maybe all the SAM missiles they had deployed was to shoot down a fake alien encounter? It may seam a bit over the top for a terrorist attack but maybe it wasn't intended for terrorists?

I would agree that the US is a modern Babylonian empire but I disagree that it was initially set up to become that. The founding fathers such as Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, and Thomas Jefferson seem to have had a very different ideal in mind than what the US became. The character of the US changed fundamentally when its currency has appropriated by the financial elite.

The negative associations with the number 13 are a modern superstition. If you go back further, for example by examining the significance of the number 13 in Mayan cosmology (Hunbatz Men - The 8 Calendars of the Maya) or in Hebrew biblical gematria (Rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh's writings and lectures on the numbers 13, 7, and 137), a very different meaning emerges.

a conspiracy controlling the administration of an organization is different than all the members of that organization being complicit in the conspiracy.

Also population control/reduction.

I'm currently on Book 49 of 106. Definitely LOTS of material to get through on it, so I'm doing it in a piecemeal manner, but going through it via the method that I linked here kind of allows me to actually listen to it and then read along if there are any areas that I want to go through again - so it works out.

A lot of the information in The Ra Material certainly does indeed mirror what HH said - so much so that I wondered for a moment if HH himself didn't just actually steal the material (or at least mirror the general "feel" of it) from The Law Of One and use it for his own stuff. Honestly, I actually don't get the feeling that he did, however. Especially when I came across information like this long video right here that, in its own way and in various areas, absolutely corroborates much of the information that both HH and The Ra Material mentioned.

That last link I included is both very long AND has a bit of stuff that I actually don't agree with at all. It's also a bit dated and the production value definitely comes across as a bit "cheesy". However, there is enough interesting corollary information between what is said in it and the information contained in both HH's data and The Ra Material that it leads me to feel that there is indeed at least some significant level of truth in much of what HH mentioned.

It's all about cross-referencing the material and data you find. If you have various disparaging, unconnected sources all mentioning similar things, then it gives the veracity of information that's being imparted a LOT more weight and credibility.