this sub doesn't add up

159  2017-07-31 by codaclouds

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I don't believe for a second there's 2 million subs. Never have.

Remember that time we could discuss numerous topics on this sub sans shills and bot brigading?

Man ... those were good times.

sighs

When the hell was that?!

A long time ago. Last time I can recall good, organic, undeterred civilized discussion 24/7 in this sub was probably 3-4 years ago.

To be fair, the people writing most of the content probably got pretty tired of the human static that's been dancing around the last couple years.

4 years ago there were so many neo-nazi's here it was literally just anti-Jew central. Is that what you're remembering as the awesome times? Now (((Jew))) has just been replaced with (((democrat))). Same shit, different enemy.

Not sure if you're insinuating I'm racist, or just speaking in general, so I won't speak on that currently.

To your point; I ignored those threads and enjoying being able to talk about aliens, ancient history, or a global conspiracy to enslave mankind without catching a massive shill attack every time. Those are the discussions I'm referring to, and hell, to be fair, it could be even further back than 3-4 years. That was just the last time I remember being able to have any kind of shill-less conversation around here.

I didn't insinuate you were a god damn thing. But to act like this sub wasn't overrun with another alt-right agenda back then is disingenuous. It was. And before then, it was again. I'm not sure exactly what time you're talking about but I've been here a long time (even before this account, well before it).

I'm not disputing what you're saying, man. I agree with you. Calm down and chill with the hostility, I have shown you none.

All I'm saying is it was actually possible to have a discussion without immediate downvoting or shilling then.

You aren't the only one around here who isn't on their first username, either. So place that card back up your sleeve.

So defensive!

Why do you persist with the alt right label if you've been here for a while?

Look at his posting history, he is from r/latestagecapitalism

I got banned from there recently. It was a post making fun of capitalists, which I'm fine with, and then they stickied comment was a declaring that sub a safe space....

I got banned for pointing out the hypocritical nature of the post. Which was not in any violation of the rules.

They are using capitalistic means of socialising, those retards dont see the irony or hypocricy

Because it's an apt description, should I not use language? What's your problem?

It's all good man :)

You are a far left advocate complaining about alt right here.

Sjws always project

So you're calling me a SJW lol? Oh fuck dudr

No, we still very much care about seeing justice done to those of the Jewish cult who live to pervert :) One day I hope to see the flag of Israel burn on her capital steps.

Here we go

You would care to join the fight, then? Fantastic! :D

You're not a freedom fighter. You're a little boy in his parents house.

No, but I can imagine that picturing me as such does make things easier for you :)

Whatever you tell yourself to sleep at night

See you around, good pal! :D

Bye 22 year old twitter girl

Oh, I'm not 12, nor female, nor active on Twitter, nor a boy, nor living with my parents. I think that this could be a learning experience for you if you were take an objective perspective. The key question to ask is this: Am I free of the ego that cannot allow superiority?

You're not, obviously :D XD XD XD :*

One aspect is the tendency to respond with some version of "No, YOU!" I believe you will see if you allow yourself :)

/r/iamverysmart would love you

That they would :)

Nah, it was during the election that things fully went to shit. Obama barely repealed propaganda laws in December.

What propaganda laws?

There are very loosely written laws regarding transparency in advertising, and they are purportedly working to see something of that nature implemented on the internet, but from what their reps tell me, they simply allow shilling in full as it sits now.

In other words, you have nothing but vague insinuations.

Quite a lot more than that! It is very sad that I must sit on that information..

was destined to happen as reddit went mainstream, i still remember when people looked at you like you just said you were an alien when you mentioned reddit.

Before you got here.

account same age as this one

Wew k

"Shills and only shills have accounts less than 10 years old, because.. shills.. can't.. buy.. profiles.. Ok I see my mistake I'll shut up, now".

Did you pull that straight from your ass or?

Ass, mind, intuition, whatever your emotional context allows :)

PIZZAGATE IS FAKE, Free Alefantis!

Lmao...Nah

He tried his best. Poor lil' feller; the peeps is just too woke. Good man; stay strong :)

I frequently argue with people here, and even I agree this is astroturfing. That doesn't even freaking SOUND like something that would get posted here, it's some clueless corporate democrat's idea of what a conspiracy is. There's absolutely nothing conspiratorial about how the Chinese invest more in infrastructure than we do.

I don't believe for a second there's half a million subs. Never have.

Reminds me of the big 'conspiracy' youtube channels. They will try and have you believe they are being suppressed, when in reality they are being promoted by YouTube.

I completely agree! I believe I have the best list of shills of any user, and it's sad that I won't get to share that with others. Speaking of, how are you these days?

The activity is way off in this sub and a couple of others I go to if we go by subscription metrics.

This sub is ruled by bots, from many different groups, imo.

beep boop beep....obey the Vatican....whirr r r r r...beep...

😂

We need legislation. I wish the FTC still cared about people. Each time I call for an update on shill law, they say "oh we're trying to get something going, but it's just so hard" or some such cop out.

Because this sub is full of liberal kids who also browse r/politics

It's more than that. There is a concerted effort to silence this sub. Go visit r/topmindsofreddit.

For what it's worth, I have you tagged as "good man", and there is a nice green +19 by your name. Thank you for your service to humanity :)

I can't tag, but I always notice you as one of the good guys!

Yeah, kind of applies to me. Not a kid, but I obviously have a very liberal point of view on things, and a politics regular.

I believe that you are sincere, if sincerely and severely gullible, but you need to take a look at how you form your beliefs, why you form them, and when to take a harder look at the motivations of those from whom you receive your information.

Right back at you friend ;)

Ahem.. Well, I'm double rubber and you are double glue times infinity. I believe I win by those rules you play by, friend :)

There are those of us who found our way here after the change in r/politics after the convention and the shuttering of S4P, as well as the October malfeasance around Wikileaks and Assange, when subs changed mods and comment sections changed overnight, and finally the pizzagate sub was closed. R/conspiracy seemed to be the only place on Reddit talking about these things, the only redoubt to see that others saw what you did, to wake up. Not all of us on the left are your enemy, especially those that have made their way here over the months, many, myself included, are here in good faith and are also disgusted by the blatant shilling, as it's become even more obvious since October.

This is a lesson that I, too, need to keep in mind. Thank you.

Yeah. Don't they know you're not allowed to be a conspiracy theorist if you're not a Trump supporter?

real conspiracy theorists know everything about politics is a scam

I just suggested recently that we should go to "contest" mode.

Agreed

Yup.

There have been a few suggestions of this recently. I agree as well.

Why take it away from all? The more exposure it gets to normies, the better we can redpill them

"exposure" "normies" "redpill"...what?

Awaken the masses to what is happening. That's the whole point.

Is it? On the internet? Must have missed that ancient religious document stating I need to awaked the masses of reddit who choose to indulge in the worldly goods.

The whole point is not get involved in worldly pursuits and to be honest...

My what a very narrow view of spirituality, and something of a misdirection from the point that the person above you was making. I have some great sources to begin to take your education from "I heard about it a few places and so now I have a general feeling", to "I have studied", if you are interested in growing :)

I'm good thanks though. My journey is for myself...

Keep your super expanded view and consumption judas iscariot.

No, I will continue to share it. I will see you around, my friend :D

We are not friends. Go try you pseudo-intellectual garbage somewhere else.

I'll be here. partaking in discussion. You keep redpilling normies bro stay woke

Oh I assure you we are. Very close :)

Ohhh spooky

Oh come now not proximity wise. We have a bond, now :)

We don't though. You took this trains way off the track. you played yourself.

No, I assure you I did no such thing. You might see this as wasted effort in the same way that an accountant might feel pity for a wastewater worker, but mine is a necessary service. :)

You can do a lot of things. Your first response to me was accusing me of being a bot. So fuck you. You're a child.

"I have all the answers. My crusade is truth." You sound very familiar.

Oh come now I never insinuated any such thing.

So fuck you. You're a child.

I love reddit when I run into comment's like these. Acts like a child, calls other person a child. lmao.

I would not follow any ancient documents. The spirit is never involved in wordly pursuits and the flesh knows nothing of the spirit, so what is the problem?

You tell me? Where is it stated we need to be a popular sub?

I was mostly commenting about you saying that the whole point is not to get involved in worldy pursuit. What we are can not be lost in the world, what we are not can not know what we are.

Ah, look, and example of "doesn't add up", in person. Hello again, friend. You've certainly grabbed my attention, now! :)

To the humans, here: I would recommend downloading RES simply for tag feature.

Now, back to us: What do you think yours should be? You don't get a say, but I think it would be good practice in learning to again form your own opinions.

You should really know what you're talking about before taking this road. You're stalking... and you're making shit up... Funny you showed up when you did.

Fraud?

Yes. you with the young account insinuating all the while you have completely sent this off the rails... I'm assuming/hoping this isn't your first account.

My comment did nothing to derail. I was simply wondering why the poster was using such language, then wanted to know where the rules for us were?

People here seem to think we're some army and we're all one.

If you really want to have a discussion by all means I welcome it.

But leave your pride out of it.

I am an ass. Sorry.

Nor even my 5th! I have only been suspended once, for discovering and sharing the server farm which shills operate through, but I find that it is good to have different names for different things. This is my shill hunting acct :)

Well this is my second. Lost my password. Never been suspended. Here check it out. u/alliwantisaname. Same language and everything. So, again, go try this crusade somewhere else.

Is that the super secret list that only you have and you feel real bad no one else will get to see? thats cool you have that.

I'm sure you will come in and try to derail more threads in the future. Probably under your 5th name. Or 6th.

Yes, most certainly! If you will look closely, you will find that you were not "on the rails" when I found you.

I commented on a post trying to be taken off the rails... grab your monocle and look closer at the language used.

Yes, I have :)

Funny what you ignore and what you decide to comment about.

Yes it has taken months to develop to this point, and I by no means consider it to be complete :)

? you're malfunctioning friend

Ah, look, an example of "doesn't add up", in person. Hello again, old friend. You've certainly grabbed my attention, now! :) To the humans, here: I would recommend downloading RES simply for tag feature. Now, back to us: What do you think yours should be? You don't get a say, but I think it would be good practice in learning to again form your own opinions.

Interesting you addressed humans

then me as a separate entity;

You are not good at this.

Oh did I? :O My mistake.

Conspiracy lingo fam, it makes you look cool and awakened

Oh yeah I get that. Since when are we trying to make conspiracy hip and cool though? I thought it was about truth? Spreading truth....

People should go start threads in politics about pizzagate. Bombard it.

We don't need more exposure here. We need more discussion. About real things. People shouldn't be worried about telling people what they believe the truth to be but about actually being truthful. Be yourself. Stop getting consumed by your sins and emotions pursuits etc...

Stop getting consumed by your sins and emotions pursuits etc...

Okkkk there father john calm down...lol

You're right though, this place is supposed to be about truth. I don't get why you're against getting the truth more exposure though.

Where did I state anywhere that I was against truth getting more exposure? Never. Not once.

I am however against to get this place on the front page and popular. Real discussion will be suppressed.

Especially when the front page is mostly 1. willingly ignorant people and 2. professional shills. We have enough here

Where did I state anywhere that I was against truth getting more exposure? Never. Not once.

I am however against to get this place on the front page and popular.

Dude this is the second comment where you directly contradict yourself after saying something.

Yes there are shills and bots on reddit but unless you think nearly everyone on reddit has an agenda what you're saying doesn't really make sense.

How is that a contradiction? neither was saying fuck you you're a child. Just because you hold your own beliefs and judge from your pedestal doesn't mean that's truth for all people...

you either contradicted yourself or are a huge hypocrite pick one...

Why because you have given me these two to pick from. Laughable. Get lost.

No because that is reality...get over yourself dude. Jesus. lol

This is reddit. not reality.

This is reddit. not reality.

lmao ok guy...you sound like you're coming off a huge acid trip and feel like you know everything. It's pretty amusing.

Really? So you just kinda jumped right into the middle of it without knowing even a little of what is going on. Okay cool. You sound like a moron. Tell me I act like I know everything while you're trying to tell me how it is and make up shit about what I said. Okay...

So you just kinda jumped right into the middle of it

Dude what are you even talking about? What drugs are you on? lol

None thanks but continue trying to attack the character. Thumbs up.

I'm not trying to attack your "character" but you aren't making much sense and seem really emotional.

Good luck, son.

"I'm not trying to attack but I am going to do" you're cool. Good luck to you in your next whatever you do.

Lol. That'll just get you banned. Trust me.

I don't. Care to enlighten why I would be banned for this?

I recently posted about Heather Tucci's hint that she was working with Ivanka Trump and was banned in less than five minutes.

This, exactly

Posts are being manipulated onto all that aren't conspiracy related. In these instances, this sub is used as an extension of the rest of Reddit's astroturfed subs, just to get visibility on the front page. This isn't redpill material and won't attract those interested in conspiracies to the sub, quite the opposite.

Remove the ability for any post to hit all and those interested in pushing their agenda won't waste time here.

Nah. Astro turfing this sub is a horrible mistake and we should encourage them to do it more.

Will never happen. They coudn't control the narrative if it was changed to contest mode.

Who is they? And what is the narrative?

Whats that?

It's when the votes don't show and comments are shuffled randomly rather than by "best".

i like randomly selected comments.

I've never heard someone mention that before, would anyone mind explaining what "contest," mode is?

Also interested in what "contest" mode is

Interest here also!

It's when votes don't show and comments are randomly shuffled rather that the highest voted comments always at the top. A lot of times It's used for community discussions that are particularly controversial, etc. My thought is if we took voting away we would stop attracting brigades, shills and bots. We recently had a sticky thread about the CNN boycot that was in contest and the know shills were furious about it. That's what made me think they would leave if voting was removed.

Okay, I gotcha now. I just hadn't heard of contest mode. I think it's a good idea, take away the possibility of inflating comments or posts and we may see better results. Good suggestion.

400,000 shill bots? Not accusing anyone of being a shill, so this isn't ban worthy.

You can talk about shills all day, you just can't use the word against another user. Thank you for seeing and caring about this fight! It's always good to see another human, these days :)

Wtf there's 9,145 users online....

https://i.imgur.com/U4ONibr.png

https://i.imgur.com/0bXypOk.png

Down to 5,767 online after 4 minutes.

Must be quittin' time down at Fort Mead.

3 am is when I wake up to open the bakery and there's some really good discussions on here. Scarce, but you actually get to discuss topics and ideas and not just more biased news.

Oh my, how ironic.

Oh stalking now, guru master?

No, remembering. I seem to have impressed you, as well as you have made an impression on myself :)

Does anyone else find it odd that the amount of users inflates exponentially during the Asian continents business hours?

they offer the cheapest click farms and vote buying options so its not really surprising.

Does anyone else find it odd that the amount of users inflates exponentially during the Asian continents business hours?

Does anyone else find it odd that the amount of users inflates exponentially during the Asian continents business hours?

in the unreal annoucer voice

T-T-T-Triple post!

Sorry, my Soros Shill software was acting up.

they're like cockroaches, when ever some one mentions this they all scurry off like some one flicked on the lights.

Oh for fucks sake, EVERY DAMN TIME something gets to the front page people post the same damn thing, NONE OF YOU PROGRAMMED THE SITE.

But you are among those who attempt to do so, socially :)

There are a bunchbof retards on topmindsofreddit that organise how to silence discussion and take over subs that do not follow their neo Marxist dogma. Look at all the shills from latestagecapitalism as well that pop out all of a sudden here.

Holy shit, are you serious? You're blaming a sub with a 1/10th of the subs of this sub as being some nefarious group? It's not fucking private. You can go there and see how active it is. Is this really what you're hoping people will believe?

Have you seen their spam lists of user name links in practically every thread? You would be banned from the site for that outside of here. They are stalkers.

Do you have any examples of people in other subs being banned for the same thing?

I don't, but I know it's against site rules.

Posting usernames is against reddit's rules? Since when?

Stalking is. Do you know what stalking is? Like watching threads, posting them elsewhere, keeping track of the posters, noting it in the thread, reporting back what else the person said, noting whom else that user agrees with, etc. It's stalking. And it's against site rules.

Stalking is. Do you know what stalking is? Like watching threads, posting them elsewhere, keeping track of the posters, noting it in the thread, reporting back what else the person said, noting whom else that user agrees with, etc. It's stalking. And it's against site rules.

Do you also feel that subs like r/subredditdrama should be banned for breaking site rules?

Do they stalk users the way TMoR does?

Lol you should check it out, you'd be outraged if you saw the amount of "stalking" that happens in other subs like r/subredditdrama.

I commend you for seeing this conversation through. I know it is difficult to deal with such small men, and you held yourself well. Thank you for your service to humanity. :)

Yes

LOL, poor fucking cock shit.

My your day job seems to take a toll on you.. I would imagine such forced dissent can't help but make its way to a person's soul. Good luck, my friend!

Rule 10

They organise on other subs, like srd, lsc, srs, socialism, antifa etc

And the mass res tagging. I saw that in the archives the other day. I'm a "pizzagater".

Apparently I'm "Known Pizzagater", in addition to "The Donald".

All you are on my RES is a green +29 and a tag of "good man". :)

That's nice to hear, thank you!

Known Pizzagater

It's done to protect the children. No one wants their children around people like you.

Those tagged as "Pizzagater" have been identified by their support for exposing elite pedo rings. You want to shield children from people who want to protect them? That sounds more than a little suspicious.

I once tried to give my list of shills to other users here and that username was threatened with banishment. Funny, that.

Your mind must be such a scary place... I'm sad you don't live in reality.

I feel sorry for you.

Don't kiddo, I'm much better off than you

Oh you. One day, my friend. One day :)

Lol, it's really funny to see poor people pretend they have cash

Tokyo Vardy is probably a [paid] shill and this is just a technique to muddy the waters. Anyone who claims "that side" is shilling while "my side" isn't, is either brainwashed, brainwashing, or here to derail.

Oh come now if you buy into the forced silence around the word "shill", you then fall into a third category. A very woolly one.

Please...Tokyo Vardy has more Karma in 3 months than TheFappening has in 2 years. His 10th highest comment is 25 points. The logic is sound. If they aren't shilling for money, they're shilling for fun.

There is no such thing as shilling for fun, and you know this, but I understand that you are not allowed to express that and are encouraged to obfuscate :)

oooooooooo.....you're good! I like you. What you said is fake news though. Maybe you should check my profile....check my comment history.

I always do before making a final decision :)

And here we see an example of the same style of dissent. For shame, my friend. For shame. I believe that you are better than this, if you do what you do organically.

Jesus, says the guy posting up and down my comment wall.

It's really only one thread, if you care to look again. I am persistent, yes :)

neo Marxist dogma.

All this leftist scum

Talking points of the usual useful idiots of the New World Order.

Yeah sure, Marxists, and Leftists under the bed. Meanwhile you guys are getting crooks elected who are selling us all out to the former Soviet Union.

You mean like uranium?

rekt

No, like lifting sanctions. The uranium in question will never leave the US.

HAHA REKT XD XD! Clinton Shill Bust Complete!

Go back to ets

hahahaha classic slime move: "Accuse them of your own crimes". I wonder how many more times they can allow their underlings to repeat this sentiment before we reach the 100th monkey effect. I know you wouldn't know from your perspective being so low to the ground, but if you had to venture a guess, what would yours be, friend?

Go watch Bill Browders testimony to congress. It's on cspan. Then come back here and talk to us about conspiracies.

No thank you :)

Bill Browder

a multi billionaire testimony is worth jack shit. he says what you wanna hear

You clearly didn't watch the testimony. His testimony is backed up by literally the most well documented human rights abuse case in modern Russian history. The evidence they have has convinced congress, the EU government, the Canadian government and interpol that Russia murdered Magnitsky, and has been furiously trying to overturn the Magnitsky act, to the extent that they fucking put a dead man on trial in order to be able to claim that Magnitsky had been convicted of a crime.

The review you linked doesn't cast doubt on his story, and there's no reason for him to be doing what he is doing unless it's true. Try watching it.

DNC tried to corrupt DJT using their pawns

Dude, the lady who met TrumpJr was a Russian. She as working for a Billionaire, who himself, is literally high level Russian government official. That can only mean one thing, Putin tried to corrupt Trump. He probably tried, maybe even succeeded in corrupting Clinton. That's the point, this goes WAAAAAY beyond DNC/RNC/Trump/Clinton. Our democracy is under attack by the Russian government. The Magnitsky act and other sanctions against Russia are fucking up Putin's gangster government and he's coming over here and corrupting ours in order to try and get rid of the sanctions!

Nice rrvisionism. Who orgsnised meeting. Fusiongps, dnc linked firm

Revisionism?

Omg. It's publicly available information!!!!!

The lawyer who met Trump's name was Veselnitskaya. She has a Twitter account, it's covered in smears against Magnitsky, the Magnitsky act and against Browder. Just look it up.

You think it's a coincidence that the same lawyer who hates the Magnitsky act and Browder, and who also hired Fusion GPS to lobby the U.S. congress on behalf of that same Russian Billionaire I mentioned before to stop a DoJ money laundering case linked to people on the Magnitsky list, and who is clearly working for Putin, also met with TrumpJr? She organized the meeting, she's the one who hired Fusion GPS to do that lobbying.

I'm not saying Clinton isn't involved, she probably is, but as a pawn or puppet. Maybe she was even complicit, in order to get elected. But we are under attack from the outside. The Russians are trying to destroy our government.

Just watch the video, listen to the man. If you don't believe him you don't believe him but I've checked out everything Browder said in that video and it all checks out.

If they're as high as 14 thousand, it's because of help from r/all. Also possibly vote manipulation, but your example link is completely compatible with the general viewpoint of this sub and something like that would definitely get a lot of real upvotes even if vote manipulation is also at work.

The numbers are contrived.

The fix is in.

Spez is scum.

It has more comments than votes... That's normal right :)

Yes because I'm guessing a large majority of that % are like me and just come for a laugh/look.

The rhetoric of this sub seems to take longer than most to change because it gets stuck on good points or really bad points. There for I don't sub, it doesn't come on my all and I check it out once or twice a week

Come to ask a few questions then I'm not back for a week...

You can't have a sub that is trying to pull people in and not have people coming and going.

Thank you for the deft deflection. I love when you guys make it easy. I'll see you around! :D

Not really sure what you or the Downvoted are getting at. If you're pissed I'm a non conspiracy person coming to get updates then fine but that your bad rep

You were doing well, but those last few words lost cogency...

I am not a conspiracy theorist there for I do not subscribe

I like to gather my own info from multiple sources there for I visit semi frequently

Fuck me right, even though I'm your 'target Audience' of the wake up sheeple gang.

No I have nothing against you :)

Oh, just my spelling?

Sorry, Im a Brit and I'm not used to the sun on my phone screen. Can't she shiiiiy

No, not spelling either: I would have drawn attention to your "there for"s if I were so pedantic as that. I honestly could not parse your meaning, but you did clear it up :)

Yeah I'm using one of those new fangled Swype style keyboards. My bad

Nah no worries. Been there :)

You're good dude. This guy's just being a dick. Come back any time.

You aren't wrong. But it is a totally different place sorted by new. Well, when we aren't being carpet bombed by hateful shit.

The sub is under constant attack from /r/politics (check where all the douchebags are most active, you will find they are from there), ShareBlue and brigading from places like /r/topmindsofreddit. A large amount of their posts are currently linking over to here now.

The moderators are not doing much to combat it either. At some point you have to put your foot down, but they seem strangely uninterested.

Task force will help Clinton supporters push back on online harassment and thank superdelegates

Hillary Clinton PAC Spends $1 Million "Correcting" People Online And Reddit Is Furious

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Podesta meets with super PACS (Priorities USA and CTR) at law firm (Perkins Coie LLP.)

Astroturf and manipulation of media messages | Sharyl Attkisson | TEDxUniversityofNevada

For further reading I would suggest these links:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

How reddit is being manipulated

Reddit For Sale: How We Bought The Top Spot For $200

Reddit is Being Manipulated by Professional Shills Every Day

Guy makes short video where he explains that he has bought upvotes for his submission on /r/videos, submission has 20k+ upvotes before moderators deletes it to hide the incident

HOW THEY MAKE FAKE NEWS AND MANIPULATE REDDIT

How We Hacked Reddit to Generate 5 Million Media Impressions in 3 days

An Oxford research paper on astroturfing:

Troops, Trolls and Troublemakers: A Global Inventory of Organized Social Media Manipulation

From this Oxford research paper on astroturfing:

There is no doubt that individual social media users can spread hate speech, troll other users, or set up automated political communication campaigns. Unfortunately, this is also an organized phenomenon, with major governments and political parties dedicating significant resources towards the use of social media for public opinion manipulation.

... In many countries, political actors have no reported ability to field social media campaigns. In some countries, one or two known political actors occasionally use social media for political messaging, and in a few other countries there are multiple government agencies, political parties, or civil society groups organizing trolling and fake news campaigns.

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For what it's worth, I have you tagged as "good man", and there is a nice +32 by your username :) Thank you for your service to the sanctity of sincerity!

This should be the top comment, instead, between me seeing it and signing in to upvote, it was downvoted.

This comment needs to be a text post. Can you do that?

I suppose I could post it, but similar submissions have been heavily downvoted straight out the gate here. I don't hold much hope for it to gain any traction against the bots and brigaders.

Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6qov9l/an_fyi_about_the_state_of_voting_and_brigading/

Thanks. We may turn it to in a sticky. Good stuff.

Also that article in the post you liked to is at least a month old...

lol! i didn't even read it, just seems ridiculous for someone who is supposedly interested in conspiracies to be interested in that nonsense based on title alone

Yeah I mean, you're right Americans already know that.. I agree the upvotes don't seem natural but why would this article in particular be bot upvoted? Seems kinda arbitrary?

Nah, trust your gut more, seek out a view that compliments it, don't throw it out because of remembered shame :)

Not surprising, whoever runs this wants the most mundane information on the main page. It's surprising that even pointing this out made it to "hot".

You must be part of the New Reddit Order lol

lol they got me on mind control

I was just thinking that. China utilizing bots....

China, now?

Yes it is very sad. I will be here until Reddit shuts its doors, no matter how fall this sub falls, reminding and reminding and reminding others of the true spirit of this place.

There is something very wrong with this sub , 162 comments, 107 upvotes and 85% upvoted

Meanwhile , the chinese guy is a repost and normally when something like that reaches the front page we get more viewers the the sub. Really just manipulation , reddit is really fucked!

I guess these are real/legitimate numbers.

on other large subs companies or individuals probably use bots and bought accounts to upvote their posts, for various reasons.

just a theory though.

this sub was one of the first ones they targeted in the astro truffing take overs. i will say it resisted for quite a long time but before this election it became painfully obvious.

True dude, I mean reddit has bent most subs to their will at this point

Months ago this sub was hijacked by TD mods who use this own place to support the world view of their orange nightmare. Looking forward to my ban for this factual statement

This sub had little to do with right v left until all you idiot partisans showed up

XDDD our election was stolen by morons REEEing about a side of beef, fuck your own face

You're not in a position to call anyone a moron.

Removed. Rule 10

what did i say i forgot

I didn't insinuate you were a god damn thing. But to act like this sub wasn't overrun with another alt-right agenda back then is disingenuous. It was. And before then, it was again. I'm not sure exactly what time you're talking about but I've been here a long time (even before this account, well before it).

I feel sorry for you.

Tokyo Vardy is probably a [paid] shill and this is just a technique to muddy the waters. Anyone who claims "that side" is shilling while "my side" isn't, is either brainwashed, brainwashing, or here to derail.

Is it? On the internet? Must have missed that ancient religious document stating I need to awaked the masses of reddit who choose to indulge in the worldly goods.

The whole point is not get involved in worldly pursuits and to be honest...

Oh my, how ironic.

So you're calling me a SJW lol? Oh fuck dudr

No, remembering. I seem to have impressed you, as well as you have made an impression on myself :)

There are very loosely written laws regarding transparency in advertising, and they are purportedly working to see something of that nature implemented on the internet, but from what their reps tell me, they simply allow shilling in full as it sits now.

Oh did I? :O My mistake.

Those tagged as "Pizzagater" have been identified by their support for exposing elite pedo rings. You want to shield children from people who want to protect them? That sounds more than a little suspicious.

No because that is reality...get over yourself dude. Jesus. lol

It's when the votes don't show and comments are shuffled randomly rather than by "best".