Yep...just came back and there are so many shitposts

1. Bill nye sues disney
2. Aryangodess Taylor swift post
3. whining about Youtube.

4. Impeaching trump posts

   tabloid bullshit posts.

Don't forget: Elite Pedophile Whistleblower Found Dead In Florida!

But isn't a conspiracy a subjective assumption? What might be a conspiracy to me might not be a conspiracy to you. Mainpoint; how could we distinguish "real" conspiracy from non-conspiracy?

This is where we have to rely on the mods good judgement imo

First time on the Internet?

Here's a better suggestion for rule 13: [Meta] threads result in permaban.

By having a Rule 13, we give the mods the framework to delete posts (and ban users if necessary). As it is, they don't have that framework (rule) so they don't follow it (of course) and the result is that the sub is full of shit and people going elsewhere..

this is exactly the problem with this proposal

then you can always create a new post telling about it and claiming there is a conspiracy in the mods to delete whatever. Right?

besides the fact that you are all for banning people too
this is so wrong, so wrong...

If it's obvious spam just down vote it, like everyone else does.

Or report it and let the mods determine if it's spam.

That's literally what OP was saying. Like let the post be posted and the majority of r/conspiracy will decide if it should stay. Not just the subjective opinion of the mods.

But what if the mods are compromised?

Exactly. The solution is worse than the problem.

I'd be a fan of needing to provide a submission statement, that alone would cut a lot of low-effort posting and require some amount of thought to be put into why a particular piece might be posted to this sub to begin with.

No? There's a simple definition in the side bar

It is a flood of politics now. I am all for political conspiracies but partisan politics aren't conspiracies in my book.

If Flytape was responsible for keeping these things at bay, then I nderestimated his contribution here. This sub's list is a mess of political posts.

Why on earth would you think Flytape was the one preventing these types of posts? He was responsible for making a good percentage of them! Just look through his post history. Not to mention the fact that he is now in charge of a new sub specifically dedicated to incredibly partisan political crap.

him being gone from this sub is the only change in the variables of the sub's operating. So are you saying that we have an influx of politics posts and flytape is gone but he is responsible for it?

No, I'm just saying that you can't jump to the conclusion that Flytape was some barrier protecting us from political spam when he himself was posting biased political stuff right up until he left.

Although you could probably make an argument that his new ConspiracyRight sub could be partly responsible for this recent flood of political crap. His sub is more T_D light than conspiracy ever was. The rules even go so far as stating that users should repeatedly call out anyone who is not a "right wing patriot" until he notices and bans them. Several of the articles that have been posted here were also posted there. It's not much of a stretch to imagine that users who post there also cross post here to push their agenda to a larger audience.

How do you know that's the only variable changed?

he is the only mod that has been added or removed, right?

Not sure. But there could be other factors besides being a mod being removed, like mods being fed up about the recent crap and not doing their jobs, or more internal arguing, or whatever.

I dunno, all I'm saying is I'd pretty much need to see proof before I'd believe the most openly partisan mod was the only thing keeping this sub together.

against it.
aside from obvious spam and site-wide rule violations, this is the one place where i expect to find people being able to filter out junk posts in their own head.
and snce not two of us could agree on identical filters, let those be in our individual heads.

i for myself like to read the occasional partisan article directly contradicting my believes, just to stay outside of my comfort bubble.

This sub has been getting a flood of click bait last few days

no, seem to me an invite to abuse power

Why is this sub shit now? How on earth did this garbage post make it to the front page?

Why more rules? Upvote, downvote, comment and call people out on bullshit or just move on....

If media being overtaken is a legit conspiracy, and then that controlled media is consistently spewing one message (towards one political figure), then you are going to have legitimate politics in conspiracy forums. There's no way to get around it unless they switch targets, which they've been unable to do.

Can't you scroll past posts that don't interest you? We all have different ideas of what constitutes a legitimate conspiracy, and a post that you might deem irrelevant may contain a bit of information that is useful for someone else's research.

I'm more more concerned about people like you that make posts about finding a consensus on what is a conspiracy theory and what isn't.

I just looked around the front page and didn't see any posts that didn't seem to be about conspiracies. What are you complaining about? Is it just that many conspiracies involve the US government?

The US government is the biggest, most harmful conspiracy in the world and you're here trying to tell r/conspiracy we're not allowed to talk about it?

Seems like they want to now be an authority on what is considered a real conspiracy. Big fat NO.

Politics and conspiracies go hand-in-hand. How could one talk about 911 without mentioning the Bush administration, for example?

I think the Trump/Russia conspiracy is just as stupid as the next person but that doesn't mean we should censor all discussion of it. Upvotes and downvotes work fine. Mods just need more diligence in promoting civility and ensuring there's no vote brigading.

my perspective is, there is a difference between political conspiracies and political partisan news.

How so?

only if we can take away rule 10

The problem is that there is a lot of things wrong with politics today. It seems like the garbage (mostly anti-Trump) submission are here to muddy the water and push their agenda. Really it's happening all over reddit and my guess is that the anti-trump people are seeking out any place that hasn't fully embraced their perspective. They're like the borg

But if we add this rule WHO gets to decide what is a true conspiracy or not? Sounds like they want to shut down a lot of ideas and run with what they consider a "conspiracy".

How about getting rid of all the roles